Thread 714701605

should you play fighting games?

>>714701605 (OP)
Yes but only the old ones unless you're a tourneyfag

>>714701605 (OP)
probably not, but I do it anyway for some reason

yes
singleplayer

>>714702213
kys

Only if you play the ones that still have a player base or have a good single player mode

>>714701605 (OP)
I guess

>>714702323
make me fatty

>>714701605 (OP)
Yes. Specifically +R.

Is Izanami or Rachel harder to learn in Blazblue?

>>714701605 (OP)
Only if you want to.
Like I do not understand people's motivations for picking up a fighting game to be something they want to unwind with and play ultra casually.

Why is Mortal Kombat never brought up in these threads

>>714706403
because it's not very good

>>714706403
It’s kinda its own thing

>>714706062
Probably Rachel. The main hurdle for learning either of them is making use of their unique mechanics. With Izanami you mainly need to learn how to float cancel while Rachel has to learn to use wind properly. Neither of them are that hard when it comes to execution but they're both very unorthodox. I'd say wind is harder to learn just because of how freeform it is as an offensive, defensive and neutral tool that requires you to know how to adjust to situations on the fly.

With the existence of Mugen, name a reason why one should play anything else ever.
But before you answer note that I already left the thread and don't really care.

>>714701605 (OP)
No, you waste hundreds of hours training just to compete against trannies. Not worth it at all.

>>714706403
Because MK is ugly and shallow as a puddle. Whenever someone says that “X is the worst fighting game!” they aren’t even thinking about MK as a fighting game when they say that, that’s how bad it is.

>>714706764
Just play the game weirdo

>>714706403
Who the FUCK plays MK?

how do you get better at doing launchers with DPs?
Like if I went from 3C>623A?
I keep either being slow as fuck or it comes out as a fire ball

>>714706403
Same reason Smash or its cousins aren't brought up in these threads

>>714706951
How is it shallow? as far as I can tell, it has as much going on as a street fighter game.

>>714707638
A better analogy would be Brawlhalla, which no platform fighter poster even brings up because like Mortal Kombat the gameplay is terrible and the audience is completely divorced from the rest of the scene. For MK it's all normies. For Brawlhalla it's all underage South Americans.

fuck it I'ma join a discord to learn KOF 02 and XIII
I've never joined a discord server so we'll see how goes

>>714706403
Fuck if I know, MK is awesome. Not sure why the fighting game community has a hate boner against it

>>714707890
Before I answer I need to know how many fighters you have played. That will influence how much I feel the need to explain or not

>>714707496
if it's a game with wacky leniency like SF you can do 323 to get DP.
otherwise just practice. 3623 is ez.

If anyone wants to play Granblue, Strive or BBCF in NA we can, just host

>>714706062
it would be hard for you to find any soul willing to play with your bitch ass

>>714708213
It’s boring and ugly? Even Granblue has about ten times more sauce than any MK

Does anyone play P4AU?

>>714708569
I'll play some CF.

>>714708569
>>714708697
steam://joinlobby/586140/109775241301240376/76561199197204677

>>714708569
I have to go to church tommorow I can't sorry

>>714701605 (OP)
Yeah, at least enough to know if you like the genre. The only hard part of this is trying not to immediately get filtered hard at the first shallow incline and claim the genre is broken fundamental.

I love fighting games and admit they're not for everyone, but the intense desire of casuals to scrub it out at first touch about throws or combos or something else ultra surface level that's not a real problem and is a mental ghost. A literal spook

>>714701605 (OP)
This just made me think, does Fighterz run better on Switch 2? I never played that much because of the performance

>>714708634
no but I've always wanted to get into it since the 360 days

>>714701605 (OP)
objectively you should not. it's a huge timesink without a matching amount of enjoyment.
MAYBE it's ok if you live in japan and get 30ms games at all times of day but even then still probably not worth.

>>714708828
I'll come lose a bit

>>714708598
>boring and ugly

It isn’t boring or ugly at al. Have you seen none of the stages in MK1/MK11? Many of them are beautiful.

>granblue

Quit comparing MK to anime shit

>>714709403
There's 3 people in it, no worries

>>714709435
A bunch of the characters feel dull. Ghostface was the only redeeming aspect of the last one.

>>714709590
Play MKX then. It’s the complete opposite of dull gameplay

>>714709435
>stages
MK has the worst animations in the genre and while there are a few decent looking male characters the women are universally hideous.
It’s boring because dial a combo is the antithesis of player expression. A character’s potential is already constrained by predetermined routes.
This is to say nothing of modern MK usually having busted system mechanics, stiff movement, and laughable DLC characters too. The only thing it has going for it are highly produced AAA cutscenes and lots of single player content.

>>714709687
MKX managed to be mid. It’s still hideous as shit though

>>714709435
>Quit comparing MK to anime shit
>Granblue
>anime shit
MKfags are so ignorant lmao

>>714709470
what if i worry

>>714710049
MKfags are like Smashfags, they don't tend to play anything else.

>>714701605 (OP)
I'm playing Darkstalkers. It's okay.

>>714708634
Not regularly anymore but I do have it

>>714709846

>women are universally hideous
TIL that Jade, Kitana, MKX Tanya, and Jacqui Briggs are all hideous… tell me you’ve never played an MK game without telling me you’ve never played an MK game.

>worst animations in the genre

In what way are they the worst?

>dial a combo is the antithesis of character expression

This is complete bullshit. Nothing is “predetermined” in MK and there is a lot of combo variety across every game. MKX is hailed for having wonderful character expression via combos. The dialup system doesn’t limit the player in any way

>stiff movement

They’re Mortal Kombat games, what do you expect? If it isn’t your thing that’s fine, but a majority of the player base has literally no issue with the movement

>laughable DLC characters

Are you fucking joking? Alien, Jason, Terminator, the Joker, Ghostface, Kratos, Freddy Kreuger…fucking Predator?? Are laughable?


>the only thing it has going for it

Hype tournaments
Memorable characters and guests
Unique endings for every character
Fun and engaging gameplay
A legacy going back to 1992
Great customization, particularly in 11

It’s hilarious seeing people in a thread about fighting games shit on one of the most important and influential fighting game series’ in history.

>>714710827
>Kitana
Not even bothering to read the rest of your post.

>>714710049
It literally looks like generic anime shit. There are a fuck ton of fighting games that look exactly like it. Can’t say the same about MK

>>714710950
You’re either blind or have completely shit taste in women if that’s what you call hideous.

>>714710957
I never said anything about how the game looks, I’m talking about the gameplay you troglodyte. MK gameplay isn’t even as good as the easiest real fighting game. That’s how bad it is.
Go dial up a combo and try not to send any hatemail when your opponent blocks lmao

>>714711046
…you really think Kitana looks good on the left?

>>714710827
MKfags will do anything to defend their game but play it

>>714711081
MK is a real fighting game. Saying “real” fighting game is the most pretentious bullshit to come out of this community. If you’re fighting people, it’s a “real” fighting game.

>>714710957
MK would be improved by looking at least as good as generic anime shit

>>714711170
Yes, because I have eyes. Also notice how they posted 1 character out of the MANY other women in the series. Probably just someone upset that MK women don’t dress like it’s Dead or Alive.!

>>714710827
the majority of the playerbase has no issue with the movement because they are not even aware of it it, or really any other aspects of the gameplay.
The average MK player mashes randomly through a single player mode a couple of times, watches all the fatalities once, probably half of them on youtube, and then never touches it again
>hype tournaments
the entire competitive scene is just NRS handing money to sonicfox

I wish I had a Guilty Gear close slash button.

>>714711498
tfw your close slash is -1

>>714701605 (OP)
you shouldn't play games at all, period.
You're a grown ass man, get a job, a wife and use the rest of your free time to raise your children.
You fucking failure.

