Is it actually unequivocally over for Starfox?
It's been 19 YEARS since the last main story game, Starfox Command, and there are no rumours of anything in the works.
Since then we've only had StarFox Zero, a gimmicky retcon that bombed, released on the last year of the Wii U, a console that bombed.

Nintendo isn't doing anything with this IP is it?

Nu-tendo has already committed to their anti consumer, anti fun policy

>>714724308 (OP)
I bought Zero and it's really fun, I did my part.

This IP only has a shaky foothold on the 90's and early 00's kids, it's been a long time since, the modern audience does not have any connection to Star Fox and Nintendo knows this.
It's over.

>>714724308 (OP)
>19 years
And Command isn’t even canon.

>>714724910
With those endings, it might aswell not be.
I was a kid back then and that borderline NTR ending where Krystal leaves Fox for fucking Panther fucked me up.

>>714724308 (OP)
>Star Fox is so inrelevant today threads on /v/ don't get any traction
Fuck this gay earth

>>714725716
Maybe cuz you're doing the same old whining like a bitch. Do something new with the thread. Post about fan projects or some shit

>>714725914
Suck a tenis ball through a hose bitch.
Threads on /v/ are either porn, rage bait or FOTM crap 90% of the time.
Go ahead and make the 347th Undershit thread of the week fag.

>>714725716
Why'd he give up?

>>714726672
Being deep fried and devoured in a Mukbang youtube video was his fetish.

>>714725716
God I wish that was me

It’s my favorite Nintendies series. SNES is favorite one. I don’t know why Nintendo hates Star Fox

>>714724759
Wish it didn't have the double screen gimmick, really ruined it for most players, also the "stealth " sections and the fact it was released on the last year of that god forsaken console.

>>714726297
What are you even crying about, man. Don't be like that.

Just make a Star Fox fan game, Nintendo will rush to DMCA it and come out with an actual Star Fox game within a year

>>714724308 (OP)
Yes.

Miyu My Wife...

Starfox but with more routes and what ifs ones would be cool.

>>714729331
the thing that annoys me about star fox's situation is that all you'd really need would be enough levels and replayability through alternate paths/levels and customization of your vehicles and maybe your crew and that'd be enough for a good game
it's kind of a slam dunk, especially since the time span between any new release and the last one would be enough to generate hype
shit happened with metroid recently

Technically Star Fox 2 was a new release

>>714724308 (OP)
I mean I could see the Gamecube games getting on NSO. Man I really have to play Assault sometime.

>>714728191
If you remove all the cool shit, you might as well have just put Starfox 64 3D on the Wii U instead.

>>714724308 (OP)
Isn't this character from Smash Bros?

>>714729331
>>714729554
my pipe dream is that the routes go through time travel, and the game is a compilation of the coolest stuff from the franchise the final boss could be several Fox McClouds teaming up to take on Andross

>>714724308 (OP)
for the 1 millionth time, they can't. it's simply incompatible with nintendo
>story: is wrapped up and over
>genre: on-rails shooters are ill-suited for both (((modern audiences))) and AAA-style games
>clashes with nintendo's essence: they make casual games, so making something on the level of a cave shooter that appeals to STG autists is out of the question. so is making a game like freespace
>at odds with nintendo's kid-friendly image: main characters are military contractors doing the dirty work of corneria, which seriously clashes with kid-friendly image of nintendo
>narrative backdrop not suitable for a G-rated game: it's a big no-no unless you're going for the cod military shooter crowd
best thing you can hope for is G-rated ace combat with funny talking animals, or starlink but less lame

>>714724308 (OP)
They’re bringing back DK and Metroid, so there is some hope

>>714730760
Hmm, what with all the retreading in the series I'd rather any new installment avoid Andross as much as possible outside of simple references to him in history and shit.

>>714724308 (OP)
>Nintendo isn't doing anything with this IP is it?
As of now, no. Wait till Switch 2 is in its twilight years to even think about Star Fox coming back.

>>714724308 (OP)
Maybe the world is finally getting over 1980s furries. Boomers and their cartoon furries, ugh...

>>714731410
starfox needs a complete overhaul before it's brought back
assuming you're aiming for a $60 (i.e. full game) release, games like 64 are simply too clunky and videogame-y for modern audiences. and we all know nintendo always puts out aaa games on their main properties

>>714724308 (OP)
>19 Years
I guess I wasn't the only one who wasn't happy with Star Fox Zero.

Yes, not saying as a doomer. But every game since 64 kept selling worse and worse with zero probably being the nail in the coffin for star fox. Why make a new game if it is only going to flop again?

>>714724308 (OP)
Star Fox is one of those IPs that Nintendo keeps barely afloat just so they can be in Smash Bros. It's the same for F Zero.

>>714729168
Nice too see you, fellow Miyufag.
There are about 6 of us total.

>>714731818
you know damn well a new star fox game would cost 70 minimum, 80 if it's open world
>>714738584
I like the nude version

Nintendo knows what to do, they're just afraid of the monster they would create.

Gameplay wise i dont see much new going on. Im sure they'd find a gimmick, but it won't be ground breaking.
Anything new would have to be Story.
In the meantime, there are a lot of copycat starfox games being made for steam.

>>714724308 (OP)
if you like starfox, fzero, majora's mask, you should check out OMEGA6 by the lead art director who left nintendo a few years ago
he designed captain falcon, fox mccloud, majora's mask, the moon, and others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4utzzsS9Rg

it's currently 60% off on steam

>>714735574
actually miyamoto really likes the franchise, but he is boneheaded on what to do with it, he wants each game to have a new gimmick
he can't just let us enjoy a rail shooter with new plants, new story, new characters, new music, etc

it's not like pikmin really changes that much between titles and there's 4 of them now

>>714741824
>copycat starfox games being made for steam.
but they all feel stale
you really need the art design of takaya imamura for the charm

Krystal Ball

>>714735251
because miyamoto insists on new gimmicks and doesn't realise
nobody wants to play on foot in SFA or SF Assault
nobody plays starfox for the strategy elements and touch screen controls in SF Command
nobody wants to play the slow gyrocopter missions with the wii u gamepad in SF Zero

the problem are the gimmicks
SF64 3D sold 1 million, which is ok, but it is an old game

>>714725434
the best part of SF Command are the endings

I wish someone decompiled and made a pc port of Star Fox 2

>>714724308 (OP)
The Switch 2 will use its pay to use social button to have you shout commands to your squad to get them to accomplish vital stage objectives.
The system will work as horribly as you'd expect, and the resulting poor performance of the game will make Nintendo shrug, declare nobody likes Star Fox, and put it back to sleep for 20 more years

>>714742530
and the original
imagine if it ran at proper 60fps and with high resolution

>>714740117
W-why is she looking at me like that?

>>714742646
she's a dog who wants a bone

>>714731818
All you need is Starfox Assault2.
Add on Blue Marine.
Give it alternate paths.
Keep the on rails maps as every 2-3 missions and you got a damn solid game.
You fags need to accept Assault was the defacto future of Starfox, it just needed to be refined.

>>714724864
The weird thing is that furries are greater in number than ever

>>714743645
no, the on foot stuff sucked
starfox is a rails shooter, if you have less than 90% rail shooting, the game will flop

also they should stop putting krystal in, she's not part of the team

>>714742695
Oh? What kind of bone?

>>714724308 (OP)
Furries ruined it

>>714724308 (OP)
Thank God. It's a mercy that Nutendo has kept this franchise dead.

>>714741852
Even if the artist were family I still wouldn't touch this piece of shit. Rock, Paper, Scissors combat? Fucking laughable you'd even recommend it.

Everything that could be discussed about Star Fox has already been talked about to death. They had a good chance with Zero but the control scheme fucked it over, hard. Even without it, it's just a lesser 64.

>>714724308 (OP)
Is there any other game LIKE Star Fox? And I don't mean on-rail shooter. I know Starlink and Panzer Dragoon exist. I mean the bad B-movie dialog that gives it 90% of its charm.

>>714725716
Why did he do it

>>714746727
resident evil series used to be known for that

>>714746727
House of the Dead 2 is quite possibly the most quotable game of all time.

>>714746884
>>714747641
>All games over 20-years old
What happened, man? Did writers get more "serious"? Do new writers get inspired by modern vidya and Hollywood films and not from 80s VHS schlock?

>>714748215
There's plenty of modern games with bad b-tier writing, but it's usually unintentional

>>714724308 (OP)
The Wiiu game would be been good and a solid stepping stone if they didn't force the dumb controls on it. But hell if DK can get a game there is a sliver of hope.

>>714724308 (OP)
I never had interest in StarFox

A Fox in Space however...

>>714748505
It's hard to watch when it feels like it could derail into gay furry porn at any time

>>714724308 (OP)
Assault was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqv4YB14uH4

>>714748596
But that is the status quo for all Fur comics anon, and some webcomics in general.

>>714748596
idk how you get that, its like watching top gun but sci fi furries.

I guess top gun was a little gay

>>714730897
Prime 4 seems pretty mature

>>714741852
alex kidd called and he asked for his dogshit gameplay

FAY
AND
MIYU
ARE
ENEMIES
WITH
BENEFITS

>>714749562
DOGS AND CATS! LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!

>>714730897
>clashes with nintendo's essence: they make casual games
Explain Emio and Metroid Dread then.

>>714746648
I play rpgs for the story/settings/characters
the combat in this is simple, but it actually has some depth to it, it's fine

if I want combat, I'll play a proper action game

>>714743645
>All you need is Starfox Assault2.
Assault is dogshit lmao with those autistic mofos

>>714748816
That’s just the ecosystem they operate in, man. You give a fox a trench coat and a tragic backstory, and next thing you know there's a 30-page subplot about emotional intimacy during galactic war. Webcomics especially lean into that soap opera energy hard - it's not even about plot half the time, just vibes and vaguely-romantic banter with overly detailed shading.

>>714729632
Star Fox 3 is next. Trust the plan

>>714746115
...Yeah, I'm stupid.

>>714746727
Ace Combat's dialogue is quoted nearly as often as Star Fox's is because it treads that same line of memorable and janky.

>>714744206
Captain Fox says otherwise.

>>714741852
Already played this and liked it a lot. The game itself is simple, but I like the world it's set in. Feels very 70s to 80s sci-fi, and I like the goofy designs of everything here.

