Even druckmann is praising it

What ending did he get?

>>714650631
Verso ending (canon ending for people that aren't coddled babies)

why is his set up so cheap looking? isn't this guy loaded?

Weird that he liked it since there is no gay tranny sex anywhere.

>>714650868
he liked it cause there was a genocide choice

>>714650748
verso's ending is definitely canon
maelle's ending is much more entertaining

>>714650198 (OP)
Kek, does this kike seriously have posters of his own drivel up around his own house?

>>714650198 (OP)
dude is reddit incarnate. Of course he liked it

>>714650198 (OP)
It's better written by far than his slop.

>>714650198 (OP)

I doubt he even play video games

>>714651479
he plays more than /v/

>>714650198 (OP)
>start up youtube
>type expedition 33 finale
>skip to credit seection
>i beat ze le gayme
>post on poopdick
many such cases

>>714651945
0 isn't greater than 0.

>>714650198 (OP)
>faggot likes faggot game
no one is surprised

>>714650198 (OP)
>Ashkenazi infiltrator praises the work of another Ashkenazi infiltrator
Really?

>>714652092
>He beat 1 game
thats more than /v/ already

>>714650748
And people with IQ over 80 understand that both endings are bad.

>>714652348
Literally how is verso's ending bad in anyway?
Oh no maelee has to deal with reality and the consequences of her own actions, as she through a series of events, caused the fire. Truly the horror

>>714650198 (OP)
yeah i'm thinking my irrational hating is justified

>>714652484
it'll be fun when it turns out in the next game that the dessendres are written by the writers and that they aren't real either.

OH NO I HATE E33 NOW
FFUCK UFUCKLUWOEFUOEWJFOPWEJGGEWOJGOEWPJGOWEGJPOEWEGJPOWEJGOPWEJGPOEWJGOEWJGPEWJGOWEJ
faggot

>>714650198 (OP)
>Creative Stories
Bunch of people defeat a god with the power of friendship but...SUBVERSION! Listen the game was alright and I even got sucked in thinking it was amazing but the week after I beat it I realized how bamboozled I actually got. The story is weak, makes zero sense, and the emotional investment the game suckers you in with the first 30 minutes ends with zero payoff because of the jarring tone shift 10 hours in.
Of course (((Druckmann))) loved it.

>>714652484
Verso's ending is technically the "right" choice but from a narrative standing it's utter dog shit considering you spend a good chunk of the first 1/3 of the game playing a different fucking game.
Anyone who praises this game's "twist" and then says Star Ocean 3's story is shit for having LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING TWIST can go jump off a bridge.

>>714650198 (OP)
NEXT

Why wouldn't he? This is a game that is very much in his wheelhouse.

I played a bit, and the game made a terrible first impression.
You can feel it it wants to be woke, and the people who made it are woke, but they know gamers hate this, and they tried to tune it down, but still do it anyway. Trying to find the level they can push and get away with it.
The little I played had the typical strong women everywhere, and the MC is a feeble "vulnerable" emo kid, just like how men should be. Also minorities everywhere in early modern France.

>>714650868
I'm honestly surprised at this, if true. Didn't play far enough to see if true. I totally expected to see romance options with the black guy who saved MC and the beheading old guy.

>>714653519
expedition 33 is the only modern game with exclusively straight romances.
Sciel had a husband and a baby. Lune can fuck verso. Gustav had Sophie, Emma is married
Even in the logs the only couples that are remarked upon are straight.

>>714652484
>"why no, I don't mind my whole family, actually make it my whole world, annihilated because some dude doesn't want to play the piano"
Very altruistic of you. Some would call you a cuck, but do not listen to them. We need to be able to sacrifice ourselves and our loved ones for the greater good. We need to be better men.

>>714650198 (OP)
They've absolutely raised the bar for UE5 store asset games, no doubt. However lets be honest the game is carried by music and voice acting.

>>714654081
>the game is carried by music and voice acting
This, except gameplay, combat, exploration, story, writing, dialogues and characters too.

>>714650198 (OP)
It's like being praised by a convicted child molester.
You'd probably rather he didn't because everyone else will going to assume your game is for pedophiles if he likes it.

>cuckman trying to get his say on goty
of course he wants to take credit somehow

>>714653686
>only
I'm starting to feel like I don't need to play western games anymore.
Yes, it really feels like that's their argument, that hey, noone else is making game but the west, so we're your only choice. And we skipped the trannies this time, so you must cheer for our diversity to thank us.
Western movies and series have been dead for me for years now for the same reason.

>>714652318
He didn't my evidence is the fact the remotes are under the TV. Shits staged as fuck. Faggot never uses that TV.

>>714650198 (OP)
Secondary. Another Israeli reaction to market trends.

What the fuck. I just went to the game's store page on Steam and there's still over 20k people playing. And 90+ reviews, so it's going to reach 100k in a few weeks.

>>714650198 (OP)
Best game ever, I hear he picked the low IQ ending though, makes sense.

>>714652484
>why is it bad to deceive your friends and kill them and everyone they love? And help murder hundreds of thousands of people?

I guess if you are literally Hitler his ending is good.

>>714653686
Watch Alicia being retconned into being a lesbian in the sequel.

>posters of his own slop framing the TV
kek

NEXT THREAD

>>714651324
He is Israel's Kojima

>>714650198 (OP)
jew game

>>714650198 (OP)
this nigga really stays surrounded by images of his stolen one hit wonder.. and artisanal woven fruitbaskets.

>>714652752
SO3's twist is bad because
>3

>>714650198 (OP)
NEXT

>>714650817
He's a Jew. They're notorious penny pinchers.