>>714710827
>TIL that Jade, Kitana, MKX Tanya, and Jacqui Briggs are all hideous
They are. Hideous manjaws the lot of them. I guess the silver lining is that Street Fighter finally joined them in uggo women.
>In what way are they the worst?
It’d take a very long time to explain but I highly encourage you to watch Sugar Punch’s breakdown of MKX, Injustice 2, and MK11 and why they animate so poorly. To give the most basic summary though they don’t really use key frames so everything looks like a slap fight and many of the moves are just terrible form for what are supposed to be martial arts masters.
>MKX is hailed for having wonderful character expression via combos.
By MK standards sure! Everyone else is laughing at you though
>They’re Mortal Kombat games, what do you expect?
I don’t mean “slow” movement. I mean stiff movement. I don’t care that MKfags love eating slop every character moves like shit in those games.
>Alien, Jason, Terminator, the Joker, Ghostface, Kratos, Freddy Kreuger…fucking Predator?? Are laughable?
Guest characters are nearly universally trash and cheapens the setting and aesthetics of your game. It was novel the first few times but it’s gotten really old, fast.
>Hype tournaments
No entrants, no viewers. More people are gonna play and watch Under Night In-Birth and City of the Wolves than MK at Evo lmao
>Memorable characters and guests
Scorpion and Johnny Cage and Sub-Zero and uhhhhhh…
>Unique endings for every character
Most fighting game arcade modes have this
>Fun and engaging gameplay
lol
>A legacy going back to 1992
Who fucking cares dork?

>>714711673
...and post on 4chan

>>714708828
i COULD join...
but i wont

>>714706403
Because MK's forte was always the gore never the actual gameplay which is the most important thing in a fighting game.

>>714711239
It’s a “real “ fighting game as much as Drake is a “real” rapper.
They live in their own little world where blocking is cheating and combos are cringe. Why should I take them or their game seriously at all?

>>714711673
Nah that sounds lame as hell

>>714711348
You are so gay lmao

>>714711673
I hate kids why would I have one

>>714711880
>Drake seethe out of nowhere
done

>>714712037
>MKtards are Drake fans
Shit writes itself lmao

>>714706403
because FGCucks love breaking games with framedata and MK doesn't really allow that

Post your 3 favorite fighting games you always come back to

>Third Strike
>UMK3
>KoF13

>>714711239
You fight people in Fortnite but it’s not a fighter. There are guns in Strive but it’s not a shooter.

>>714709232
I know you're an antisocial anonposter, but offline gatherings are a thing pretty much everywhere.

>>714712202
Is Xrd a shooter

>>714706403
gore fetish is a different bunch.

>>714712123
>breaking games with framedata
MKtards not beating the scrub allegations, blocking is cheating, etc…

>this what KI is to MS now
KIbros... how do we recover from this?

At least I got the double Zanga

>>714710127
I play Hunter on Fightcade fairly often. Just got my ass beaten by a Pyron twice, I really need to figure out what o do in that matchup.

>>714712154
are we ever getting another good sprite-based fighting game. I'm so tired of SF's ugly ass 3D and whatever the fuck the new KoF is

>>714712394
That was funny as shit, I was laughing my ass off there.

>>714701605 (OP)
FighterZ is unplayable in 2025, the online is filled with smurfs

>>714712154
>MK Unchained
>GG Xrd
>Darkstalkers 3

>>714712154
>Third Strike
>UMvC3
>Alpha 3
I play other games, but I started with Capcom and it's what I always return to for better and for worse.

Play Chun-Li.

https://www.twitch.tv/loltyler1
SF6 modern only tournament
Punk is in it

>>714712202
Bro no way you’re bringing Fortnite into this lmao. You know what I mean

>>714706403
Mk9 is the last good mk. It's a shame how expensive keys are now for pc.

>>714712503
>MK Unchained

Do you MK haters hate Injustice as well?

>>714712806
I don't give a fuck about capeshit.

>>714712614
Is there a prize pool? If there is he just wanted the easy money.

>>714712806
sajam told us that injustice le bad so yes

>>714712443
probably not.
the age old excuse of "le sprites are so expensive and time consuming" is still perpetuated
although I don't understand how when indie games pump out sprite games every day, some even good.
it's probably the perception that sprites are an indicator of a low quality product.

I may as well be hanging myself if I dare to go in the air against Azrael.
jB just invalidates my existence

>>714701605 (OP)
Modern fighting games? Sure, but I think the real passion both in development/ gameplay and playerbase peaked between the ps1 and ps2 gens

>>714712872
$10k prize pool

>>714712780
It's a really underrated game. I also play Ultimate Mortal Kombat Deception. It's a hack that doubles the playable roster, and adds a bunch of new costumes for the characters. It's the go to way to play Deception nowadays.

>>714713139
He's Mr. All my Standing Buttons are Antiairs, but his j.B is also just a fucking insane button. He naturally needs it of course.

>>714712939
You are an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about. No I will not elaborate.

cool to see t1 infatuated with street fighter 6
he also gets so ass mad youd think it was pre-reformed tyler1
fighting games just bring that out in everyone

>>714713391
I'll play a privileged character one of these days.

>>714713393
you will never get a sprite game again
no I will not elaborate

>>714712939
i'm against AI slop in vidya but if it ever gets good enough to produce 90s/2000s quality sprites or something like Blasphemous, i'll support it

>>714713481
It feels good playing a character who doesn't suck ass, I won't lie. Going from a character who only has one aerial "cross-up" button in an extremely slow 20 frame air stall button to a character that can cross-up, air to air and air to ground with one 9 frame jumping normal is something else.

>>714701605 (OP)
Yes, but it takes time to know what kind of fighting game you like. I like when a game ends quickly.
My fav picks are Samurai Shodown, Soul Calibur 2, Vampire Savior, Super Street Fighter 2 and I WISH Bushido Blade or some sort of spiritual successor would come in modern era.

>>714712806
Injustice is even worse lol. I hate NRS games in general and I’m gonna laugh when all the coping DC fans pretend to be excited for Injustice 3 while everyone elf is playing Tokon.

>>714712123
>MK doesn't really allow that
So you never played a MK game right

>>714714084
Tokon? More like invincible

>>714714140
That shit looks ass bro

>>714706376
It's fun to learn a game's mechanics. It's satisfying when you get better. It's fun to learn specific characters. It's satisfying when a characters moves becomes second nature and you know what button to push in every situation. I became untouchable with rachel alucard in blazblue. My zoning was amazing. Getting to that level was barely more than casual play for about half a year, playing against other people as well as the computer. You might be thinking it takes hours of lab work. Many fail to get into fighting games because of this mind set imo. Spend all their time in training mode and then hop online and gets wooped a bunch and stop playing. If you find enjoyment in learning as you play fighting games are great. If you want to learn (theory) and then win right away, they might not be for you.

>>714709002
I can't not get annoyed at throw loops

>>714706640
Pfft rachel is not hard. I barely played the game (see post above) and no one could ever touch me. It takes a little bit getting used to since it's different like you say, but it ain't hard.

>>714712154
third trike
usf4
def jam fight for new york

>>714714261
Thing about fighting games is you have to probably spend most of your playtime in the lab to get substantially better. That’s why I always plateau and never get better, because I’m not willing nor do I have the patience to learn and study a fighting game

>>714712443
Nope.
KOFXIII was the end of an era, just like FFIX was to Square and 2D backgrounds.

