Thread 714767097

>Nintendo announced they will start experimenting with shorter smaller games to combat dev times and big budgets

Is Nintendo about to start selling Wario microgames for $80? Their games are already on the super low end of value for your money, and take 5-10 years to develop anyway, there's nothing to take away

>>714767097 (OP)
Odyssey has ridiculously good replay value when you start chasing every moon like a dumb motherfucker who is wasting his life doing the most boring shit over and over again.

Would rather have the best 14 hours of my life than be moderately amused for 70 just to say it was worth the dollar.

>>714767097 (OP)
I thought AI made everyone 10x more efficient? Why are games taking longer to complete?

>>714767564
This is cope because no Nintendo game since the SNES can give you "the best hours of your life"

>>714767648
Because stupid monkeys screech when there aren't hyperrealistic graphics with assets factory made by 3000 Indians scored by London Symphonic Orchestra that plays for 300 hours for a low price of $29.99 on a Steam sale

>>714767385
>Odyssey has ridiculously good replay value
No it doesn't 90% of the moon tasks are dogshit.
the movement is fun and that is all that's saving the game.

>>714767681
Works on my machine

I remember back in the N64 days games like Crusin' USA was sold as "value" games.

>>714767842
Now Nintendo will sell you those value games at $70 for a whopping 5 hours of fun.

>>714767749
The movement isn't as fun as SM64, even if it's more refined in Odyssey.

>>714767728
TOTK took 7 years and didn't have any AAA production values, after reusing the whole BOTW engine, world, and assets

>>714767965
I didn't even say anything about Tears, does it pay rent living in your head? I don't think Nintendo is interested in exploring the standard AAA dev model. You either take it or you leave it. Fuming about it is pointless.

>>714767097 (OP)
I have 70 hours on one game file. And I’m still missing some costumes. That’s a basic trip to beginning to end. But you already knew that.

>>714767728
>tendies are not only glad, but WANT to play $80 games for 6 hours
Boy do I have a company that will meet those requirements.

>>714767728
Nintendo fans don't even have any standards for art direction or model & texture quality anymore.
the new switch 2 titles objectively have worse art direction than WiiU titles and they still lap it up.
and They've never wanted realistic shit (fair play to them realism is fucking ugly)

DK bananza is some of the most low poly, low res garbage I've seen in generations. Don't try to tell me that the "poor Nintendo workers are having to make 3D art that is too detailed and high quality" because it's bullshit.

>>714768232
Seethe Eric, seethe

>>714768045
The point is that everything you listed apparently isn't what's causing the longer dev times, since Nintendo is taking so long even without all that, while reusing 90% of a previous existing game

>>714768232
You have shit taste. Show us on the doll where Nintendo touched you.

>>714768370
Casual

>>714768345
Making fun of his friends at Nintendo is a really mean thing to do. You need to show blind devotion or the tendie goes into a meltie and starts talking about sales, metacritic scores, or profits.

>>714767749
I know you stopped reading that post halfway through to make your point, but the rest of the post was the exact same point you were making but sarcastic.

>>714767097 (OP)
>Nintendo announced they will start experimenting with shorter smaller games to combat dev times and big budgets

It's weird to hear that from Nintendo when it's such a no-brainer dipshit chicken nugget obvious thing to do that they were doing it all the time earlier in the companies history (I vaguely remember Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask being smaller budget, quicker, experiments by b-teams). I don't understand why every video game and film company seemingly makes this same mistake, over and over again, where they're simultaneously so risk averse, but so liquid, that they can't spare a million on a "fuck around" smaller title, but they'll spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a supposedly """safe""" piece of shit only for it it crash and burn.

What the fuck happened to all the developers and companies they had making their 3ds games?
Nintendo supported the 3ds for nearly 3 entire consoles, then discontinued it, focused entirely on the Switch, and that somehow lead to even fewer games.

>>714767097 (OP)
>Nintendo announced they will start experimenting with shorter smaller games to combat dev times and big budgets
Source?

Shorter and more challenging games for 30 bucks would be amazing, but this isn't NES era Nintendo so that's not happening.

>>714768880
You’re getting shorter games for $70 lmfao

>>714768760
>and that somehow lead to even fewer games.
Nintendo made more new games for the Switch than they did for the 3DS and Wii U combined.

>>714767097 (OP)
Called it!

>>714769114
>Nintendo made more new games for the Switch than they did for the 3DS and Wii U combined.

That can't be right-

>Over 12,700 games have been released for the Nintendo Switch. This includes a wide variety of titles from various developers and publishers, spanning different genres and release dates.

>Approximately 1,683 physical and digital games were released for the Nintendo 3DS.

>There are 2,603 video games on Wii. They were released between the years 2006 and 2020.

I'm gonna have a fucking stroke.

>>714767681
>no Nintendo game since the SNES can give you "the best hours of your life"
Majora's Mask, Mother 3, BotW, TWEWY, Bravely Default, SMT IV, DKCR, etc

>>714769239
No shit. Nintendo is extremely greedy so people know what to expect. Wanna call out any other predictions? Will the sun rise tomorrow as well? Cock sucking faggot.

>>714769420
>You will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I've been found out.”

>>714767097 (OP)
I dont understand why Nintendo doesn't just cut all the boring moons and tries to actually improve this game with extra content like they did with the other Mario's.

