Thread 714659593

strike at karkland

>>714659593 (OP)
Based. Still one of the top-tier BF maps. Tight urban combat, armor rolling down the streets, jets screaming overhead-absolute chaos. Nothing hits quite like trying to cap the hotel with C4 and a prayer. They just don’t make ‘em like Karkand anymore.

>>714659593 (OP)
nade spam and revival farming

>>714659593 (OP)
you will surely get the karkand

why can't I drive boats anymore

>>714659608
>jets screaming overhead

>>714659608
karkand doesn't have aircraft

Karkand wasn't good, everyone just played it because it was easy to grind XP on

wake island is shit

>>714659824
Everyone played it because it was fun and one of the few maps you dont get absolutely raped by one good guy with a jet. I was there and already an adult when BF2 came out so I know more.

>>714659824
guess that's why they reintroduced the map in a later game, to the joy of their fans, so that they can finally grind xp comfortably again

>>714660174
im pretty sure its the only map in game that has absolutely no air vehicles on it no matter the size. The great wall map in the european expansion was originally supposed to have a 64 player version with transport helis for each team, but was cut out

>>714660174
Or you just play infantry only like normal people

the magswap of infinite ammo

Road to Jalalabad is better

>>714659824
>grind XP
Thanks for reminding me why I hate BF2 for making that shit popular.

>>714659608
>armor rolling down the streets
lmao imagine playing karkand on a non-infan--
>jets screaming overhead
Yeah you never played the game

FRAG OUT

>>714659593 (OP)
>SURELY
>SAAR

>>714661241
KOONGOOLA

>>714659593 (OP)
>make the US flag uncappable
>therefore if MEC is much better it gets spawn farmed
What genius thought this was a good idea

>>714662114
i always do better when i'm not on the mec side. You're just going to be getting raped by grenade spam if you're on mec.

The quality of the average player back in 2005 was much better. Even in pub servers every squad would be full and 90% of the pople would stick together and diligently fulfill their roles. Everyone was a team player and understood that supporting the team meant winning the match.

Then Call of Duty ruined everything by turning everyone since into selfish lonewolves obsessed over k/d ratios. every modern bf game still has squads but the game is designed for u to just run and gun by yourself full autoing for kills and lootbags.

>>714660359
US never won this map

Operation Flaming Dart

>>714662827
Did napalm even work in this game? I remember it doing 0 damage

>>714660359
Flan and back cap a flag or two on US. Doesn't matter none of your team spawn there because they want to get ground into meat running across open ground at the first two flags all game.

>>714659608
You're remembering the demo map oman or something, karkand was like the worst map in the game, instant server emptier.

It's never a good idea to have such linear progression with a massive obstacle cutting the map in half.

>>714662819
US very often won that map. The entire MEC team always rushed the front so all it took was one car getting past and US could steal the mosque flag, and then MEC were fucked since they had no more tanks/satellite/UAV.

>>714662921
it looked cool, that was good enough for me.

>>714659593 (OP)
good times

>>714659593 (OP)
this map ruined battlefield forever

You will get the karkland

The Iron Gator

for me its mashtuur city

I liked this map except only on 32p. 64p added flags to the islands on the east and who the fuck wants flags on little tiny islands?

>>714663420
>mecsf auto lose, nobody has fun in the process
no

Camp Gibraltar

Cerbere Landing

The AA placements were very important on this map

Oasis

Yellow Knife chads get in here

>>714663743
map is shit. If you're not in a tank you're fucked

Buccaneer Bay

>>714663925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQc6sRvuh4M

this still plays in my head sometimes

Victory Village

>bf5 was ass
>2042 is more ass
>don't worry guys, our next game will be great
>100m players for sure

Valparaiso

Arica Harbor

I remember playing this on a massive local LAN party back in 2008 ish, most of us were noobs, which made everything much more fun because you weren't just dominated by jets who knew where every AA emplacements were.

I remember a strategy we developed in our squad on Zataar wetlands where I, as a squad leader, would fly a black hawk helicopter in a circular pattern around a base, minigun facing down, with two mechanics keeping the helicopter flying despite harassment by jets and as long as we weren't hit by a gunship TV, we'd be able to capture just about any base just having squadmembers spawn on me and jumping down in parachutes, supported by the minigun on the heli.

It was amazing to see such plans actually work out, but it wasn't just that one plan, it was many different plans for different maps.
In spec ops, we'd be a squad where everyone were medics and in some other we would all be mechanics.

Battlefield 2 was amazing for that sort of stuff, and it was never really fully replicated.

>>714664081
nuDICE disgusts me
>Yeah bro it's back to the basic mans
>Gameplay trailer revealed its anything but that
These fucks have no shame

Hill 137

>>714664250
We were 64 players so we'd fill up an entire server.