Imagine having the same shit taste as Druckmann.

>>714654080
>>714661796
They're not real

>>714664132
>nigga enters anon's house
>"yo, I'mma kill you and yo' family, cause mah sistah be makin' me plays the piano"
>"nigga, please, put down the shotgun"
>"no worries, cracka, you and yo family be not real"
>"oh, alright then"

>>714664595
>creates convoluted imaginary scenarios at the slightest opposition
I can see why you went with Alicia's ending

>>714664595
>"oh, alright then"
Yes.
What the fuck does it matter if he kills anon and his family. She can bring them back.
Their lives are meaningless because death is meaningless as well.

>>714650868
But it has blacks and browns everywhere. He loves those a lot.

>>714664828
I didn't. My IQ is just over 50, which means I am able to understand that both endings are bad.

>>714664867
The painting is destroyed and so are the people inside it, they can't be brought back.

>damn I wish I thought of this
>how can I make it about israel?

>>714664961
>The painting is destroyed and so are the people inside it
>Speedwatched the game
Essence, not verisimilitude.

>>714650198 (OP)
>the embodiment of Reddit loves redditor garbage
What a surprise.

>>714664939
The game does have out of place blacks but they're all background NPCs other than the guy you posted and he dies in the first hour of gameplay

>>714652484
>killing thousands of sentient people
>how is verso's ending bad in anyway?

no way this limp wristed faggot actually played the game,
whats some early boss, normies get filtered? I bet he not even got there

>>714665231
>he doesn't know
The game has braindead difficulty.

>>714665231
not every game is your apparently super duper mega impossible dark souls prepare to get filtered, anon

>>714665346
>turn based+strategy+difficult

it´s the ultimate Normie filter

>>714650198 (OP)
Cuckmann is not video games. Make an E33 thread next time

WokeGOD here. I love Expedition 33. Easily my GOTY. No surprise Neil loves it too. I hope Intergalactic turns out good. I'm excited to give it a shot when it comes out on PC.

>>714653686
>Even in the logs the only couples that are remarked upon are straight.
Wrong.

Not only are these two lesbians, but they are probably a reference to "The Inseparables" by Simone de Beauvoir, a very famous French feminist that may or may not have had a lesbian relationship with the woman that inspired Elizabeth in the novel.

>>714665571
it's not difficult and there's barely any strategy involved with how busted a lot of the pictos are
and this is assuming you're playing on expert

"Since a few of you are asking… I fought as Verso. Sorry… sometimes you need to leave your creations behind and spend time with your family."

>>714664132
They're conscious beings, that's real. What do you even mean by real? They live, they die, they give birth, eat, sleep, feel, think. They can't leave their world, that's the only thing that makes them different from the painter, they're stuck in that world. That and they're weaker, none of which makes them not real.

>>714665231
>whats some early boss, normies get filtered? I bet he not even got there
good morning bloody sir

>>714650198 (OP)
Oh, he's one of these.

>>714650198 (OP)
told you guys its a shit game

>>714666741
>they die
Not really cause Alicia can just bring them back if she feels like it (which she does in her ending)
That alone makes them not comparable to real people

>>714667470
So because someone with godly powers can resurrect people they are no longer real and are of lesser worth than people who can't be resurrected.

Act 1: 10/10
Act 2: 9/10
Act 3: 6/10

I feel like Gustave getting killed was a perfect way to subvert the traditional hero's story archetype, but they just replaced it with the Mary Sue Chosen One stereotype instead. Verso's introduction and the mystery behind all of these characters was the best part of the story, by far, but they did so little with the twists in this game. It was incredibly obvious from the first introduction of Alicia that Maelle was her twin/sister, something. Same thing with Verso looking exactly like Renoir.

Overall great story, though. Much better than the average cinematic slop like God of War or TLOU.

>>714667808
>because someone [can wield imaginary powers in an imagined world]
Sure
This is only one of hundreds of painted worlds they've created as per Renoir

>>714650198 (OP)
Must be really shit in that case

>>714650198 (OP)
Thanks, now I know it's truly shit.

>>714650198 (OP)
/v/contrarians will now pretend they always hated this game despite kissing its toes ever since it came out

>>714668059
So because you can create lots of life individual life becomes worth nothing.

And what do you mean imaginary powers in an imagined world? It's real power in a real world.

>>714663839
I heard this druckmann guy also drinks water.

>>714668516
He probably breaths as well so anon should definitely stop doing that

I've finished it myself.
I skipped through a few playthroughs of women playing this game.
It was actually very interesting seeing the womanbrained clicking so strongly with it, I know it was a female lead writer but it also dealt with masculinity a lot in positive ways, even the capacity for masculine authority to be right even when it's not initially obvious why. /v/ will screech that it was MUH FEMINISED but that's just the retards exposing themselves.
But yeah. Interesting seeing a woman get invested in the story. They seem to really like Sciel in particular, because of her feminine qualities. The gameplay itself seems to not scare them off either, even if some have to turn the difficulty down. Really interesting seeing their reactions, they're really different to men's in a lot of ways.

>>714668305
>>714668175
kek

I never really got the appeal.
>Unreal Engine asset flip
>QTE slop
>Veilguard big head syndrome
Story must be really good to negate those cons, I guess.

>>714650198 (OP)
I don't like him but Druckmann's got a pretty comfy looking pad

>>714650631
>Cuckmann got the Verso ending
Finally, proof that the Maelle ending is the best ending. Imagine getting the same ending as Next Guy

>>714668381
If instead of magical painting powers, the game was about a computer simulation and nothing changed about the inhabitants and their characteristics, would you still insist that it's a real world?

