Thread 714667738

is it still shit or have they salvaged something with updates? I haven't played it, just saw the general disappointment when it was released

Can I finally play it in full detail on a 4070 in 60hz

>>714667738 (OP)
They'd have to rework the entire game for it not to be bad.

>rough gem of a game gets a sequel
>it's still a rough gem
>"wtf, why is this gem rough??"

Performance is fixed now.

>>714668182
They already did that. Dragons Dogma 1 was shit. Then we waited for them to make a not shit version with 2, and it took a decade. It came out, it was EVEN MORE shit.
There will never be a good Dragons Dogma.

>>714667738 (OP)
Dlc next week, I'm certain. My uncle is capcom.

>>714668394
>Dragons Dogma 1 was shit
My only complaint about DD1 was that there wasn't more of it along with static enemy spawns and a bad healing/item use system.
I have way more complaints about DD2 which feels actually incomplete as opposed to DD1's rough around the edges.

>>714668316
Lying is bad.

>>714667738 (OP)
Still shit, performance is still iffy in towns and people still appear out of thin air. As far as content goes it's still the exact same thing it was at release.

>>714667738 (OP)
I liked it and wanted more

>>714667738 (OP)
the updates didn't change jack shit op, the game is still an unfinished unbalanced mess that stops being fun after the first 5 hours.

>>714669636
Just like the first DD before Dark Arisen. DD2 needs its own expansion that isn't just unfinished shit like the base game.

>>714667738 (OP)
it's impossible to save it without remake it on another engine, the REtarded engine just cursed this and MHwilds.
On top of that this game has no content, half of the enemies are just repeted versions of themselves, and also just copies of enemies from the first game.

I would compare this game to deadly premonition, first game is a obscure rough gem, and the devs decided to make a sequel to something that they themselves didn't quite make it, it was just luck, the originals sucked(mostly) but the combined of everything made it unique, and devs can't just replicate luck.

>>714669636
trickster is a fucking slap in the face for anyone expecting more vocations

>>714668262
>expecting a sequel to be better and improve on the original's shortcommings is apparently "too much" and "unrealistic"

>>714668262
Why would the sequel still be rough? They had years and more money than the first time.

>>714669784
>before Dark Arisen
Always the best cope

Anyone played with this guys mods? Might make it worth a replay at some point.
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/Nickesponja/mods?gameId=6234

>>714669992
You can polish it but the lack of new enemies just kills it

Just in case any anons don't know, Dragon's Dogma Online is a better game than DD1 or 2, and it has free private servers. One of the best games I ever played.

>>714669992
>character presets for arisen and pawn look like two underaged brothers wearing revealing clothing
so are all ddfags unironical pedofags or something?

My complaints are the shallow rpg mechanics, the lack of romance options, and the limited pawn personalities. The combat and exploration were decent, not as many choices for classes sucked, but I think everything would be improved if the rpg elements were actually fleshed out. I have I think like 60-100 hours and never cared to finish the story. I thought it was funny they made the orphan girl obsessed with you in whiterun. Classic jap fantasy world

>>714670196
Can I grab and toss people around or does it feel like an mmo?

Public apology for making a shit sequel, bringing all content from the first, and unfucking the character creator and armor system. Then I may consider buying it on sale for 5$

>>714670339
The combat is Dragon's Dogma. But they added more mechanics, so it's better than the 2 console games. Just try it and see, you'll agree.

Wasn't there a way to make a new game but keep your pawns likes?

Ah, Dragon's Dogma II, my beloved.
One of the most disappointing and frustrating, yet also most inspiring games I have ever played. It is so disappointing because its untapped potential is nigh infinite. This is a 6.5/10 game that eclipses some 10/10 games. I'm getting into game dev because of Dragon's Dogma, and I will not stop until I have made a fantasy 3d beat em up with martial arms.

>>714670370
can I grab small enemies?

>>714670418
I think you can, but you can't throw them iirc. You can enter a stance that your friend or pawn can press a button for you to vault them into the air, and they can grab onto a large monster from that. Stuff like that.

>>714670485
I'm not talking about big enemies. I'm talking about tossing around small enemies, pawns and environmental stuff like exploding barrels.
Also from what I see, can I turn off damage numbers?

>>714670676
if you stagger a small enemy you can pick it up and throw it wherever your stamina permits.
you can always pick up your pawns and throw them.
yes, there's explosive barrels to throw around and you need them to break through some weak walls.

>be itsuno
>try to get Capcom to make your dream game
>they gave you a small budget and not enough time
>comes out half finished and rough
>years later
>DMC5 is a hit
>Capcom gives you another chance
>gives you more money and time
>instead of sticking to your original vision, decide to add more shit and end up with a half finished and rough game

>>714670676
I genuinely can't remember if you can throw small enemies. I don't think so. You can throw barrels. It might be class specific. Don't get hung up on that though. Damage numbers can't be toggled, I don't think. But all of that is so superficial when you play it and feel the potential of multiplayer DD combat.