>>714714480
You can always play games and characters that require minimal labbing, where the said labbing is just seeing how you buttons look and some basic BnBs and jump in the games

>>714712939
Indie devs don’t have as much of a profit maximization culture

>>714714135
You literally can't find the frames online for current patch MK11, they took frame data out from the game entirely and other FG developers should do it too

>>714714480
Can't you accept that there will always be people better than you and just enjoy the game even when you lose? Also it's not like everyone labs for days. At least not here in Europe, if the fights I get online are anything to go by. I barely bother learning one BnB combo with the character I'm learning and I still manage to win a bunch. These days it's mostly darkstalkers, sf2t, third strike or sf6 I'm playing. Only really third strike is an issue with people being too good at this point. Anyways. There's always a bigger fish. And sometimes it's fun to even experience the difference in skill on display. Also it's easier to learn how to stop people, if you keep getting stomped by the same thing.

>>714714428
Cool, join the lobby, if you're an untouchable Rachel then I want the MU experience.

>>714714901
>they took frame data out from the game entirely
nigger what?

>>714714480
labbing is what kills my urge to play fighting games so I'm avoiding it no matter what
I'm fine with slamming into the wall and not getting any better
I don't need to get better to justify playing a fighting game. other multiplayer games don't have this issue at all

>>714715067
I really wanna know what these guys think frame data is

>>714715193
I mean they *could* be talking about frame data display within the game itself, but it would still be a stupid ass point to make. Truly baffling stuff found in these fighting game threads on /v/.

Azrael anon, you can beat 6D setups with wake up growler if you want to neutral tech or roll forward to punish him depending on if you want phalanx stocks or not.

Azrael anon you can suck my cock

>>714715561
I don't even know what move you're talking about is the 6D, I quite literally never even played against these characters
The match counter is accurate for more than just my Azrael

>>714715793
6D is that giant drill he throws down on top of you that builds up his meter, growler is 214B

>>714715050
Bruh it was 10 years ago on a console I no longer own. I still have the game in the attic tho. I highly doubt I could do anything in blazblue these days. Otherwise I would actually consider stopping by and see how much I forgot. Just look up high level rachel play on YouTube and believe me when I say that it was like that. Why would I lie? I just searched myself to see if there was anything good high level stuff of hers. It's mostly just guides and people saying the same thing that she's one of the more advanced fighting game chars of all time. I don't agree to that. Imo just the general movement in a game like gundam versus is more advanced and harder to master than the wind and traps of rachel lol. Wind forward, wind backwards. Traps and projectiles. Not that hard. Anyone here play gundam versus games btw? High level play of that gets pretty wild advanced. It's all; you have to adapt to everything coming at you all the time. Barely any combos to remember. Very different. Very cool. Dang I should boot up that again.

>>714702213
somewhat based

>>714715462
>I mean they *could* be talking about frame data display
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRYgw9nJv9s
Nope, that dude is talking out of his ass. MK had frame data display since MKX

>>714715018
For sure, I accept my losses like a champ.i just don’t like losing to things that are easy to lab against, like a specific setup or a fast overhead that you can just practice blocking. It’s just frustrating knowing that I could be much better at a game if I put in the necessary hours but not really caring enough about the game itself to dedicate that much time

>its easier to learn how to stop people, if you keep getting stomped by the same thing

Very true, losing is definitely how one improves. But getting stomped by the same thing is a player issue itself that can easily be resolved

TOTSUGE-SHEEP

>>714715124
Well with other multiplayer games you get better with experience. Like you don’t need to “lab” in cod, just play and watch a lot of gameplay and you’ll inevitable improve: That isn’t necessarily the case in fighting games since there’s more variety with what you’re up against. It’s harder to learn how to fight against a whole roster of characters than it is to learn how to play against certain classes/weapon types

>>714715462
It’s just MKtards. They dont know anything

>>714716601
Go back to your containment general with your boring ass shit game

>>714715891
Ooooh, ok
Thanks mate

Is Strive worth getting back into?

>>714717390
It's fun I guess
It's getting a balance patch and a new character in a month, plus maybe the ranked rework

>>714717214
Seethe.

>>714716601
Fuck that 66H tho

>>714717390
I'm gonna wait until the ranked update to learn it because I fucking hate the lobbies

>>714717649
kek
That and 2U are the closest things this poor character has to "bullshit" in a game where the top tiers can do all kinds of dishonest shit.

>>714714261
This 100%. Every new fighting game I play im going straight to combo trials and training mode to find what character feels right for me.
Going straight into online play feels awful because you never learnt how to operate the character, so you not even playing the game imo

>>714715561
Man I thought that was a punish for me trying to do it after 236C, the wrong ender. It looks real damn tight against 214C

>>714706403
MK is what happens when people who think they get why people like fighting games make one but they have no soul. MK was always a spoof fighter just meant to be a meme edgy version of SF2. But for whatever reason it took off with normies. MK kept the naivety of the genre alive by creating games that you could mash your way through. During this time fighting games were getting more complex so people had a home to go to that also had its own edge. It wasn’t till MK9 that NRS wanted to make MK a legit fighter but by then its reputation was that of a meme fighter you play for shits. Beyond that NRS fighting games play like absolute dog shit and the aesthetics are trapped in this early 90’s interpretation of Asian kungfu mythology from the minds of white kids who jerked off to the Karate Kid. It’s also a game that takes the least amount of ideas from its Japanese peers.

>>714718041
And then photo-realism hit the asian influences on its female cast like a fucking runaway train.

>>714714480
>Thing about fighting games is you have to probably spend most of your playtime in the lab to get substantially better.
Just steal tech from dustloop and youtube matches.

>>714717390
Tower is still a dogshit system but it's getting axed
Balance is mostly decent, but soured by extremely obnoxious characters like Ramlethal or Potemkin, and it's been months since the last balance patch responsible for this
Game's fun

>>714709435
>muh graphic
MK isn’t beautiful because it has a zillion polygons everywhere nigga

>>714718041
It took off with normalfags because of the graphics, the fatalities (and the associated gore) and the """""lore""""", it also helped that it reached its commercial peak at a time when Capcom was losing steam with sales when they dropped SSF2 and SNK was struggling to keep its footing on the US, basically holing itself a niche in the industry and a healthy playerbase for many decades to come whilst everyone else had to abandon their projects or manipulate their shape beyond recognition. The only time things were bad for NRS was during the same period everything was in the shitter which was the mid 2000s with their most recent release being fucking DC vs Mortal Kombat, a game with a shit character roster, shit story mode and NO GORE FATALITIES.

Which fighting games have nice water

>>714701987
Saber hates burgers.

>>714717390
It's alright but has the same problem as Granblue where I'd rather be playing something with more to it

>>714718763
MARIO WiiU, pls

>>714706403
Because these are weeb threads

>>>>714710827
>tell me you’ve never played an MK game without telling me you’ve never played an MK game
The art direction in these games are shit because it’s only purpose to mocap real people and pump up the poly count. The women in MK1 are fucking ugly compared Tekken/SF/SC/GG/GB etc
>In what way are they the worst?
Yes the animations in MK are fucking dog shit. Don’t make me link the sugar punch video on this. If you don’t know what terms like follow through mean or the importance of key frames then you’re a slop enjoyer

>This is complete bullshit. Nothing is predetermined
You can’t change routes on the fly because the entire point of the dial system is inputting your actions like dialing on a telephone. In SF links don’t force you to do this.
>Are you fucking joking? Alien, Jason, Terminator, the Joker, Ghostface, Kratos, Freddy Kreuger…fucking Predator?? Are laughable?
These are all gay unless you’re 12 or retarded
>It’s hilarious seeing people in a thread about fighting games shit on one of the most important and influential fighting game series’ in history.
Anon sorry you like nigger slop but that’s a skill issue *shrug*

>>714718916
Killer Instinct gets talked about a bit in here though even it's originally a British series that drew its influence from comics and Hollywood rather than anime

>>714706403
Mortal Kombat hasn't been relevant since the early 2000s when gore still had some shock factor left. Now everyone can just come to sites like this one on their phones and watch a few webms of Mexicans and Arabs mutilating people, or Chinese people getting grounded up in some machinery. It's down there with Dead or Alive in terms of fighting games that are only interesting because of a gimmick (with DoA's gimmick being sexy girls with huge bouncy titties).

