Thread 714672897

>DXVK 2.7
>Due to a growing number of compatibility issues with the AMD Windows driver in general, supporting it is no longer a priority.

AMD-bros? Our fine wine drivers?!

>>714672897 (OP)
Windows AMD drivers were literally always shit.

>>714672897 (OP)
>Windows
Not my problemo

>>714672897 (OP)
Wasnt vulkan amds whole thing?

>>714672897 (OP)
>fine wine
https://youtu.be/aBFNIiNOh8A

>Windows users
lol
>on Polaris and Vega GPUs
lol

>>714673103
it's just fan made windows emulator for linux

>>714672897 (OP)
>Polaris and Vega
nothing happened

>>714673103
Vulkan was modeled after AMD's Catalyst.

>>714672897 (OP)
polaris and vega came out 8 years ago

>>714673256
It's DXVK on windows i.e. fan made windows emulator for windows.

>>714673269
>>714673310
Those two paragraphs arent connected.

the absolute state of AMD windows drivers was what pushed me to finally move to linux a few years back

>>714673034
>>714673170
Refers to this.

>>714673254
>Windows users using dxvk
you laugh but that's actually a thing that's recommended for plenty of old games, turns out directx sucks balls and vulkan is better.

>>714672897 (OP)
>Windows

>>714673503
>AMD drivers are shit tier upon release
Yes, I'm aware.

>>714673507
I used it while i was on my old pc. Would get a boost in fps, sometimes even as high as 15-20

I cleaned out my C drive in order to partition it for a mint dual boot. But then I stopped myself and though, what the fuck am I actually gonna do on linux? Watch youtube videos that I already do on 10 and my phone? Have a slightly harder time pirating shit? Be unable to install zBrush or Maya or Substance Painter for work?

I kinda want to give it a chance but I also don't know why I want to go through the hassle. It's an incredibly odd feeling.

>>714672897 (OP)
this only affects Polaris and Vega?

Some of you retards need to work on your reading comprehension.

>>714674136
no, learn to read.

>>714672897 (OP)
>DXVK
>These changes will affect Windows users
I am very confused right now

>>714674310
DXVK is just a DLL that reimplements DirectX calls in Vulkan. It's actually more native to Windows than Linux.

>>714674019
Just take out an empty separate drive, install mint on that and use UEFI to switch between them. That way you don't have to sacrifice anything and can go back if you feel like it.

>>714673507
reads like amd is simply dogshit at handling dx9 games

dxvk has always been a meme. the performance hit is never worth it and you lose the ability to use MSAA, SGSSAA if you are a nvidia chad. amd doesn't have a way to force msaa at all in old games lmao!

>>714673929
well dxvk supporting windows native users is getting discontinued.
if you want to keep using it you'll have to join the linux side. we have the trannies, indians and nerds.

>>714674942
?

>>714675065
don't worry about it, it won't work xD

>>714675207
worked for me on Chaos Theory

>>714674752
Does Linux work well on HDD's? Any benchmarks I can read up on to see the difference between that and windows on an SSD?

>>714675664
Considering 90% of the time Linux is used to boot old ass hardware I'd say so.

You probably run a greater risk of Linux not supporting recent hardware than the reverse.

>>714675664
Significantly better than Windows at least.

>>714676187
Even with Intel CPU and NVidia GPU?

>>714674942
>reads like amd is simply dogshit at handling dx9 games
the main problem is that the amd drivers on windows and linux do not work the same, so they both have different issues and interact with games differently.
they could probably keep supporting it, but the amount of people running dxvk in native windows is likely a minority and they just don't want to keep troubleshooting windows only issues.

>>714676284
What does that have to do with running on an HDD? If you mean in general, Intel CPUs work fine, Nvidia too, although there is currently a performance bug in DX12 games.

>>714676740
Yeah, I mean in general. Usually you hear about AMD on Linux.

>>714676903
AMD drivers are open-source, usually get some features sooner, and is just better integrated with the ecosystem. But Nvidia is totally fine.

>>714674019
If you don't believe Linux can do anything useful then why were you supposedly about to install it? Your story sounds fake and gay.

>>714672897 (OP)
>Polaris and Vega
Oh fuck off.

>>714674310
Windows and DirectX are so good that many users prefer jumping through a hoops and using DXVK for better performance.