>>714743645
>All you need is Starfox Assault2.
you're not going to get very far
>assault was a multiplayer game with a tacked on story mode
>consisted mainly of on-foot missions which angered gameplay autists (even though anyone who's not retarded prefers playing as a character instead of a ship or tank)
>ditched the on-rails gameplay for the most part, which also pissed off autists
star fox's worst enemy is its fans. they WANT their on-rails slop and won't have it any other way. meanwhile casuals stand on the other extreme and demand moviegame trash
>>714744118
and their ranks are getting subverted by normalfaggotry and corpos trying to sanitize the movement so they can take over it just like the rest of the lgbtrannies
>>714748215
>What happened, man?
moviegames

another big reason star fox is not doing so well right now is you can't just quickly cobble a game together anymore. you HAVE to flesh out the setting with muh deep lore, need to develop every single character with a backstory and their involvement instead of having throwaways, and the overall increase in production values makes games a gamble.
i.e. you can't have simple games like metroid, contra, or NES ninja gaiden where the setting is just an excuse to present a level anymore. everything requires an intricate plot with copious amounts of cutscenes, and a gorillion pages of lore with dialogue and shit fleshing out the world with details (currency, cities, artifacts, organizations, planets, NPCs like shopkeepers, etc.).
it's simply become too burdensome to make simple games

Star Fox will see a game on the Switch 2 at some point.
Series isn't one to stay down forever.

>>714759429
>muh deep lore needed
>it's simply become too burdensome to make
simple games
I disagree. you can still make games with a minimal plot/lore. Recent example would be Echo Point Nova

>>714761303
Amen to that but I'd rather just keep my expectations low.

>>714724910
I mean, it’s canon to it’s timeline, it’s just been rebooted since then.

>>714762036
>in the nine years since star fox 64's release in 1997, it had it's entire story arc with a beginning, middle and end
>in the nine years since star fox zero's release in 2016, it had

Welp

>>714748596
Episode 1 maybe, but I don't get that at all from episode 2

>>714752096
Ah, the Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel approach
>>714753787
It would certainly be useful to avoid yet another fucking reboot

>>714756656
>but I like the world it's set in. Feels very 70s to 80s sci-fi, and I like the goofy designs of everything here.

same, that's the appeal to me
I hope he doesn't do pixel art if he does a 2nd game, using his regular art would stand out more from the horde of pixelart games and look much better

>>714762036
Hot take: The next Star Fox game should take place after Star Fox Zero.
Star Fox Adventures originally being a different game and reworked into a Star Fox game in name paired with Star Fox Command's general unpopularity and divisive endings really muddied the timeline.
Star Fox 64 and Star Fox: Assault are fine and fit the Star Fox world, but the other two really don't.
Star Fox Zero offers a chance to rewrite the events of those games in a way that better fits the Star Fox universe. Make one cohesive universe/timeline.
Make the next game Star Fox One or Star Fox Zero-One, something like that, but have it be a re-imagining of Star Fox 2 in the Star Fox Zero timeline/canon.
Star Fox 2 was ahead of its time IMO and I think a fully fleshed out modern version of it on the Switch 2 could be excellent if done right.
Plus, I am unsure if Star Fox can pull off a Devil May Cry 5 situation successfully, where a reboot attempt was just completely ignored and they jumped back to the original timeline.

>>714728926
Tell that to Event Horizon which has actual VAs from the games and even uses a patreon, one of the biggest No-No's when it comes to Nintendo fan projects, and yet Nintendo hasn't done a thing to it.

>>714763910
I think you need to realize at some point that Nintendo doesn't actually give a shit about most of their IPs having a "cohesive universe/timeline" these days, just ask Pikmin 4 and Tears of the Kingdom.

Nintendo won't make a new game unless the can force in a gimmick. What sucks is that gimmicks work more often than they should. Nintendo knows this because it markets itself.
No star fox
No Fzero

They just won't make a new game unless there is some weird shit they can put in it or its already a big ip like link and mario. Im suprised Metroid even got some new games, but its because of fan games.

>>714764363
>Fzero
Funny enough this basically got a new game that still gets updates. Worth pointing out that it does fit in with what you're saying, its gimmick is that it's a online 99 player battle royale.

They should ditch making it a game and go full drone mode. Sell an augmented reality drone.
4 people pilot an arwing drone in a park. They get a first person view of their drone on their switch screen. You can see your drone fire lasers digitally while the drones themselves work like laser tag.

Hell, they could even make it single player where you can make an on the rails shooter in a park. You can code the drone not to leave a certain bounds.

Cut sheep girl and human girl characters from Star Fox 2 beta

>>714764363
Dual mouse controls; one to steer the other to aim

>>714764664
Sheep Girl is actually a prototype of Fay

As for the human it's been speculated that it might have just been a placeholder: https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/1779zx5/was_star_fox_2_really_going_to_have_humans_at_one/

>>714724308 (OP)
Most likely. Even Zero only existed due to Miyamoto's personal push and now he's more distant from games than ever.

>>714764521
This doesn't give me an idea, but Nintendo isnt big on "bounty hunting mercs".

An online single player arcade rail shooter. Classic arcade games, a second player could join in at any time.

Make the game where you're on the call to track down a bounty. Everyone online gets the call, so it becomes a race of who can get it first.

You can play a run of the mill single player campaign, or you can race other star fox players to the bounty.

>>714765025
This does give me an idea*
Fuck you autocorrect you cock sucking faggot piece of shit.

>>714763998
Yes and no.
Some series actually do have a legitimate timeline. Zelda has three diverging timelines, Star Fox had a consistent timeline, etc.
I never really saw a Mario Timeline though besides Galaxy 1 and 2.

>>714764363
I think we'll get one more gimmick starfox before miyamoto retires
and after, nintendo will make normal starfoxes more often

>>714765683
Or they'll just stop making Star Foxes in general.

>>714765769
starfox is still popular, still has big reach due to smash

>>714724308 (OP)
I fucking hope so. The series peaked at 64 and even there it was mediocre at best. I'd rather nintendo put the resources into a new ip or something that's actually worth reviving than this trash ass on-rails excuse for furries to continue to feel validated.

>>714763953
>Event Horizon
I played the latest demo of that and it was pretty fun. By its nature it doesn't play like any SF game but I still enjoyed my time with it. Looking forward to the finished version of lylat wars and being able to run through the saria campaign now that it's done.

>>714729720
>spoiler
Same here, anon. I had been scoping out good deals on Assault / Adventure, but I barely have time to sit down with a console these days. I've been planning on trying them out on Deck. Hopefully, that works well enough.

>>714738584
I am also here!!!

>>714724308 (OP)
I gave up after playing like 3 missions in zero. It's dead. Now just let me forget anon

>>714738584
Add one more MiyuFag sir! I'll never let my girl down.

>on rails lvls
>all range bossfights
>massive fleet battles with multiple objectives
>some on foot segments
>have a story with multiple branching paths and outcomes depending on how you clear missions
>setting up your team with abilities and weapons
>have missions that have you play the great fox and command your team and make you swap over to the fighters
>multiplayer fleet battles where you can also play the enemy forces
>coop
Just have starfox elements combined with ace combat, and rouge squadron and your set.

>>714765617
>Zelda has three diverging timelines
Yeah, this is proof that Nintendo doesn't give a shit about timelines, not proof that they do. The three timelines thing is a result of timeline obsessed autists trying to piece the games together, not any kind of official canon.

>>714772134
It is official canon, fans only drew those conclusions based on what interviews and the games themselves said. Only the most illiterate of autists think it came from the fans first and nintendo followed suit.

>>714725434
>Krystal Leaving
>Bad
Please just retocon adventures already.

>>714738584
What made /v/ flip? She was mostly ignored in favour for Fay.

>>714772573
why would people ignore this sexy lady?

>>714772484
t. gay man

>>714748505
>huge star fox fan ready to play his first star fox game

>>714772431
>It's official canon
It literally isn't. It's the result of autists who need everything to have a consistent timeline trying to make sense of a jumble of games that were made without the idea of a timeline as a consideration.
It's very clear to anyone without terminal autism that Nintendo just does whatever the fuck they want to and doesn't give a fuck about having a consistent timeline.

>>714773052
Yiff in hell furfag.

Genuine question, bros. What could Nintendo do to successfully revive the series?

>>714774921
Open world sloppa with blatant sex appeal

>>714774921
Mass Effect style game that lets me create a custom char and sex the Star Foxes, the question is which developer can they outsource it to?

>>714775756
And online components, zoomies love their online games

>>714775816
>custom char
>in current year
I'd rather they steer clear of body type slop and sparkledog autism

>>714776023
Imagine missing out on free money.

>>714774921
Prequel to 64 with the original Star Fox team (James, Peppy and Pigma).
Prequel to the original Star Fox titled Star Fox: Cornerian Academy. Get sent out on sorties as Fox, Falco, Wolf and Bill. Other Academy members get cycled in and out, Kat, Leon, Miyu, Fay, Slippy, etc. Getting all the medals on expert unlocks an ending where Peppy crash lands on Corneria with news of Pigma's betrayal. Unlocks Star Fox 64 in new engine.
Could also just do a direct Sequel to 64. Ignore all other games that came out after 64.

New vehicle: Jetbike with either pistol or the bike having it's own lasers. No new on foot missions and no new submarine missions.

>>714742142
Man, ExZodiac is peak, I can't wait for all the stages to release.

The bonus stages are space harrier too which IS ALSO PEAK.

>>714724308 (OP)
Lylat wars is still fun.

>>714724308 (OP)
At this point, I feel like sf is doomed to "throw a bone with a port every 10+ years" obscurity like earthbound and f-zero
That seriously sucks

>>714728191
The double screen gimmick is really just a way to hide the whole game is SF64 in first person, at 60fps and at twice the speed. I liked how the chicken handled, I gold star'd the dumb drone missions and kept avoiding them since though kek
F-Zero and Star Fox are my favorite Nintendo franchises. It really hurts F-Zero didn't get a game for the Virtual Boy or the 3DS...

>>714775756
>>714775870
I hate how much that would likely be "successful"
>>714774921
1:1 remake 64, like how resident evil did on the gamecube
then a new game that doesn't drastically differ from 64 in ganeplay, but has the option for 4 player co-op in campaign, with diablo rules; more players = more/ tougher enemies
If that's successful, then try something like assault again
I think adventures was just too different and too shit so soon after the juggernaut that was 64

>>714779209
>>714779305
>>714779384
Dogshit

>>714779964
>1:1 remake 64, like how resident evil did on the gamecube
A.) RE GC was not a "1:1 remake"

B.) They literally fucking did that already with 64 3D, a mere two titles ago, so if they're gonna do it again they may as well just port that over and dress it up a bit instead of even putting any work in.

Please no more fucking remakes/reboots/reimaginings.

>>714780309
You have NO fucking taste.

>>714779209
>>714779305
>>714779384
>Star Fox 2
>but also Super Metroid
Fuck.

>>714777220
Cornerian academy could be a kino animated series, and likely too considering nintendo's recent comments and how they love slice of life high school anime

>>714780427
>RE GC was not a "1:1 remake"
A fuck ton closer than any modern attempts at "remakes"
>They literally fucking did that already with 64 3D
On one hand, that makes sense because 3DS had a larger userbase
On the other, I'm sure it would've been better received on the wii u
>Please no more fucking remakes/reboots/reimaginings
Well, what's your bajillion dollar idea?