>>714711239
MK is a real fighting game in the sense that people can fight other people in the game. In terms of the qualities that make a good fighting game great it’s basically the equivalent of Weird Al parodying Riding Dirty. MK is literally a spoof.

Why do fighting games cause such seethe on a subreddit supposedly for hardcore gamers?

>>714719317
Tldr you‘re a weebtranny that needs 50 waifus in a fighting game to enjoy it. Hurry up and join the 41% already

>>714712806
Yes. They’re both cut from the same cloth.

>>714719842
>liking pretty girls in a game makes you "le tranny"
You people get progressively more retarded by the minute kek

>>714719747
>supposedly for hardcore gamers
/v/ is full of nintendo fanboys and they make the easiest and most simple games on the market so i‘m not sure where you got that nonsense from

>>714720007
>bing bing wahoo is easier than walk down hallway movie game

>>714719842
>Tldr you‘re a weebtranny that needs 50 waifus in a fighting game to enjoy it. Hurry up and join the 41% already
This is infinitely more respectable than playing a game that’s dominated by Sonic Fox.

>>714719353
No it doesn't lyin ass

>>714719747
Because fighting games take skill and the vast majority of the "hardcore gamers" here don't have that.

>>714720332
And guilty gear is dominated by men in wigs. Your point?

>>714720270
It actually is, yes

>>714720332
Sonic fox is an amazing fighting game player.

>>714720591
If the challenge of hallway walker is not getting bored maybe.

>>714720641
Shit like god of war and last of us on higher difficulties is way harder than any modern nintendo game. Don‘t even bother arguing

>pick up difficult character about over a week ago
>put in like a 2-3 hours each day into learning said character
>still don't feel ready for matches at all
i just think it's funny how I could have finished about 2 or 3 games by now from when I started

What fighting game characters feel like the beggining riff from bad to the bone

>>714720505
Such as?

Reminder that MvC won and we're getting a new game after Tokon.

>>714721117
spinal

>>714720967
>Woah pressing triangle when it appears on the screen is like so hard

>>714721242
how the fuck does uni2 have more players than mk1

>>714721242
>more people signed for samsho then xturd
Geg

>>714720447
Morrigan x Lilith is absurdly, impossibly hot, holy shit.

>>714721324
Turns out that high level players don't want to play a game that disencourages you from learning it.

>>714721242
>MvC game
>made by modern Capcom
No thanks.
Seeing Horror Engine versions of Street Fighter characters is bad enough, I don't want other Capcom characters or the X-men getting the same treatment.

>>714720332
Remember that period of time where sonic fox was being jerked off as some epic fighting game player and he had no placements in non NRS games?

>>714720607
Lmao he got publically humiliated when he tried a real fighting game (Strive)

>>714721526
sonicfox getting jerked off? real? pics?

>>714721324
Because competitive MK is a joke.

>>714721357
They were literally made for each other because Lilith is a piece of Morrigan's soul.

>>714721586
Knew you were a strivetroon lmao

>>714721647
Hot

>>714721660
>MKtroon trying to talk down to anyone

>>714721483
bro the RE engine is getting sunset for REX, the engine that's gonna be used for Okami 2. Capcom already knows from the Infinite blowback to not use a hideous artsyle in Mahvel and that was in the unreal engine. They are likely gonna do a comic book artsyle to contrast with Tokon and not get shit on again.

why does kofxv have such a big fucking file size

>>714721117
Testament

>>714721980
Mai's mais

>>714721761
Quite so.

>>714708828
GGs

>>714721242
how the fuck is COTW 3rd when nobody's playing it

>>714722252
GGs.

>>714712939
One big reason I see is that it's not really a transferable skill anymore with everything else a company like Capcom making being 3d unlike the arcade days.

>>714722280
>he fell for the steamcharts meme
HOLY KEK

>>714719747
>hardcore gamers
Anon the most popular game on /v/ right now is horse girl racing and while Vodka might be my wife that’s not exactly “hardcore”.

>>714721268
both games mostly phased out QTEs, and there are none during regular combat

>>714722280
2.5 fucking million dollars in reward

>>714709435
Granblue is like the only other block button fighter

>>714722280
Those evo numbers are from before the game released

>>714722280
>anon discovers people play games instead of being charttrannies

>>714722634
The charts say nobody is actually playing it bro

>>714722609
wait so people signed up before even knowing what the game plays like? lmao

>>714722771
... in denial and delusional land...

>>714722878
>>714722528

>>714721242
Why do AetherGAWDS keep winning?

>>714708828
Lobby closed, GGs all.

>>714723273
i want to learn how to do the cool azrael combos too azbro..

>>714701605 (OP)
fuck off we're empty

>>714722280
>>714722365
It’s because of the prize pool + signups began before the game even came out.
I expect a lot of disqualifications

>>714722771
>charttranny doubles down when reality doesn't suit her tranarrative

>>714723273
hee-hee ass combo

>>714722883
Dude the game fucking flopped so bad the SNK CEO had to resign.

>>714723273
GGs bros

>>714723387
With both weak points you route into 214D>j.C>j.C>66>j.2C>j.C(whiff)>236D>(5B>66)x6>ODC>236236D. Then you can clip it and tell all your friends that you have become love phantom.

>>714723273
What move is he doing at 0:04 where he juggles her several times?

>>714723650
Looks like 5B

>>714723650
Valiant charger at the proper height to spam 5B. When an upper weak point is applied and he lands it, he starts tracking to the opponent's position and can dash cancel all his moves until the time runs out. If you get the height just right, valiant will go underneath the opponent allowing you to continually cross underneath them to juggle them with 5B.

>>714723273
Azrael must be the funniest fightfag ever. There's no lore, he can just punch through dimensions.

>>714721586
And I bet if a strive player played MK he would beat their ass. What’s your point?

>>714724206
>What’s your point?
He didn't jump onto Strive for an event, he was actively trying to participate for a long time
The event where he got outed hard was an invitational where he slimed his way in where he practically ended up stealing a spot from an actual good player because of his name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7ifWsEvNtM
TNS is hosting BBCF right now

>>714721242
everyone should be flinging shit at the Tourney organizers for even including MK1 in main stage
game is not even being supported anymore

>>714724448
The devs are probably paying them gooood money

>>714724312
Okay, that’s cool. Doesn’t change the fact that he has still remained the king of Mortal Kombat games for a very long time and has won multiple tournaments across all of the mortal kombat games. Maybe he does suck at strive but that isn’t even his territory

>>714724394
>Carl on stream
TICK-TOCK CARLFAGS
Enjoy it while you still can.

>>714721526
But be beat Go1 in DBFZ year 1!

>>714724394
>Ban Relius Doc
kek

>>714723480
When half the players get DQ’d cause they don’t show up remember this post

>>714724448
If WB rolled up to my event with a nice sack of money to put NRS on main stage I’d take it

>>714724523
Yes he’s a big fish in a tiny pond. No other truly great player plays NRS games competitively. No one takes his farming of NRS trash seriously the same way no one really takes JWong’s farming of MvC2 seriously. People just like JWong more because he’s not an insufferable faggot about it

>>714724584
>>714724787
BBfags are NEVER going to recover from that. I don’t care how many people clowned on them BB is back to its Calamity Trigger reputation because of that.

>>714725253
>People just like JWong more because he’s not an insufferable faggot about it
Plus he actually did great in multiple games, he's not really a "big fish in a tiny pond"

>>714724523
Hasn't he been on fraudwatch for years in MK?

>>714725379
Sonicfox has had success in other games as well. Not to the extent of JWong but he is a great player. He’s just not nearly as great as his faggot fanbase and he himself likes to pretend.

