Physicalbros...it's over...

>>714778218 (OP)
I find it somewhat ironic that at one point everyone was for digital media. People were so focused on having everything digital because of "convenience", but now that companies are becoming scumbags and are making us not own our games or just having everything be always online, people are flocking back to physical media.

>>714780939
Digital games were more convinient but most importantly cheaper. Now? I can buy a physical game cheaper than from Steam, even with a Steam sale going on.

The obsession with physical games is silly because physical media itself is a form of DRM.

>>714778218 (OP)
Thank God physical is finally dead, now I can permanently duck out of gaming and only focus on playing my backlog of older titles from now on.

>>714781427
Yeah, owning anything is technically DRM. What if your house burns down? What if you die? Poof! All gone! Money stolen! Retard.

Once physical games die I'm giving up gaming.

>>714781362
I doubt that you can buy a physical modern game for less money compared to buying it on Steam with a steam sale. Older games, sure, but modern? I doubt that.

I think that we just focused too much on "convenience" and we didn't stop to think that these guys could just wipe our games and not be legally liable.

>>714781679
Bro if you have a physical copy of a game without the appropriate hardware to use it, that shit becomes a paperweight. Physical media is just another barrier between you and the actual game itself.

>>714778218 (OP)
Only retards bought those fake versions to begin with. If tards had common sense and refused to buy them, this shit wouldn't exist. Same goes for dlc and season passes and microtransaction fuckery.

>>714778218 (OP)
>what is doesitplay
somehow I always forget that 99% of humans are retarded cattle faggots that just consooom and never do any research before making smart purchase decisions
>>714781427
ok luddite
>your DRM
stored on valve/sony servers
>my DRM
literally on my shelf, if you weren't a fatass pclard you would be able to reach it easily by detaching yourself from the cuck chair
>>714781559
>t. rentoid
silence rakesh
>>714781708
you are here forever btw

any post after this is gay and cringe

>>714778218 (OP)
There are more physical releases coming out now than anytime else in gaymin history.

>>714778218 (OP)
Only boomers and autistic people care about physical media.

>>714781427
You can't take away a physical copy but you can take away a digital one, not that hard to understand

Call me crazy but I kind of like the idea of having a physical bookshelf of cases to look at and browse, then immediately jack in and play without actually removing it.
Only thing I wish would improve is the general design of cases.

>>714781823
why would you buy a game for a console you don't have? what kind of weird zoomer logic is this?

>>714782141
not if i pirated it

>>714782141
Steam suddenly taking away all of your games and you losing them forever is about as likely as your house burning down and destroying all of your things.

>>714782458
To play the game at all requires buying into expensive hardware that you may or may not even want to begin with.

I say these things as someone that generally prefers owning physical copies of games. I actually like the feedback that comes with having cases, carts, and CDs. But the digital media boogeyman is also kind of silly.

Has been for awhile.

>bbbuh doesitgay.org??

I anticipate all my shelf ornaments being useless if the servers go and you should too.

But also consider this. Even consoles where you have the physical game in it's entirety, how often do you use that physical game if you have it at all. If you want to play a PS2 or Gamecube game you either hack a Wii or use PCSX2 or whatever. The average person isn't paying $100 for a 20+ year old game disc. And the same will be true later.

Also, Xbox 360 and PS3 are still perfectly functional online with Xbox 360 even getting a dashboard update within the last month. It will be many many years before you'll need to resort this.

>>714781821
Elden Ring Elrdtree edition is 60€ while on PC it’s 80€, not on sale. If you were to buy the base game which is on sale (36€) and the DLC separately (40€) you can get it down to 76€. Still more expensive for less.

>game comes out
>play it
>when done sell it for $10 off
digitalfags have no response to this

>>714783724
They just call us poor. I sold like 5k worth of my physical collection back in 2015. Still buying physical at deeper discounts then are ever offered digitally plus i can sell for a few dollars. Just bought my son his first physical game for $9.99.