Is Twilight princess on the GameCube add on for Nintendo online?

>>714769420
No, cock sucking faggot. I called you trying to turn Nintendo making smaller, cheaper (to make and buy) games into another "controversy".
Yes, due to your psychotic derangement over anything Nintendo it wasn't a hard call to make.

>>714767681
>This is cope because no Nintendo game since the SNES can give you "the best hours of your life"

Skill issue.

If they committed to releasing games like end-of-life Wii titles like Pandora's Tower alongside early, niche staples of the library like Trauma Center, the Switch 2 would carve out an incredibly strong niche as the dedicated AA machine in the industry. That's probably the most valuable place to be, since you get all of the ambitious ideas with a decent budget, but you don't blow the fund trying to introduce horse asshole physics because you need to justify that expensive middleware feature you blew the budget on.

>>714769271
>This includes a wide variety of titles from various developers and publishers, spanning different genres and release dates.
Take into consideration that there's a lot of shovelware

Metroid Dread was good but too short to be worth $60. If they're going to release shorter games, the price should reflect that or they should release them as a collection.

>>714769271
that's games released not games they made

I'm fine with shorter games if they either cost less or are released alongside other content like Bowser's Fury. I'm not paying $60 for Xenoblade Future Connected alone.

>>714767097 (OP)
let me gues, 90$ is too much for you? Why? Are you too poor to buy a 100$ game? It' jut 110$ bro, who care if it costs 120$?

>>714769364
I'll give you MM and TWEWY but the rest hell no, also TWEWY was just a temporary exclusive not a Nintendo game

Hating on Odyssey is the most contrarian thing one can do as a gamer and I am glad the opinion is on the extreme minority with just a couple losers that still think 64 is the best one, growing old as a nostalgic 35+ Millenian Nintendo hater has to be one of the saddest fate one could jump into.

>>714769780
Lmao I beat Mario wonder last night and the switch said I played it for roughly 10 hours. That was a $60 game. You’ll now be paying $70 for the that same length.
You didn’t think your friends at Nintendo would charge you less, did you?
Remember the Wii u’s star fox? 3 hours for $60. That’s what you’re gonna be getting and you’ll thank them for it you cultist.

>everyone for the past ten years: just make smaller games
>AAA developers: what's that? Even bigger games? Live service games?
>Nintendo literally just does what people were saying, and it's going to be treated like some insane stroke of genius, or heretical insanity, again.

>>714769962
Best I can do is games smaller and shorter than Dread at $70 + tip

>>714769962
>>714770159
Lmao it’s $70 now. They increased their price. It’ll be cheaper for Nintendo to make, not their paypiggies.

>>714770368
The point is that Nintendo was already making tiny games, what they needed is to make them more quickly, more often, and cheaper, they're doing the opposite

people crying about the prices will be first in line to buy GTA VI for $120 USD

>>714767681
SNES era Nintendo was kind of mediocre, actually. Their games peaked with GC and GBA, if not the Wii U

>>714770292
I don't hate on Odyssey but I find it extremely overrated, it's fun for a couple afternoons but people are calling it one of the best games of all time which is just unhinged

Nintendo needs to hire more in house or second party devs to make use of their dormant IPs for smaller games. Warioland hasn't had a new game since 2008. They could probably bang out a new 2d entry for a couple million and sell it for $50 and make beaucoup bucks

>>714770536
It is though. It's incredibly fun and full of soul from start to finish.

>>714770682
>Nintendo needs to hire more in house or second party devs
They are literally doing just that. They have an entire new building being built.

>>714770723
>It is though.
It's not
>It's incredibly fun
Play more games
>and full of soul from start to finish
Nintendo games have been sterile and soulless ever since the GameCube flopped

>>714770845
oh so your just a cubietranny. got it.

>>714770461
>>714770536
>>714770370
>>714770328
I accept your tr@nnycession, pedosnoyric

>>714767564
>Would rather have the best 14 hours of my life than be moderately amused for 70 just to say it was worth the dollar.

Fucking this. I the best length for a game is around 10 to 15 hours. I fucking these 100 games, they just depress me.

>>714770795
Oh I didn't know that. Good to know that they have a plan to capitalize on the lack of AA games on the market. Hopefully they also use some of these teams to do off the wall new IPs so we can get something like Splatoon again too

>>714769651
this will be zelda in 2017...

>>714770682
Shovelware games for the low low price of $50? Oh my heckin science, sign me up!

>>714769364
>trying to sneak BotW into that list
lmao

>>714770897
Yup, they are building it right next door to their current HQ

https://mynintendonews.com/2023/08/10/nikkei-nintendos-new-development-base-will-feature-13-floors-and-wont-be-ready-now-until-after-2028/

>>714770461
I guess, but that's the C-Team stuff they put out, like Warioware and what have you.
And they should make more of those, because they're good.

>>714770845
>>714770932
>>714770985

Sametrannying won't save you, snoypedoric

>>714770536
Is the best Mario game till you finish the game, only the post game is weak.

The only Mario game you could say has a decent post game is Sunshine, and even then Odyssey is miles ahead of it, is stupid to gauge Odyssey quality on the extremely long post game.