>>714725369
It's funny because Strive is so deep in the gutter their ban attempts didn't even impact how it gets looked at

>>714725253
>no other truly great player plays NRS games competitively

Ninjakilla and Rewind are both great players that primarily play NRS games. Ninjakilla plays Tekken as well. So this is bullshit.

>>714725493
Success such as?

>>714724584
>>714724787
wtf they're banning Carl? The game's 10 years old why are they doing this shit now?

>>714725554
He won DBFZ at Evo 2018 and was an excellent Skullgirls player. He also had a few solid runs in UNI.

>>714725769
No some Strive hate obsessed pros tried to

>>714725496
>BBfag cope
lol
lmao even

>>714725769
A couple of fags on discord were butt blasted that they lost a major to a Carl player and tried to get him banned. Everyone else laughed at them for suggesting it.

>>714725779
>skullgirls
shit, then i'm highly successful cause I won a Simpsons Backyard Wrestling tournament (Flanders was banned).

>>714725812
>No some Strive hate obsessed pros tried to
Perfect time to remind everyone that the guy who made the petition also said this.

>>714725889
Nah I don't even hate Strive I just don't play it. I know they tried to ban Happy Chaos and Ramlethal COLORS, but nobody even cared because of how anyone who doesn't play Strive thinks of Strive.

>>714726027
Dude he beat GO1 in DBFZ. If you can beat GO1 in a fighting game you're a good player.

>>714726118
>I know they tried to ban Happy Chaos
They didnt
> Ramlethal COLORS
Someone,, as in a single person was seething about it but it never even got a doc or a real proposal

Why is it whenever someone claims a community tried to did something, it turns out to be like 2 twitter posts nobody took seriously?

>>714712154
>Darkstalkers 3
>Third Strike
>Melty Blood(Actress Again and Lumina)

>>714726151
It’s funny as fuck seeing people try to argue that sonic fox isn’t a great player when there’s so much evidence proving that he’s literally one of the best fighting game players living right now

>>714726151
I beat Go1 in Simpsons backyard wrestling.

>>714726190
>Someone,, as in a single person was seething about it but it never even got a doc or a real proposal
It was Umisho and a couple of other troons. Everyone laughed at them and moved on.

>>714726190
There were definitely twitter posts from bigger players about Happy Chaos at his strongest points. You might mean nobody actually banned him, and true but nobody banned Carl either. There were more asking for an HC ban than a Carl ban. Several strive players HATE these Ram colors and have asked for them to be banned, Umisho literally won Evo and was one of them. Again nobody banned these colors but nobody banned Carl either. You'll say it was just a random few pros and that's the same with Carl.

>>714726217
The Carl petition was signed by a bunch of top players and their clique went in full defense mode over it, which is why its noteworthy.

>>714726416
>>714726451
You niggers will really make shit up about things you can easily look up to try and one up people huh

>>714726487
Five and one thought it was a joke
>>714726520
I could 100% find a Happy Chaos ban post if I bothered to search on twitter. Umisho is private and probably deleted the post like half his shit he says and makes strive's community look even more retarded than it already is.

>>714726487
No no it's the exact same thing as some fuck making an angry twitter post bro

>>714714546
I'm sure they knew well themselves, too. It's my theory for why there's a cameo from nearly every SNK fighting IP in the stages of that game.

>>714726650
>n-no bro you dont get it umisho is just a girl let women have fun bro ignore other pros defending him and saying the same shit

>>714726451
Its the fact that the BBfags wrote up a whole document that they signed like dorks. Its easier to ignore twitter posts that get fired off into the ether, especially from someone like Umisho who was already disliked even before he lied about someone molesting his ugly ass. Meanwhile the Strive obsessed BBfags all tried to defend their actions.
That's why its being treated differently. The modern BB "pros" playing for Dominos gift cards are the biggest weenies in the FGC without question. There's a reason why Jiyuna thought it was a travesty.

I fucking with DNF Duel got the Rising treatment, it deserved better

>>714726735
You say "BBfags" when it's a few Blazblue pros but you make sure to not say "Strivers" when it's Umisho and his clique. I find that interesting. I only said I am amused that Strive literally could not get a worse reputation than it already has.

>>714726829
It needed more than just a bunch of trash system mechanics thrown at it anon. The core game is irrevocably fucked.

>>714726871
Because one's full of people actively participating in the community and the other is people who were shunned for a long time and straight up banned now

>>714726871
Its because the Umisho clique is only a fraction of Strivers. It has a much larger community overall and Umisho is fucking *despised* in large swathes of it.
Blazblue is tiny at this point and while I might be wrong I swear the only posts I see about it are from autists who have Strive living rent free while trying to ban Carl.

>>714726717
Dude no one likes Umisho except the other troons.

>>714726918
I disagree, I think it's mostly fine after all the patches it has gotten although some tweaks are still obviously required. I think there are plenty of really interesting and cool things going for the game too

>>714727108
>except the other troons
He was getting flak from even those for the last 8 months now
Imagine fucking up that much
Also can we stop talking about retarded community discussions and e-celeb stuff, I just wanna play fighting games here

>>714726829
Granblue sold way better, is the reason.

>>714727202
Not my fault the BBtards got all uppity when someone mentioned the Gift Card Cabal trying to ban Carl.

>>714726972
It was like 5 pros and one literally didn't think it was serious. Umisho's clique is larger than that and make up most of Strive's top level play. Umisho isn't even banned permanently and the rest of his clique remains. Out of any game that actually has players, including Blazblue, Strive by far has the biggest clown show of a community.
>>714727037
Blazblue still has one of the biggest playerbases in the genre and as I said umisho's clique, or similar types, is a bigger portion of the top strive players than the few that signed the Carl doc are of Blazblue's.
>>714727108
Say that word for word and see how long you'd last in a Strive discord. Some hate Umisho but they follow the same ideology including wanting to ban those Ram colors.

>>714727113
And I disagree with you. The combo game is lame as fuck. The mana system is ass. The shit movement paired with retarded specials makes playing the game frustrating. The cube system was fucking terrible and the one super being a shitty comeback mechanic was an awful idea.

I get why we shouldn't ban characters in old games but damn Carl is both un-fun and annoying at the same time. I wouldn't be sad if he was just erased from the game

It's weird seeing people take twitter fags seriously.

>>714727348
I feel the same way about most of the top tiers in general, if all of them were nerfed to be on par with the rest of the cast CF would be a much better game.

>>714727374
Seriously, this whole thing reads like fucking high school gossip.

>>714727342
>The combo game is lame as fuck
The moves are satisfying and all your options also working in combos is nice but I agree that it's way too relaxed, no combo is really difficult and they go on too long.
>The mana system is ass.
It needs some number tweaks but I think conversion keeps it from being truly ass.
>The shit movement paired with retarded specials makes playing the game frustrating.
I can stomach UNI so it's not too bad, they can reduce the conversionabilty you have over really long range stuff though.
>The cube system was fucking terrible and the one super being a shitty comeback mechanic was an awful idea
Yeah I'm not a fan about loadouts in fighting games but limiting the potential and usefulness of comeback mechanics is great, we don't need more

>>714727374
Strivetroon has to have SOMETHING to latch onto since he can't use the actual game to defend it

Please do not bully BBfags, they're going through a rough time with crap like this and the series being ruined with a shitty tag game and a gacha
I don't really play BB but I hope you guys make it through, I understand a game you like being in the gutter

>>714726918
So was vanilla Granblue, did you guys forget how that played
DNF Duel at least has hot bitches

>>714727839
Please don't respond to me again with your petty shit.

>>714727948
Same strivesis, same. I feel even worse for you.

>>714701605 (OP)
Yes

>>714728161
Did the Tekken Talk happen already, any links?