>>714774921
>>714775816 with Assault gameplay and more vehicles. Bring back the Chicken trooper!

>>714774921
Multiplayer is the key. Or more specifically, co-op.
Pretty much every Star Fox game has at least four members of the Star Fox team.
Have each member of the Star Fox team playable in every mission.
Imagine both online and couch co-op with up to four players.
You can have them all play the same, or give them all subtle differences mechanically.
Maybe even have different roles across different missions.
There's genuinely so much potential.

>>714724308 (OP)
Because Starlink: Battle for Atlas never existed.

Star Fox wasn't shoehorned in the Switch port. It was integrated directly into the main storyline. I said port since its also on PC, PS4, and Xbox One (without the Star Fox content).

It's a solid game. I suggest you check it out.

>>714781657
Nintendo isn't trying another coop shooter after Federation Force

>>714780984
Supposing that the franchise would definitely 100% never get a game again if the next one failed, I probably would go all in on the "character" aspect, since that's one element which basically everybody loves about the series. Sonicfags fucking ate up Forces even though it was so mediocre on account of the furry creator, so either implement something on par with that or else just create a stable of a couple dozen new pilots to recruit from.

Return to some of the strategy elements from 2 and Command to bolster the barebones "fly around and shoot things" gameplay. Maximize replay value, earn money from destroying things which you can use to buy hire the new pilots or buy new ships, weapons, customization options, etc. Include mild rogue-like elements such as randomized possible objectives on the planetary missions, kinda like some of the earlier development builds of Star Fox 2 revealed in the gigaleak. You could save money by reusing level geometry and textures for stuff like the enemy base structures. Star Fox 2 mixed with Crimson Skies mixed with Sky Rogue.

Aim for a middle range price point and expect modest returns, don't sink millions and millions of Triple A bux into it.

>>714781657
I really don't know how they never thought of "Hey, what if somebody else could control the other pilots?" That seems like that sort of ingenious forward thinking bullshit Nintyfags are always harping on about.

>>714785113
>I really don't know how they never thought of "Hey, what if somebody else could control the other pilots?"

I mean, they did. Both Star Fox 2 and Star Fox Command.

>>714785203
That's one player controlling multiple characters, not multiple players cooperating at once. 2 doesn't even count because you still only use one pilot at any given time, you can just switch between them when the health of one is too low.

>>714729168
>>714738584
>>714770649
>>714772573


>Ladydino's tickle torture comics

delicioza

penis cock

>>714765617
Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about canon and continuity in any of their series and there isn't a single one of their series that is an exception to that.
They do whatever the fuck they feel like doing and maybe then add a bunch of nods to other games.

>>714725716
goodnight sweet shrimp

>>714781657
>ace pilot
>combat specialist
There's a difference?

>>714789690
Between flying a spaceship and beating somebody up or shooting them or whatever? I'd say so, yeah.

>>714724308 (OP)
They will trot out his corpse for nostalgia points eventually. Who knows? Maybe he will be reborn like fox jesus

>>714790362
Maybe it'll be like F-Zero and they'll just do Star Fox 99

>>714774921
>What could Nintendo do to successfully revive the series?
It's pretty easy actually, first they need to make a good game, most agree that it's good, and this is the hardest roadblock for the series. For me, either focus on Star Fox 2/Command gameplay or Assault gameplay. Make a TV show or movie out of the series, since one of the consistent Ws for the series by players is that many love the characters and the world they live in. Third, keep the pressure on by either adding Slippy (base his moveset around Assault weapons) or Krystal (Moveset based on Star Fox Adventure staff & items) to smash.

>>714730760
>DUDE YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD REVIVE THIS DEAD SERIES WHERE ALL THEY EVER DID WAS REHASH THEIR MOST POPULAR ENTRY?
>MORE REHASHES OF THE REHASHES
>FEED ME THE SAME THING WITH NEW TEXTURES PLEASE I WILL PAY $50 MORE THAN ITS WORTH AND FONDLE YOUR JAPANESE BALLS

>>714724759
This, but to answer honestly, Star Fox was kept alive by Miyamoto. He loves the franchise, but it's really not a successful franchise for them. The sales numbers are low and the interest doesn't seem high outside of porn and I don't think Nintendo wants to know or chooses to ignore that.
It really only was popular on the 64 and nobody's really done anything with it.
I thought there might be hope because Platinum were super passionate about making a Star Fox game, but Zero had too many cooks and turned out to be SF64 with a few gimmick or two. I had fun, but it's not a title that sells systems.
I still love the franchise, but the story is a mess, nobody knows what to do with the gameplay (even though it's so fucking obvious to either make furry Mass Effect, or the far better option, furry, campy Freelancer. We even got close with Starlink) and the games don't sell well so Nintendo is hesitant at best to fund another one.
It's a damn shame, I hope that SFAs comes out on VC with online multiplayer, that shit would be sick.

>>714730897
>At odds with Nintendo's kid-friendly image
They're all too happy to show off Metroid and Cyberpunk recently. They've also never bothered actually exploring the "mercenary" aspect.
>Nintendo makes casual games
Explain Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Metroid Dread, etc.
>Making a game like freespace is out
Why? I get that Star Fox is not a name that sells units, but if Nintendo wanted to make a game like Freespace, they absolutely could.
>Narrative backdrop not suitable for G-rated game
Star Fox is essentially a Star Wars ripoff and that manages to be packed full of bounty hunters, pirates and all sorts of neer-do-wells just fine.
I agree that Nintendo won't bring back Star Fox, but not because they can't, but because it's simply not fiscally responsible.

>>714748505
AFIS takes fucking forever for him to release, but it's so good.
I really hope someone at Nintendo catches wind of it and uses it as a basis for a new game. It won't happen, but it'd be amazing if it did.

>>714743645
Absolutely correct. Deny it all you want, if Star Fox Assault was given a successor, it'd be a great game.

>>714792308
First the have to ditch the dogshit command inspired designs they have been using for almost two decades

>>714724759
I feel like I’m the only person that liked Star Fox Zero and didn’t have an issue with the controls. Maybe some of the vehicles aren’t as easy to control.

>>714744206
2 is the best game in the series and it had 0 on-rails segments whatsoever.

>>714775756
>>714775870
Quite literally this.
If it was properly done, it'd be awesome. As long as "online components" are an arcadey multiplayer ala Bungie-era Halo, we're golden.

>>714731410
>bringing back
Metroid and DK never left. Dread literally just happened a few years ago, and DK is a core Mario character, they were never going to abandon him, espeically with his role in the movie and having a theme park section for him

>>714785472
>That halo-like multiplayer menu
Goddamn, it's perfect. Why does nobody else just copypaste this? It's clearly be cleanest and best way to do multiplayer menus.

>>714785472
>>714790014
she is so powerful...

So wtf was that Starlink game that had the Star Fox team as a crossover? One of my normalfag friends had it, and it was some Ubisoft open-world, resource-collecting slop that inexplicably had Star Fox in it. I didn't even know it existed until then. How did Ubisoft get the rights to do that, and why should I not be doomerpilled that Nintendo thinks Star Fox characters are so worthless that they're letting fucking Ubisoft use them?

>>714794531
>How did Ubisoft get the rights to do that

the same way that Mario Rabbids happened, I presume

>>714724308 (OP)
it's dead because Nintendo refuses to just make a solid followup to 64, there always has to be some stupid gimmick that undermines the core experience and makes the entry unpopular

>>714724308 (OP)
Don't relax we're not done yet

>>714794531
>One of my normalfag friends had it, and it was some Ubisoft open-world, resource-collecting slop that inexplicably had Star Fox in it.
And it was the best star fox game we've had in decades

>>714749843
>>714731410
2D Metroid came back because Sakamoto finally found a developer he can worth with to bring it back
Famicom Detective Club came back because Mages approached Nintendo
Neither project were majority done in-house

>>714796991
this, not sure why no taste sons of bitches hate open world, but it's always a clear fire way to redeem any video game series.

>>714797189
>Neither project were majority done in-house
Then that fits Star Fox MO since Adventures, Assault, and Command were not done in-house, and Nintendo is mostly fine with letting 3rd parties touch the series, like Ubisoft being allowed to use it for Starlink and Platinum helping with Star Fox Zero.

Starlink was the perfect Star Fox game, if it had been made by Ubisoft with characters people actually cared about it would've sold tons. By making it third party they doomed the game. Had it been exclusive to Nintendo, make it more about Star Fox, none of the other human characters would be human, they'd all be anthro furries, have the story be a bit more Lylat Wars friendly and that's it. The Nintendo Switch port of the game is the best despite having the worse graphics/scope since the characters really helped saved the game and they're only there as an afterthought with a couple of missions.

>>714797853
Yeah but like, that would mean someone would have to either
A. Approach Nintenod and get approval
B. Nintendo approaches someone to do it
The former happens more often than the latter especially for niche franchises

>>714798274
Funny enough B has happened twice for Star Fox, once with Star Fox Adventures when Miyamoto asked Rare to turn Dinosaur Planet into a Star Fox game, and one time when he went to Q-Games asking them to make a game which would become Star Fox Command in the end. So, the best chance of a new SF game happening is Miyamoto to go window shipping again (which is unlikely due to him helping with Movies and theme parks).

>>714785113
>>714785472
Again, that's why I'm deadset on co-op being the key here.
Something like the pic you shared is what Star Fox really could benefit from.
Imagine if the game played like the Warriors games where each mission has its selection of playable characters.
Then once you beat the game you can replay those missions with other characters not meant for that mission.
Like imagine if you could unlock the Star Wolf pilots in post-game missions, then replay story missions AS them.

Nintendo not porting Star fox Zero to Switch and not seeking any litigation agaist A fox in space really makes you think that Nintendo really does not give a single fug about Star Fox

Star Fox Command being the ONLY star fox game with online multiplayer is so baffling, why in the world 64 3D and Zero did not feature online multiplayer?

>>714794531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kysm_jPkPoA

Star fox needs to be relegated to cameos in all of the space-themed franchises going forward. Corneria as the Federation home planet should be mentioned in Metroid, but not visited. It should be mentioned in shit like Kirby so we can unite the outer space nintendo verse.

Star Fox (SNES)
64
64 3D
Zero
It's basically remade, reimagined, rebooted, remade the remake, it can't move on from the original story.

What if they take the original… and remake it again?

>>714801650
>not seeking any litigation agaist A fox in space
Man, if Nintendo finally decided to turnt the fuck up and revive Star Fox, getting that Bojack in Space ugly as sin show off Youtube would be the cherry on top.