>>714767097 (OP)
>>Nintendo announced they will start experimenting with shorter smaller games
They didn't say that. They said they are experimenting with shorter dev cycles, aka more efficient game development. Don't lie

>>714771040
>The only Mario game you could say has a decent post game is Sunshine
lmao
Sunshine sucks fucking ass

>>714770876
>>714770879
>>714771032
What is this mental illness called

>>714770895
You'll love Call of Duty

>>714771040
It falls off pretty hard after New Donk City, whereas 3D World just kept getting better and better until the climax.
Odyssey really just needed to actually become challenging at some point, which it never did.

>>714771181
>>714771095
Pedosnoyric, you lost and got raped

>>714770845
>since the GameCube flopped

>>714770723
Give it up, he is one of the millenials that is stuck on that weird paradox, they think Melee is the best smash games, 64 speed runs are fun, and Majora Mask is the best Zelda games, they been robbed of the ability to enjoy new games because they live in nostalgia forever, is like a horrible curse mark. Imaging playing Kirby and the Forgoten land and not feeling anything on that opening scene lol, Nintendo no soul, bunch of jackasses.

>>714771228
Are you having a stroke anon

>>714767097 (OP)
>Is Nintendo about to start selling Wario microgames for $80
start? they came damn close to that with warioware snapped on the DSi
>20 microgames and 5 of them require a second player
it should have been free

>>714771006
That office is primarily to reduce Nintendo's reliance on external development support, it's unknown if they will even add new internal teams, it's unknown if it's to reduce development support from just sources outside of Nintendo like Tose, or sources outside of the main offices like Monolith Soft. there's no reason to expect Nintendo will develop more games, or even current games faster.

>>714770932
Warioland is a top tier series and Pizza Tower being very successful while aping it just shows that gamers are hungry for more

>>714771040
It might be the best Mario game, but that's still not enough to qualify for "best game of all time" lists, the games just aren't ambitious enough

It's like saying Captain America Winter Soldier is the best MCU movie, likely true, but that doesn't put it into running for best movie of all time

>>714769962
>too short
It's about 8-12 hours for a first playthrough, and then there's hardmode and speedrunning. Seems perfectly fine to me as the price of a platformer where movement tech and knowledge can break the intended order via item-locking.

>>714771223
>>714771273
>>714771353

Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714770510

>Gamecube

I thought this at one point, but I recently replayed a bunch of Gamecube titles and came to the realization that what actually happened is there's around a dozen Gamecube games that are so remarkably fucking good that they carry the entirety of what is otherwise a kind of bad, unimpressive, console.

>>714771305
>That office is primarily to reduce Nintendo's reliance on external development support
This alone will result in faster developments.

>>714767097 (OP)
>invent narrative
>immediately bitch about it like it's confirmed true
seriously, there's no way you don't make those threads with chat GPT. It's too obstinate and stupid every single time to just be one stupid faggot like you, OP.

>>714771305
Monolith is wholly owned by Nintendo, they're just in house dev teams now with their old branding still

>>714771241
I'm sorry you had to grow up in a world where Nintendo was already fully immersed into its soulless sterile dentist waiting room toy era

>>714771442
There are probably like 4-5 good first party Gamecube games. The GC/GBA was incredibly dark for Nintendo.

>>714767097 (OP)
Because shitendo doesn't have the money to develop real games

>>714771223
Odyssey really needed a Galaxy 2 style sequel. The movement was genuinely the most fun since 64 and it's a shame there wasn't more done with it

>>714771509
Pedosnoyric, you lost and got raped

>>714770291
Mother 3 is one of the best JRPGs ever
BotW, memes aside, is one of the best actual open world games ever
SMT IV is one of the best SMTs ever
Bravely Default is still the Octopath studio's best game, even though OT2 came very close
DKCR is one of the best skill-based platformers ever
People will goldface or basedjack react me because it's easy to make fun of someone saying they like a popular video game, but it honestly makes you bitter and lame spewing bad faith criticisms at games you've likely played. I don't have any hate for my favorite non-Nintenbro, obviously.
>also TWEWY was just a temporary exclusive
literally every other version of TWEWY is completely borked because of the lack of dual screens, and that includes the Switch rerelease. TWEWY only makes sense on a dual screen setup.

>>714771554
Why is this snoy such a pedophile?

>>714767097 (OP)
>Nintendo spends even less on its games
>continues to sell them for $90 plus tax plus tip plus tariffs
That's a good move ngl, tendies don't care about quality anyways.

>>714767097 (OP)
>combat dev times
>somehow means it will still need 5-10 years of dev time
What do you call that kind of retardation?

>>714771790
See >>714771662

>>714771654
>Mother 3 is one of the best JRPGs ever
It's certainly unique but it's not even a top 10 JRPG for me
>BotW, memes aside, is one of the best actual open world games ever
Also not even a top 10 open world game given that it's a Ubisoft game with a Zelda skin, I hoped Nintendo would invent their own reason to make Zelda into a unique open world format like GTA has their own, TES has their own, Minecraft has its own etc but they didn't
>SMT IV is one of the best SMTs ever
I could never get into SMT so I can't comment on it
>Bravely Default is still the Octopath studio's best game, even though OT2 came very close
It felt way too derivative to me, like a game made as a reaction to the JRPG classic era rather than part of it, which meant the creative aspects suffered and they're the most important part of JRPG
>DKCR is one of the best skill-based platformers ever
True, I played it in local co-op which made it even more fun, yet that was still not enough to make it a notably memorable experience in my mind like MM or TWEWY, or other actually incredible games

>>714771821
voluntary serfdom

>>714770292
You will notice that people have spite for Nintendo because their own dopamine receptors stopped working as intended when they hit 15 years old, and that's somehow Nintendo's fault. They will hoist your childhood experiences as sacred even when you yourself realize that some of what's come afterward is clearly better.
>>714770536
It's not on my personal list of greatest ever because Mario doesn't speak to my soul like some other games do, but Odyssey is as refined and dense with quality as SM64 was in its time, and I recognize it as a fantastic game that I had a lot of fun with. It's very easy to see how someone would name it one of the best games they've played in years, but I'm more into the Xenoblades, the Zeldas, the Metroids, and the Fire Emblems myself.