>>714668895
>start the game with one character
>gets murdered by the antagonist
>long elaborate bullshit explanation for why the evil genocidal antagonist is actually the good guy
>completely betray your original goal you began the game with to instead help the bad guys get away with what they did, claim this makes you more mature now or some bullshit
Yep, he got the Verso ending alright

It makes me extremely happy knowing that chuds will never play this masterpiece

>>714668897
Yes it would be real, we would be like gods to that world.

Imagine if we're living in a simulation right now and you find out. I guess people who pick Verso would be fine with killing everyone to save one person from the world who created our world then?

>>714665150
>sentient

>>714650198 (OP)
Irrefutable evidence the game is shit

>>714669192
>Yes it would be real
There is simply a fundamental disagreement here then, I have nothing more to say.

>>714669309
Why can't you answer my second question as well?

>>714669114
The one thing Maelle does that I disagree with is keeping Verso alive(or around at all after act2), he should be killed or put in a fucking cell. He's a piece of shit who does not deserve the love he gets from the group.

>>714669335
Cause if I answer it you're gonna expect me to answer more and it's a self-serving hypothetical that can loop on itself indefinitely and dilute any meaningful distinction between simulations and reality based entirely on "what ifs" rather than the facts presented to you

>>714669698
The hypotethical you presented to me is guilty of exactly what you're accusing me of doing. You just didn't like when my answer pulled in the other direction.

Ive just finished reading a sci-fi novel with a similar premise.
Are "people" born inside a simulation real? If they are trapped inside an endless cycle of failure should they be freed from it? A perfect simulation only exists if the test subjects are independent and self-aware and if so what makes them different from real people outside of lacking psychical bodies?

>MUH STORY!!!

Why not comment on the gameplay?

>>714670397
*physical

>>714650198 (OP)
Just goes to show if you have a good story people will play Turn based RPGs.

Square Enix should take note.

>>714670397
Children of Memory?

>>714671440
Yep
I didnt want to say the title because spoilers and stuff.

>>714671672
Nice. It was the "endless cycle of failure" what gave it away. Crazy series. Apparently there's a fourth book coming next year.

>>714670441
qteslop

>>714671440
>>714671672
>reading a book by the same guy who brought us the story about we wuz refugees n shiet with a starving african nigger protagonist who falls in love with the strong angelic white girl supersoldier

Just started Act 3 and holy shit. Question though. Renoir says he refuses to let Alicia risk her life by staying in the canvas. So is it a "you die in the canvas you die in real life" situation? But they killed Aline and she's apparently fine back in the real world?

>>714650198 (OP)
that just proves how shitty and pozzed it is lol
now go die for israel, you subhuman rat

>>714665150
They're already dead

>>714673472
Not really, expending too much time inside the canvas is like being on crack, it erodes the painters mind and health

>>714652318
imagine being this desperate to lie and failing miserably.

>>714673472
Killing Aline ejected her out, but staying inside permanently would kill her.

>>714673695
I have a different idea and think that the price you pay for losing yourself inside the canvas is losing your identity. It's fine as long as your mental state is intact and you're aware that you're in a painting, something Alicia lacks because of the amount of time she spent as Maelle.

>>714673472
You need rest from paintings
Similar to how you need rest from videya
Difference is Maelle and her mom are mmo tier crackheads who shit under themselves to not lose a single moment of screen time
You can't argue or reason with them similar to how you can't argue with Maelle ending supporters

>>714674145
>the whole game is an allegory for video addiction
oh fug

>>714650868
>implying it's not just posturing for brownie points

>>714674145
Verso and Lumiere are unironically the problems, you're so hooked and attached that you lose your ability to reason that both are gone.

>>714674145
>you can't argue with Maelle ending supporters
Maelle fags and Verso fags are both junkies addicted to happy endings, that's why they try delude themselves into believing that their ending is somehow good, when both are very obviously bad.

Neil Cuckman is the type of guy to act like this while the world laughs at jewish children getting splattered on the floor

I'm actually surprised he didn't report the game to the ADL for not including a mandatory "Holocaust" museum dating simulator.

>>714650198 (OP)
Do you think he remembers games are meant to be fun now?

I thought this game re-ignited my love for games but it turns out I just enjoyed this game and everything else still sucks.

>>714650198 (OP)
Like I needed any more proof the story in this game is fucking gay

>>714675513
Last of us 2 is more fun to play than e33

>>714669947
That hypothetical wasn't meant as an argument or to defend my position, I just wanted to know where you're coming from when I asked you that question.
As I said, if that's how you're approaching it then it's just a fundamental disagreement.

>>714674331
Nah E33's story is an incredibly trite melodrama for midwits, im sure he genuinely enjoyed it

>>714675538
Have you tried not being a complete drone?

>>714650198 (OP)
>Even druckmann
He seems like the target audience

>>714650198 (OP)
Not playing a game about dealing drugs.

>>714675869
You can't explain your point of view though, I tried exploring it with my question but you just shut down immedietly. Our world being a simulation is a pretty popular philosophical theory, so it's not exactly crazy to use it as a comparison, our "painters" just aren't taking an active role(as far as we know).

>>714675951
Give me a game with a better story please, I'm desperate.

The main appeal of the game was the combat and art direction. Saying the writing itself was amazing is a fucking stretch. It openly takes inspiration from Final Fantasy, and the creators have said as much.
There's an assload of plotholes, not the least of which was the paintress behaving exactly as she needed to for everyone in Lumiere to be under the misconception that she was the one who was fucking killing them. You get invested in the story because of its sense of gravitas. Gustave holding Sophie's hands while she's Omlette du Fromaged is genuinely upsetting to watch.