>>714670863
>can't throw enemies, can't carry enemies, can't cc enemies, can't knock enemies into other enemies, but it's totally dragon's dogma bro

>>714670960
Where did you get all that? You can CC the fuck out of enemies. And you can do 99% of DD stuff. Throwing enemies would be what annoying shitters do while you fight the boss so it's good it's not in.

>>714670863
>Don't get hung up on that though
I'm afraid I will. Multiplayer is cool but I don't care for multiplayer games outside of fighting games or monster hunter.
From what I see it's not exactly DD1. It feels way less "animated"

>>714671041
The combat is like Monster Hunter mixed with DMC, so your loss. But wait for the DD2 patch...I guess.

>>714671018
>"akshually, missing features from DD combat are a good thing, because in return you get to enjoy DD combat in multiplayer. what do you mean it's not DD combat if it lacks the features of DD combat?"

>>714671119
All good man, I told you that the best DD game is out there and you haven't played it, but I can't force you.

>>714671068
I don't care for DD2, no idea why you defaulted to that. I was just saying it feels more like an mmo than DD1 + multiplayer added.

>>714670676
>>714670418
is this the setup to a warwick davis copypasta

>>714671159
>I was just saying it feels more like an mmo than DD1 + multiplayer added.
Well I've played over 100 hours and that's wrong. It's Dragon's Dogma.

>>714671119
I havent played ddo but throwing small enemies was such a minor element of dd1

>>714671197
Even seeing footage it's clear it's very different.

>>714670853
he was talking about DDO, you dumbass

>>714671191
Ugh, I swear, trying to grab small enemies in Dragon's Dogma Online is a nightmare—and don't even get me started on how it's somehow always Warwick Davis's fault. These pint-sized goblins and nimble imps are skittering around like caffeinated squirrels, and every time I lunge to grab one, my character just flails in the air like a fool. I wouldn't be surprised if Warwick Davis himself motion-captured their movements—tiny, evasive, and maddeningly smug. It’s like the whole game is a Warwick Davis conspiracy to make sure I never land a grab. I’m starting to think the devs watched Willow, got inspired, and said, “Yeah, let’s make all the small enemies infuriatingly slippery, just like that guy!” Honestly, if I miss one more grab on a knee-high gremlin, I’m going to start blaming Warwick personally in the patch notes.

>>714671301
The mechanics of each class are expanded so you don't just press 2 buttons over and over. So the combat is a little better than the console games, yes. It's not that different at all though.

>>714671368
I don't think you get it. Enjoy DDO anon.

>>714667738 (OP)
no it's censored trash. they removed loli companions which 90% of the playerbase used in the original. it's why I'll never play it

>>714671434
Well one of us has played it. They probably get it more than the other person, right?

>>714671478
No. What you don't get is DD1. It ties in to why you find DDO's combat to be better too.

>>714671548
DD1 is one of my favorite games. I think I'm uniquely qualified to "get it." And I do get it. More than you know, obviously.

>>714667738 (OP)
The first playthrough is fine. Maybe a little light on the monster variety but good for 80ish hours. NG+ is where the game falls apart tho. No new gear, no new monsters, no new quests or literally anything. It's just a victory lap for your powered up character.

>>714671478
dont bother dude, hes one of these eternal dd1 fanboys that think its actually super dynamic and not miserably shallow
moves/actions wise ddo>dd1

>Hideaki Itsuno proves himself with DMCV, finally gets the huge budget and unlimited time to make exactly the game he wanted to make with the original Dragon's Dogma
>Think that even if we don't get the crazy shit like space and other countries it'll still be interesting
>Sequel comes out, the game is worse in every way and even less ambitious somehow
Oh yeah and I'll just say it, the Pawn system fucking sucks ass and Co-op might've been the only way to salvage this piece of shit, especially with shit like the Trickster Vocation being absolutely worthless without it.

>>714671595
>I think I'm uniquely qualified to "get it."
Oh I am certain you do. Especially if you say so.

>>714671685
Well, in a rare instance I can actually accept a concession.

>>714671359
Nice chatgpt but no human alive uses— instead of a comma

>>714671810
Anon couldn't come up with witty dialogue and be confident about it, so he used ChatGPT to whip it up. Sad. I used to be impressed by how funny people were here.

>>714671761
Every fighter gameplay video I'm watching right now is completely subpar to DD1 and makes the game seem like an mmo. Show me something cool instead of expecting me to take your word for it. I chose fighter because it's a vocation native to both games and very active in its approach.

>>714668394
>Dragons Dogma 1 was shit.
Go back to blast having.

>>714671670
>co-op fags STILL seething
B E A UTIFUL

>>714671810
Actually, on second thought, I doubt ChatGPT would talk about Warwick Davis in that context. It would spout some sensitivity shit.

>>714671810
I never claimed it wasn't AI. Just posted it for fun because the premise of the joke was interesting.

