Thread 714762629

>want to replay witcher 3
>"oh no I'll have to delete a bunch of games from my SSD now"
>"actually nope! it's only 40 GB"
Riddle me this, how the fuck is this game only 40 GB with TWO expansions, one adding an entire new area with a city while other games that look SIGNIFICANTY worse, run worse and have less content weight over 120 GB nowadays.
It makes no fucking sense, does it?

>Witcher 3
>40GB
wat

why not just buy another ssd?
they are dirt cheap in current year

>>714762728
I did install the HD texture pack and a language pack. 1.32 GOTY version form GOG

>>714762807
I already have two 4 TB NVMEs, no more free slots on my mainboard.

>>714762629 (OP)
Devs legitimately either don't give a shit anymore, are genuinely fucking incompetent or are competing for your space like CoD does. Videogames have not only stagnated but actively degraded over the last decade, and anyone arguing otherwise is either a clueless moron or an industry plant. The games that actually utilise modern hardware properly (that are also the only ones brought up when this topic is discussed) both in a technical and an artistic sense are a minority. And the crazy part is that this opinion is considered controversial because most of the replies you'll get are "how game stagnated if polygons quadrupled???"

>>714762906
sata ssds exist anon, there is almost no difference when gaming compared to nvme.

>>714762629 (OP)
AFAIK, proper compression algos do that.

>>714762964
They do make a difference and I will not compromise.

>>714763056
post your proof

>listens to FLAC
>images and artbooks are PNG
>devs give you best quality audio and t-NO THIS IS BLOAT I DON'T WANT QUALITY

>>714762629 (OP)
Several factors but it boils down to a few, it benefits you as a game developer to deliberately bloat your game's total filesize as much as possible because when someone installs your game and wants to keep your game playable on their system it creates a friction point where they have to delete something limiting how many competitors for your attention you can have installed at one time.

In past times physical media was a limiting factor, if you went over 8gb you needed to include another DVD which means less profit margin, so you were incentivized to keep your games to one or maybe two discs, now everything is digital so it doesn't make a difference if the game is 40gb or 400gb.

>>714763187
>forces you to upscale his game from 720p, applies 2xTXAA, forces you to use fake AI frames, litters your screen with denoiser artefacts, ghosting and shadow flickering
>all while you own the latest hardware

Yeah, nice "quality"

It was made by white heterosexual men

>>714762629 (OP)
>What are 4k textures?
That is literally it, you outrage queen.

>>714762629 (OP)
For some reason it feels like games stopped progressing visually after 2015.

These past 10 years have been disaster for game visuals. MGSV, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight all look much better than their 2020s equivalents and the real kicker is those game run like a dream while also looking better.

I want to blame global illumination, its supposed to be so much more realistic lighting model but the overall effect it brings is just muddy lighting at the cost of most of your performance and a massive increase in VRAM usage and the other major innovation in the past 10 years was fake frames, fake resolution, AI generation slop.

>>714763908
KC2 BTFOs Witcher3 visually.

>>714763813
And a random teapot on a table I spend 2 nanoseconds looking at having a 4k diffusemap, 4k specularmap, 4k baked AO map, 4k normalmap benefits me how exactly?

>>714764076
looks very muddy and low res
>meanwhile a game from 10 years ago in a similar setting/lighting picrel

>>714762629 (OP)
Its hard to believe these games area already 10 years old, where did the time go?

>>714762629 (OP)
The Next Gen edition is about 56 GB.

>>714764076
>recommended gpu = rtx 4070
>>714764257
>recommended gpu = gtx 970

really makes you think

>>714762629 (OP)
They force you to delete game after playing it so you won't have it "backed up" or "stored" in your device.
That way whenever they are going to release a "remastered" version of said game, they'll take down the previous one first.
By making games bloated af they have a chance to "force you into buying new remastered version of game because you deleted previous game so you could play another bloated game".
Simple strategy

>>714764693
I'm not playing that though.

>>714762629 (OP)
Because no Indians were involved in the making of it

>>714763908
>These past 10 years have been disaster for game visuals. MGSV, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight all look much better than their 2020s equivalents
No they don't.

>>714763908
Gotham Knights blows out the entire arkham series. So much more fun

>>714763908
>MGSV, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight
last studios that were composed by coherent, nationally homogeneous teams that had been working together for at the very least a decade together, anyone who didn't immediately know that CP2077 was going to be fucked the moment half of the original studio bailed is a legit idiot

I think MGSV was the last time a game impressed me with its visuals. That's not to say it looks better than any other game, its just the last time a game wowed me, and it did it not only by how good it looked, but also by how well it performed while looking that good.

>>714763908
This is only true because indieslop is the only vidya that is half decent anymore. Every 2010's era AAA studio has just completely implode with very few exceptions.

Even among indieslop, some people just can't into Unreal Engine. Gray Zone Warfare looks absolutely fucked compared to something like Red River Incursion. And DLSS is so terrible, I don't understand how people can tolerate the weird artifacting that comes with it.

>>714762629 (OP)
In US, most reasonably priced internet connections have data caps. If the game is big, consuner wants to keep it installed because redownloading may eat up your internet quota for an entire month. Thus he is more likely to play it again later and chance of him buying microtransactions again goes up. For EU and states with unlimited data it works the other way around: bigger games get deleted faster because it frees up space for a dozen other games and you can redownload huge game with practically no repercussions.
Yes, this is annoying and worse for everyone buying games, but it makes more profit.
There are tech reasons too

>>714764257
Wut game?

>>714764762
The fact that I was able to pay TW3 on my now 10 year old GTX 960m makes me put it in higher regard for me.

>>714765318
star wars battlefront(2015)

>>714762807
t. retard game dev

uncompressed audio
I used to think this was a meme, but it turns out call of duty games don't compress audio for performance reasons

>>714762964
sata SSDs are way more expensive now because nvmes are all that's getting produced

Imagine if we offset this thread by 10 years, imagine if someone from 2015 was talking like this about games from 2005.

>>714764076
it looks like plastic

>>714765749
for now, there will come a time when storage space becomes a real problem and they'll be forced to return to sata.

>>714762629 (OP)
Bump

>>714764098
it doesn't but we've got this whole building in Mumbai churning out 4K assets and we need to use them otherwise why are we employing them?

>>714762629 (OP)
Lower poly models. Simple as. We're all living amidst the ruins of the graphixxxxfagging that nobody cared enough to stop.

>>714763908
It's because there's no visual difference between a 40,000 triangle model and a 400,000 triangle model when it belongs to a generic footsoldier mob that you kill before it ever gets close. Ever since the mid 2010s we hit the peak of what you can perceive as a visual improvement during normal gameplay when everything (including the camera) is in motion. Since then it's just been Nvidia simps jerking each other off over their $2000 photo modes. Nothing more.

>>714763187
>game has flac soundtrack that sounds worse than .ogg from 20 year old games because its uninspired slop
>game has 4k textures that look boring as fuck and worse than 15 year old game 1080p textures
whats the fucking point
pic related is on 1080p and below maximum settings and still looks way better than anything that any game that demands a 4080 will throw at you

>>714764856
the plain shirt look for geralt is better served with no gloves

>>714762629 (OP)
They forgot to put in the good gameplay