>>714772034
Nobody is reading your pedophile drivel, Eric

>>714771509

Nobody asked, but I feel somewhat like this about Smashes original art direction, where everyone was "translated" into some kind of nendroid, figma, or plush, to fit with the aesthetic that you were Nintendo toys whimsically beating each other up for the amusement of the player in their room. Versus what it is now with the darker tones (literal and literary).

>>714770292
>>714771223
Mario is about movement, Sm64 and SMO are the best two Mario games because they have the best movement out of all the 3D Marios and he controls like an absolute dream and the game flows like water.
I'd much rather have a game where a character is fun to control 100% of the time with good levels than a game where a character isn't fun to control but has great levels more than halfway through. That's why if anyone praises Galaxy its NEVER for its movement or Mario Moveset and why this is the first time I've seen anyone go to bat for 3D World, which was ass until they added the movement options introduced in Odyssey.

>>714771241
>they think Melee is the best smash games, 64 speed runs are fun, and Majora Mask is the best Zelda games
nta but I believe all of these but still enjoy current Nintendo just fine. Melee has the best movement of all the Smash games but Ultimate has a huge roster and its movement is pretty good. MM is my favorite Zelda but BotW punched up into my top 3 personal favorites. Idk why liking speedruns is a bad thing.

>>714772284
>Sm64
>the best movement out of all the 3D Marios
>he controls like an absolute dream and the game flows like water
I feel like people who say shit like this haven't played SM64 since they were 8 years old, or if they did then they were too entranced by the nostalgia to notice the entire game handles like ass top to bottom in every way

>>714772284
I really like Sunshine's movement and level design. While I like Galaxy 1/2 a lot, its movement was definitely much more stilted than all of the other 3D games

>>714772460
most people who say this watch pannekoek instead of actually playing SM64. SM64 feels *surprisingly* crisp today because they got a lot right, but it's clear they've made it better since then.

>>714771442
The SNES is carried entirely by games that Nintendo didn't make, and Super Metroid.
SMW and ALTTP are super mediocre. They were barely even trying that generation.

>>714767564
Luckily for you, you’ll get neither.
Your games will be buggy, unoptimized, hallway sims that toddlers can beat, and will be 6 hours at most for $80 (any more effort and Nintendo would need to sell the game for $160!)

>>714773038
The last thing you can say about Nintendo's games is that they're buggy.
>hallway sims
And you keep screeching they are turning everything into "open world slop".
Full schizophrenic meltdown lmao

>>714772039
>>714772034
>>714773038

Pedosnoyric, that's Sony

>>714772936
On the other hand, Pikmin 1 and 2, Smash Bros Melee, Wario Land 4, Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission, and F-Zero GX (if we're going to count that as Nintendo) is some of Nintendo's best ever output, and Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, and Mario Kart Double Dash were a hell of a lot better than everyone said they were at the time.
Warioware and Rhythm Heaven were interesting new experiments, and we actually got to play Fire Emblem and Advance Wars in English.
JRPGS were being made. There was Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi, Golden Sun.

The SNES had games that weren't as good as their NES predecessors(Super Punchout), and games that weren't as good as their N64 successors(Pilotwings, Mario Kart).

>>714771446
Potentially but not definitely, they could just be replacing more staff who do few tasks with less staff who do many, but also graphics will inevitably push dev times through the roof, so relatively maybe but new gen means more resources spent on graphics.

>>714771446
They are separate, but we know that Nintendo's offices house other studios, so maybe they will just be moved into the main office, even though their offices aren't in kyoto.

>>714771305
>That office is primarily to reduce Nintendo's reliance on external development support
source?

>>714767749
>the gameplay is good and fun but that's all!
lmao the state of snoyggers

>>714774763
Movement does not make a game

>>714774763
>jumpslop
>gameplay

>>714775554
>>714775506
Eric, samefagging won't save your pedo ass

>>714775692
from what? obese unemployed brown retards on welfare?

>>714775506
>Gameplay does not make a game
Lmao get a load of this retard snoy

>>714776698
Movement = gameplay was cope invented by poor SM64 kids who were stuck with Miyamoto's movement demo that they spent too much time on to actually develop any meaningful levels

Suddenly movement was the only thing that mattered in a game, since movement was the only thing their only game had, everyone else realizes it's as retarded as claiming a good cast of actors makes a movie

>>714776938
>Movement = gameplay was cope invented by one of the best games ever made, heralded even today as the pioneer of good 3D game design
Not helping your point much there, retard snoy

>>714771006

I swear this building gets taller every time I read about it
>pushed back to 2028
Fuckin' feature creep still plaguing the software industry I see

>>714777079
>it's the best game of all time because it's the only game I had as a kid
lol

lmao even

>>714777271
Are you seriously trying to argue with me that Super Mario 64 is not one of the best and most influential games of all time? Retard snoy, is that REALLY the hill you want to die on?