>>714671930
Fighter is really fun, but a very basic class. It has a lot of skills to use, but early on you mainly use a charge forward move, and a backstep/counter. Later you get a more powerful counter and I forget what else. Like I said, very basic.

Warrior is more fun, it's like Greatsword from Monster Hunter. Slow attacks and positioning yourself, and cracking the monsters head open when it's downed. I could go on and on, but you'll just say why it's bad so Idk why I bother.

>>714671949
>61%
The game fucking sucks

>>714671930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOHFFexN8FQ

What ISN'T Dragon's Dogma here?

>>714671951
>On second thought
Don't pretend to be me just because you don't know how to slip past chatgpt censors faggot

>>714672194
It could be 14% and I still would not give a single shit
I've had enough games that I liked turn to shit chasing mass appeal, people hating this one suits me just fine

>is it SHIT or NOT SHIT (which means 9/10)
why is /v/ like this?

>>714668262
>rough gem gets a sequel
>"Hell yeah, just what it needed to realize the vision!"
>it's somehow more rough in basically every single aspect other than core combat mechanics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zvsnA_7jak
This was ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ek1yQMIRmE
Orc enemies seem completely immune to getting knocked back or down and only stagger (Level 75 vs 35)
>>714672318
Seems exactly what people that played DD1 like retards would say it was. Mindless skill spam.

>>714672639
Yeah that all looks awesome and really fun to me. Maybe get your eyes checked.

>>714670861
given how it ended up as ue5 tech demo for mhw i wouldn't be shocked if he still got somehow sabotaged

>>714672429
>i don't care if a game mechanic is shit if a lot of people also think the game mechanic is shit

>>714672935
Is that not better? If you are alone in your opinion, more shit games will be made. If everyone hates it, more won't get made. Doesn't help DD2, but it stops more shit from existing.

>>714672935
Excellent reading ability, champ
Please feel free to keep seething for years to come though, I enjoy it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYFnyvI92o
This was a cool clip with lots of activity
>>714672771
It really wasn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpMuodBLQFA
Kind of ass too, especially the long stun thing with the sound effect the drake goes into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmqLspPMNs
This was ok.

>>714673173
The stuff you think is cool are the 8 man raids...the MMO content that wasn't in DD1. You're fucking trolling lol

>>714669636
that shit killed all my hype for the game

>>714673329
>No weapon master class
probably planned as a DLC patch you iron onto the shirt

>>714673247
I'm only focusing on what the player does and the enemies. You don't even understand the basis of my criticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QxTnM7XD9g
This felt like DD at its very core. Until you drop your boner when a fleeing enemy is invulnerable. It seems like the game can't escape common mmo-isms. Zero grappling or holding enemies so far too.

>>714670196
it's fun at first, yes, but gets stale after a while.
the fucking stamina bar for giant enemies is so retarded, it removes all the fun in fighting them.
they realized that and made it so the corrupted only have those spots, that grow out of their bodies, you have to destroy to weaken them.

>>714673580
Oh I actually forgot the coolest part. There is tech. For example, the Hunter has a backstep, and it can be used kind of like Reset from DD1. So you have other skills that take time to set up, but you can backstep to animation cancel, and it is vital for playing Hunter to it's maximum potential. So you are constantly managing your animations and positioning and choosing the right skill for the moment. It's like driving a manual race car.

>>714673580
Sure, enemies are invulnerable while leashing. It would make the game braindead if not. It IS an mmo, but the combat is DD. Is that not enough for you? The combat is better than DD1 and DD2 because they fleshed out every class. I haven't even talked about Alchemist. I mean, it's just such a good game.

>No new content
>Not even anything shown at Capcom
>Barely any mods
>Still has DENUVO
>Still has performance issues
It's joever

>>714671940
same placement of shit everywhere
dmc combat but worse
somehow more generic then dragon age
no story
stupid fast travel

>>714673909
>It IS an mmo, but the combat is DD. Is that not enough for you?
No obviously because mmo design takes a huge chunk out of the combat. No idea how you can just handwave enemies being invulnerable so easily as a combat complaint. Changing where you fight is combat 101. You seem to have completely different standards. And I'm not even insulting DDO, but just coming out and saying it's combat is better than the other games is a bit much.
>I haven't even talked about Alchemist
Seemed cool until I saw that perfectly blocking an attack makes you literally invulnerable for 10 whole seconds. This kind of balancing is only possible because the game is an mmo and not as pure of an action game.

>>714673730
That's good to hear at least.

>>714667738 (OP)
The first half is great, the second half is very obviously an unfinished hack job band-aid to rush it out the door. Which stings all the more after Itsuno went on record stating that DD2 is feature complete and "the game he wanted to make", however, the first game suffers similarly so the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Capcom have pretty much refused to acknowledge the game even exists since it released and have enshrined their reputation as the gayest fucking faggots ever.
Dragon's Dogma 1 and 2 are among my favourite games but I still mourn what could have been.