>>714801650
Maybe the furries scared them

>>714802625

>>714802141
>Star fox needs to be relegated to cameos in all of the space-themed franchises going forward.
That may as well be what they've been doing with the series. It's gone 2 different Nintendo home consoles without a release (Wii and Switch), only being seen in SSB on those consoles, and in Switch's case, they only have Icons for the characters on the system.
>>714802368
>it can't move on from the original story.
It can and has been done before. SF Adventures, Assault, Command, and 2 all have a different story from SF1. The problem is that none of these games made as much money as SF64 and were mixed with the existing fanbase.

>>714801650
> A fox in space
That's at least probably covered under "fair use parody" or w/e the fuck, there's a dude literally remaking all of the titles as a fangame in Freespace 2 and hiring the actual VAs from 64 via a Patreon shilled in every preview video and Ninty hasn't done shit in the decade+ it's been visible.

>>714726672
>hey this is some pretty cool wate-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>714802716
>Maybe somebody at nintendo is a fucking furry and his horndog nature cost him all the attention his game was supposed to get
>>714774921
Continue it with command never happening and bringing her the fuck back

>>714803324
>That's at least probably covered under "fair use parody" or w/e the fuck, there's a dude literally remaking all of the titles as a fangame in Freespace 2 and hiring the actual VAs
Oh yes, lets move onto the VA. She will educate you on how much Nintendo cares about "fair use".

>>714724308 (OP)
Let it die, seriously. Put it down like Old Yeller, cause while you still may hold affection for it, the infection has taken root, and there is no cure.

>>714801739
64 3D:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110924032035/http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/30710/nintendo-why-star-fox-64-3d-isnt-online/

>"Personally, I play a lot of online FPS games," began Amano. "This leads me to think that just making multiplayer parts of existing games playable online isn't enough to create a satisfying experience for users. The popular online games work in lots of things, so they play well online - and if we wanted to satisfy everyone who bought the game, the costs required for including online support would be vast.

>For this project what we needed to do was use Star Fox to provide users with a game that shows the appeal of Nintendo 3DS as quickly as possible. We put a lot of effort into the graphics, and if we had included online support then we couldn't have reached this level in the time allowed."

Zero:

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/16/a-star-fox-zero-conversation-with-shigeru-miyamoto-and-his-team.aspx

> "Multiplayer has always been something that we've focused on in the previous Star Fox games," Miyamoto tells us. "Obviously in Star Fox Assault, it was a big part of it. During the course of that, we started to feel that the single player wasn't getting enough attention or was being lost in the shuffle. This time, we're really focused on the single player experience and figureing out how we can use the two screens to create a really rich single player experience for Star Fox."

I could always tell going by interviews that Miyamoto wasn't exactly happy with how Assault turned out and probably wanted to avoid its pitfalls for future SF games.

>>714803581
>Continue it with command never happening
Nah, make the Kursed ending canon.

>>714729554
I like the simple idea of fight space battle, get paid, use money to buy ships and upgrades. Then build big space battle sims for online.

>>714762312
>>714762036

Yeah well they're not gonna make another Starfox until they have a flop console to put it on- oh shit they are literally going to make this for switch 2 aren't they?

>>714804438
It truly was a first for Nintendo, A Freudian localization "error".

>>714804339
>I could always tell going by interviews that Miyamoto wasn't exactly happy with how Assault turned out and probably wanted to avoid its pitfalls for future SF games.

He wanted the coolest starfox ever and got it. It was so cool that he could never outdo it himself. It would have been even better if they didn't back out of making it an arcade game.

>>714724308 (OP)
People bitch and moan about Star fox, but they shit wouldnt fly today.
A 50 minute story mode with some extra routes with a total playtime of 4 hours?
Nah m8. Star Fox is dope but it wouldnt stand a chance today and Nintendo knows this.
You could make it an 8 hour+ game but then people would bitch it drags and isnt really star fox

Its a product of its time.
See it like your bitch of a mom. She's still here and she keeps getting more bloated and story heavy and you cant fucking wait to move out. Now compare your mom to your friends mom who died in the early 00's. He had the best mom ever and she was a fucking legend and he would do anything to get more Mom, you know?

>>714724308 (OP)
Nintendos push to make star fox a real IP was during the 6th gen. All the games flopped, so it has now been regulated to "random gimmicky garbage" for the foreseeable future.

>>714803581
this is unironically true, in an interview with Rare about Jet Force Gemini, in the original pitch to Nintendo Juno and Vela were kids but Miyamoto told Rare to age up the characters into young adults (giving Vela giant milkers with jiggle physics)

>>714805547
It would work, but Nintendo wants to charge $80 for their games now a days. Star fox is like a $40 game at most.
If they want a new SF game its going to have to finally come off the rails.

>>714806514
>>714805547
Didin't nintendo say they want to make shorter games or something? well, there you go, Star Fox is the perfect choice! I do agree that you cannot charge full price for it unlessyou pack it with a lot of content

>>714803581
The irony is that Takaya thought the endings in Command were the perfect way to end the series because everyone got to choose the ending they wanted. He said moving forward the next game would either be a prequel or take place somewhere in the middle of the timeliness. So technically none of command is Canon, yet it all is. Just a shame it made Kyrstal such a bitch but at least it has the pure vanilla kind of ending I like.

>>714806919
>Didin't nintendo say they want to make shorter games or something?
Iirc they only said they wanted to make shorter development times (just like the old days).

>>714806919
Even then nintendo always feels like they have to put a twist on an older game to bring it back.
They've already tried on foot in star fox, so the only other thing I see if full 3D controls. Maybe some way to use the mouse?

>>714806923
Also, mentor Falco would have been Kino beyond words.

>>714779384
>>714779305
>>714779209
LOL get this fan made shit out of here

>>714807443
>Even then nintendo always feels like they have to put a twist on an older game to bring it back.
>They've already tried on foot in star fox, so the only other thing I see if full 3D controls. Maybe some way to use the mouse?
I can already imagine it, they either use the mouse for aiming in some on foot segments or nintendo goes full retard and makes the arwing controllable with swtich mouse only

>>714807960
reminds me to that guy that wanted to redesign sonic
>Seegah, please listen seegah

>>714807443
Lol, it would be Nintendo's own original peripheral... that would basically be a mouse but called something different and cost 5 times more.

>>714807975
I could see them doing it like some weird flight stick set up. Might actually work if they don't get too stupid.

>>714808153
Switch 2 has that, the controller can work as a mouse.

>>714808353
I wouldn't know. I checked out the moment the region lock announcement happened.

>>714724308 (OP)
Nintendo just doesn't care about it, Zero flopped because it was a late wii u game, Nintendo was well aware of that fact and chose not to port it like they did other games

>>714808635
I still need to play Zero. I know people absolutely hated it but I really liked what I played of it. Dunno if it gets way worse in the late game though

>>714808635
Not porting Zero to the Switch was such a missed opportunity, the game definelty would sell more there. Nintendo just had to retool it a bit so you could play with a pro controller

>>714807975
I personally really think the JoyCon mouse feature will have a role to play in the next Star Fox game.
I just hope they learned from Zero's failure and make that control scheme OPTIONAL.

>>714809192
It'll probably be mandatory. But if done well I really don't care. It's hard to fuck up mouse controls on their own.

>>714808792
I played it and i liked it.
Disable the shitty controls and use a controller with motion controls for aiming and it becomes a pretty good game.

>>714809192
I mean at that point what’s the point of even adding it? Everyone’s going to choose the traditional control scheme over the gimmicky set-up and thus not engage with the whole reason the game exists (pushing the flashy new gimmick). ARMS was largely sold on its motion controls but you could use the normal control set-up which basically everyone did instead. The difference is that ARMS worked as a game on its own, whereas SF is a vehicle for gimmicks. If they’re in, they’re gonna be mandatory

>>714724308 (OP)
>released on the last year of the Wii U, a console that bombed.

Whats your definition of bombed? The Wii-U still made a profit.

>>714779384
>that Krystal design
I am vomit.

>>714809721
I'll probably dust off my Wii U and play it soon. Been in a Star Fox mood lately and it has been a while since I played through the series.

Just copy Ace Combat and stick starfox characters in it(but use an older artstyle; that command aesthetic is simultaneously hideous and terrifying.)
It's got the perfect bones for being a hammy over the top action flight game.

>>714810703
they could totally do the thunderbirds dolls today

>>714810703
This is the common suggestion, and what I imagine would happen if Nintendo actually knew how to listen to fans.
What we would actually get is something completely different.

star fox

>>714775816
>>714774921
Make it so we can date any character including Fox, Krystal, Wolf, Katt etc. it's gonna be a hit. Make it be on foot so we can go to their houses and plan a date with them

>>714774921
I would never play a Starfox game because I dislike the character designs, simple as.

>I entered a thread full of things I don't like, how could this happen to me?

>>714812706
>Make it so we can date any character including Fox
Are we supposed to play as a random cornerian soldier or something?

The one thing I absolutely hate from Zero more than any other game is that the title alone is an effective clickbait. One would think this be about James McCloud or some sort of prequel to the 64 game (even though the cover was already a spoiler that it wasn't going to be the case). Then if you ignore that then you say "Ok, a new adventure for the Star Fox team got it" and it's just the 64 game again now with shitty controls. Even with Adventures, Assault and Command I have my criticism of them (especially Command) but there are things I got to love from playing them both from story and gameplay as well. Zero was just replaying one of my favorite games in the shittiest version. Especially when I already did with the 3DS port for fuck's sake.

>>714813676
And there's that entire animation made taking place in Corneria showing us more of its citizens and the surroundings. It was like a tease for fans for a possible Star Fox anime that never came to be. Instead we have to get used to the fact a movie made by hollywood is soon going to happen and it's unlikely it will be with puppets like the original characters used to be.

>>714724759
I wish they made that transforming arwing amiibo.

>>714814150
i would love for Nintendo to sell an arwing model kit or something

>>714813374
Well duh

>>714814062
Never sen that animation, is that an intro cutscene?

>>714814874
Star Fox Zero The Battle Begins, on Youtube.

>>714814874
it's an animated video Nintendo did to promote Starfox 0, it's on their youtube page.

>>714812706
Nintendo is never going to add dating to their games. People ask for it in animal crossing constantly.

>>714813676
It's because they have no clue what to do with the series. SF64 is the best selling entry so they just gravitate back to it every time. Like how zelda games just kept rehashing OOT for years.

>>714815886
>Nintendo is never going to add dating to their games.
The absolute final twist of Famicom Detective Club 2 is that the game was secretly a dating sim disguised as a murder-VN, and judges your behavior and actions throughout the game to see which girl you get, a la Tokimeki Memorial.

>>714759429
star fox always had a fair bit of lore compared to something like mario

>>714815109
>>714815173
Just watched it.
Damn talk about wasted potential.

>>714817021
Fr, that could have been the beginning to a Star Fox anime which we could still be watching its arcs but instead was only a tease for a rehash that didn't do any justice to the original game.