>>714673507
Yeah but if you're using Windows, just buy new hardware.

>>714677829
the normgroids only do that because they follow retarded techtubers who are like gods in their eyes. dxvk meme is worse than bloating your game up with ue5 engine ini tweaks and that is already something nobody should ever do.
>the translation layer overhead
one might think dxvk is coded by total jeets. dx9 to dxvk brings a game's performance down by 85%

>>714678182
>one might think dxvk is coded by total jeets. dx9 to dxvk brings a game's performance down by 85%
Only for Ameridarks like you.

>>714674310
Some old DX8/9/10 and even 11 titles run better through DXVK

>>714673507
These GPUs are from 7 and 9 years ago bro, I don't think anybody's stressing, especially when you can just use an older version.

>>714675664
Linux on HDD has the exact same drawbacks as that would on Windows, your boot time, application start up times and load times are slow. You can however use BTRFS and that may increase performance with compression enabled somewhat. Provided you can avoid power going out unexpectedly. BTRFS is kind of dangerous with random power cuts.

>>714672897 (OP)
>>714673034
>>714673103
They mean pre RDNA drivers aka RX 580 and Vega 64.

>>714674310
Yakuza 6 runs better via DXVK.

>>714678464
i'd expect the drawbacks to hit harder on windows because of all the bloat.
we're at a point where most games perform better on linux, if it weren't for those pesky multiplayer games that actively block linux we'd have a field day.

>>714678246
>i cant spot the difference because i got 60 fps before and 60 fps after
illiterate retard

>>714678464
>Linux on HDD has the exact same drawbacks as that would on Windows
EXT4 handles fragmentation much better than NTFS

>>714678652
Who are you quoting?

>>714678464
>BTRFS
Two years ago I tried this meme as on Windows through WSL2.
I got a new archival HDD and wanted to try something more interesting than NTFS and Veracrypt.
Just the idea of on-the-fly compression was fresh to me.
It fine, but ultimately it was cumbersome to run WLS2, mount the drive, unlock it and connect to it from Windows every time.
But tinkering like this is fun.

>>714678823
Windows also supports transparent compression. But you had to use 3rd party tools to make it good, last I checked several years ago.

>>714678823
>btrfs
the ability to backup all your data in a second is ridiculously powerful. you can forget updates that break your install.
it's the default filesystem on a bunch of linux distribution these days.

>>714674979
Got a new pc, cant say i care anymore. Dont need black magic to get decent fps.

>>714672897 (OP)
oh that's fine I'm going to switch to steamOS eventually anyway

>>714679001
>the ability to backup all your data in a second is ridiculously powerful. you can forget updates that break your install.
Can't you do this with logic volumes?

>>714679312
Then you will have to keep on waiting forever because SteamOS will never get a general release.

>>714679583
>steam won't make their own distro
of course they will, having this much control over your userbase is a corporation's wet dream.

>>714679583
arch linux is a bleeding edge distro. by design steamos will never get a final release because its always evolving with the latest fixes.

>>714672897 (OP)
DXVK is for Linux.
You guys are always saying Linux can't run games, so you don't deserve to use the technology that helps run games on Linux.

>>714679781
Don't be so pedantic.

>>714679830
dxvk only exists because a coomer wanted to run nier automata on linux.

>>714679781
By general release I mean a release for every use case, not just handhelds.
>>714679741
And having millions of retards submitting support request?

>>714679914
Yes. Very based, I know. The key words are "on Linux" thoughever.

>>714679947
>And having millions of retards submitting support request?
they already have that though, and the way they deal with that is pretty simple, they ignore you 99% of the time, they block you .9% of the time, and .1% of the time they'll look into the issue if it's already been reported by one of them.

>>714679884
>>714679947
if you run arch its because you run latest hardware architecture wise. latest hardware means beta software.

>>714679914
dxvk exists because directx11 (non-explicit api) is hot garbage. if you're a modder you have no way to debug shit. this is why dxvk props a lot for old game mods.

>>714679312
>SteamOS
It will never happen because of nvidia, maybe in 5 to 10 years when NOVA and NVK have matured enough.
Otherwise Valve will have to put a huge disclaimer on the SteamOS page, something like:
>Only AMD and Intel GPUs are supported, do not install if you have a NVIDIA GPU.