>>714777645
>it's one of the best and most influential games of all time.. because I had no other games to play as a kid on the N64 that had no games
lmao

>>714777645
Is Snoy really the only insult you can think to say? Lmao you people are literal bots

>>714777820
Your god IGN, as well as many, MANY other gaming publications are in agreement with me, retard snoy

>>714778010
>muh journos said!
lmao EVERY single time

>>714776318
>>714776938
>>714777271
>>714777940
>>714777820

You got raped and gaped, snoypedo

>>714778164
>Your opinion doesn't matter!
>Journos opinion doesn't matter either!
>The general consensus across all videogame communities doesn't matter!
>Only my objectively shit taste in games matter
Classic retard snoy

>>714778164
Pedoric, you literally just defended journos a few minutes ago

Complete tendo meltdown

>please get mad
>please get mad
>please get mad

>>714778713
That's the entire point of /v/, for people to try to make other people as mad as they are.

>>714778579
Epedoric, your snoytranny cope failed ;)

>>714767681
Well yeah, no nintendo game has taken me to orgasm.

>>714777645
I didn’t play Mario 64 as a kid so I have no nostalgia for it. It’s ass. It sucks. The game is fucking terrible.

>>714767097 (OP)
>Nintendo is tired of making a super duper profit
>Gonna try and aim for ultra turbo arcade collectors edition profit

>>714779161
>I didn’t play Mario 64 as a kid
Sucks to be you, no wonder you're so bitter

>>714779161
It gets better the better you get at it. I didn't even like it that much as a kid. I though Banjo was way better. M64 holds up better than Banjo.

>>714779419
Stop pushing this bullshit narrative lmfao this s the third nintendo seethe thread in a row that someone has kept saying this objectively false statement. Game controls like shit

>>714767097 (OP)
Theyve already been doing this though. 2d Metroid, Mario, Zelda, and pokemon are all small projects

people assume this means they'll return to kino SNES/GBA era but it doesnt. we already know what they're going to do
>make games like odyssey and botw that can be beaten very easily
>if you want to you can go out of your way to access secrets with half-decent level design (unlike the main campaign) or collect meaningless shit
we're going to get a million more echoes of wisdoms but you fags probably liked that game

>>714779579
>Game controls like shit
It objectively doesn't, as pointed out by the media at the time, the media today, the fans, and even people of today that revisit the game and find themselves in awe of the freedom of movement that you have with Mario In that 3D space. The only mechanic of Mario 64 that is generally agreed upon to have aged poorly is the camera.

But please, keep losing your marbles and rewriting history over this long-settled debate for this 30 year old game, retard snoy.

>>714779836
Eric, your snoytranny cope failed

>>714772284
Sunshines movement is the best. Odysseys is pretty good but dive jump is basically the solution to everything and then you need to occasionally do a boring capture mechanic that takes you out of the good default movement. And honestly movement is really all odyssey has going for it.

>>714780113
>the camera in a 3d platformer, which is the most important part of the game sucks
>but Mario 64 doesn’t because Nintendo is my friend
If I had a wish it would be to give tendies a moment of clarity so that they’d kill themselves en masse.

>>714780220
It didn"t "suck", I said it aged poorly, reading comprehension, retard snoy, the people back then didn't mind the camera because it was a first for the time, the people of today acknowledge that It's inferior to how the camera is handled by modern platformers, but that still doesn' mean it's bad.

Also, calm your seething, nobody here is wishing death upon anyone.

>>714780113
People bitch too much about the camera. I like how it takes care of itself and (generally) goes where it needs to go.
Moden games don't even bother with that. They expect you to tweek the camera constantly.

>>714778010
Why is tlou and botw snot slop on there?

>>714780452
Because they're both good games?

>>714780216
>>714780220
>>714780452
You failed and got dilated

>>714767097 (OP)
I hate the fact that seeing the thumbnail I immediately thought of the Krillin cuck copypasta

>>714780387
People during the time also didn’t mind resident evil’s shit fucking controls either. No one looks back fondly and tries to argue the tank controls are good. That’s what you cultist tendies do though.

>>714780656
Resident Evil doesn't have shit controls, and fixed cameras are superior for atmosphere.
You're a babby who can only stomach games that are downstream from Halo. That's a you problem.

>>714780137
>snoys
>deckies
>PC vegans
>eric
how many boogeymen do ninpedos have?

>>714780771
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714780656
>Comparing clunky controls relating to MOVEMENT that feel completely unintuitive and unresponsive for a game that legimitaley aged poorly jn every aspect to a simple nitpick of CAMERA control that still adjusts itself accordingly and rarely needs to be manually fixed for a game that otherwise has aged beautifully according to everyone
Not your brightest comparison, retard snoy.

>>714780749
lol I have no idea what I expected when talking to a tendie. Just know that you didn’t disappoint.

>>714780925
He's defending Resident Evil 1, a PS exclusive, retard snoy

>>714780925
Explain how it has shit controls. You can walk forward, you can walk backward, you aim and shoot. It gives you everything the game requires.
>it doesn't play like Halo!
yes, I know.