>>714650198 (OP)
>director of astroturfed piece of shit praised another astroturfed piece of shit
you don't fucking say

>>714675513
we don't use the word fun

>>714650198 (OP)
>I'm forever vindicated for shitting on this trash game
nice

>>714676878
Actually, we used to censor it here.

>>714676963
At least until it's released on the Switch 2, when you'll be able to experience how fun it is.

>>714677356
>At least until it's released on the Switch 2
keeeek

its been months and people still don't get that the descendre family are just allegory to the greek gods and how they fucked with and discarded mortals in greek mythology.

1. Yes the people are real inside the painting
2. No, the people that got revived are not different, as the game states as long as the chroma ie. the soul is still inside the painting they can be brought back fully
3. No this doesn't make maelles ending the good ending.

>>714652269
/thread, though I would've said "faggot kike"

I just finished this game. Holy fuck it's good. But Maelle is utterly deranged.

>>714679267
She literally did nothing wrong, except trusting Verso, she should have just killed him earlier.

>>714650198 (OP)
Long nose couldn't help but put his shit in there too. Notice how he framed it slightly to the right so you see his faggy show and posters. This is the jew equivalency of the women taking a photo

Haven't played Expedition 33, can't comment on it, but are we finally admit that Druckie is our guy?

I played TLOU2 two months ago and it was kino. I'm genuinely hyped for Intergalatic. Though I would prefer a more conventionally attractive main character, yeah.

Not even memeing.

>>714679561
Nah you just belong on the front lines mr IDF dick rider

>>714665150
okay explain how this is a bad thing regardless of them being sentient or not

>>714679603
Dunno how that computes, buddy, since if I became God, I would release a wave of cosmic radiation that disintegrates all organic matter in the Middle East. America too, ofc.

Why do people pretend to like this game?

>>714650198 (OP)
Will he learn how to make good games now?

>>714679797
They're paid to. Also many of them are bots, not people.

Maellebros, can you explain this?

>>714650198 (OP)
>Cuckmann

>>714650748
>for people that aren't coddled babies
for sociopaths that endorse genocide and mass murder of babies*

>>714679797
Either discord raid or pajeet shills on minimum wage. Notice the lack of Next Guy memes ITT.

>well I used to like [THING] but now [person I dislike] also likes [THING] so I am forced to abandon [THING]
>[THING] was always shit, never liked it
this is unironically a thought process that tens of thousands of people go through nowadays

>>714679797
paid shilling with a dash of some spurned fags trying to get back at their ex square enix by pretending to love e33

>>714680357
>think E33 is gay and lame
>be validated by giant faggot praising the game

>>714680129
Do you want the actual explanation or just memes?

Basically, Maelle in act II learns to grieve properly over Gustave's death and grows up a bit, learning to direct her hatred and grief towards the Paintress and saving everyone. Then she doesn't just learn that killing the Paintress is meaningless and will actually doom the world, the Paintress is her mother, Renoir is her father, Verso is a painted version of her dead brother that she was partially at fault for getting killed, she's also a crippled mute in the real world with severe depression and a broken family. That's why she becomes obsessed with turning the Canvas into her own Lotus Eater-machine. Lumiere isn't her home, it's her pretend paradise, and she knows this.

>>714680582
Cuckmann HATES the idea of stabbing himself in the balls with a steak knife, why haven't you mutilated yourself, nonny?

>>714680659
I wonder if the price to pay when a Painter enters a canvas is that the canvas can engulf weaker Painters and become a lotus-eater machine.

>>714680878
Both Clea and Renoir are pretty clear about it being a real danger. That's partially why Renoir is so hellbent on getting Aline and Alicia out of there; because he himself had experienced getting engulfed by another Canvas and Aline had to get him out of there.

Based Druckman, he invented my daughter-lover.

>>714680129
To be fair, Maelle did gain a new perspective. Her "real" home is actually million times worse than Lumiere, so I guess she changed her mind.

>>714681193
And with Aline out of the canvas along with all the dead people, the canvas might have preyed on Alicia.

>>714681193
And when Alicia asks Verso, "look, asshole, I don't want to spend my whole life as a disfigured, mute cripple" he just goes "paint yourself a new canvas, lol", because Verso is a shithead to the end.

>>714650952
genocide is good though

>>714681718
He's right though, Alicia will always be Maelle anywhere as long as she remembers her essence, she does not have to suffer as a mute cripple permanently because she has her ability as a Painter but none of that will ever matter if she kills herself over her dead brother.

>>714650868
he got ego checked by Pedro Pascal and now is playing humble

>>714665150
Renoir already gommaged all of them. They're gone. The ones in the ending are toys recreated by Alicia. The only real loss are the Gestral, Grandis and Esquie which sucks but them being bound to die is also probably why Verso made them non human to begin with. Actual humans are already gone. If Renoir didn't delete everyone at the end of act 2 you could make a case for Maelle's ending. But he did. If you pick Maelle, you're an idiot.

>>714652752
No one is thinking about star ocean 3 in 2025

>>714673683
And your solution is giving the one who killed them his good ending.

>>714680745
Pretty sure he pinches his own balls for fun.

>>714682068
>If Renoir didn't delete everyone at the end of act 2 you could make a case for Maelle's ending. But he did. If you pick Maelle, you're an idiot
You are the idiot who thinks someone who commits genocide should be rewarded for his actions rather than suffer the consequences of it.