One of the greatest moments were when we'd almost wiped, every flag taken by the enemy and we'd have one guy sneaking to take one flag, everyone would run over to his screen and cheer for him as he took the flag so we could all spawn in, it was amazing, good memories.

>>714664292
Can't wait for bf6's singleplayer campaign in which we invade Gaza.

Which BF games after 2 are payable solo? Bought Easy Red 2 during the steam sale but it didn't feel like BF. Thinking of going back to BF1942 / BF2 / BF:V.

>Remember grinding that god awful BF3 single player campaign to get the G3A3 which you could only get by playing the single player campaign
>It was a complete piece of shit no matter the attachments

Operation Firestorm

Damavand Peak

>>714659593 (OP)
terrible map which is ruined by nade spam
the whole game is shit if you play with people who know how to abuse its shitty mechanics

Siege of Shanghai

>>714660359
>>714662819
>>714663097
couldnt you swim somewhere around here trough the restricted area and get behind the enemy lines?

Zavod 311

hear me out for a second
...
Operation
Irving

This fucker + heavy barrel was my weapon during the later stages of BF3.
Semi-auto only, you could knock out skilled snipers from half the damn map.

Bank Job

Speaking of BF3 does anyone remember before they patched it out how US infantry would shout IM GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS OVER HERE when being under heavy fire?

It was hilarious but then a bunch of a morons on Battlelog forums started posting how they didn't want their children to hear so much cussing despite the game being rate 18+

>>714659743
You can in BF1

Hollywood Heights

Monte Grappa

>>714665293
Too bad it couldn't be an APB replacement

Amiens

Devastation

Iwo Jima

Orbital

I spent tons of time with BF3 and have fond memories but unfortunately this is where BF started to go wrong
>Removal of Commander role
>Didn't even have the commorose at launch
>Complete collapse in playerbase iq, the amount of retards who didn't resupply your etc doubled
>nobody stopped when you asked for a ride etc
>Death of organic teamplay with randoms you didn't even communicate with
I guess what saves it was that the core game was still Battlefield and they still understood that you need good maps and not just retarded ass tech demo crap.

>>714659639
Reminds me of Metro. At least in Karkand you could go around

Kaleidoscope

are there any recent games that are like this? that are actually good?

Abbasid

How in the ever loving fuck did this map get the stamp of approval?
It's pretty bad from the start but the moment the flood hits it honestly turns into one of the worst multiplayer experiences of my life.
Everytime I saw floodzone i'd just ALT+F4

Capstone

>>714665995
>this is where BF started to go wrong
no, that's bad company where they started to cater to consoles and copying CoD

>>714659743
I assume because boats would be severely limited to every other vehicle for obvious reasons. With air and land vehicles players can go anywhere which encourages them to stay proactive in the fight when it comes to taking and defending objectives. With water based vehicles players are pretty much limited to water for obvious reasons so dudes who insist on staying on boats ultimately serve a much more limited purpose, mostly camping off the coast and sometimes sending some artillery down range.

Anyone up for a bf2 game?
You can still play it online through bf2hub.
https://www.bf2hub.com/home/
The game is essentially free since pirated copies work totally fine with bf2hub.

How are BF1's operation and conquest maps in comparison? I have a WW1 itch as of late.

Wake Island
Now the, think long and hard what game you thought of when i said that

>>714666167
This is one of those maps blatantly designed for levolution gimmick, it doesn't help that the scout helis and LAVs are so out of place here.

Can BF2 boomers cast their nostalgia glasses aside for a moment and genuinely explain why almost all refractor Battlefield are viewed in a favorable light despite being inferior to Frostbite BF games?
How can you seriously defend pic related? How can you be blind to the fact that ALL remade BF2 maps play like absolute garbage? And how can you still deny that BF2 was inferior to games like CoD4 and CS?

>>714665153
the last good battlefield game

>>714666260
>>714666130
How do the BF56 alpha maps flow compared to BF5's infantry maps like Devastation, Province, Rotterdam etc?
I hope to fuck that they're nowhere near as bad as 2042's infantry maps.

>>714663420
>Special Forces had so many unique ideas for maps and playstyles
>completely dead because they locked all the maps to XP owners and not many people actually bought the XP
God that sucked.

>>714666669
I would argue that the Bad Company series was mainly designed with the fun factor in mind. You can see the same sort of map design approach in games like the finals since the same devs worked on them.

>>714666520
Machine guns have poor accuracy when standing. You need to go prone or switch weapon

>>714666742
Controversially I would say the #1 problem design wise with modern BF titles, and this isn't counting that they NEVER work right on release as in actually playable, is map design. Nobody who works at DICE for at least the last 10 years straight now knows how to design fun maps. They all suck. Battlefield lives and dies by how fun and memorable the maps themselves are.