>>714815886
Does Fire Emblem count? I didn't play FE3H

>>714724759
I really enjoyed it.

>>714725716
>When you want to eat but don't like killing animals so you set it up so they kill and cook themselves
Genius.

>>714814062
Could you even imagine a better timeline where Jim Henson was able to do a full feature film based on the property in the early-mid 90's?

>>714813676
Another problem is that they started treating Andross like he was Ganondorf always coming back when that should have never been the case.

>>714814062
Star Fox should unironically be Nintendo's first animated show.
It's inspired by a show, like its literally in Star Fox's DNA.
And with Miyamoto at the helm of that division, it may not be as unlikely as many think.

>>714817467
Come to think of it, I bet Peter Jackson would have done a great job on it too, especially with a budget. He'd be coming off of Meet the Feebles which had awesome pacing, covered multiple genres, and was an extremely underrated puppet related film. I wouldn't want it to be as edgy, but hearing Star Fox cuss once or twice would have got the little kid brain excited.

I hate how many star fox fans don't even like star fox, they just like the /idea/ of star fox

>>714818585
This has become a huge problem with Nintendo in general. I fully expect ridley to show up a-fucking-gain in prime 4. Andross showing up at the end of adventure was so stupid.

>>714818727
Sadly, it would be a Netflix series no doubt directed by a certain edgy Indian if it was greenlit now of days.

>>714724308 (OP)
What makes it worse is there is legitimately only one good game in the series

>>714818727
Yes but the only issue is that there are not many good options for a tv show. Granted Nintendo and Shiggy will watch over them like an eagle but it also all depends on what kind of studio they will be working on it. If this was 2 decades ago, DreamWorks would have been the perfect choice.

>>714818585
Thats Nintendos thing in general is bringing back the Big Bad in some form. Super Mario, LoZ, Metroid, Kirby, and even now in Splatoon pre 3

>>714818781
Care to point out what you mean? I dont think I've seen much of that. The series is fading pretty quickly into obscurity, enough so where it doesn't really have a fandom among the culture leeches.

>>714818803
>show up a-fucking-gain in prime 4.
depends on where it is in the timeline, I guess.
Samus Returns bridged the Prime Trilogy into being right before Metroid II and Super Metroid.

>>714818964
He's just being an ass.

>>714818869
You already know whatever studio did it would bring back Fay and Miyu and immediately ship them for virtue points. Falco would also be voiced by a black guy.

>>714818964
Smash Bros is still a thing. People see games like F-Zero and Star Fox and want the franchises to be different genres.

>>714819087
Ah, I haven't really seen much of that. Most people dont really clamor for new games. Some want shows of their favorite IP, but dont realize how bad that would be at this point in time, this thread not counted. Seems like people know how bad current year Star Fox would be..

>>714819073
And just like in the Mario movie, Krystal would not need to be rescued (although that's a plus considering it's one of the things I hated the most from Adventures) with her saving Fox's butt instead and Slippy would be the damsel in distress of the movie (although this part is basically canon so it may happen)

>>714774921
Mission based gameplay with Great Fox homebase segments in between where you can select missions, upgrade your Arwings, and interact with your crew. It's the Three Houses model, just more streamlined (less running around finding objects). People would eat that shit up, especially the furries, of which there are more of than ever.

But no, Miyamoto is dead set on Star Fox being this test bed for innovashun and dipshit control mechanics so there's no way in hell Nintendo would ever just do something this straightforward.

>>714774921
Just make Assault, but have it be good and allow for 4-player co-op. On foot missions weren't a bad concept, but they did kinda drag on. With some more vehicle variation, it'd be fine I think.
Also, unironically make a genuinely compelling and involved story. Not saying to go full melodrama, but to take it seriously and be genuine. It could be actual kino.

>>714819432
If they didn't give her the usual stronk female personality, I wouldn't mind that. Maybe make her and Fox really play off one another (sorta like The Bad Guys). Of course, I dont think they'd be able to help themselves.

I'm just really hoping it doesn't happen in general. No doubt NoA would be okay with all the worst things they would do with the movie, but Star Fox is sort of in the dead IP territory after Zero.

Sucks to be at the point where the thing you hope for for one of your favorite IP's is that it just stays dead.

i really do wonder how AFIS will handle Krystal considering the guy fucking hated her

>>714820367
Won't include her at all, I assume. Guess we will see in 2037.

>>714820489
She's in, he shows some art and said he had been talking to estelle
>>714820367
My guess is they will be platonic friends and she shows up for a single scene like fay and miyu did.

>>714820489
>that release date

Kek

This thread did sort of give me an idea for an animated series thing... and I do know my way around Blender.

>>714774921
Remaking 64. They could add like 2 new missions and maybe some sort of multiplayer co-op mode where it’s all-range mode blasting enemies.
I doubt we’ll ever see another star fox game, but a remake of 64 seems the most likely one given links awakening, paper Mario, Mario RPG etc.

>>714820489
He has designs for her. There's another one but I don't have pics of it. He does draw cute girls.

>>714820562
Oh. I haven't kept up with any of his streams. I just check in if there's an episode every few years.
And then I rewatch the two episodes that are out every few months when I'm drunk or high.

>>714820562
Ah, the "sibling energy" thing that all totally normal people push on every would be heterosexual couple. Creative. Sounds real though.

>>714820619
The only silver lining here is estelle seems to actually give a shit about the character. So maybe she gives some push back if he tries some really stupid stuff. But she also might just take the paycheck and shut the fuck up.

>>714820784
Yeah, I don't think she'd take any real disrespect to her.

>>714820847
I wish things were normal and we could be excited for things again. I would have been excited for this 10 years ago.

>>714821119
Sounds like a you problem. I'm personally pretty excited. It sucks that it takes such a long time for this to get made, but there are a million different things to do, so I don't really mind the wait.

>>714820619
>cute girls
He gives them all fridge bodies, Miyu is a fat fuck

>>714725716
This kills the shrimp.

>>714821215
I'm just sick of "cool platonic" bro girls that are so popular across western media. It's so overdone across media, especially "nerd" media.

>>714821316
It is a bit played out, sure, but I honestly don't mind because I don't watch Netflix series or movies.
If it's a fun character, it's a fun character and I don't care about anything else.

>>714820619
This show is ugly as sin, this guy can't draw attractive characters

>>714821316
Like, if it wasn't always done to characters that had been canonically shipped in the past it wouldn't bother me, but it always feels like its done to specifically hetero couples meanwhile every two females that were ever in the vicinity of one another are always immediately shipped. I think its the pattern recognition thats getting to me.

>>714818964
They like the characters and the setting but not the actual games

>>714818832
Avi Arad is speedrunning being blacklisted by the industry right as we speak, so chances are he would never get his hands on it

>>714818781
i mean the good games are SF1, 2 (i arguably don't even like this one) and 64.

>>714818727
>gif
I'm not too keen on the kirby right back at ya ass style

>>714774921
One of the Ratchet and Clank games (A Crack In Time, I think?) had a fun mode where you could free roam in your spaceship and blast things. Do something like that with a free roam mode that allows you to travel to planets/stations, then have traditional rail shooter missions in those locations. Also add some mechanics where you can augment your Arwing/Landmaster/whatever with different parts that add significant variations to the moment-to-moment gameplay.

>>714821443
I can't stand it anymore. Like I said above, its just seeing it over and over and over again. You see just how uncreative and programmed people are and it's always a let down. Its always the same "safe" standards and tropes and you are just dreading seeing them show up again for the umpteenth time.

I'm always a bit on guard for any video game related fan projects I like. You never just get somebody that genuinely loves and respects the source material anymore.

>>714820489
>Guess we will see in 2037.
Worth every decade of waiting tho

>>714772573
>Dog girl more popular than cat girl
I have doubts

>>714821684
Adi would. He'd claim to have always been a fan. The fun bit is how he'd work in his hateboner towards Christianity into it.

>>714821891
Genuinely, what shows and movies are you watching that features this and why can't you just watch things that don't include this trope?

>>714775756
This, fuck that family friendly trash Nintendo is going for.
Open world Sci-fi with free space roam is basically an uncharted genre too.

>>714822020
>Open world Sci-fi with free space roam is basically an uncharted genre too.
It's not uncharted it's just mostly inhabited by scams.

I don't think Free Roam is the solution for Star Fox. I think Command had the right idea with the Build a Squad Story + Tactical map idea, they just have to do that but with way more map variety and a story that's not total dogshit

>>714822003
I mean, every bit of nerd media including Mario. People are obsessed with pushing platonic "sibling energy" relationships on would be straight couples, while shipping any two female characters that have ever inhabited the same frame. Bit too inebriated to pull some off the top of my head. Its especially prevalent in fan projects though. Give me a minute.

>>714805901
Adventures didn't flop, and assault did ok for a gamecube game

>>714775816
Drawing just reminded me how much I love when artists add Krystal's sandals. A lot miss the point drawing her barefoot when that's not the case. She's sexy enough as she is in game without the need of any detail changed in appearance.

>>714821316
>>714821891
In a Fox in space Fox is dating Fara

>>714822368
god i wish that accurate model came out

Krystal just needs to go on a girls' day out with Mia and Fae to learn all about Corneria urban culture.

>>714822474
Wolf is dating Fara.

>>714822349
Yea, that's annoying and stupid, but I think you might want to look into art that isn't ''nerd media'' then.
Also, I don't remember there being any lesbians in my Mario games, but my memory is pretty bad.

>>714804882
Huh? The switch 2 didn't flop, mind you, it won't do as well as the switch 1, for all we know it could do Xbox series numbers

>>714724308 (OP)
>19 years since Star Fox Command

>>714822349
Sonic is an example of this. Especially with how Ian Flynn is trying to replace any bit of her infatuation with him with Tarot Cards. Legit tried to float the idea of them "breaking up" in Frontiers only to be shot down by Sega and still put it in there in a not so subtle way.

>>714822512
That was in episode 2, in episode 3 l, in the current time, Fox is dating Fara and they are close to getting married. Matt said it during his 4th of July stream

>>714822496
Funnily enough, Gmod has both her Adventures and SSBU's models available. No idea how there hasn't been a Blender or SFM model of any of these to this day.
>>714822510
And Katt. Leave some for her too.
>>714822531
The Switch 2 won't be able to live up to the sales of the original. I feel like it's gonna be a similar scenario with the PS4 still selling good enough and the PS5 not even close to number of sales.

>>714822728
>No idea how there hasn't been a Blender or SFM model of any of these to this day.
there is but it's unreleased and posting the preview could get me banned

>>714822368
>3 toes
ewwwwww

>>714724308 (OP)
Nintendo fundamentally misunderstood everything good about StarFox, I do not believe they are capable of a new game. Zero was a complete shit show. I hated it so much. Assualt was horrible and the dorks would never shut up. I just want something like Star Fox 64, but better looking, and longer. It's such an easy formula, we should have had as many of these as there are Megaman games but somehow making little enemies fly around between buildings and space debris is just unfathomably hard for them.