>>714652348
Verso's Ending is the redpill.
Maelle's ending is the bluepill.

>>714650198 (OP)
fuck now i hate it

>>714682141
People who think that painted Verso wanted that are idiots, but he's spent a century going from believing everyone deserves to live to realizing that it's fucking over because nothing will ever be resolved as long as he exists. And unfortunately painted Verso couldn't kill himself and every opportunity he had was thwarted until Lumiere was finished too.

>>714681767
Post nose.

>>714682068
How did Maelle know about Sciel's miscarriage?
Or did she make that up just to fuck with Verso?

>>714681905
>she does not have to suffer as a mute cripple permanently because she has her ability as a Painter
So what? For her every single canvas is going to be a threat, because her number one goal is to escape her reality of being a mute cripple. Of course she's not going to go back after she paints herself a new canvas.

>>714663571
Must be very self obsessed. It’s okay to be proud of your work, but framed posters of it either side of the TV is a bit faggoty.

>>714681905
He's literally telling her to kill herself somewhere else you fucking retard. All he wants to do is being selfish and dying without any way of a forced comeback.

>>714682269
Go back to Tel Aviv Neil.

>>714682253
Why would I punish Verso, kill Alicia, destroy the whole family because Renoir was an ass? They's nothing to save in the painting. There's a teenager, her sister, their mother to save all while freeing Verso from his prison. If you pick Maelle to punish Renoir you're legit even more retarded than the people thinking Maelle was able to bring everyone back to life.

>>714663571
>>714682352
It's classic narcissism.

>>714682298
It's about Renoir. Renoir commits genocide and gets exactly what he wants in the bad ending. In the good ending he suffers another death in the family for his actions. True justice.

>>714682450
>Zoom zoom doesn't get the Matrix reference

For me the golden ending would be Alicia getting out of the painting, but leaving her family behind, because I refuse to trust the well-being of this mentally and physically broken girl to this family of sociopaths. That's child abuse.

>>714682339
That is incorrect, because it's this canvas (With Painted Verso) that has a specific problem and affected even her mother. It's clear from Aline freaking out when she heard about Alicia entering it that weakness is an issue and a more experienced Alicia won't be overwhelmed the way she is here; more specifically, the awareness that she painted what she did will prevent her from getting intoxicated by the canvas.

>>714682402
>Being selfish and dying
More like letting go after coping about everyone getting along and finally seeing that it's not possible. Painted Verso is as much a doomed man as his dead counterpart, all he could do was to nudge one other person out.

>>714682504
>Why would I punish Verso
Because he helped Renoir in killing everyone. Even quoted him for for word at the ends so his actions are motivated by the genocider.
>If you pick Maelle to punish Renoir
I'm on the right. And you showed your own stupidty with the rest of your post too. Delusional on all ends and levels.

Your bad actions have consequences.

>>714669130
Look at them go!

>>714682713
>More like letting go
He "let go" for everyone else as well you fucking faggot. Lune didn't want to let go jack shit but Verso doesn't care because all he wants is to suicide without a way of being forced to comeback. That's all he wants he has mo retort other than projecting his own hypocrisy onto others.

>>714682732
You lost when you decided to cherry pick what you address. I accept your concession.

>>714682713
>That is incorrect, because it's this canvas (With Painted Verso) that has a specific problem and affected even her mother.
No, YOU are wrong. Every canvas is dangerous, because Renoir himself said he also lost himself in a canvas at one point and I assume it has nothing to do with Verso at that point.
And Alicia's specific problem is that she doesn't want to live a life of a cripple. She'll most likely get intoxicated in an instant the second she can talk again.

>>714650198 (OP)
who cares
next guy!

>>714650198 (OP)
>how can I steal this for my project somehow

>>714682901
You lost before you even clicked post when you typed that shit that merely calls people smarter than you retarded rather than being able to retort their facts.

>>714682569
>troons stealing valor from Ron Paul fans

>>714682898
Lune is only alive to seethe because Verso taught Alicia how to bring her back though.

>>714682963
Clea also said that her parents have spent more time in other canvases, and the way Renoir spoke about the time he got lost and how Aline said there was a price strongly implies he had issues that made him get lost in it. So the point remains the same, Alicia won't have to be crippled and mute most of the time and the issue is simply that she doesn't want to face what she did and what she lost.

you can tell this nigga is begging those frogs to make him part of their next project, even as an "executive producer" to later on convince them to give him creative power. he is that kind of kike.

>>714683224
>because Verso
He got her killed twice because of his own selfishness. I don't get how you believe that helps your argument.

>>714683224
>the issue is simply that she doesn't want to face what she did and what she lost.
And that haven't changed one bit. She still doesn't want to be a cripple and she still has issues. So why would painting a new canvas that will be as toxic to her as Verso's one help?

>>714683324
He is probably gonna get fired from ND soon and is looking for a new host to latch onto.

>>714650198 (OP)
>he has posters of his own games in his living room
Genuine narcissist behaviour

>>714679561
/v/ is not yet ready for this discussion even after 5 years. I will forever state the TLOU2 is an amazing game, just short of a masterpiece. Listen to /v/, but always take the hive mind's opinion with a grain of salt.