I'll take those controls over any modern game that wants me to click the stick in to sprint. That shit is obnoxious.

>>714780925
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714780113
>the media tells me so, therefore it is the truth
The media just told everyone there was no Epstein list and that he killed himself, bet you believe that as well

>>714780387
>it was a first for the time
No it wasn't

>>714776938
I’d rather replay SM64 levels and learn to use Mario’s moveset for skillful freeform routing than run through one of the setpiece hallways in Gaylaxy and Astroslop
I’m not even that into Nintendo, SM64 is just still one of the best 3D platformers to this day if you enjoy getting into mechanical autism with games
There’s a reason people have made whole internet careers just focusing on it, and it’s not just nostalgia (even if that is a big part of it)

>>714781125
Please turn off your automated spambot that keeps replying to itself.

>>714781551
>There’s a reason people have made whole internet careers just focusing on it
Severe autism

>>714780406
Nigga you’ve got that completely backwards
Old games used to let you control the camera in all situations while modern “games” constantly wrestle control of it from you so they can show you a big epic scripted animation or some other shit

>>714781350
I experienced the game myself before learning of the media, or youtubers opinions about it, it feels good to know that my opinion was validated by so many people, but the general point is that Mario 64 is universally considered a timeless masterpiece, no matter how much you cope, seethe, and cry over it, retard snoy.

Also please don't out yourself as an off-topic conspirationist in a videogame board.
>>>/pol/

>>714781558
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714781757
>the other kids that also had no other games to play except SM64 also coped themselves into thinking it was actually amazing since it was the only game they had on a system with no games
Oof, whatever helps you sleep at night sweaty

Snoy thread.
Ignore.

>>714781757
Lmao Jesus fuck anon, I feel bad for talking shit to you. Didn’t know you were this pathetic. Sorry bud.

>>714781454
>No it wasn't
Show me player-dictated, independent 3D Camera controls before Mario 64, I'll wait.

>>714781850
Stop it.
Turn off the spambot and actually speak to me.

>>714781865
>>714781971
>>714782000
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714781987
Doom

>>714782104
Turn off the spambot.

>>714781865
>Most of the gaming sphere out there apparently only had an N64 with Mario 64 when they were kids
Didn't the PlayStation become the best selling system during that generation? I wonder where the countless gamers that grew up with it because they could ONLY afford the PSX went to? Why aren't they talking about their platforming "masterpieces" like Crash, Spyro or... Croc?

>>714781971
>>>/pol/

>>714782178
>>714782112
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

clean it up jannies

>>714768880
>games for 30 bucks
It will be 80 bucks + tip, goy!

>>714782112
That game doesn't have "player-dictated, independent 3D Camera controls", retard.

>>714782241
Crash and Spyro aged far better than Mario slop 64.

>>714782272
Please turn off the spambot.

>>714782353
It does

>>714767097 (OP)
These games will also be full of AI.
Enjoy.

>>714782331
>>714782373
>>714782402
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714782373
Lol, lmao, get a look at this snoy retard.

>>714782417
No, it doesn't, lying faggot.

>>714767097 (OP)
Portal 1 & 2 and Half Life are short and thrive because of that. Granted Valve knew how much to charge for them (and they always go on sale). The Nintendo tax is what kills this. Mario Kart World isnt worth $80, nor is it even worth $70. it is worth $60

>>714782448
Look!
It's a Nintendo Switch 2 system seller!

>>714767681
>advance filtered

>>714782439
>>714782417
>>714782626

Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714771373
rightism is a metal illness the cure is lobotomy. Only then will you no longer be a raging incel still be an incel tho

are we gonna act like nintendo hasn't already been making mario party minigames into full games for a long time?

>>714782709
hey chud see >>714782729

lel this thread may have the largest concentration of schizos to date

>>714782451
Lmao you cultists never disappoint.

Hey guys, let's try to get his spambot to react to stuff!

>>714782241
Americans overwhelmingly fell for the "muh brand" meme and got Nintendos for their kids not knowing the console literally has no games, it's the only region in the world that bought N64s, not even Japan wanted them, everyone else got PS1s

Sadly America being a nation of opinionated loudmouths also meant they led the gaming discourse for decades, both offline and online, which shaped the current version of game "history", according to which Banjo was a huge success while Croc was an unknown flop, despite both games selling the same amount of copies

>>714782774
>He's now going after the Mario spin-offs
Mario Tennis has been a thing since the Game Boy, faggot.

>>714782602
Those games combined don't even have half the sales of breath of the wild. Valve needs to sit down and listen when their betters are explaining game design, they might learn something.

>>714782843
There you are.
Why have you set up a spambot?
You know you can't do that.
Please stop.

>>714767097 (OP)
I think the 7th gen of consoles instated a really horrible mindset that everything NEEDS to be some 8+ hour game at minimum when a lot of great games can be blown through in about 2 hours and are infinitely replayable because of that. Of course, prices should be adjusted to reflect that but as if.

>>714782439
I mean AI generated code I think is fine. Most visual assets shouldn't be AI generated. Placement of certain textures is fine. I wont have a stroke if the game im playing had the length of blades of grass generated by an AI

Muh sales

>>714782881
So Nintendo has been charging full price for minigames since the Gameboy? Cool.