There aren't even good indie games like it.

My favorite series too. I like everything like it. Red Alarm, Whisker Squadron Survivor. Slim pickings for us Star Fox fans.

>>714822778
You can at least the name of the artist/source.

>>714797274
There's nothing inherently wrong with open world games as a concept in and of themselves, it's that hardly any of them manage to justify being open world, most are empty with copy pasted content

>>714822890
jojomingles

I think the series should focus on spaceships. I'd like to pilot different vehicles besides the usual Star Fox arsenal. I want to pilot the Great Fox. I want to pilot battle cruisers. I want to pilot a freight ship. Hell I'd like to pilot a Wolfen at some point. Gimmie a bunch of starships to make a toybox battlefield with objectives.

>inb4 all dictator Nintendo will never let you make your own battlefields in a Star Fox game.

>>714822871
GameCube's graphics aahh

>>714823192
Star Fox Command was unironically great in what it added with all the different Arwing types, but then it sold like shit, but going back to retro style star fox also sold like shit, so Nintendo decided they didn't know what to do with the IP

>>714822728
It's not terrifically difficult to pull from gmod if you wanted to. Download the model, then extract it with crowbar from your workshop or addons folder. Install the source tools addon for blender and extract the SMD.
I've seen the exact same model in VRC, as with tons of other source models. Would probably just have to re-rig it but, for some reason, people hate rigging in spite of it being super easy using the CATS addon(even if you're not making MMD/VRC avis, it's still really helpful for weight painting.)

>>714822871
It's the ideal amount of anthro digits. 4 is for basic plebs, 5 is >>>/hell/ tier.

>>714822874
>It's such an easy formula, we should have had as many of these as there are Megaman games but somehow making little enemies fly around between buildings and space debris is just unfathomably hard for them.

I mean really this is just Nintendo's design philosophy in general. They don't typically do Capcom styled sequels like that, they're always about reinventing their main series with wacky mechanical gimmicks every game.

>mario odyssey is about possessing enemies with a cap
>dk bananza will be about tearing apart/terraforming the environment
>echoes of wisdom is about using a wand to make copies of enemies and items
>mario wonder is based around the wonder flower which gives each stage a wacky gimmick in of itself

A lot of Nintendo games are built around a weird centralized gimmick, it's not just Star Fox.

>>714822519
Straight up, I just make my own now and don't get into anything post 2012. Sucks when its something I sorta liked though, most of those being fan projects that eventually devolved into the sort of things I was talking about. Used to love passionate fan projects but its when you see the programming outshining the creativity where I just check out and get depressed.

You begin to see the ideas that are put into people rather than their own, and its what is usually popular across social media. It sticks out like a sore thumb when it happens. Of course this also bleeds into when an ip holder let's places like Hollywood or a western dev handle their property. They just inject it with what it isnt rather than respecting the source and expanding on it.

>>714823458
>3
>It's the ideal amount of anthro digits
I abhor sharing this world with revolting creatures such as you.

>>714823636
Or I guess at tldr: its when the pure creativity is influenced by things like social media and the current political landscapes. I crave the honest and pure creative visions that are so, so hard to come by now of days and that, when they happen, are usually hated by the critics. Not vidya related, but Godzilla KotM is a perfect example of something created by a fan, loved by genuine fans, and hated by critics. It doesn't concern itself with any pc or current happenings and just focused on giving homage to what its based on and being a love letter. That's what I like.

sorry if this is all over the place. Don't drink often and am in a weird mood to begin with. Been a tough week.

>>714823383
Well I think even Miyamoto would be interested in playing with different types of spaceships. I just want a game where you can hijak ships and use them against the enemy. Also you can design missions around non-Arwing ships as a challenge. Plus players making their own battlefields and objectives would give the game near infinite playtime. If we're going to kill Star Fox then give it a last harrah.

>>714822350
vgsales says assault didn't even break 1m, which even by 6th gen standards is very bad for a first party game. Adventure did get 1.8m, which is alright and probably why assault got made at all.

>>714823926
Agreed, 4 is much better.

>>714821987
All that needs to happen is Nintendo being shown his Pokemon animation and they'd never let him touch any of their IP
>>714822020
Isn't starfield essentially that (but bad)? The general consensus is that nintendo showed the rest of the industry how to do an open world game with BotW, even if I don't like it, so they could easily do it again with a sci-fi game, one-upping Xbox at their lowest point.

>>714822871
silence runescape golem

>>714824130

>the only good IP's nintendo has
>all constantly shafted and raped by their own company
metroid is doing pretty good right now, but these have always been dealt such a shit hand. they all overflow with such potential, but nintendo has very little interest. what gives?

>>714822368
Artists always forget the tattoo on the back of her hips. Even the Smash model doesn't have it.

>>714824069
Only PC thing about KotM I can think of is the bald negress military woman
>>714822496
What about that one secretary Krystal model?

>>714824419
I guess Nintendo just hates sci Fi, all those IPs get outsourced to other companies, Metroid to Mercury and Retro, F Zero to Sega and Star Fox to Rare, Namco and Q games

>>714824419
I think the GameCube era really messed them up. You trace it back, and thats the last time they really were creative, took risks, and had passion

>>714824502
i mentioned it
>>714823021

>>714824276
I also prefer them taller than our guy Fox for example.

>>714824419
Nintendo needs to come up with a new gimmick before they'll make a sequel. The only franchise they have that gets the Call of Duty yearly sloppa treatment is Pokemon.

>>714790970
I don't want anything new except more missions for 64. How hard is that?

>>714824628
Short kings keep winning

>>714824628
>Peach is designed to be taller than Mario
>Zelda is sometimes designed to be taller than Link
>Candy is also designed to be taller than Donkey
>Krystal is taller than Fox
Don't you love it when Nintendo makes the girls taller than the protagonists?

>>714730897
>nintendo's kid-friendly image
This is only an america thing

>>714824419
these three and donkey kong have all been fucked hard. i still dont understand to this day why the fuck miyamoto hates DK so much.

>>714824628
>tfw no ending where Krystal hugs Fox thanking him and lifting his body due to her size

>>714824502
And its completely inoffensive. On a side note it'll always be funny how the director pissed off Millie Bobby Brown by cutting out her fight sequence because it looked stupid and didn't do anything for the story.

I hope that director knows how well he did for the fact that his is one of, if not the only, western Godzilla flicks that the nips universally loved.

>>714730897
>at odds with nintendo's kid-friendly image
are you retarded? the fun animal people being soldiers is not kid unfriendly. it would be like if i said that ninjago or samurai jack was kid unfriendly just because they are violent warriors. do you think kid-friendly only means care bears level of toddler aesthetics?

>>714825127
Fox may be short but he's also pretty stocky though, probably heavier than Krystal.

https://files.catbox.moe/3kkmgf.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/qopuwy.mp4

>>714724308 (OP)
>star fox is a franchise Nintendo primarily uses for tech gimmicks
>switch didn't really have anything to mess around with, so no star fox game
>switch 2 has the mouse-joycons
the next StarFox game will have you use the joycons as Hands on Throttle and Steering joystick controls

>>714824819
I don't feel one way or the other towards the trend, am I supposed to throw an autistic fit or something?

>>714825637
Just be yourself, sis

>>714825481
the 2nd one has got to be her right

>>714825821
She's an absolute freak, wish we had more VAs like her.

>>714825481
jojomingles you bastard, release the model already

>>714825185
Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I think GvK is absolute slop and KotM mogs is any day of the week when seemingly no one else thinks that way, it's cool to feel a little validated, lol

>>714729554
Dont bring your metroid fake tears here they're about to get their 4th game in the past 10 years. Star foxs savior will be a successful movie which will be hard for even nintendo to screw up

>>714826149
>She's an absolute freak, wish we had more VAs like her.
That was the Krystal lady from adventure?

>>714774921
>What could Nintendo do to successfully revive the series?
this game but spaceship combat AND action/adventure gameplay

>>714725434
Foxvois fear the BPC, the fuck lil mcCloud gunna do?

>>714821971
yeah I don't really believe this
both are really good though
I'd hope any potential sequel would fold them in, they could work well as fun characters

>>714825481
That 2nd one is good

>>714826693
the guy who made the animation claimed it wasn't

yeah right

>>714826589
I feel like true passion projects untouched by current trends will always stand the test of time. Its why KotM will always stay afloat of GvK. One was mad off trends, the other was a love letter journalists told you to hate because the father figure was actually competent for once.

Its why it's always disappointing to see popular fan created content swayed by social media, because ultimately it becomes shaped by the times and will either be forgotten or live in infamy rather than being what it could have been if it would have ignored social media and the trends. Admittedly, its always easier said than done. If my own projects got love bombed by people trying to sway the outcome I might just as easily give in as the rest of them, even if it was subconsciously making creative choices to appease the perceived fandom.

also, the new GvK movie wasn't too bad for a dumb popcorn flick. They definitely were focused on fun above all else.

>>714821684
I won't believe till I see it but I desperately hope that is true

>>714823613
It's a great system for making new properties or reinvigorating series known for varied gameplay or games series with multiple branches so you can have classic gameplay and more experimental gameplay but it is fucking painful for series where you really just want more or relative expansion of already good gameplay
it hurts watching devs fuck up making a sequel cause they feel the need to make it drastically different when no fan was asking for it

>>714824628
>>714825127
>hug buries his face right between her tits

>>714724308 (OP)
After Kirby Air Ride's reboot, I wouldn't rule it out. But it's definitely dead for the time being. Welcome to Nintendo's IP graveyard
>Star Fox
>Kid Icarus
>F-Zero
>Fossil Fighters
>Custom Robo

>>714826626
...what? I mentioned them as a successful version of what I was talking about would work for star fox, fans and critics loved it, they're eating good finally
I've never even played metroid kek

>>714827863
Also
>Sin and Punishment
>Star Tropics
>Punch-Out!!

>>714827863
>>714828000
You know, on a second thought I can at least hope for any of those mentioned here to at least make some sort of come back. But nowadays we will never have something like Punch-Out ever again thanks to the cancel culture out there

>>714827863
>>714828000
Don't forget about Starfy, Chibi-Robo, and Dillion's Rolling Western.

>>714823926
Basic tastelet

>Kid Icarus
*insert Sakurai raughing here*

>>714827784
>gif
>suddenly remember that one fox youtuber killed herself

Still sucks.

>>714828000
>>714828241
Dillon's Rollin Western was kino too. It's a shame it became Mii slop as its swan song.

>>714724308 (OP)
>Is it actually unequivocally over for Starfox?
Brother it's been over since 1998.