BBtag chads would NEVER propose to ban a character

>>714728087
Mmmmmm Nen Master thighs......

If we got a new anime fighter with GBVS character artwork I'd play it instead. The girls are all too damn hot.

>>714701605 (OP)
Yes but only DOA

>>714728128
Sorry sorry it was just funny

>>714728281
https://www.youtube.com/live/qEjAe0CHRf0
2 hrs

>>714728527
Oh shit, thanks anon

>>714701987
Wish I could find a place that sold burgers that fucking huge. Seems like it'd be amazing. Does anyone know any?

I'm excited for fuck your mom to be forced 50/50s and overly aggressive.

Bad form!

>>714728740
I still can't believe they really went with the decision to port him into T8
How could you ever think that was a good idea after T7

>>714724394
>>714724584
>>714724787
>>714725369
>>714725496
>>714726065
It really is ironic that despite Blazblue persisting, all the new "pro" players have come to be the exact thing oldhead GG fags at the time said they were: little bitches who couldn't hang with the real anime bullshit and soft. I guess in the end, real GG fans won the franchise war, all these years later. Because they were right.

>Puppet character
>Doesn't have to care about his puppet being hit
>Doesn't have to care about unsummoning and summoning his puppet
Nah fuck Carl for real

>Tekken 8 is 116 fucking gigs right now and is getting a new update soon
Jesus fucking christ.

gooning to chun-li's big boobs

>>714729334
Yeah all seriousness aside, is there legit ANY reason to play Relius over Carl? Is there a difference in playstyle or something? Sure you have to worry about Minerva's positioning, but Carl just seems objectively better because she has armor on some moves, if I recall.

>>714729295
I like both guilty gear and blazblue, I have to consider strive its own thing because of how far out it is. Like imagine the game you start with is STRIVE. And you have to find a way to defend it. Should have kept to seething while posting steamcharts sis, you'll never win talking about insufferable communities, Strive takes the medal for that.

>>714729581
You play Relius if you want to actually play a puppet character and you play Carl if you just want a broken top tier a monkey could pilot

congrats to the bully that beat me 4 times in a row with only one character
fucking bullshit

>>714729224
But people loved him. Did you not see how popular he was in tournaments?

>>714727309
>Umisho's clique is larger than that and make up most of Strive's top level play
You are such a retard lol

>>714729581
Relius and Carl are ultimately pretty different characters at their core. Ignis is easier to check that Nirvana and is an actual resource for Relius to manage but he arguably has better neutral control thanks to his good normals (with his 5B being arguably better than Jesus kick), j.D buttons, doll specials and 22X. Carl is still threatening in neutral but I'd argue that it's his weakest aspect. Offensively Carl is just straight up better, but Relius isn't anything to scoff at. He's still got access to a (much weaker) unblockable setup, long pressure strings, okay cross up tools and a checkmate super with duos bios that allows him to pressure freely for the whole duration. On defense, Relius has an actual metered reversal that leads to a full combo, a weaker version of dangerous defense than Carl and a strong CA. Relius is also just much easier to play at a base level thanks to Ignis almost always being with Relius when she's out meaning you don't have to babysit her like Nirvana.

>>714729625
>if you want a broken top tier a monkey could pilot
Oh, I see. And... how many Evos has been won by a Carl?

>>714727839
This all started because BBtards got their pussies cramping lmao

>>714730314
There are more than 4 people that got banned just from one umisho controversy. That already outdoes the Carl ban supporters. I can go through and list more if you want, like Tempest or Hotashi, but I seriously feel like I'm bullying you right now and I don't want to continue.

Can you fags fuck off?

>>714729736
got my shit kicked in again by another person

>>714729581
Relius was created to be an easier Carl. While Carl is stronger, Relius is pretty high tier too.

I think BB could've used SOME standardization
Like having your dedicated anti air move with head invul on the same input across all characters, having some basic BnB's that work across the cast like with UNI or MB have to get started
There are plenty of ways to make a game easier to get into without actually dumbing it down

>>714730336
Just sounds like they're the inverse of each other then. Carl does his best working with Minerva while Relius works about the same with himself or Ignis. Carl requires higher awareness, Relius is easier to handle. I guess it just comes down to results more than anything. Is Carl a significant presence in the BB scene?

>>714730341
Carl is not the only broken top tier in BB history

>>714701605 (OP)
Yeah fighting games are fun. My favorite multiplayer genre.

https://youtu.be/VFylEGx0AlM?si=2RKe3XP2VjLYw9-4

>>714730607
>I think BB could've used SOME standardization
Nigga, BB IS the standardization.

>>714717390
ask again in 30 days when we will see what the big patch entails

>>714730691
>Carl is not the only broken top tier in BB history
But you say he is now. How many Carls typically fill out top 8? Go on, tell me.

>>714730674
Carl has won EVO before but I wouldn't call him a significant presence.
I'm surprised the ban talk started over Carl. Blazblue players seemed like they hated Izanami way more.

How do I play +R May?

>>714730983
Mash buttons like a retard

>>714730753
They kept adding new things through the versions so I don't think CF fills that description.
It's way easier to jump in and start playing MBAACC than BBCF

>>714730983
Same way you do the Strive one, unironically

>>714730674
There's a couple of prominent Carl players but he does actually require a degree of skill to pilot properly, so he's not a top tier that you can just pick up and play. This has been the first major that a Carl has won in a while though.
>>714730607
I'd argue that 6X vs 2X antiairs function very differently from each other making it harder to standardize them by just slapping them all on the same button. 6X buttons usually have faster invuln but have to be on the correct side, while a 2X button can more easily deal with cross ups and typically have longer invuln because of their slower start up invuln. There's also characters that have both a 6X and 2X antiair like Mu or Valk.

>>714731078
I've never played Strive

>>714729613
Your pussy aching bro?

>Wesker is easy to play

That's beginner trap. You have to learn his dash and that's harder than a lot of the “harder” characters in the game. An easy character is Doom

>>714731228
Just do what
>>714731003
Said
All your normals are designed to be really fucking hard to contest and give massive rewards on CH and have absurd dizzy values where you'll just stun someone from two random stray hits sometimes

>>714730753
BB is simpler than old GG, even less standardized than GG was.

>>714701605 (OP)
Yes, long live 2 DOA

Will you play Tokon?

>>714731009
I love bb and i have had a hard time getting into mb, probably because theres no shoto

>>714728087
>So was vanilla Granblue
No it wasn't. It set out to be a simple game and that's what it was. Tossing a bunch of shit mechanics on top only ruined the core game.

>>714731175
>I'd argue that 6X vs 2X antiairs function very differently from each other making it harder to standardize them by just slapping them all on the same button.
Yeah but I don't know if that's a good argument considering it also applies to most games with standardized buttons for certain roles
Like going with the "same input anti airs" example specifically, the way Millia's 6P works is vastly different than Slayer's, and the same goes for Faust but it's still the same button. What they share other than the input is having a lot of hurtbox reduction on top of your body with a good disjoint so you can anti air, the same way BB's dedicated anti airs work.

>>714731673
Probably not.

>>714731673
only if a cute anon buys it for me

>>714731673
Yes, I am a MarvelGOD.

>>714731673
Probably yes

>>714731673
I'm not feeling the visuals and gameplay. Arc sissies' first miss in years.

>>714731781
Favorite Marvel character?

>>714731346
But you have to learn triangle jumping for Doom.

>>714731869
Batman

>>714731673
Only if Thor is in.

Tokon better release with Venom and Gambit or I'll be sorely disappointed

Why are Lars players like that

>>714730336
>Carl is still threatening in neutral but I'd argue that it's his weakest aspect.
Isn't he way faster than Relius, though?

>>714732107
>muggas
Nah.