>>714782729
>>714782828
>>714782843
>>714782846
>>714782852
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714782954
>Those games combined don't even have half the sales of breath of the wild
holy shit that depress me...

>>714782971
>>714783038
>>714783054
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714782954
Breath of the Wild doesn't have half the sales of RDR2, Nintendo needs to sit down and listen when their betters are explaining game design, they might learn something.

We need to stop the spambot, but how?

>it's another eric falseflags as a tendie for the entire thread episode
yawn

>>714782852
Then show me your top popular bongs talking about the "masterpieces" of Crash and Spyro, you do realize the internet can be accessed by everyone worldwide right? Including 4chan, which also happen to feature a lot of seething bongs complaining about burgers all the time. While you're on that, show me japs hating on Mario 64, I'm sure you're going to have a field day with that.

Also, jeets are No. 1 now, so your point falls even flatter, those faggots did NOT grow up with Mario 64.

>>714782843
>Name calling
Yep, concession accepted

>>714783058
you lost the culture war, either kill urself or move on. This obsession isn't doing anything but deteriorating ur mental state

>>714783224
We can scare him using Mini-Pauline.

>>714782982
Nintendo will only charge you $60 for those two hour games. Don’t wanna devalue their product after all.

>>714783171
Lmao man I love RDR2. Not only is it a great game but it blew tendies who spent all of 2017 bragging out metacritic and sales the fuck out. Then they refuse to admit it’s the better game despite using their own metrics.

You lost and got raped eric.

>>714783171
>>714783151
>>714783210
>>714783224
>>714783350
Snoypedoric, you lost and got raped

>>714783363
if someone starts whinging about tendie pedos you know it's him lol

>>714783593
I know that.

>>714783527
so whats erics deal? do we know what mental illness he has?

>>714767097 (OP)
They can downsize in other ways. No game needs a 100+ development team. No game needs to be photorealistic.

>>714767097 (OP)
>>Nintendo announced
Got a link to this announcement?

>>714770536
I don’t think Nintendo will ever have a game considered one of the greatest of all time until they focus more on story

>>714767097 (OP)
Fucking retard. They are on the right direction with gaming, budgets and devtimes are literally THE fucking problem with gaming right now. It's why you never see many AA developers anymore because now you need 1200 gorillion dollars to make a single fucking game across 8 years.
>and take 5-10 years to develop anyways
Not true, depends on the size and scale of the game, not a rule. The goal is to make games take less time and money to make and you're here whining "WAAAAAH CHARGE ME MORE PLEASE NO I WANT GAMES TO STAY UNAFFORABLE EVERYTHING IS POINTLESS REEEE!"

Either think of an outcome where you would be happy or shut the fuck up you whiny little faggot.

>>714783298
>Then show me your top popular bongs talking about the "masterpieces" of Crash and Spyro, you do realize the internet can be accessed by everyone worldwide right? Including 4chan, which also happen to feature a lot of seething bongs complaining about burgers all the time. While you're on that, show me japs hating on Mario 64, I'm sure you're going to have a field day with that.

The internet was overwhelmingly American for too long since that's where it originated, and also I already mentioned no one else really gives a fuck about products and brands that much like opinionated loud Americans, for example the USA is still the only place in the world that has a fucking caste system (especially in young people) based on if you have an iPhone or not which manifests in the form of green or blue bubbles in the SMS app, everywhere else on the planet people just buy the best phone for the value and get a dedicated messaging app, people outside the US just don't worship products and media that much to base their entire identities around them

>>714784196
So Euros are not as much of the first world as you faggots made us believe? Either that or they're just such a minuscule part of the population that their opinions of gaming have always been irrelevant, and therefore the idea that the overall, universal consensus across all gaming outlets and gamers out there of Mario 64 being one of the best games of all time remain true.

Kek, nice going, also good to know that your third world shithole that actually grew up with a PSX because they couldn't afford anything else doesn't have a voice either, macaco.

>>714783034
I think generic assets can be generated. Like devs already use asset packs for plants and rocks and shit so it's not much different

>>714784960
PSX gaming was more expensive than N64 since there were actually games you had to buy instead of getting an N64+Mario/Zelda bundle and that being the full extent of your library

>>714773038
>Your games will be buggy, unoptimized
Perhaps play on real hardware, and not on a shitty emulator you dumb faggot.

>>714786963
Emulators generally have MORE fixes than official hardware

>>714783721
We'd assume Paranoid schizophrenia
He believes every poster is the same person but at the same time thinks that "one other person" doesn't know he's making multiple replies to himself and constantly falseflagging using the same wording and language.
It's very likely he's actually just an idiot.

>>714788057
I think he is fully aware of what he is doing.
It's all on purpose.

>>714788437
So you think its a larp?

>>714788437
Oh, a masochist.
He enjoys being mocked and belittled.

>>714788549
Yes.
He is currently spamming threads on the catalog.

>>714788563
No, I don't think he even cares about that.
I think his backstory about the Wii U is fake.
I also think he is not actually a PlayStation fan.

>>714767097 (OP)
>Their games are already on the super low end of value for your money
stopped reading there. you're actually retarded.

>>714788737
The way it usually goes is simply making the worst arguments possible, any facts of them are secondary, and push the thread into an argument about them by replying all and doing whatever it takes to make discussion impossible.
That's the goal, not to actually win any arguments or make any kind of point, just prevent discussion for what you don't like.
Pretty sure it would only take ID's to stop that kind of shitposting.