>>714683858
>TLOU2 is an amazing game
lol
lmao

Verso=good ending retards are literally the most retarded people on the planet. In case you all forgot why Clea did the things she did, it WAS FO GET HER MOTHER TO FIGHT A WAR WITH HER. There is no reconciliation, no happy ever after, clea is currently fighting a war and she wants her family to participate. Said writers are most likely magical and are willing to kill. Also
>Gustave beckoning Alicia/Maelle instead of waving goodbye
>Nobody even holding Alicia/Maelle at versos gravestone
>Her own mother hating her
>Her sister not even looking at her
>WW1 most likely around the corner
As we all know, the best time for a mentally scarred teenager to heal is in a war with a magical faction in which most likely a few family members are gonna die.

I would kill everyone on this board and all of their families to save my own if I had to. I don't blame Renoir for any of it.

>>714650631
The NEXT GUY NEXT GUY! ending.

>>714684283
Yeah, everybody keeps forgetting that Clea wants to throw her family into a war with the Writers. You think Renoir is going to convince fucking CLEA to chill the fuck out, if he wasn't even able to convince the nice and shy daughter to do what he tells her to?
This family is so fucked.

>>714684283
This is without a doubt the least charitable interpretation of the Verso ending I have ever read, on par with the "Maelle is a god puppeteering all of Lumiere" interpretation of her ending. I like seeing so many perspectives of this game, it's so funny.

Maelle did the right thing for the wrong reasons.
Verso did the wrong thing for the right reasons.
Can't change my mind.

>>714680129
She grew up and realized how good she had it in Lumiere.

>>714684283
Your argument is emotional. It's not about Maelle. Clea wants the canvas gone so that Aline and Renoir can focus up and contend with the writers with her. With the Canvas gone the three can target the writers. What Alicia does chooses Clea could care less. She'd rather her do something and be proactive, but what she does doesn't matter all that much to her. However, the canvas can't remain because it constantly causes fights between Aline and Renoir. She can make her own Canvas (Clea also points out that Alicia didn't care for painting before).

>>714684408
Well, the true adult in the room would actually go out of their way to avoid this stupid trolley problem altogether.

>>714684732
Yeah, that sounds like a healthy family.
Again, putting Alicia back into this family of sociopaths is child abuse.

If Maelle could repaint everyone in Lumiere perfectly, why can't she do it in a different canvas after the addictive one has been erased?

>>714684283
The funniest thing is that the fanfiction Verso pickers have for Maelles ending is completely unhinged, that she's mind controlling everyone and forces her will like a dictator.

While reasonable takes like Maelle being depressed in Versos ending is answered with fan fiction about she's actually smiling in his ending and is fine now, absolutely retarded.

>>714684619
Lol, retard. They are going to war. This is a fact. This is literally the worst part about it. In fact clea had so little time that she just quickly painted over the painting instead of going in on her own. Play the game and youd know

>>714684978
Because in a different canvas she would be using different chroma. Those won't be "her" friends anymore, just copies.
Also, EVERY canvas is addictive, that's the whole point.

>>714661796
>Suddenly /v/ has a problem with Hitler
Shalom

>>714685130
>They are going to war.
They are literally already involved in a war, Clea isn't trying to start one. That ship sailed long ago.

>>714684732
Exactly. You just proved my point. The maelle ending is better for Alicia. There's nothing there for her in the "real" world. What is emotional about that. They all killed millions of beings for nothing (that being waging in a war)

>>714685312
Which is another reason for Alicia to sit it out in a canvas.

>>714685258
>Those won't be "her" friends anymore, just copies.
I don't see why that would be an issue since she's fine pretending Painted Verso is her actual brother.
>EVERY canvas is addictive, that's the whole point.
Let's not pretend the emotional attachment isn't part of the reason this canvas is causing a massive issue, if it wasn't for Verso's soul it would be much easier for them to let go of this one.

>>714685494
Yeah, but this due is literally too retarded understand that this painting is destroyed because they want to pull the mother in the war (Clea at least). It's funny how once this point is brought up the logic shifts from "they should reconcile and face reality" to "uhm surely nobody is going to die in that war hahahh"

>>714685318
Renoir and Clea murders all those people to control Aline, they feel they have the right to force their will on her, very abusive. I think Aline forgiving Renoir in Versos ending makes 0 sense. She'll probably poison him later on.

>>714685615
>if it wasn't for Verso's soul it would be much easier for them to let go of this one.
No, because she still has emotional attachement to Lumiere. Also, which part of "she doesn't want to live as a cripple" have you missed?

>>714650198 (OP)
wtf i hate expedition 33 now

>>714685836
>No, because she still has emotional attachement to Lumiere.
Then she can repaint Lumiere in another canvas as well. It's not that hard.
>Also, which part of "she doesn't want to live as a cripple" have you missed?
If she really doesn't want to she can just keep painting Lumieres and her friends in different canvases until everyone gives up on her and lets her die anyway. She doesn't have to let anyone or anything go if she doesn't want to, ever.

>>714685615
She literally tells painted Verso he's different from real Verso, she just accepts this Verso as a new replacement brother. This is really her only mistake, Verso does not deserve anyones love. Painted Alicia actually understands how big of a shit he is, she refuses to speak with him when she asks Alicia to end her and doesn't consider him to be part of her family anymore.

>>714686156
And this solves the problem of her becoming emotionally attached to a canvas... how?
She's literally doing the same thing she did before.

>>714652752
>randomly bringing up star ocean 3 unprompted
you're actually seething over something you saw somewhere else lmao

>>714686175
>She literally tells painted Verso he's different from real Verso
This is a lie to make him feel better, if you couldn't tell. In both endings she reveals herself. In Verso's she says "Don't do this, don't leave me again." In her own ending she says "I just wanted to live this lifetime together, this lifetime that was stolen from us. Please brother, please." She absolutely does still see him as someone he isn't, which is part of Verso's entire problem.