>>714666520
>hitreg
Yawn
https://youtu.be/gakBXjktlwM?feature=shared

>>714666853
>Battlefield lives and dies by how fun and memorable the maps themselves are.
exactly. All BC2 maps, even the worst ones, are memorable in some way since the map-to-map gameplay differed significantly. BF3 has this too, especially with the DLC maps. You had infantry-only maps, vehicle maps and a solid mix of both. 4 shit the bed in terms of map flow and design, all environments in that game play the damn same.

>>714666520
Imagine how shit the game would be if you could just run up and machinegun people from 50 yards away.

>>714666853
>Nobody who works at DICE for at least the last 10 years straight now knows how to design fun maps
how DO you design a fun/good map?

>>714667096
Yeah imagine...machineguns with 8x scopes. Would't that be horrible?

>>714667124
First problem is there's no variety in setup anymore. Every single map in the modern BF games are "Conquest", as in each side has an uncappable base with neutral points in the center at the start. It's the same thing every time. Battlefield 2 and 2142 had Assault, Karkand is an example as is Jalalabad. Double Assault, Conquest but the starting points are cappable. Etc.

I'm guessing their "theory" is they don't have to have variety anymore because other game modes like Rush exist now but it's not the same thing to me.

>>714659608
Fuck you fake ass nigga

>>714666625
abbasid plays similarly to grand bazaar due to the size and setting and it's the most map that had baserape/all cap
battery is "what if we took the village portion from provence and made an entire map our of it", didn't like how small it was, there's was no need to make it that small when abbasid exists
capstone is your typical combined arms map with vehicles and infantry which is okay but the mountain near C can be climbed which is concerning
the rush layouts for abbasid & battery are absolute clusterfuck meatgrinders, capstone was better in that regard and it was very reminiscent of cold war from BC2

>>714667705
>it was very reminiscent of cold war from BC2
BadCompanybros, we are so fucking BACK

>>714667705
thanks for the brief info dump. I hope these maps play better than 2042, I really do. I don't trust BF6 to be any good since the retards in charge of 2042 are also managing it.
>absolute clusterfuck meatgrinders
most rush maps are at 16v16. I hope there's enough lanes for maneuverability

>saw BF2042 is 95% off
>maybe i'll try it
>read reviews
>EA apparently released an update very recently mandating that you restart your computer into secure boot mode every single time just to play their shitty game
LOL

>>714668280
friendly reminder that every retarded anticheat decision regarding 2042 will also carry over into BF6

>>714666375
>sometimes sending some artillery down range.
Easy Red 2 doesn't have boats either but I like how it does artillery:
>Squad leader orders a strike at location X
>Radio man calls it in
>Arty gets coordinates, dials the range in sights and lets it sing

>>714668303
Fuck you, the DLC maps were God-tier. the post-earthquake city maps were absolute kino

>>714666520
They're both inferior to DICE/Bad Company.

EA is never going to backtrack on putting women in combat roles in their games because it'll look like a huge concession and I'm never buying a multiplayer war game with women characters with their annoying girly scream soundbites constantly blaring in my ears. It is SO ANNOYING

>>714668575
Based but also kind of basic bitch opinion in current year. Not even army ads feature troons or women as much as the previous years.

What is the current mil shooter with more tactical play but not extreme /k/ autism? I did insurgency in 2010s and liked the infantry focus. But shit got worse when every server was turning into a /pol/ shitfest with memefags. Are there any decent shooter games left that aren't COD/fartnight/nu counterstrike gacha farms or obnoxious shitpost games. Insurgency sandstorm?

>>714668719
>it's a cringe opinion to have because it's popular now
Have you considered graduating middle school and moving on? You think women soldiers are based because it's alternative and grunge again?

>>714666520
Full Auto causes shit spread, you have to fire in small bursts to reset the spread or go prone. The M249 was also much harsher in that regard. The RPK-74 and the chinese LMG were suffering a bit less from that spread.

Ok, so bfbc2 is the best battlefield

you will surely get the karkland

>>714668798
No, I'm saying I agree with you. But your statement sounded more controversial than it actually is, in my view.

>>714668874
>Full Auto
>guy in webm clearly shows him burst-firing

>>714668575
I made the mistake of buying BF5 and I always avoid reviving a teammate if they have a female skin

reminder that instead of getting mad about how terrible the new BF games are you can just play BF2 instead

https://www.bf2hub.com/servers

>>714670014
>2 servers left that get full
>Strike at Karkand
>Wake Island

>>714659593 (OP)
What a good game

Fjell 652

>>714670829
dogshit map for non-infantry. hate getting farmed by planes

>>714659593 (OP)
ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED

>>714670185
the top server isn't running either

Manifest

>>714659593 (OP)
>US team refuses to move down the right side of the map so they get turtled into their own base

>>714671616
>it's been so long that 14 year olds who played this as their first BF can post here now

Why were the Chinese maps so shit?