>>714782671
you're brown

>>714781427
That's what people have trouble understanding, they think correlation = causation, a physical copy doesn't protect you if the DRM involves your game phoning home.

I think it's nuts they'd waste an entire UHD Blu-Ray just to force you to download the entire game anyway.

>>714784810
>a physical copy doesn't protect you if the DRM involves your game phoning home.
Phoning home from what? I only play offline.

>>714778218 (OP)
Every MVG game is the same. Him waffling on for 10-20 minutes with no point.

>>714778218 (OP)
But at least some ugly grifter can make a YouTube video.

>>714784935
Xbox games rarely use UHD Blu Ray, the discs are meant to be read in all available Xbox consoles right now, even an old ass Xbox One, as it only serves as key to start a download.

It is a PS5 discs that are more likely to be UHD Blu Rays, they do contain data on the disc but only start the installation process, but it can be an offline process.

>>714784435
based, literally do the same all the time, my entire game library is physical, all my single player games are bought on deep discounts for nothing and sold for either roughly the same, or for a very little profit, if I decide to be a jew

>>714785006
Any game with denuvo for example, needs to contact a central server. If the company decides to remove your copy, you have nothing but a useless piece of plastic.

>>714785061
>Every MVG game is the same
I didn't know he made narrative games where he talks to the player for 20 minutes.

>>714778218 (OP)
Yes, physical games have been dying since Xbox live arcade was a thing

>>714785290
console games do not use Denuvo

>>714785365
Video*. Sorry, brainfart.

>>714785290
What physical copy game comes with denuvo right now? Which was what the post commented on. I know they are trying to work on a version to sell to console manufacturers, but so far it hasn't been implemented.

>>714778218 (OP)
Street Fighter gets so many patches and DLC is not even worth it buying it physical.

>>714778218 (OP)
I was over when nintendo announced fake cartridges

>>714785591
you can run an offline local on it if you are so inclined

Physical gaming is not dead.

>>714781362
This is the case because brick and mortar stores had a fit when Steam's sales were too good early on. Flash sales were an alternate solution, but then customers bitched when they missed them. Now we're in this shitty state where are too many sales so they can all afford to be bad.

>>714778218 (OP)
if games are to be digital only then their price should be cut in half since theres no more media production and distribution chain costs

>>714785663
Any company that uses that shit was already putting codes in the box before, nothing changed

>>714783724
Why? You might as well pay for Game Pass. It will be cheaper in the long run.

>>714785910
Not true, just look at capcom, square and sega.

>>714785838
Steam and other store fronts are still taking 30%

>>714778218 (OP)
Now that we have a mature digital vidya landscape and I never have to buy another game not on my own schedule because of my massive throbbing library and backlogs I don't give much of a fuck. Thanks, publishers, for pushing me down this path. I owe you one, as long as it's not paying more than 20 bucks for your computer games, suckers.

People defending digitoid nonsense are so braindead.

>>714786023
nobody is stopping them from selling outside steam

>>714786023
You're assuming devs get the remaining 70%. This is a breakdown of physical copies, but you can just group when Steam's 30% covers. Devs, unless they self-publish and own all the rights, get tiny percentage from every sale.

>>714786173
>just barely over 10% profit
jesus

>>714786130
And outside steam they still get 30% unless you have a deal with epic etc. Or you then make your own storefront where you carry the cost of that.

>>714786173
Cool, steam and other storefronts are still taking their 30%

I just refuse to buy digital. If I am I can never get any money back, once you buy a digital game you can never resell it, the company makes 100% of what you spent.

With a physical game, at least I have the option of re-selling it once I finish playing it. The industry wants to eliminate them not because digital games are more convenient and everyone has an internet connection to download them now. It's because they don't have to spend the money manufacturing and shipping physical games, and as an added bonus the people that buy a digital asset can't re-sell it thus the publisher / dev doesn't have to worry about a fraction of their profits being circulated in the form of used game sales which they don't make any money from.