>>714653519
I would pay to watch you be raped by Nigerians.

>>714686156
You cannot recreate the people in a different canvas, you need the chroma in there for them to retain their personality and memories. They would just be weird copies. That's why she's desperate to stay, when it's destroyed they are gone forever.

>>714686626
For sure it's a bit confused especially when emotions are raging at the end, but she is well aware he's very different than real Verso(He's a piece of shit).

kill yourselves kikes

>>714686771
>she is well aware he's very different than real Verso(He's a piece of shit).
She wants to be, but she can't help but see him as the brother she lost. That's all she'll ever see, and the first hint of this is during the epilogue when she asks if Clea saw Verso in the canvas and was warned not to forget he's not real. The epilogue reveals a lot about the way Maelle thinks, feels, and reasons at the end, and she's quite content to believe Painted Verso is her real brother.

Aren't you guys getting bored talking about the same thing over and over again?

>>714650198 (OP)
How can Druckmann appreciate good media while still making absolute garbage himself?

>>714687380
the same way i can, probably

>>714687380
A jew must train himself into spotting fine things so he can corrupt and subvert them afterwards

>>714687134
I agree that she's content to see him as her real brother. That is her one mistake, but compared to everyone else she's still a saint, that's just a shortcoming that harms herself, Verso is completely undeserving of the love he gets.

How repulsive. God damn, I fucking hate you game wrecking faggots with your feelings and your stories and all that other gross bullshit.
>Ohw hwohwoawha the credits rolled and I FELT SOMETHING OHH HOW WONDERFU-
Shut the fuck up, shut the fuuuuuuuuuck up. God damn.
Story enjoyers have ruined EVERYTHING.
Someone show this GARBAGE GAMES GAMEPLAY.
Do it.

Jamie, pull the clip up. Show them the gameplay from this GARBAGE.
These faggots are dumping their guts on the floor for "the titantic, but its on land."

>>714676963
Please, put a bullet in me and end the horror.

PARRY IT

>>714687627
>Verso is completely undeserving of the love he gets.
That's a completely reasonable stance. Verso commits a lot of heinous, treacherous acts fueled by desperation, hopelessness, and self-hatred. And none of those things excuse any of his sins. So I have no real argument for anyone who hates Verso or sees him as the villain or wants to "punish" him using Maelle's ending, because he kind of has it coming. I just sympathize with him.

>>714687854
Ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2MczRG5igI

>>714687854

Either take your pills or admit that you are a closeted faggot.

Your choice.

>>714688217
Who let you out of the corner. Go back to crying in it about how touched you were during the top 10 anime betrayals or whatever you losers are doing.

>>714688095
>Verso, dodge!

>pseuds love it
yeah i'll pass

>>714687380
The reality is that he can't.
So what does that indicate about E33?

>>714688147
>I just sympathize with him.
why?

I feel like a lot of losers online "sympathize" with him, because he is a cool guy and you play as him, so you project and self-insert into him.

>>714650868
You should know that the slop is meant for you, not for him.

>>714674145
If Maelle leaves the canvas Renoir will destroy it.
Renoir made this very, very clear.

>>714688289

It sounds like there is some trauma you should be dealing with anon. It's unreasonable and odd for someone to lose his shit like that over people's love for a video game. Anything you wanna get off your chest?

If Verso wanted to die so badly he could've just waited it out until Alicia dies irl, shortly after Renoir would destroy the Canvas. Based off Maelle's ending he doesn't have to wait that long.

They're not subtle about how much of a traitorous liar painted Verso is and it reflects what Aline and Renoir think of their son, Painted Verso being Aline's vision of Verso and Visage being Renoir's vision of Verso.

>>714650198 (OP)
> Even druckmann is praising it
who gives a fuck? His opinion doesn't fucking matter. I don't care if he likes it or hates it. All that matters is if I like it or not.

>>714688565
Eh.
Verso doesn't give a fuck about Maellicia. He just wants to die, by any means necessary. Even his last words to her in her ending are "unpaint me" rather than "don't throw your life away" or something. It was always about him.

>>714688565
>why?
Because you can observe his change in stance from "all painted people deserve no less of a chance at life than the painters outside this world" to his current one, and I think about what almost one hundred years of being in Verso's situation would've done to me. I wonder if I would make the same choices he made, and how hard it would be to maintain an optimistic outlook while I came to understand that, somewhere out there in a world I couldn't see, my mother was dying. I don't really care how "cool" he is.

>>714688565
I think you're right in that many take his side because he gets to be the main character in both a2 and a3, Maelle should have been the one you control in camp in a3. I just felt dirty playing him.

>>714690023
>I think about what almost one hundred years of being in Verso's situation would've done to me

depressed sadboy wank. His stance hasnt changed much other than he is more sad and selfish. Before you reach the end he actually wants Maelle to bring back Julie, so he still feels that way and sees value in their lives. So you dont even get him.

>>714669130
I just finished it a couple days ago. It was very okay.

>>714673472
No. Maelle is just a fucking retard who plans to spend the entirety of her life until her lifeforce burns out in the painted world. If she just wasn't an idiot and learned some moderation, she'd be fine and Renoir wouldn't want to destroy that world.

>>714677356
>Actually, we used to censor it here.
He was quoting Druckmann

The game was so canned it couldn’t keep me interested in a fucking trailer. These people who couldn’t understand puns in Shakespeare should not be allowed to critique a dog

>>714690778
>got her brother killed herself crippled her family tearing apart
Renoir should be happy to let her waste her life in escapist fantasy considering what a fuckup she apparently was in the real world.