>>714828378
I had the same reaction

>>714828378
That's Reddit and Twitter to an extent for you

>>714828324
>"I wonder if someone out there will port it"
He said this two years ago and refused to elaborate further.

>>714828378
yeah it was a real shame, out of the blue shit, had just watched the vids she uploaded of the new mama having kits
story behind the whole thing was messed up too, but that neither here nor there

>>714828378
I remember.

>>714828378
>>714828591
I still hope the tranny that organized it gets whats coming to em.

>>714827458
We had a thread about it recently, we had some anon even post receipts from /co/ from back when Avi Arad was first rearing his ugly head

Falcobros….
Why weren’t we as popular as Slippy?

>>714832004
Huh? Falco is more popular. He got that spin off comic and got in smash.

Falco is alitte too gay ngl

>>714824419
>what gives?
Interest and resources
It's literally that
EPD is stretched thin and the expansion hasn't been completed yet
The only reason why Metroid came back to begin with is because there are developers outside of EPD who are present to do the heavy lifting and even then they aren't 100% guaranteed to be dedicated to the series the same way there's a literal Zelda team at EPD.
Nintendo hasn't made F-Zero in-house (not counting NST) since X, could be seen as redundant by how much more popular Mario Kart is (Imamura's words not mine), and the big push it had in the 2000's failed to meet expectations.
As for Star Fox?
It's a series Miyamoto wants to push but it's also a series tied to tech demos, Zero exists less as a way to continue the series and more as an attempt to validate the Game Pad's existence.
Then again he's all but stated to no longer be in game development and just focused more on film deals and theme parks

Starlink was pretty fun if you only played as Star Fox characters.

>Metroid fans acting like their franchise is dying when they got Metroid Dread and soon going to get Prime 4

>>714835907
Metroid is alive in the same way a terminal ICU patient is. Nintendo will throw out a bone to pretend they still care about their older fanbase, when the truth is that the money is on selling Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon to children and literal children.

>Metroid is alive in the same way a terminal ICU patient is.... in my selfish headcanon btw

>>714835591
No shit sherlock

how is this thread still alive?
also go play OMEGA6 you fuckers
it's like a few dollars on steam right now
60% OFF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4utzzsS9Rg

FROM THE GUY WHO INVENTED FOX, FALCO, SLIPPY, PEPPY, ANDROSS, CAPTAIN FALCON, MAJORA'S MASK, THE MOON, TINGLE AND MORE

>>714836864
Gibe at me all you want. MP4 will come and go, and maybe it will be good. But it's not going to do the numbers Nintendo wants, let alone the numbers that would make them produce another one right away.

>>714824628

>>714837193
I think it'll do pretty good since there's so many switch owners

metroid dread sold 3 million, which is more than any previous metroid did
unfortunately it's still niche compared to normie franchises like animal crossing

>>714837635
To be fair, Animal Crossing benefited from Covid.

>>714837879
I honestly don't understand why people like animal crossing at all
only a bird brain could find it fun

>>714839549
Fuckable designs can carry a game hard

>>714837635
mprime remastered sold 1.6 million, not bad for a reheated leftover
mp4 should get at least that much

Such a wasted great IP

>>714840751
nintendo should have made more of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XkhPXXbPXY

>>714840957
explain top left...

>>714841027
You have to play Star Fox 2

>>714837080
I follow Imamura on twitter. His art is very peculiar. I'm genuinely not sure if he makes everything look a little jank on purpose.
There's a definite deliberate western comic book style, but there's a weird flat perspective going on to a lot of them.

>>714724308 (OP)
Yeah, it's a dead franchise. There was a window of time where they could have won people back by giving them what they wanted - which is just MORE of what SF64 offered - but Nintendo and Miyamato in particular's obsession with reinventing the wheel prevented them from ever doing that
>No, it has to have some new gameplay gimmick
>We won't just make a direct sequel to 64 with more vehicles and more levels, even though that's what everybody wants
>We will get close with StarFox Zero but then at the last second we're gonna force it to use shitty Gamepad gimmick controls, then never port it to Switch with regular controls despite every other Wii-U title basically being ported

They don't care about StarFox, clearly, and the people who did have aged out of expecting anything

My favorite game series are F-Zero, Metroid, Star Fox, Castlevania, and Kirby.

Two are dead, F-Zero and Metroid have a pulse, even if recent and future titles are mediocre at least they're around again. Kirby has been going strong for thirty-three years.

>>714842221
>F-Zero 99
May as well be dead

>>714841762
Yeah, his style works for some characters or things he draws, but not all of them. Like this image of Andross made by him is super cool, but one look at one of his Krystal drawings, and you're asking how this man was hired to draw in the first place.

>>714842221
All of those are still breathing somehow. You want a dead franchise? The Mother franchise is right there. Itoi has prohibited anyone from ever making a Mother 4 or even remaking his trilogy.

>>714842378
Yeah but at least there's something. I think Dread was mediocre but it was still fun. I hope that there's enough interest for new good games for both series but Nintendo's trajectory isn't looking too good unless they make the games themselves. Even then they'll probably make something lame because of trying to reinvent the wheel. I prefer dead franchise to being revived into mediocrity but I do have hope for things getting better even when that happens.

>>714842551
mother was laid to rest, more so than just dead. it had a proper funeral.

>>714842551
That's been dead the longest. It should at least get a compilation, no need to remake.

>>714724308 (OP)
>Nintendo isn't doing anything with this IP is it?
Ask F-Zero fans

>>714725716
>400 replies later
About that

>>714843586
All F-Zero games are now on NSO with the addition of GX (admittedly lacking the 64DD expansion for X). F-Zero 99 is still going, they even added the Satella-View courses last year. Its certainly getting a bit more than StarFox at this point. Never say never, I guess; there was the official release of SF2 afterall

>>714843586
I really hope they do not merge it with Starfox. Fzero has its proper funeral and resurecting it with a dead game..fuck it would be yet another starfox adventures situation that wouldn't pan out. They probably will never do it because of mario kart and have even said as much, but the amount these games are already meme'd together has me concerned.
Imamura and Shiggy were really the heart of them so whoever takes it on next will hopefully do something different while staying true to the series. I mean really they should give it back to Bamco if they want to make everyone happy with even a mid game.

Jesus H Christ thank you for not nuking this fucking thread for a change

>>714842551
Has Itoi ever strictly come out against a remake of the trilogy? Obviously he's been saying "no Mother 4" since before 3 even released, but I've never heard anything about him discussing remakes before.

>>714843906
>Still no Adventures port
>Still no Assault port

At this rate the physical gamecube copies of these will become astronomical.

>>714843949
>In a Twitter report by Baten Kaitos director Yasuyuki Honne, he had met with the then-Nintendo president Satoru Iwata and EarthBound series creator Shigesato Itoi to discuss potentially making an EarthBound entry for the Nintendo GameCube, which uses a felt like art style according to the concept artwork. However Itoi stated he was not interested as he felt it seemed "a little strange" with Honne claiming Itoi "seemed flabbergasted". However, at the end of the report Honne stated Itoi did like the felt recreation of 1980s America.

>>714843925
I mean, Shiggy and Imamura clearly don't want to do anything with either series as far as I know. The only person at Nintendo who's interesting in resurrecting dead series and has the sway to actually make it happen is Sakurai, and I don't think he'd really be interested in doing an SF or F-Zero game, at least not one that anyone who likes the series would want to see.

>>714844149
I was in a local shop recently, they didn't seem too overpriced. I just think they had relatively well-sized prints (for a GCN game) but there just was never that huge of a demand. Assault even got the BEST SELLER repackaging IIRC. They'll still only rise in price though.

Also, more people should get to play Assault's multiplayer. Top 5 multi experience on the system IMO.

>>714792308
At least now his animation is going a lot quicker because he learned belender and Mocap well enough that it seriously cuts down on production time. Dude is basically running on an indie budget at best but keeps churning it out.

You can play Fox in Smash and cry, that's about all the new content coming

>>714724308 (OP)
If you need a Star Fox fix, make sure to watch Crusher Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0913WqJYJrQ

>>714840751
Why did they make 3 remakes of the 64 game instead of just putting out more games

>>714844149
I am sure a legit collection of the old games put on the switch would sell well. How hard would it be for nintendo to pump out all star collection for more than just mario these days?

>>714843949
>>714844350
Sounds like Itoi is just content with where the series ended, no?

>>714725716

fine
>add GOOD foot mechanics
>add 64 style missions
>add free space shooting missions.
>add Krystal and more lore, characters development
>since you are mercenaries, add, co-op and multi based on contract
>drop any weird/too original gimmick nintendo style,
>her you go, a good star fox game.

>>714724308 (OP)
Zero was a lot more fun than Command. It needed like 10 more arwing levels, 5 more walker levels, and the removal of the gyro wing levels for it to be a good buy but I liked what was there. Command's missions all felt the same and the only thing worth taking from it is being able to use lots of different ships.

Fuck it, Monolithsoft Star Fox game with skells being added as a new vehicle type.

>>714841156
I did, I don't remember any humans in it

>>714841762
I hope if he does another game he doesn't do pixel art, so his art can stand out from all the indie crap

>>714842501
>and you're asking how this man was hired to draw in the first place.
I used to think the sf command endings looked terrible, but his style has definitely grown on me and I'd have it no other way

>>714842603
the snes arwing is still the best imo

>>714844720
thanks for the recommend
will check out

>>714846208
command was fun but should have kept the original snes controls

>>714845740
Don't forget more dynamic between Fox and Krystal. Assault gave us small glimpses of it. Especially with the whole concept of her reading his mind for fun moments.

I love Krystal.

>>714846602
still don't like Katt's redesign

>>714847797
Agreed. The pink was just too iconic.
>>714847204
I love that lamb.

>>714847069
Fox and Falco (and Andrew, General Pepper) look kinda scuffed in Assault. Everyone else is fine though.

>>714806923
My heroes! and a blue bird faggot i guess.

>>714850179
>

>>714847797
I still don't like the sf command designs, but I like the art

>>714724308 (OP)
The only consolation we are getting is A Fox in Space and I am ok with it

>>714846602
I too have mostly lighten up on Command's artstyle. I mostly now just think it works for some characters but not others. Like Falco, Andross, and a few others look fine in it while I think characters like Krystal look a little off.
>>714847797
Yeah, I get it had been two games at that point where she was MIA. So giving her a new ship and design to make her return more grand made sense but her 64 look is her best look for a reason along with her cute looking ship.

Go to sleep, captain

Star Fox by James Cameron

>never played star fox adventures
>finally play it recently
>krystal has a british accent
>she gets trapped in a crystal immediately and her name was just a pun this whole time
>it's a very decent rare collectathon
neat

>krystal's VA put krystal's bare ass on my timeline
what a world

>>714855261
Holy shit, two cakes

>>714855261
She's a treasure

>>714855931
Don't forget the Fox x Wolf stuff.