>>714767097 (OP)
>more than 60 hours in Mario Odyssey and Kirby. already replayed both so 120 hours each in total
>more than 100 hours in Xenoblade 1 and FE Engage.
>more than 150 in Xenoblade X, still unfinished
>more than 200 hours in Xenoblade 2, 3 and FETH. replaying FETH so you can add another 100 hours to it.
>more than 400 hours in Pokémon SV, still playing it.
>super low value for your end
yes, what is really good value for our money are games like Uncharted or TLOU that you can finish in 30 or so hours and never touch it again because they're just not even fun to replay.

Anyone else have anti-Nintendo fatigue?

>>714767749
You are a fucking moron who can't read.

Nintendo fans are happy eating sewage if it has Mario or Pokemon in it. They're beyond saving.

>b-but Sony
Helldivers 2 is better than any Nintendo game from the past 10 years.

>uhhhh that's not a Sony game!
third party games are better than any Nintendo trash and 99% of PlayStation and Xbox games. But Nintendo fans wouldn't know cause they don't get all the popular games normal people are playing.

>>714789860
What games do you like anon? Be specific. No answers along the lines of " tendie slop."

>>714789994
*not tendie slop

>>714767749
The movement being fun in a 3D platformer is half the fucking game lmao

>>714790086
Stop spamming the catalog.

Sorry, I saw the word "tendie" and I thought it was him.
My apologies.

>>714786129
>PSX gaming was more expensive than N64
Stating blatant lies now, retard snoy?

>since there were actually games you had to buy
Such as? You already talked shit of Resident Evil, faggot, what does that say about other poorly aged games like FFVII and MGS?

>>714789860
You.
Why are you spamming the catalog?

>>714790151
>>714790359
Is "bumping a thread" "spamming the catalog"?

>>714790601
No.
I think you are spamming NSFW threads on the catalog.

Tendies are actually fucking losing it ITT holy shit lmao

Is this what tying your identity to a franchise and then that franchise cratering in quality does to people? They're a hair away from starting a death cult

>>714790946
We won and got hugged.
Please stop spamming NSFW threads on the catalog every time something doesn't go your way.
Please stop hating on Mini-Pauline.
Please stop being mean to other Anons.

>>714789994
many Capcom games
a decent number of games now under Xbox (Machine Games stuff, Doom, even Avowed)
various Warhammer 40k shooters
GTA V, Forza Horizon, other open world driving
Sony stuff like God of War, Helldivers, Horizon Zero Dawn
Death Stranding
FF 7 Remake and Rebirth
Expedition 33
Ninja Gaiden 2 Black and hopefully NG4
Bayonetta 1 and 2
Dishonored, Prey 2017, Deus Ex

>>714790946
>They're a hair away from starting a death cult
Imagine lacking this much self awareness

>>714793380
What if the big snoy is behind all of these videos?

>>714790946
>They're a hair away from starting a death cult

>>714793534
What if the big snoy is mind-controlling the masses?

>>714793380
>>714793534
>talk about quality
>desperate tendie mind IMMEDIATELY deflects to sales
Dear god it's even worse than I imagined, someone should send suicide watch over to these anons houses asap

>>714771241
broken english esl pajeet adores slop. more news at 11.

>>714767097 (OP)
>trust me bro this game really is worth 80$
>well, I still don't think I'll be buying it
>wait, we'll give you a smaller game we put less effort in for 75$
>well slap a red hat on me and call me Mario!

>>714768232
They hated him because he told the truth.
Nintendo does not know art direction anymore. Odyssey had schizophrenic art direction, but was fine to look at. Bananza is just a disgusting looking game.

>>714793805
>>desperate tendie mind IMMEDIATELY deflects to sales
>neither post mentions sales
schizo?

>>714771509
>posts the 2nd best 3D mario game
ok?

>>714779161
>I didn’t play Mario 64 as a kid
we can tell lmao zoomy faggot tendies hang yourself

>>714793805
where did either of those posts mention sales?

>>714794232
Donkey Kong Bananza is not disgusting.

>>714767097 (OP)
I think they mean like 20 hour games, which was the norm 15 years ago. Now if a game doesn't have 60 hours of bloat its considered short. The 1 hour=1 dollar thing is really dumb

>>714767097 (OP)
The bar is so low for Nintendo, just above the Earth’s core.

>>714767385
The fact that you can buy an infinite amount of moons in the post-game really ruined Odyssey for me. I was like, why even bother doing anything? It's pointless if you can just unlock shit right away with no strings attached.

>>714783363
What's the context with the kid pauline posting? Does it piss him off?

>>714796631
Apparently it does.
One time, he got really angry at one of the Mini-Pauline posts.

>>714796102
What's wrong with pickles?

>>714796852
Autistic people can't stand them

>>714796942
I like them a lot though.

>>714767097 (OP)
>"These small low budget games are going to be $80!!"
Is this the new snoy cope of the week?

>>714797161
Seems like it

>>714796102
Same, that was so fucking bullshit. At first i also thought "oh, i guess they added 10 more moons in each shop? Guess I'll buy those" turns out i basically bought easy mode

>>714796942
Oi leave the potato waffles alone

>>714793534
KEK just existing makes them seethe