Tsaritsyn

>Operation Locker
>full auto shotty
Some of you guys are alright
Don't come to the cell block cap point tomorrow

BF2142 was so great

>>714659593 (OP)
I miss dropping supply boxes and vehicles on enemy snipers.

>>714665995
The worst part was how bad the minimap was at showing information. The terrain didn't line up probably and some things weren't show on the map.
Apparently they outsourced the minimap to another company then had to remake it themselves months later.

>>714667096
>if you could just run up and machinegun people from 50 yards away.
you mean like real life?
hell I rage quit the shit genre when I'd AT weapon some fucking helicopter 3 or 4 times for them to fuck off and come back and harass me. these games are just time wasting humiliation rituals.

>>714672797
>Real life
Old Battlefield has never strived to be a realistic milsim for obese greaselords.

>>714672797
Shoot the pilots out with your gun then claim the chopper as your own. Better yet, hide with it so the enemy is permanently denied a chopper.

>>714666520
crouch or prone (especially with lmgs) retard

>>714672797
A squad with two engineers, a support and a medic/assault can kill helis easily. The problem is that the IQ of the average player is low so they expect to be able to solo everything.

>>714671616
garbage before and after the rework. I don't even know if it's the layout, the overuse of containers, mackay or sundance or the combination of all these that makes the map so shit to play on

Kharg Island

>>714663007
>You're remembering the demo map oman or something
That's what I was thinking of when I saw OP and was confused because I didn't remember the island to the right

>>714666312
>optimizing shaders

Suez Canal 64p Titan 24/7

is project reality still dead?

>>714663512
>>714663572
You can clearly see this is where the enshittification begun, corridor style chokepoint spam type of maps, this is what the series was ever since until bf2042

>>714673928
EU still plays, there's only 1 server though

Oman was the best BF2 map, change my mind

>>714664909
Airgods on this map was what kept me up at night.

Paracel Storm

>>714668498
based bad company gawd
bc2 was my favorite modern multi-player shooter

>>714666406
Can anyone answer? If I'm gonna get it it should at least have a couple of fun maps.

>>714674239
true, but gibraltar was dumb fun kino especially that corridor of death on 64p

>>714676761
it's like $3 just refund it if you don't like it

Operation Clean Sweep

>>714666406
BF1 feels like one of the only multiplayer experiences that feels like a set piece. Its pretty good, but if youre just coming into it now youre going to get trounced by people who havent stopped playing since release, if you can see through that its great. Even when you lose operations its still really fun because of the scale of it.

Also what the fuck happened to the sound design, BF1 going to BFV and beyond was fucking heinous. Listen to the difference in the round drawing to a close themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znbNpEtY7bk&list=PLvScymsoBlJxTl7h4G9WusiSxLHy-dB6E&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exftHmSUbAY&list=PLWSdqi2CaSJ4J084bw2baW4JiuxPrymh8&index=2
When the track nears the end its suppose to feel intense as the music builds up and the timer/tickets run out, I dont know what the fuck the direction was for the following BF games.

>>714659593 (OP)
>strike at karkland
>gatcha
>africa harbor
I will never understand why people insist on adding an extra letter to words and names.

>>714666384
Sure nigga just to download bf2

Also i know reddit and all but if you dont like bf2hub you can also check playbf2.
reddit.com/r/Battlefield2/

Also call me a boomer but i fucking suck ass in bf4,1 and 5 idk why but it always seems like players are on some sort of drugs by the way they just laser me

>>714659593 (OP)
>We are LOSING this battle. Start fighting or I'll find someone who can.

>the 2142 revive project

god if had known it was going to get shutdown

>>714680121
I'm still mad at the retards behind it not realizing that all EA asked for was for them to stop using the battlelog branding.

>>714663423
based taste anon.. played on it a lot.

>>714663512
holy based

>>714679939
They're probably cheating. Cheating is rampant in BF games except BF2

>>714666625
Almost feels like a complete overreaction to 2042 because the maps are small, lane-heavy with a large percentage of the map area being not traversable, very close quarters and the longest sightlines being like 40m (and ironically being near the uncaps so you can easily spawn camp the other team)
If there are large-scale maps in BF6 I wouldn't know, the 3 they're showing off so far feels very much like "cod devs if they were told to design what they think is a battlefield map"

>playing strike at karkland at the internet cafe with the boys circa 2006
>two of them are now dead
>the owner of the cyber cafe is now dead and the building has turned into a laundromat
>my 20 year high school reunion is next year
>mfw
Getting old sucks bros...

>>714679939
Im in but it seems that playbf2 dosent have 2f server which is shame but at least they apparently dont allow servers that fake player numbers kinda

>instead of using bf2hub download this sketchy russian client
no thanks dude

>>714684691
sure thing

>>714686427
Also you can install bf2hub over the installation