>>714824628
That's one thing I'd retcon. Fox should be taller.

>>714856146
But my space amazon fox woman...

>>714774921
Unironically Star Fox Warriors, but made as a mainline entry and not a spin-off thing.
Instead of hack-n-slash with 100s of enemies, think of massive scale fleet battles.
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity had an excellent format between missions that's fit Star Fox.
>Your goal in AoC is to contribute to the fight against the Calamity.
>You accomplish this by completing missions and side-quests in different regions of the map.
>Completing missions and killing enemies nets you resources to spend on upgrades.
>Unlock more characters as you play through the game, each with unique playstyles.
Now translate this into Star Fox.
>Contribute to the war effort against Andross's Army.
>Accomplish this by completing missions and side-quests on different planets and areas of the map.
>Completing missions and killing enemies nets you resources to spend on upgrades.
>Unlock more characters as you play through the game, each with their own ships, skill trees, and abilities.
So in execution, it's play like this:
>Main missions all classic Arwing missions, both on-rails and all-range
>Beat the main mission, unlock some side missions for that Area
>Side missions have more variety (Landmaster, on-foot, wing riding, etc.)
>Both main and side missions give resources/currency for upgrades
>Each Area has an ally (Bill, Katt, etc.) you unlock by 100%-ing their Area
>Fully playable in four-player co-op online and splitscreen, plus VS mode
So you'd start off with just Fox, Falco, Peppy, and Slippy.
In-game you can unlock Bill, Katt, Fay, Miyu, and Krystal. Maybe even like James or General Pepper as DLC.
Then in post-game, you can unlock the Star Wolf cast. Kinda like how in Hyrule Warriors you can unlock villians after.
Each pilot would have their own skill trees and special ability. Nothing complex, just something simple like in Starlink.

>>714824628
Nice try they are pretty much the same size. Krystal just has a smaller torso but longer legs which makes her look taller if they are not on the same screen together.

that star fox event horizon project has been popping off lately

I miss Assault's Arwing design.

>>714819553
>Three Houses model
This sounds amazing actually.
Between missions, roam around and explore the Great Fox for the first time.
Talk to the Star Fox team between missions and get to hear their thoughts/opinions on what's going on.
Maybe other characters come onboard the Great Fox temporarily so you can talk with Bill, Katt, etc.
Would be especially cool if you can roam around as other characters if you've unlocked them.
Like imagine replaying the campaign as Falco and getting to talk to Fox between missions.
Upgrading the Arwings between missions I feel is a no-brainer as well. Better shields, new weapons, etc.

rail shooters are dead. plane games are dead. single player games are half dead.

you'll play your open world computer generated/escape from tarkov slop and you'll like it

why havent you guys given up yet. its never coming back

Pikmin gives me hope that we'll see another Star Fox game.
After Zero failed, Miyamoto said in an interview that he always wished Star Fox and Pikmin were more popular and that he'd put more effort into those series in the future.
In the past couple of years, Pikmin has seen a complete revival.
>Pikmin 3 Deluxe became the best-selling entry in the series
>Pikmin 1 + 2 were remastered and shadow-dropped
>Pikmin 4 was real and became the best selling game in the series
>Nintendo stated that fans won't have to wait long for Pikmin 5
>Plus some mobile games sprinkled in there
I genuinely believe its only a matter of time before Star Fox gets the same big push that Pikmin did.
Even if Miyamoto is just a producer or some other less-involved role, he'll still be behind the revival effort.
Like I can see Star Fox being Miyamoto's big magnum opus effort before retirement.

>>714790736
>Third, keep the pressure on by either adding Slippy (base his moveset around Assault weapons) or Krystal (Moveset based on Star Fox Adventure staff & items) to smash.
I would love this. Krystal's my #1 most wanted, and Slippy isn't far behind.
Krystal's moveset in SSF2 is phenomenal and I would love to see it fully realized in Smash. Hopefully the Brawl/PM mod of her actually finishes this year.
Meanwhile Slippy has a ton of potential as well with Assault's arsenal of weapons plus the camera turrets from Star Fox Guard.
AND since Slippy and Peppy share very similar builds, Peppy could easily be thrown in as an Echo fighter of Slippy, giving us the whole original Star Fox team.

>>714859130
>rail shooters are dead
Star Fox is rarely ever just a rail shooter and even the games like Zero seem to have more All range mode parts to them. The second game in the series (Star Fox 2) threw out on rails as a whole and focused on RTS gameplay mix with All Range combat.
plane games are dead.
I'll agree to this, since I don't see many of them around.
>single player games are half dead.
Really depends on what single player games, you're talking about and how big the series in question is. Besides Star Fox is always better with multiplayer modes so that shouldn't be too much of an issue if done right.
>you'll play your open world computer generated/escape from tarkov slop and you'll like it
While Nintendo has made Open World games before, they don't seem to be into making EFT style game given there recent output.

Star Fox is dead because Nintendo views it purely as a gimmick series
All they had to do was take 64 and expand on it. Nothing more, nothing less
Instead they've wasted our time with weird Zelda clones, on foot missions, RTS soap operas, and two inferior remakes

>Star Fox Zero Deluxe for Nintendo Switch 2
>Big visual/graphics boost, really showing what the Switch 2 can do
>Reworked control scheme based on feedback, including optional JoyCon mouse controls
>Reworked missions to account for the new control scheme
>New missions as well
>Ability to play as other pilots once you beat the game once
>Online versus mode
Would you buy it?

>>714861182
>Would you buy it?
depends how much new content cause I already own it on wii u

>>714859850
>Like I can see Star Fox being Miyamoto's big magnum opus effort before retirement.
he wants to do a tv show, he's spoken about it a few times
was in the works with netflix but someone leaked plans, so nintendo pulled the plug
and now after the mario film, I can see him doing a starfox film and the smart thing would be to have a game come out at the same time

I just want a new Star Fox game bros...

>>714857543
it's my 3rd favorite but the nose is way too chunky
and I would make the g diffusers thinner too
exhaust is too small
with those tweaks, it would easily be my fav

so as it stands...
snes > zero > assault > 64/3ds > sfa > command > starlink

>>714861740
>was in the works with netflix but someone leaked plans, so nintendo pulled the plug

It was with College Humor

https://gonintendo.com/stories/376299-collegehumor-and-nintendo-were-working-on-a-starfox-claymation-pr

>>714855591

star fox isn’t dead
wait a few years and it’ll be on switch 2

>>714724308 (OP)
Star Fox is boring, the only actually good game in the series is Star Fox Adventures and I'm tired of pretending it's not

>>714861942
I actually really liked Starlink’s because of all the little details in it. Like when you tilt you see small little thrusters to help with the movement. Things like that.
I saw a really cool fan design a while back that tweaked the Starlink Arwing design and honestly it was outstanding. Loved the look of it. Sadly I’m on mobile so I don’t have the image on hand and couldn’t find it online.

>>714724308 (OP)
nintendo can't do anything with star fox
>the storyline is over
>nintendo is a kiddy company, while star fox is a game about military contractors waging war and carrying out secret operations vs the scum of the galaxy. age ratings mean can't give star fox the narratives and tone it deserves
>no one wants to take up the mantle. no pitches = no games
>the game's genre is incompatible with home consoles. fps isn't nintendo's (and the japanese aren't fond of FPS). meanwhile, star fox autists won't accept other genres like adventures's
there's nowhere to go. there's nothing to do
it's just like f-zero, which doesn't get anything because mario kart eats its lunch

>Star Fox 2: Star Fox with strategy elements where you freely fly between different stages
>Star Fox Assault: Mixed ground and aerial combat
>Star Fox Dynasty Warriors: Could have been cool if it combined the two games above

It is clear to me what the next Star Fox should be: Star Fox Battlefront

>>714861740
Playing off the idea of a Star Fox revival effort from >>714859850
>First a new Star Fox animation announced
>Star Fox Zero Deluxe announced immediately after to drum up hype
>Later on a trailer comes out
>Following Nintendo Direct announces a new Star Fox game to further drum up hype
>Animation and new game come out
>By that point, Smash 6 is here, and Star Fox gets a newcomer or two to further push the series forward
>Star Fox revived, games and animation are super well received

>>714724308 (OP)
>Is it actually unequivocally over for Starfox?
Yes
The Nintendo Today app allows you to give preference to "major" Nintendo series to receive stuff from them more often
Fire Emblem, Metroid, WarioWare and Xenoblade are availabe to be selected, Star Fox isn't
Basically, the franchise is completely inactive right now

My take: Starfox games suck & the only interesting part of the franchise is the anthro characters. Another take: Starfox characters are more recognizable as Smashbros characters than as characters from their own game.

>>714743645
Assault was an objective disappointment for the series, cited by Nintendo as a disappointment themselves, and triggered the series decline. If assault was so great we'd have gotten a game for wii.

>>714748739
People like you convince me assaultfags have a detangement syndrome where they can't live not thinking this game is an 11/10.

>>714724308 (OP)
Don’t forget Star Fox 2 now

>>714865620
Oh hey it’s Patch! How’s it going man? Still seething over Assault?

>>714824419
In my mind these all take place in the same continuity.

they should make a sequel to star fox zero that’s just star fox 2 remade.

>Adventure and Assault not even in the schedule for future Gamecube NSO titles
Starfoxbros....

>>714864869
Yes and no. Gameplay wise and mechanically yes, but I’m leaning more so towards Starfighter Assault or whatever it was called.
Basically you have big teams flying starfighters with tons of AI. One team is typically trying to accomplish offensive objectives, while the other team plays defense.
I think this could be done with Star Fox, but with the player count being 4v4 plus AI.
Basically Star Fox vs Star Wolf with AI thrown in and objectives.
Star Wolf is leading a Venom strike force, trying to take out key players in Corneria’s defenses, meanwhile Star Fox is trying to defend against them.
Bonus point for being able to board, get out of the Arwing/Wolfen, and start shooting on foot. Moreso like classic BF2.

>>714866593
Give it time, they’re waiting until the new Star Fox game is announced to drum up hype.

>>714862113
Three cakes

>>714866817
I wish. But better keep expectations low

>>714724910
>canon

>>714856146
>>714856195
Yes, Fox should be taller.... than Slippy!

>>714862113
/vp/ is that way....

New Star Fox game when?!?!

>>714763910
I'd just remove everything after 64/zero. None of thr sequels are worth keeping. Better off starting with a clean slate

AYYY STAR FOX THREAD HIT BUMP LIMIT

>>714868537
Such a miracle

>>714868460
New Sex DLC incoming.

The world desperately needs hot anthro women in gaming. The youth must be saved.

>>714869362
Amen.

Cute, submissive Fox

Until next time.

Do a barrel roll!

>>714869362
We need her and Carmelita Fox back.

Thank you for the fun thread lads.
May we get a new Star Fox game on Switch 2 someday soon!