Thread 714677959

>bbbu but think of the poor multimillion dollar companies
they should’ve thought of me before shutting down their 5/10 game with no other way to play it.

>>714677959 (OP)
this but unironically

>>714677959 (OP)
I believe you will
But you'll never own a copy of the online interactions I had back then, so that is not my problem

>>714678078
WoW would've been better as a single player RPG with optional multiplayer anyways. In principle, it's not too dissimilar to diablo. Just a different camera angle and being able to bind multiple abilities instead of just 2.

>>714678294
>WoW would've been better as a single player RPG with optional multiplayer anyways
it have been that way since wotlk

>>714678294
Idk about WoW but i know with 100% certainty that the star wars tortanic should be a fucking single player game from the get go

>>714678294
Thankfully, the history you wish for didn't end up being reality

>>714678294
>WoW would've been better as a single player RPG with optional multiplayer anyways
good thing that already exist then? up to wotlk at anyrate

>>714678078
let me introduce you to this thing called
FRIENDS

>>714678294
Have I got a game for you!

I also love e-celebs, I'm watching Utsuro now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeuBc1pXp4

>>714678595
I lost all mine of those

>>714677959 (OP)
Not the intention and not gonna happen
Private servers however

imagine fucking thinking that blizzard will give You WoW source code
LOL the delusion of niggers has reached sub 80 IQ level
is this African board?

>>714678767
>change the game with mod tools to reduce every boss' hp to be 10% of the original
and now the game is single player, sure was hard

>>714677959 (OP)
Future legislation/regulation will not apply to any current titles.

>>714679037
Not the point. You can't make the scam argument with wow because the payment method was always that of a subscription model. It was never a game you could own, and was always up-front about that.
Would it still be possible to change? Yes.
Would that be nice? Yes.
But it's not the historical fork in the road the concept of ownership will live or die by.

>>714679469
wow has a box price nigga, and expensions each have a box price, you can absolutely claim that you bought the game

>>714679406
LOL that is literally just kicking down the ladder after you, every live service game that exists now will just reign supreme as new titles are kneecapped with regulations, and hell I can already think of a workaround, let's say mihoyo wants to make another gacha game, why not just put it as side content into genshin? it's not a new game now so no new regulations apply

>>714679985
You couldn't program a calculator

>>714677959 (OP)
>I'll own my copy of WoW
But you already can do that with AzerothCore. You can even get bots to play with you.

>>714679037
You said offline, that’s not the same as single player

>It slowed down
Its owari...

BASED

>>714680752
they have a tft clone in genshin now, and they had an atelier clone earlier, it also has an in game tcg, they can add anything they want, if you already have a running live service game then you can just redirect any new game to be additional content in your old game, it only fucks new companies that are yet to release a live service game

>>714679036
Wow private servers already exist my dude
You don’t need the source code

>>714679703
Oh. I didn't know that. Carry on.

>>714683596
wow has a box price, and a monthly sub, and a cash shop for cosmetics, and a cash shop for in game currency, it's the most jewish shit on the market

>>714677959 (OP)
Why does he have a ring of hair around the base of his neck? It's too low to be beard hair and too high to be chest hair

>>714679985
>very live service game that exists now will just reign supreme
Not relevant to the imitative. It's to stop games form dying, not "reigning". It's like the exact opposite.

>>714678632
https://tebasaki10238.fanbox.cc/posts/9730497

>>714683707
Does the "box" say "playable for one month unless you keep paying" or is that just dropped on you a month after purchase?

>>714683797
the point of the initiative is that the current live service games can have a monopoly on the market and stop any competition from forming? nothing could go wrong with that

>>714683748
Well you have to draw your beard line somewhere if you don't wanna shave your entire body every time

>>714683934
the base edition doesn't even include a 30 days subscription, it just allows you to install the game and then it'll hit you with "you have 0 days! buy a subscription!", you can buy the box with a subscription as a set

>>714683954
You're allowed to form, and live, and reign, you're just not allowed to die. And if that was the "monopoly" old games will have, they couldn't use it beat out the competition. It could only be used to die. i.e the exact opposite.

>>714684197
you're only trying to look at the short term, mihoyo could just keep genshin running for 30 years using it as a platform for all their new games that they just now add into it as side content, then shut the whole thing down and everything is gone, the regulations not applying to them since genshin has been running before they were created, and in the meanwhile no one could compete with genshin because they're saddled with dealing extra regulations that genshin doesn't deal with, it'll just mean that genshin is king for 30 years unopposed then the entire thing disappears and by then there'll be some new unique sets of technology that the regulation is too obsolete to regulate

More on that later

If there are actual gamers (not paid shills and not developers LARPing as consumers) who are unironically opposed to SKG because "waaah the publishers will have to spend more money to comply with a hypothetical regulation" then it's the most pathetic thing imaginable. I almost don't even believe you people exist, but if you do, holy fuck, stop being such unbelievably embarrassing cucks.
There is a natural and inherent conflict of interest between you as a consumer and the corporations making the products you buy, because they would benefit from higher prices which would cost you more whereas you would benefit from better products which would cost them more. You can be sure that the corporations are looking out for their interests exclusively, and that it's only through whatever agency you have left as a consumer that you don't get completely ripped off 100% of the time. Your ability to say "no thanks" and walk away, and the implicit threat that you will do so, is the only reason you get anything of value from any exchange of money for goods. If you buy something of value, then it's because that's the absolute minimum value which, in the seller's estimation, wouldn't cause the seller to lose customers. They're still maximizing their own profit and nothing else. They are not your friends. So it is perfectly okay to advocate for things that might not be optimal for some fucking video game publishing company. There is nothing wrong with this. You don't need to defend the billion-dollar corporation. They would step on you like a bug and piss on your flattened bug corpse if you didn't have a little bug wallet full of bug money.

