If Epic is so "pro consumer", why are they on this list of companies lobbying against Stop Killing Games?

Gaben said he thinks Ross is right, so Tim Sweeney must think the opposite. I'm not joking, that's how Epic has run as a business for years now.

>>714663082 (OP)
Who thinks Epic is pro consumer?

>>714663281
Tim Sweeney

How does Steam keep winning? Is it this easy bros? Just don't be greedy when it actually matters?

>>714663082 (OP)
What in the world ever made you think epic was pro consumer in the slightest bit? Don't tell me you took the very obvious paid chinkoid shilling at face value

>>714663281
Indians

>>714663340
>do nothing
>win
when everyone around you is a retard you can do the bare minimum and look like a genius.
t. the only white guy in my IT department

>>714663353
Of course I believed the company that has tried buying its customers loyalty with free games. Why would such a company ever lie to me the consumer? Anyways, I was just taking the opportunity to gloat about the hypocrisy at play here and how Steam is nowhere to be found on this list.

>>714663340
the bar is set so hilariously low thanks to the fucking money grubbing megajew limbo champions at the likes of epic, blizzard, and ea that even when valve is at their worst they still appear to be saint like in comparison
all valve ever has to do is not do the absolute worst things that they think up

>>714663441
lol
Fair enough
I particularly like that Netflix is on the list

>>714663082 (OP)
>pro consumer
They are not. They never claimed to be. Tencent Timmy always, from day1, said he's trying to give DEVELOPERS a better deal than Steam and customers will go where the games are.

>>714663082 (OP)
>list of companies lobbying against Stop Killing Games
Source? I want to have comfort in never buying from these companies.

>>714663082 (OP)
no company is "pro consumer"
not even steam, they are just less anti-consumer than these other fucks

>>714663643
The most ass backwards strategy of all time. Just go all in on developers, trying to present as an alternative to Steam when they offer nothing actually alternative to Steam is beyond retarded.

>>714663082 (OP)
Because if developers go back to ACTUALLY TRYING, they'll break out the finest mental gymnastics (on behalf of the shareholders), to attempt to convince consumers that actually trying will result in games going up EVEN MORE, which anyone with a brain would see as unsustainable if smoothbrained consoomers got the bill in full, up front and finally realize how badly they've been getting fucked for the last 15 years or so

>>714663771
Tim should have just supported GOG if he actually was pro consumer and against Steam. Really he just showed how envious he was of Gabe.

Just checked the nordic games assosciation membership (ANGI)
it's literally just the same (non-european) companies that already represent themselves in video games europe.
except for nordisk film who own avalanche (just cause series)
So beware, they are counting themselves twice to make them seem bigger!!!

>>714663082 (OP)
>Epic
>pro consumer

>>714663082 (OP)
I never thought about it, how the fuck would Roblox handle a shutdown?

>>714663849
The game would be dead. Just like all the other MMOs without community servers.

>>714663849
Roblox is like gmod but with more DRM. You just strip out the DRM.

>>714663771
The issue is that Steams massive userbase easily makes up for their 30% cut. EGS takes like a 5%-15% cut depending on the success of the game but their users don't buy games. They spend some money on fortnite but nothing else.

EGS really thought they could buy a userbase with free games and better deals for developers but the store itself and the client are so dogshit that nobody wants to migrate. Valve is 100% laser focused on their platform but all the other companies that are running platforms as well(EA, Epic, Ubisoft, CDPR) treat their platforms as a side gig.

>>714664023
What about all the games that are hosted on their servers that would become lost media?

>>714664062
Think about all the gmod/CS surf maps and custom game modes that also became lost media once the hosters stopped hosting

Here is a slightly higher res of OP image if anybody wants it. I can't find the original but this is less fried

>>714664160
The only ones I am slightly afraid of is Microsoft and Embracer, but with the arguments they are pushing forward then it's not that bad.

>>714664194
>Warner Bros. rep is the chair of the anti-consumer board
Every time.

>>714663340
Having a working client that includes a bunch of neat features that are actually useful also helps
I wish they would just universally let you choose a game version instead of autupdating shit

>>714664235
Why is Warner Bros so hateful?

>>714664154
I didn't play gmod but I played custom stuff in CS1.6, and the maps would be downloaded to your hard drive when joining them, so you'd de facto have a copy.
As far as I know this doesn't happen with Roblox?

>>714664257
>I wish they would just universally let you choose a game version instead of autupdating shit
GOG somewhat does this though not enough. With Steam it ends up being a dev case by case basis.

>>714664160
>companies that are heavily invested in live service games don't like the idea of eventually handing them over to their players

>>714664259
You know why

https://www.videogameseurope.eu/about/our-membership/

Here is the site that has those companies and a 4k screenshot if anybody wants it to share it

>>714664345
Ok this is actually hilarious.
It can't get more abstract than this right?

>>714664160
why is netflix on here lmao

>>714664438

>>714664356
I wish each and everyone of these companies a DDOS to their servers if they kill this movement.

>>714664296
The map would be downloaded but not the server rules or scripting. The host was responsible for that. Like how having the WoW game cd is useless without the server data.

>>714664451
They publish games. Also it's basically every HDMI Forum Jew here. They all support and want HDCP/Proton aka DRM.

>>714664356
>look at the CEOs of "polish" association
>even in their "supported" list there's not a single polish gamedev

>>714664339
online multiplayer isn't even part of that retarded killing games thing.
it's only single player games

>>714664542
Nigga, you dumb.

>>714664524
>HDCP
I wish death on whoever came up with this bullshit.

>>714664524
Pluton*

>>714664542
Do you know what a live service game is?

>>714663082 (OP)
Epic is pro-Epic and screw everyone else and that includes their customers

>faceit
nigga? are they retarded, your league only works because valve provided local servers

Steam has no dog in this race but fags won't pass up any chance to suck gaben's dick.

>>714663082 (OP)
No company ever wants to be regulated more. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be.

No company is the 'good guy".

>>714664791
>>714664542
Fuck, i'm feeling generous. I'm just going to tell you.

Any game with an ongoing development and/or an online component(pvp or co-op) and/or is offering any kind of in-app purchases is a live service game.

You know what isn't a live service game? A singleplayer game that is content complete, fully offline and not still being patched or updated.

>>714664832
I was trying to understand this too. I guess their investment into tournaments for games other than cs is large enough for them to justify getting involved since they probably can't grow their matchmaking service much outside of cs. or something.

>>714663082 (OP)
>ESL
>FACEIT
>GROUP
what games do they make?

>>714663082 (OP)
Your stupid cult are delusional retards but who ever said that about Epic? Sweeny himself openly said he believed publishers would decide the winner of the launcher wars rather than customers

>>714665572
>We will get full completed singleplayer games again
God bless this initiative.

>>714666032
Epigs think that Epic cares about them because they give away old ass games every week.