>>714732473
M*tants might be faggots but Gambit gets a pass

>>714732359
He has a stepdash so his ground movement is pretty shit unless he's using vivace to get around, but that just opens himself up to be punished. He likes to use air movement to get around with shit like IAD allegretto to conserve his forward dash momentum and poke. That or he'll stay on the ground and poke with his normals while Nirvana harasses the opponent with moves like volante, fuoco or brio.

found the one other shitter playing this game and it was fun
i still beat him 6-1 and i felt bad

>>714733640
>i felt bad
don't
he chose to press Rematch on his own
don't sully his honorable defeat with pity

do people even enjoy playing fighting?
seems like they buy a game then force themselves to play because cost sink fallacy

Is there any reason to buy Blazblue 1-3 on steam over just emulating them?
I'm already using RPCS3 for local play and going through the story but I'm curious if the ports got fixed like CF did or if they are still broken garbage that doesn't even support 1440p

>>714734075
>Is there any reason to buy Blazblue 1-3 on steam over just emulating them?
No. You could play CP online with someone but that's never happening and I don't think CT or CS even have a functioning online mode.

>>714734051
I might be broke but 3$ can't sunk cost me

>>714734051
Do autistic people really think other people can't like things they don't?

>>714734051
Why don't you enjoy fighting games? Are you one of those people who only ever plays single player?

If i played fighting games i would end up as that one asuka sperg

I would get all the new fighting games but they all have gacha game currency shops included in these $80 games (with a full DLC plan announced before launch too of course). Also now the FGC is sucking off 2XKO en mass for a chance at that riot sponser money, so unless riot does something really dumb that makes people want to break ties expect that F2P fartnite trash to be spammed.
Slop genre now since after SF4 or so
Also every street fighter game after the pixel art ones has been extremely ugly (they wanna have either ugly mahvel wannabe comic book artstyles with SF 4 and 5, or hyper-realistic with 6) and now the new one has a 3rd or so of the roster as DLC

>>714734540
>Are you one of those people who only ever plays single player?

>>714734662
>sucking off 2XKO
Is there a reason everyone who posts on this site lives in the past?

>>714702213
tpbp
this is the only way

>>714734075
Most of the BB releases before CF were pretty bad and the console and even handheld ports were better. So download RPCS3 and see if RPCS3 netplay supports it, or go to a BB discord and download parsec to try playing online.

>>714730413
*yawn*
only reason its not more widespread is cause BB doesn't have enough top players to ban

>>714706403
Same reason Fortnite isn't brought up in shooting game threads.

>>714734051
if I was a victim of that, I would have gotten way more than a measly hundred hours on street 6

>>714712154
BBCSEX
02UM
I don't really have a locked in third one to be honest. I kinda want to learn Rabbit, but finding info online sucks

Yeah but play old ones. Most new ones are more about studying frame data and knowing when the game gives you your turn back than actually fighting.

>>714731673
Yes obviously.

>>714734725
Just go online, man. CPU fights suck. SP modes suck. Online is where all the fun is.

>>714734797
I'm honestly appalled at how bad it is with strive. What's even crazier is it was always like that with strive even before bridget and testament got changed.

>>714734662
>$80 games
SF6 and Guilty Gear are both $40

>>714735036
Are you pretending frame data didn't exist back in the old ones?

>>714734730
2XKO is gonna be at every major tournament and shilled even if zero fucking people show up to play it.

>>714735240
uh huh

>>714735347
Everybody already turned on it 4tranny

>>714735036
>Most new ones are more about studying frame data and knowing when the game gives you your turn back than actually fighting.
...You're kidding right?
>>714735418
>Everybody
And that wont stop it from showing up at every tournament even if it has the fewest entrants of any game there just like NRS games right now.

>>714735342
He heard someone use the word "frame data" once and thinks it's some hyper technical tying.

>>714734075
Story modes and whatever exclusive singleplayer stuff it has, I guess. Unlimited forms were pretty cool.

>>714735472
And nobody sucks off NRS games so what's your point?

>>714735036
>street fighter was a work of fiction in universe
Masaka... say it ain't so...

>>714735342
It's mostly important for knowing if you're in training mode crafting combo theory or if you can reversal super some shit. Most games didn't have an input buffer and had greater pushback on block so you weren't running "okay he's doing the +5 blockstring that leads into this button that leaves him +2 so this is where I have to push my 3f jab into dingus kick that leaves me +2 so I can either throw or press my 6f normal that could trade wi-"

Tons of old games are generally more freeform and less formulaic. Lots of newer ones you're expected to be doing a specific thing and then your turn ends. They're also much more readable visually, so you can generally play by "feel." If you think there's a gap or that there's enough time to combo after something, there's a good chance there is.

>>714736006
Why do nonplayers think people count frames?

uhh DOODs? Capcom just pushed an update to Infinite on Steam...

>>714736006
Lmao absolutely not, they were 'more freeform' because people didn't know frames not that they mattered less you retarded chipmunk

Tekken Summer Talk live in a couple minutes, come watch Murray talk about how hype Fahk actually is so you can laugh at him
https://www.youtube.com/live/qEjAe0CHRf0

>>714736376
In SF6 you gotta know the frame data on every button on every character so you know when your turn is up and what to press when. In games like 3rd Strike, you ask a top player what the frame data is on a random button (even some of their own) they're not gonna be able to tell you a lot of them. Shit doesn't make a real difference if MK is +3 or -1 on block. You're not gonna hit the next button frame 1 anyway.

>>714737023
I cannot tell you the frame data of a single move in SF6.

>>714736006
Old games do mog new ones because they're freeform, and because that means you have to study them more because of the resulting depth.

>>714735854
My point is that 2XKO is about to be a massive piece of shit and tournament organizers will still shill it for riotbux

>>714736006
Comical post. Just say you liked old games better because you played them casually for fun and weren't ever at risk of getting blown up online by someone way better than you.

HEED MY WORDS EVILDOERS
IF THOU DOST WISH TO CHALLENGE THE ODINSON, THOU WILL FACE THE DIVINE POWER OF MIGHTY MJOLNIR
NEVER SHALL THE GOD OF THUNDER RELENT

>>714737023
>Shit doesn't make a real difference if
EX Hayate is +2 or -12 on block. She's not gonna hit the next button frame 1 anyway

>>714737023
You are saying the exact opposite of how it really is

>>714734051
Sounds like projection

>>714737023
>In SF6 you gotta know the frame data on every button on every character so you know when your turn is up and what to press when
Genuinely the craziest thing I have ever read in one of these threads.

>>714712154
Third strike
Jojo hftf
Bbcf

Some day i want to play bbcse but im too retarded and lazy to bother rn with the ps3 emulator and parsec/netplay shit idk how that works

>>714736368
Mvci? wtf

>anon confuses people having less easily accessible info and knowing less about about older games with them being "less formulaic" or "more freeform"
My favorite kind of retarded /v/ fighting game post staple. Zero actual knowledge when it comes to old or new games and just pure shit spouting.

>>714712443
>are we ever getting another good sprite-based fighting game
French bread might have one more uni update in them. Capcom and snk are done with sprites and it seems arcsys is too. Maybe examu will make something? I think its just over to be honest.

Does Fighting EX Layer not selling very well pretty much mean we'll never see the Arika characters agaun in any capacity that isn't at most maybe a DLC costume in SF?

Any scratch that, does anyone actually like the SF EX characters?

>>714738419
>FB
People say they want sprite fighters but won't actually buy them or want to play those types of fighters.
But apparently someone at AX was saying that UNI still has some "work" being put into it internally and this is after the point about their apparent final DLC character basically being finished and in a playable state.

>have to practice for hours a day, footsies, frames, combos, matchups, every possible tiny detail just to have fun
Fuck no, just play any FPS game. No stress.

