Thread 714639016

I just don't understand how is Dead Space not as popular as other survival horror franchises, everything about Dead Space is on point for it to be the one of the most popular survival horror game, great art direction, gruesome body horror.

>>714639016 (OP)
Because EA is running the show. The devs might care about the franchise, but EA cares about the numbers.

>>714639210
Hence why they called the remake a failure.

>>714639016 (OP)
Because Dead Space 2 was just ok (and was way too inspired by Uncharted) and Dead Space 3 was outright bad.

It’s a dead franchise. Hasn’t been a new entry in 12 years and the remake flopped financially.

>>714639016 (OP)
Because westslop
Only superior japan has the rights to make horror games

>>714639298
>It’s a dead franchise.

Too serious.

>>714639016 (OP)
>I just don't understand how is Dead Space not as popular as other survival horror franchises
Because Dead Space has been Dead since 2013 unlike Resident Evil. There is a ''new'' RE title every year.

>>714639298
>Flopped financially
Found the EA executive

>>714639594
But wouldn't milking a franchise yearly lead to the fanbase to loose interest?
Or are RE fans on the same boat as COD fans where they expect the next game to be shit but still buy it?

Dead Space as a series is a rounding error at EA. Dead Space 3 vastly underperformed, so the series was canned. Simple as that.
>https://www.escapistmagazine.com/EA-Aims-to-Broaden-Dead-Space-Audience/
>“In general we’re thinking about how we make this a more broadly appealing franchise, because ultimately you need to get to audience sizes of around five million to really continue to invest in an IP like Dead Space,”
>Dead Space 3 had a strong debut in the US, becoming the top-selling game in February 2013 with 605,000 copies sold in North America

Compare that to Resident Evil, which routinely sells in the millions for mainline games.

>>714639016 (OP)
dead space 3 was such a colossal fuck up that it killed the series. i remember when people were in love with it, it even had a fucking wii game and a digital comic.

>>714639765
>But wouldn't milking a franchise yearly lead to the fanbase to loose interest?
If anything it leads to more and more sales.

>>714639284
>>714639823
Dead Space 3 is fun. Might not have been the horror game it should have been, but it is fun none the less.

>>714639016 (OP)
Unlikeable characters, terrible combat.

People like to shit on EA for this but the reality is that the writing of the games just isnt very good. DS1 was the only one that managed to get away with it because it had an opening that developed slowly where the scenario writing took a backseat to setting up the lore and the mystery of the ship and the aliens, and by the later chapters when the actual plot happened people were already hooked enough to look past it. DS1 was the game with the great atmosphere and the cool weapons and the creepy monsters and the characters that you can do a good job of pretending they dont exist.
Later games had to put a plot front and center to justify their existence, and it is where the series started floundering.

>>714639936
No

>>714639936
Literally the one (1) saving grace of Dead Space 3 was the lore about Brother Moons. Everything else was bad

>>714640026
This is the weirdest head canon

>>714640212
Nah he kinda cooked with that post. Lots of the later events in Dead Space 1 are kinda lame but by that point you're hooked.
Meanwhile Dead Space 2 and 3 are much more plot heavy to their detriment

>>714639016 (OP)
I'm playing the remake and callisto protocol right now and basically, your character feels like a bag of potatoes playing ddr, it dates the game horribly

You are more nimble in resident evil with literal tank controls,

>>714640345
I mean if you're wanting to go down the lore path in this discussion, you might as well mention the graphic novels, books, animated movies and side games too while you're at it.

>>714640569
Tank controls will never be popular. It wasn't popular then, it's not popular now.
Resident Evil did not catch on until 4 because they stopped that nonsense.

>>714639210
/thread

>>714640569
>your character feels like a bag of potatoes
You are a engineer so not some raging imbecile that can punch rocks to shit, you aren't meant to walk around relatively large areas but instead in tight corridor. Also you probably feel like the movement is shit because of the stuttering issues on the remake. Should have played the original first

>>714639016 (OP)
Dead Space just needs a movie.