>>714690613
>depressed sadboy wank.
These are just meaningless buzzwords, you aren't even saying anything here.
>he still feels that way and sees value in their lives.
I never said he stopped seeing any value in their lives, that much is evident when he looks to Sciel and Lune for any semblance of forgiveness or understanding after he sends Maelle home in his ending. He DOESN'T stop believing in the value of painted life, which is what makes his shift in outlook and goal so meaningful.

>>714691090
Renoir still loves his daughter. Verso even told her that despite how she views herself, she's the favorite child.

>>714650198 (OP)
That's how you know it's bad.

>>714691114
>makes his shift in outlook and goal so meaningful.

Meaningful as in thinking like your average school shooter?

>>714691167
>Renoir still loves his daughter
He's just a shit dad. One does not exclude the other, that's the point.

>>714690778
Renoir tells her he's going to destroy it before he knows she wants to stay, he wants to do it so Aline can never get back in again.

>>714691243
Just out of curiosity.
Which is your favorite RPG?

>>714691425
>He's just a shit dad.
Nta but yeah, he tries but in all the wrong ways. The Reacher dungeon tells us as much with the green Orphelin. He admits he wasn't a good husband either, at least not when Aline really needed him to be one after Verso's death. It's probably part of the reason she took solace in the painting to begin with.

>>714691831
And the retarded thing is that destroying the canvas REALLY doesn't solve any of the issue.
It's like being on a crusade to destroy every hammer in the city, because your family can't stop hitting each other with hammers. At this point it's not the hammers that are the problem.
But Renoir got so fixated on his solution that he forgot to try different solutions.

>>714692143
Agreed, but one of the weakest point of the game is that it kinda makes him right when Aline just forgives him in Versos ending. It makes no sense really that she would. But I guess it had to be done to give that ending some kind of upside. My headcanon is that she kills him in his sleep later on.

>>714691831
You might actually be too dumb for a very straightforward game. Verso tells Maelle at the end that Renoir wants to destroy the painted world because Renoir knows Maelle is lying and will spend her whole life there, but Renoir lied to himself and decided to believe that she'd leave on her own after you beat him.

>>714692028
>The Reacher dungeon tells us as much with the green Orphelin.
Yeah. Just because you believe very hard that your paraplegic daughter will one day become a ballerina, it doesn't mean it'll actually happen, but you are as a result putting A LOT of pressure on a poor girl.
>He admits he wasn't a good husband either
This is actually painted Renoir who says so, but that only shows how Aline views him. Alicia also calls him out on the fact that he just wants to fix the problem without taking into consideration if this fix will solve anything. But he still goes along with it because he wants to feel that he's being proactive, even to other people's detriment.

>>714682314
The people who complain 24/7 they've gone through a genocide? The people who literally invented the word genocide to be eternal victims?

>>714692345
That's why I feel that Verso's ending is painfully naive. I don't believe in this miraculous get together. This family is dysfunctional to the core, they wouldn't just happily put it behind them.

>>714692557
Yes later on in the game he does fight to stop her from staying in the canvas as well. But in the end of act 2 when you meet real Renoir the first time Maelle meets up with him all happy and hopeful that they'll be best friends and fix the canvas together. He then tells her he's going to destroy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuEXyeu2mU

There you go. It's also funny how he blames Aline for the suffering Verso has been through, when his life in the canvas was happy before Renoir started murdering and destroying everything.

>>714693307
Aline has spent 100 years trying to save the lives of innocent canvas people while her husband murders as many as he possibly can to force her home. Really a recipe for a happy marriage.

>>714650198 (OP)
probably thought this is how a real writer would write a video game and imagine getting spanked from behind

>>714693739
>But in the end of act 2 when you meet real Renoir the first time Maelle meets up with him all happy and hopeful that they'll be best friends and fix the canvas together.
Yeah, that's the scene that galvanized it for me that Renoir is a shit father. He knows for a fact that his daughter is at this point traumatized to a core, maybe throwing monsters at her isn't the best idea.
Maybe just chill the fuck out, go get some ice cream and have a conversation about it. Hell, in Renoir's shoes I would've even fixed Lumiere for Alicia, just to show her I care for her. Also, he knows for a fact that the canvas people have a positive effect on his daughter, he has seen it every day in the expedition camp where he was chilling as a Curator. He can actually use that to his advantage. But no, he picks the most extreme and blunt solution he can think of, because I dunno, I guess he's in a hurry or something.

>>714653519
>You can feel it it wants to be woke, and the people who made it are woke, but they know gamers hate this, and they tried to tune it down, but still do it anyway.
Bingo

>>714664939
Who are you kiding, you haven't played the game or you would know that there is literally not a single black character in the game beyond a few back ground NPCs

>>714693261
The word genocide was invented by armenians though.

>>714696959
The word “genocide” was first coined by jewish lawyer Raphäel Lemkin in 1944 in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.

>>714665301
>spark flickers in lizard brain
>what if big number + big number = biggerer number???
>game difficulty never recovers
it's retarded how broken the damage scaling system is. You can legitimately do over a trillion damage and kill 100x Simon like 20 times over

>>714699254
Sure, if you follow a step by step guide and do an hour of preparation work to set it up. Nothing's forcing you to play like that.

>>714650198 (OP)
That's the worst news I've heard all day, and I really really enjoyed the game.

>>714650198 (OP)
Movie watching praising moviegame

>look everybody I also like the popular game
>please stop hating me
next guy

>>714693307
Painted Verso doesnt give two fucks about what happens to the Renoirs.
He only wants resolution from an existence that is only a prank