>>714738590
why are you a min/maxxingtard.
do you even have your life together

>>714738560
People buy them, just the average player is going to get the biggest game they saw on the front page of a store.

>>714738590
>no stress
Somebody has never been good at FPS

>The art was fake, only Yumia got a Reina skin and Reina won't get a Yumia outfit
Lmao

>>714738419
>Maybe examu will make something?
maybe after that one guy finish Omega in 2028

>>714738590
The only active ones are team based and that’s worse because you usually have to fight your team more than the enemy.

>>714738774
In FPS you get good naturally by having fun with others.

>>714738192
As we all know Dustloop ruined Arcsys.

>>714738590
if you play against other retards like you, you will never need to hit any training mode in your life

>>714738805
Was anything of importance shown?

>>714738879
>get good naturally
How did you learn every smoke line up naturally?

>>714738457
>Any scratch that, does anyone actually like the SF EX characters?
yeah, they're cool

>>714738457
people like skullomania in an ironic way and pullum was (is? does anyone really remember her?) reasonably well liked even though rogue from powerstone pretty much took her design and improved it

>>714738590
>CS:GO, Overwatch, Valorant, R6S
>No stress
What's the point of telling such a blatant lie?

>>714739046
Back in the day, some dude in a server would've taught you it, or you could join spectator and watch him do it. Now with all this matchmaking faggot shit, tough luck. You WILL queue with randoms, you WILL play with OUR rulesets, you WILL NOT leave the match for any reason, you WILL NOT have fun.

Someday I'll try Yuzu again.

>All this time spent on his costume and visual design
>When it is literally the exact same model except he has a fucking princess tiara now
He really is Murray's OC, I refuse to believe otherwise

>>714738560
>People say they want sprite fighters but won't actually buy them or want to play those types of fighters
Fuck you, i do like sprite based fighters, i buy them

I get that you can't get someone with that physique who also knows muay thai, but couldn't they find someone that's not fucking woman sized to motion capture so his animations looked more fitting to his proportions

>>714739362
>taught
So not naturally.

>>714738590
HOW do people not get bored of parroting this shit?

Brahmin saars know how to balance Tekken 8

>>714706403
There are like 3 good MK games in total, and none of them really have an active online community.

>>714739553
Murray should've done the motion capture himself...
Look at those killer moves and sharp physique...

>>714738590
>not having fun doing all that
casual

>45 damage long range low that fucking wall splats
Wow I love Fahkrumram what a good addition

>>714739974
Your first mistake was thinking you could have fun playing Tekken 8

>Murray keeps saying go lab it tomorrow yourself
Damn

Daily reminder that fighting games the so called """h4rDc0rE""" genre literally give lagging players an advantage, instead of making them stand still and become a punching bag like in most multiplayer games. And the whole community loves this idea

>>714740112
fighting games are peer-to-peer, not server based
they don't advantage anybody

What's the BB equivalent to Millia

>>714740112
Good thing wifi indicators exist in some games..
Eat shit wifi fags

>>714701605 (OP)
No, they'll throw you out just like every generation of fighting game player that came before you.
Automatic neutral buttons that move your character and do an optimal combo at the press of 1 button will be added to the next fighting game.

>>714740286
Izayoi

>>714740648
you described the dynamic mode in street 6

They don't need to fix the game when Lili's bikini alone will fund Tekken 9 and 10

>>714740286
Ragna

>>714740737
That's I-No

>>714740286
Depends on what you like about her. Valk has the same unreactable mix but doesn't have the projectile oki, instead using option selects to make the opponent respect him on wake up. There are characters like Rachel or Kokonoe that can obscure their mix ups with projectiles but neither of them play like Millia.

>>714740742
This game is never gonna improve is it?

>>714740929
Buy my watches nigga

>>714740648
Just play the good ones then

>>714740648
Just... don't play those games?

>>714741028
Those look horrible.

>>714741065
I won't, but that doesn't mean I can't want new games to be good

>>714740265
When I'm on wifi or even just throttling my internet/fps while playing melty or fightcade, my game runs normally, but my opponents keep bitching that I'm flying around and game is shuttering. How is that "not giving anyone an advantage"?
>>714740287
>Good thing wifi indicators exist in some games..
I can just connect to my router with a cable, and even though the router uses wifi to connect to the modem, it still counts as wired. LMAO
>Eat shit wifi fags
You're the one who keeps swallowing the shit you call a fighting game, kek

>>714741301
You don't know what it's supposed to look like so you don't feel it. But yeah people will just block you unless you're apparently doing this to people who like you like a weirdo.

>>714741301
>throttling my internet/fps
>my game runs normally
those two statements are contradictory

>>714741301
>I can just connect to my router with a cable, and even though the router uses wifi to connect to the modem, it still counts as wired.
Typical dirtbag behavior

>>714701605 (OP)
Fighting Games today:
>$70 dollar game that's bugged and imbalanced as hell. Got to pay hundreds for costume DLC and and filling out the rest of the roster with season passes

>>714741585
>But yeah people will just block you
Yeah, some smart people actually block me instead of having a meltdown
>>714741604
Well, apparently it's normal except for a little lag, which I'm fine with. But shit just goes way too extreme in the other end
>>714741736
Even in assfaggotss, CS, and Valorant, I'm usually the one at a disadvantage, just goes to show this genre isn't unpopular because of some high skill ceiling or "1v1 can't blame teammates" cope, but it's because the multiplayer experience is straight up garbage, even though these are PvP games and somehow the whole community is still blind to it

>>714742448
A game could be 50 bucks and have a free season pass for people who buy it in the first couple months and you still won't care.

>>714742535
UNIbros…

>>714742501
Any disadvantage you have is because you’re doing that to someone willing to tolerate a poor connection in order to play with you, I wouldn’t do that personally unless it’s an actual friend of mine, so that’s less on the genre and more on you and the person willing to allow it.

>>714742643
Uni sucks

>>714742448
>$70 for a pvp only game
but think high tech jiggle physics and tissue simulation. There are other games with more content and a longer lifespan that are like 10x cheaper. Fighting game players buy because of the cuck arcade mentality

>>714742730
only if you didn't go into STEM

>>714742970
hhhehehe

>>714742970
lmao

Are you supposed to backdash against throw attempts in Grubble or jump

>>714742970
What is this, the 2010s?

>>714745320
Aren’t they reactable?

>>714746361
What about punishing them anon, it's not only about teching

>>714747847
I wager backdash is better to punish them but I ain’t played that much Granblue

What happened to NA

>>714750343
Too busy accusing its top players of sexual harassment which usually turn out to be true because the western discord/twitter crowd is made up of fucking asocial wrecks of human beings.

>>714750343
I thought the world cup was meant to be like the Olympics.

>>714750343
>Atif Butt

>>714750343
was NA ever that good at tekken
I haven't followed it much but you never hear about anyone but the koreans and a couple pakis
lol google

>>714751878
JimmyJTran and Anakin are probably the best NA players and have fairly consistent placings.

>>714745320
Early jump, backdash or simply mash c.L if you have throw invul (mostly on oki).

Bird

>>714752135
Did they stop participating in 8 or something

>>714753975
Dunno, I much like a lot of people dropped 8 and haven't paid attention to it at all.

>>714728692
Anon the burger is normal sized, she's just really small

i've been trying to get into fighting games for years, specifically tekken but every time i just get overwhelmed by what i'm supposed to learn and i don't know where to start
i'm playing bryan and i don't know if i'm supposed to first learn his combos or just general fighting game mechanics first. i don't really spend too much time in the practice room and just do matches to get a feel for the game but it's been a roadblock lately, help me out anons, i think i like the genre but i don't have anyone to show me what i have to do

>>714755945
this vid should help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNK4VKeoBM

>>714755945
You play the fucking game, holy fuck i'm tired of people acting like the games are some mystical bullshit. You just fucking play them.