>>714672897 (OP)
Ayoo DXVK is Fire!!!

>>714672897 (OP)
DXVK is the only way I could get Dragon's Dogma to run properly

>>714680485
>adreno
Stop eating pagpag and get yourself a PC

>>714680485
>stretched
I don't know how people who game like this can sleep at night. Absolute psychopaths.

>>714680485
>20 fps
this is peak gothic 3 experience

>>714680402
Believe in AMD powered Steam Machine (for real this time)

>>714672897 (OP)
People use windows?

>>714680613
what issues u had with it? for me i only disliked the jagged edges so i used gedosato which has lanczos downscale and makes 8K supersampled image look really great at native monitor res compared to using virtual resolution tech like dsr

>>714679741
Valve couldn't afford to without expanding substantially. The reason SteamOS works is because it's supported in a very limited capacity on limited hardware. It's not designed to be general purpose OS, it doesn't install packages that aren't needed nor does it allow user to install system packages without doing completely unsupported stuff.

You should see how many people brick Arch Linux because that's not locked down like SteamOS.

>>714680613
What you on about? I played it perfectly fine on my RX580.

>>714681031
t. Arch user who had to chroot into his system to fix a bad GPU driver
Yeah, SteamOS users do not need nor want that kind of power

>>714674019
Virtual Machines exist if you just want to try out distros. Dual-boot is just going to be more involved for little reason.

>>714674019
Windows will kill your linux dualboot eventually anyway. Better to install it on another drive.

The only good AMD drivers are on linux. I'd advise against buying amjeet GPUs in general though

>>714681956
I'm on my second AMD GPU now and had no issues with them. Used to have Nvidia cards before that and had no issues with them as well.
It literally makes no difference.

>>714681186
I've never had to chroot into my system despite bricking my novideo driver more than once before. I wonder if it's because I have my IGP which works even when the novideo driver bricks.

>>714681770
reinstalling grub with boot-repair on a live cd takes about 2 minutes.

>>714681031
This is exactly why Valve made everything readonly by default on SteamOS. It’s idiot-proofing. The moment you let people sudo pacman -Syu blindly or start tinkering with mesa git builds just to squeak out 2 extra FPS in Elden Ring, you’ve got a support nightmare. They’re not designing for enthusiasts who know their way around chroots and Timeshift backups, they’re targeting Steam Deck normies who think "Wayland" is a new Marvel character.

>>714674019
I don't really see the point of dual booting or other half arsed shit either.
I built a new computer and installed only Linux from the start. It ain't the same as Windows on my old computer but fuck if I care, I didn't want to go through debloating Windows again nor did I want to use my old install which was on a shitty SATA SSD.

>>714675427
It only works on DX8-9 games iirc.

>>714681956
>ring.timeouts in your path
nothing personal, kid

>>714675664
>Does Linux work well on HDD's?
Amazingly well compared to Windows. You see, Linux allows modern file system types such as EXT4 and BTRFS. You don't really need to know the details, just that they actually work. Windows, on the other hand, uses a retarded dogshit system called NTFS. Its been broken in severe ways since the 90's and it still is to this day due to backward compatibility restraints. The most obvious flaw is fragmenting. You see, HDDs do not allow random access, so it only reads data sequentially. A sane person would quickly realize that blocks that make up a file should also be stored sequentially. But NTFS just tries to store them in the first empty blocks it sees. And if there is another file in the way, then it splits the file up and stores them in several places across the disk. And once fragmenting starts, it tends to cause more. This is why Windows machines on HDDs slow to a crawl after a year or so without running a special program to defragment the disk periodically.

>>714673256
retard

>>714672897 (OP)
Crashes on GTAIV
>5800x3d
>rtx5080

>>714672897 (OP)
>Windows
Ah, I see the problem. You're using a PooBotNet.

>>714672897 (OP)
Is there any game that runs better on that shit?

>>714684575
Yakuza 6 and I'm willing bet every DX9 game runs better on DXVK than natively on Windows.

>>714684575
Couple of Assassin Creed games
MMOs like WoW and PSO2
Any drawcall bottlenecked old game (Fallout New Vegas, Oblivion, Crysis, etc)

>>714684575
Grand Theft Auto 4 basically needs it

>>714675664
I have ubuntu on am old laptop 2.5 hdd that only does like 36/mbs and it runs like shit.