Thread 714670851

Someone really needs to steal this game's concept and make an actual finished game out of it

>>714670851 (OP)
The problem is metagaming, the goal of the game is incompatible with it. You are meant to take things slowly, gather clues, trail people for hours and just keep watch. When all you are doing is closing cases in ten minutes because you were overly efficient the game loses its charm.

>randomly generated slop
ditch this dogshit, hire a writer and give it an actual story with major cases to solve and smaller side ones

>>714670851 (OP)
Every time I come back I get bored after finishing one case. It's not rewarding and the world is just super boring

>>714671258
The new version can use AI to create more flexible and creative scenarios and NPCs

>>714671629
i don't give a shit rajeesh

>>714671629
Tell me more

>>714671629
@grok is this tru

What's with the brick graphics? Is it a minecraft mod?

>>714672136
It's an artistic decision that I hate

I actually enjoyed Shadows of Doubt despite its flaws. I still play it from time to time when my internet goes out during a storm.

>>714672218
Would a minecraft mod run better?

>>714671258
This is not that kind of game.

>>714673107
yes that's part of why it's bad

>>714671258
I don't play games that hire writers

games was fun despite its flaws but I think I just really liked making and organizing those case files

>>714671258
The point is that it could be anyone in the city. Writing out detailed stories would be nice the first time but the game is made with the intention to play over and over.
It shows a good proof of concept and does the detective stuff like looking for fingerprints, finding paper trails and even retracing footsteps far better than other games.

Actually outside of this and LA Noir, is there any other recommended detective games?

>>714670851 (OP)
While you're at it also get rid of the "non binary" option in the character creator. Like seriously you are not special.

>>714675123
Backbone demo.
But never play the actual game because the writer was a massive fraud who can't write.

>>714671258
>ditch this dogshit football game it should be hockey

>>714676171
>remove an option from a creator
You control the buttons that you press, anon.

So I'm guessing only the first couple hours of this game are fun. Thing is, are those couple hours worth 15 bucks?

>>714676171
Then don't use it.
It's a lite Cyberpunk setting which is synonymous with doing stuff to your body that under current views should make people uncomfortable.
It seems to be working on you.

>>714676562
The inclusion of the button is a fault with the game, not interacting with it doesn't make it go away.

>>714670851 (OP)
There is no finished game to be made here
You've hit the limit of procedural gameplay
Its not engaging as anyone with a functioning brain will map out the most optimal solutions and stick with them making all the variations feel the same.

>>714676171
>open character creator
>male, female, other
>click male
if a 4rd option makes you seethe, I imagine it made you question it and got insecure

>>714671258
Not saying this game did it well, but the entire point of this game was that you have an entire small city, full of NPCs, any of which could get murk'd by any one other, leaving behind organic clues that you have to unravel to find the culprit. It's one of the very few games where random generation is an actual integral part of the core philosophy of the game, not just a dumb marketing gimmick. Sadly, as clear from the Anons reactions in this thread, they didn't quite manage to make it good.

>>714676685
The game is as finished as it can be. It's pretty much just an emergent gameplay/emergent narrative simulator. You're supposed to make your own story, your own approach, your own gameplay. Playing it efficiently or optimally is missing the point and will leave you disappointed.

>>714670851 (OP)
its roguelike trash, it can never be completed, it's a feature not a bug

>>714676605
You are retarded. How is it a fault to include something in a role playing detective game, that people identify as in real life? I might as well say because I'm blonde and blue eyed, that it's a mistake to offer red hair options. You're just a massive faggot who wants games to only pander to you specifically, and you're so fucking retarded that you started seeing games who do not pander to your extremely specific desires as "flawed". You're the video game equivalent of a fucking Karen walking into a tobacco shop, screeching at randoms that they shouldn't be buying tobacco because it makes her cough. Nobody gives a fuck about your personal sensitivies nigger, not pandering to you is not a flaw in the game. I hope the next game you play removes whatever option you wanted to pick just out of spite.

>>714676791
>The game is as finished as it can be
>Playing it efficiently or optimally is missing the point and will leave you disappointed
Then it isn't finished.
If engaging with a game's mechanics makes it worse then it needs a severe redesign.

Judging by the homofaggots defending this game in this thread I imagine its not worth playing.

what he should have done is a way to handcraft a scenario or a way to save a generated scenario that happens to be interesting and well made, and a platform to share curated scenarios with others

thats how roguelikeslop should be handled, as a toolbox for people who dont mind wasting time through hundreds of garbage runs, but also a curated platform for people who dont want to deal with the trash and tedium
make some kind of "official" campaign with ten good cases, and you can then make it episodic with new cases every month that the community voted on or whatever, etc

but indie devs are morons

>>714676574
I got my time out of it. I got it when it was first available and played it on and off with each update.
I know there's more updates planned so I'll check it again at the end of the year.