>>714677959 (OP)
>corpo jeet is fuming
also, you can play SINGLE PLAYER TBC/WOTLK/CLASSIC, completly offline with server EMULATOR and several plugins and shitton of bots
completly free, google azerothcore
corporate fucks gonna tell you that this is IMPOSSIBLE yet someone made a fucking EMULATOR of a server to have SINGLE PLAYER WOW

>>714678078
If I want to play video games with other people, I’ll play them with my actual friends and not random jerkoffs online

Why are SKG shills so completely obsessed with ecelebs? Do they even play games?

>>714686601
also to add
>age of reckoning warhammer fantasy hosted by community decades after game closure
>city of heroes hosted by community got even dev help from ncsoft
>there's mu online servers since forever, together with other MMO, even dead ones
>at it's height, Lineage 2 private servers had more players than original, absurdly grindy L2 retail
>tera online got community server up after game was shut down
>a shitton of other, logn dead mmo's resurrected by passionate community
yeach, but corporate fucks and ferret fuckers gonna tell you how this is not possible and hwo you're killing entire studios

He's right.

>>714677959 (OP)
You will own nothing
Kill games. Behead games. Roundhouse kick a game into the concrete. Crucify filthy games.

>"B-BUT PLAYING MMOS IS IMPOSSIBLE ALONE"
erm...

>>714687487
every mmo is just a single player rpg but forced co op every now and then, and most of the time it's just a detriment to the game experience
>go kill 10 bears or some shit
>okay...
>20 other spergs running around the place killing every bear
>ughhh ... wow amazing multiplayer experience

>>714680850
>>714686601
>>714687487
Jason "Former Blizzard Developer" Hall told me it's impossible to do this.. You can't rebalance MMOs to be singleplayer games.

>>714687749
>hey you doing quest?
>right click portrait, invite
WoW so hard

So, just for the curious that will throw MMOs here as an argument against SKG.
Ragnarok Online (2002), Linage 2 (2003) and WoW (2004) all give you a perfectly functional software with your copy of the game.
I´m not too familiar with L2, but, both RO and WoW allow you to connect to any pirate server (that is in the same version than your client) editing a simple text file.
So, yeah. The three game count with people willing to keep playing it, and in some cases, RO and WoW at least, some of the private servers are in much better health than the official ones.

>>714688096
Jason is a stupid nigger who "created" a form of always-online DRM for his shitty unfinished gamemaker asset flip undertale knockoff which is just a steam-api call that's easily spoofed using notepad. He's also a gay furry that's killed several animals raping them to death while on horse viagra, so I don't think anything he says has any actual merit to it.

>>714678294
Same thing has been going on since WoTLK/Cata. Legion and WoD straight up felt like singleplayer game.
>>714680850
Is possible to do that with Cata and MoP nowadays? I remember only running WoTLK with bots, was fun for a while.

>>714677959 (OP)
wow already has a bunch of pservers

>>714688186
>invite rejected
>你妈死了
WOW epic multiplayer experience!!!

>>714688347
I'm not too familiar with Lineage 2 situation as well, but far as I'm aware at some point dev builds were leaked and people were making custom shards ever since. Pretty sure you have to have same files as server expects you to in order to connect (they store all the data about items, mobs, etc, they're just giant tables or something like that).
Maybe, maybe not, I've played it a couple of times here and there in the past. Either way, L2 private servers are alive and well even to this day.

>>714678618
Genuinely one of my favorite games despite the obvious flaws. Something about it tickled my pickle.

>>714688619
unfortunately I don't think there are any good Cata or MoP emulators

>>714688619
AzerothCore is only good for Wotlk.

>>714680850
Did they implement Wrathgate for AzerothCore yet?

>get my own client and server
>bots gy spawncamp me
this is NOT the fantasy i signed up for...

>>714690203
>turns on GM
>becomes invincible
>spawns 50 diremaul ogres

>>714690203
Skill issue.

>>714690564
cheating

>>714690589
fuck you

>>714689272
devs kept "leaking" game files every goddamn xpac since interlude, nonstop
like, we got gracia final week after official release via this completly not controlled leaks
still it required some dev works to make completly stable and nice l2 server since files weren't complete and shitty emus were called l2j

>>714677959 (OP)
>I'll own my copy of WoW (offline, burned on Blu-ray), and I'll be happy
That is literally not the point being put over the table you dense cunt.

I still have my disc of BF2142, can I play it online? No I fucking can't.
Until the community developed a way to do so themselves.
SKG is literally about that disc I have and you have that is USELESS because they discontinued the service that is required to keep playing it.
All they had to do was let people make private servers, have a server browser, P2P connections all of which have been in similar games like Cod4/MW2, Counterstrike for ages.
It's such a small thing to ask of them so that the products we are buying are not invalidated when they decide to either stop bothering, go bankrupt or move on to their next game.
So people can keep playing the game they bought if they so choose.

>>714677959 (OP)
Thank you for service, Redditor.

>>714677959 (OP)
Yes, every game should let you play it offline.

Imagine you're a gachafag and your game goes out of service.

>>714678632
Utsuro's stream is over, I'm watching Luna now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd5F9QEjAAI

>>714677959 (OP)
Is solo WoW even beatable?

the only thing I can think of that affected me concerning this was Payday 3, holy shit what a flaming turd that launch was. and if the studio's servers do die, then it'll be the only Payday game that will essentially not function.