>>714639016 (OP)
Because Leon is way more appealing to obsessive fangirls than Isaac

>>714640687
Didn't RE4 have tank controls too? Or am I just misremembering the game that I barely played on the ps2

>>714640149
lol no
the brother moons was the worst part of the game because they immediately brought them to earth and wrote themselves into a fucking corner with only shitty deus ex machina tropes as a way out.
they introduced them way too early.
as it stands its game fucking over but for
>le magic old technology awakens!
they are at earth.
humanity is fucked.

>>714641059
If it did it wasn't default. I don't know because I would have refused to change superior controls.
Tank control enjoyers are he left handed people of video games.

>>714641113
>humanity is fucked.
This is false, there are other space colonies.

>>714641113
>Brother Moons pop up in the last 5 seconds of the DLC for the last Dead Space game ever
>too soon
Also that is how Brother Moons fit into the plot, not their lore.

>>714640345
>he kinda cooked
kill yourself at once

>>714641260
>dude there is like some hicksville shitholes in space still
yeah no.
half of the colonies are in the solar system.
humanity is fucked.

>semantics
fine

>>714642559
You are a middle aged loser freaking out about language.

>>714643829
see
>>714642559

Dead space 2 is the best dead space. Dead space 1 is good but dead space 2 is in like the top 50 games ever made maybe even top 10.

>>714645250
Dead space 1 is kino. Dead space 2 just shitty Michael Bay Uncharted Iron Man game.

>>714641031
It had a movie though.

Back in time when even android games was cool and we will never get a sequel. Remake was shit and flopped

>>714639016 (OP)
>I just don't understand how is Dead Space not as popular as other survival horror franchises
Having to shoot the limbs off enemys was frustrating for me and took away from the horror. some of those guys wiggle really quick and I have poor aim :'c

>>714639016 (OP)
Too gory and serious.
RE might be gory but it has cheesy and campy scenes to balance it out.

>>714646148
Part of the horror of dead space is the pressure to shoot the limbs, it makes you feel somewhat powerless.

>>714639016 (OP)
not enough games
EA is just retarded expecting DS has RE tier fame with just 3 games and a remake, you need to slowly built the IP for decades like RE

>>714640569
honestly callisto has better animations, its so much smoother than ddr
if only the game itself is good

>>714639016 (OP)
because it transitioned into a set piece shooter instead of a real game

>>714639765
>But wouldn't milking a franchise yearly lead to the fanbase to loose interest
It might be news to you but people like playing games instead of hearing about them and waiting for 4 years to touch them

>>714639765
RE keeps things fresh and interesting. It’s not always good but given the number of products people are always hopeful that they will get something they like every few years. Despite the number of shit spin offs, Capcoms continued attempts show people they themselves have a vested interest in the series

>>714639016 (OP)
Dead Space was murdered and the series forgotten about

>>714639765
>Would putting out more content for fans of a game franchise to consoom be bad for said franchise
Are you slow?

>>714639016 (OP)
Unrealistic financial expectations from EA but also 3 killing any momentum the series had

>>714639016 (OP)
Dead Space never had a chance to blow up like Resident Evil because it was too serious for the clowns who make up most of the gaming audience today. It’s not flashy enough for streamers to scream over and sell to their brain-dead followers. It doesn’t have the goofy action or meme potential that Resident Evil accidentally stumbled into over time. You might as well ask why Silent Hill didn’t become as mainstream either—because horror that takes itself seriously doesn’t survive in a market flooded by weebs and basedfaced content addicts. Even the new Silent Hill game is set in fucking Japan, because the devs are chasing that pathetic anime crowd instead of sticking to what made the original great. That same disease killed Dead Space too. EA focused everything on Isaac, and while I like the character, he should’ve been done after DS2. The third game should’ve moved on. The universe is huge but they narrowed everything down to this one dude just to keep it digestible for idiots. And of course they made him talk in DS2, because god forbid Redditors play a game where the main character doesn’t monologue about his feelings every five minutes. Dead Space is about isolation, dread, and silence—but those things don’t play well on Twitch or YouTube. The atmosphere is too cold, too distant for people raised on Marvel quips and neon anime bullshit. That's why the franchise never stood a chance. It was killed by clowns, weebs, and publishers chasing engagement instead of vision.

>>714641059
>>714641201
Original RE4 does 100% have tank controls. Same as the prior 3 games except the camera perspective is over Leon's shoulder and you have more control over aiming.