>>714677025
Please read my post again and do try to understand it this time. Thank you.

>>714671258
>hire a writer and give it an actual story
that's not how you make games you massive retard. go watch some garbage netflix series if that's what you need.

>>714677120
>roguelikeslop
getting the genre wrong and sticking slop on the end only harms your bad argument.

>>714676985
>all that text I won't read
If your game has a troon or troon-adjacent option, it's shit.

>>714677212
instead of making posts here go fix your game cocksucking faggot

>>714677303
I accept your concession.

>>714677303
I don't think a detective game is for you if you take a cyberpunk game and complain that the people are chopping bits off themselves

>>714676519
football is pretty shit so your analogy works better than you think

>>714676985
hello r*ddit

>>714677462
>trannies so desperate they're now referring to their oozing axe wounds as "cyberpunk"

I missed the window to try the demo so I bought the game when it released and refunded it within 20 minutes. Game ran like absolute dogshit as soon as I left my apartment room, and whenever I check back in to see if they improved the performance at all it seems like they haven't.

>>714677267
>that's not how you make games you massive retard
yeah instead you should have a procedurally generated clusterfuck that breaks and gives you unsolvable cases on a regular basis, let us know when your game releases so we can laugh at that next

>>714670851 (OP)
>one of the best detective games to date
>devs decide to add shitty pointless card games and the ability to smoke rather than add meaningful content
>been out for years and it still runs like ass even on high end PCs
It hurts to see them squander the game like they did

>>714677658
Correct me if I'm wrong because I refunded the game very quickly, but the devs also went the Subnautica route where you can't meaningfully defend yourself with a gun as well right?

>>714677530
>detective game in oppressive polluted city
>body augments that physically change you
>huge disparity between right and poor with the former living in the highest part of the city and homeless swarming the streets
>corporations blaring out adverts 24/7
>not cyberpunk

>>714675123
>Actually outside of this and LA Noir, is there any other recommended detective games?
Outer Wilds
Golden Idol series
Obra Dinn
Painscreek Killings
Scene Investigators
Roottrees Are Dead
Type Help
Unheard
Wolf Peak
Deadly Premonition
Blade Runner

>>714677530
>t. didn't play the game

>>714677808
>captain, I investigated the crime scene and... it was actually a suicide
>damn... again?
>this city... what the hell is going on... some kind of drug? underground death cult?
>I got the DA breathing down my neck with all these nutjobs offing themselves like this...
>they make up 41% of all the deaths in this city... it's an epidemic...

>>714677718
Yeah you can't use guns without mods. I imagine it's so you can't just go around killing NPCs and effectively make your world barren since they don't respawn or get replaced but idk.

>>714677846
Thank you. I already have a few of those but painscreek and now scene investigators have my interest.

Looking up Type Help, its getting a steam remake https://store.steampowered.com/app/3641000/The_Incident_at_Galley_House/

>>714678510
Sure, but it wouldn't be that hard to implement a self-defense parameter as well as make ammo really scarce or something. Something reliable to fall back on when getting attacked is all I wanted, aside from the game to actually run well.

procedural is fine but 4-5 possible scenarios isnt enough by a magnitude of 10 or more. just a tech demo sandbox at this point.

>>714678683
It's made by the Roottrees team but unlike Roottrees where the remake is just an improved version with different art and more qol, I'd recommend playing the Type Help original instead of waiting for that remake. The original is just a command-line interface/text adventure where a lot of the appeal comes from making sense of mysterious text fragments, text being your only information and way of interaction, but they're remaking it in the style of a visual novel and from the trailer it's spoonfeeding more than the original and looks less unique as a concept.

>>714671258
But LA Noir looked boring.

>>714676171
What those trannies that are replied to you forgot to mention is that non-binary shit applies to the NPCs. You can be searching for shoe prints of size 8 heels, looking for a woman, and then it turns out your suspect is trans and is actually a man that wears heels. That and the overly homosexual relations in a supposed dystopian universe.

Fingerprints are too OP in this game
>go to crime scene
>find fingerprint that doesn't belong to resident
>grab victim's address book
>go to each address and scan their door for prints until you get a match
>???
>profit

>>714678772
The game is not designed for the NPCs to be killable, even NPCs killing NPCs will eventually break the game. If a shop NPC is killed, you can no longer use that shop. You would think more NPCs would slowly get replaced, but they don't.

Unfortunately, the whole game falls apart if you play for a few hours. You can rest to speed up time, the problem is this doesn't effect NPCs so their schedules get broken. Their schedules get broken and then they get stuck in a loop. The developer had something good and decided to give up instead of ironing things out.