>Buy a physical copy of a new release game for $70 that I want to play
>Play the game to completion, platinum it on my PS5
>Put it on ebay for $55-60, sells within a few days of listing it
>Get to play a new game at release for basically $15

>>714785794
Steam grew by selling publisher's games for next to nothing. And publishers allowed it because up until that point they were making $0 off their back catalogs. But then they realised that the price for games was becoming $5-10, so addicted were Steam's userbase to cheap games that selling new releases for $40 was impossible. So they told Gaben he wasn't getting any more $1 infinite keys for shit and prices had to rise to accommodate. And then they raised the price of new games to $50, then $60 and now $70+Digital Deluxe Edition tax so that they can "discount" for the many sales to bring it down to a price that would have been too expensive years ago but is now "good." And it fucking worked.
/v/ anons proudly display their summer sale baskets of $20+ "sale" trash and ask if they should buy AAA-slop for $35 because it's never cheaper than that.

>>714782458
Sure, you can play it on the console, but you can't make a backup of it or read it on generic hardware.
>>714782141
If they can take away files stored on your HDD, then they can take away files on a disc.

>>714787271
>>714785921

>>714778218 (OP)
>(game) saved my life…
>(game) broke me…
>it’s over… (game) sucks…
>(game) is actually good?!
>10 things I HATE about (game)!

>>714788492
>If they can take away files stored on your HDD, then they can take away files on a disc.
How are they going to do that on my offline console?

>>714788682
Look at the adjective.

>>714780939
>I find it somewhat ironic that at one point everyone was for digital media
I love my isos and roms that were dumped and decrypted
fuck your DRM and digital serfdom

>>714785921
Yeah, replace your ability to buy and choose what you want and resell it for market value with a service you have to subscribe to that chooses a selection on your behalf for a length of time you don't control. Great idea.

>>714778218 (OP)
They aren't "fake", devs just can't stuff all the data on even a bluray anymore. Blame the physical disc and cart manufacturers. If anything, we SHOULD be seeing a savings on game keycards, devs don't pay as much, so our games at retail SHOULD be cheaper. But they will never be.

>>714788708
>How are they going to do that on my offline console?
Digital certificates. Anything past PS3 is cryptographically signed and the OS won't load something that doesn't have a valid signature. The PS3 also accepts updates from discs, same as the PS4 and PS5 and no doubt switch 2. So *if* they wanted to invalidate your physical offline copy of stellar blade, they absolutely could release a certificate revocation that comes along on your brand new copy of Death Stranding 2 that you put into your offline console completely unaware. And once the cert revocation list is installed, short of a major OS exploit, you ain't fixing it. Bang, your physical game is now a paperweight until you connect your console to the internet to get the Sony-California approved patch.
They haven't pulled the trigger on this yet. But they absolutely have the power to do so. We saw that for a fact when the PS3 had that leap day bug that marked every cert on your system as invalid for a day.

>>714782363
Nah, I want Complete Editions of every game with dlc. Nintendo is TERRIBLE with this, Smash Ult and MK8 will always be base versions, even less 1.0 off the cart in the future.

>>714790005
>They aren't "fake", devs just can't stuff all the data on even a bluray anymore
Yes, they are "fake." If they can't fit it on 1 disc, use 2 discs. If you are unwilling to do that, you should be required to inform the customer that you've release a fake physical, which Nintendo at least does force publishers to do. Microsoft does not, and Sony seems to be more of a "we'd like you to, but we won't force you to."
FF7R comes on 2 discs on PS4. PS5 games can come on 128GB 4-layer discs. Size is no excuse, it's just down to cheap publishers fucking you over and the willingness for sony/microsoft/nintendo to willingly allow 0.5beta releases to be burned to cart/disc for sale with a mandatory day 0 patch to bring it up to 1.0release.

>>714790160
Nintendo sometimes puts out patched games onto carts. You buy BotW as a reprint it's not the same as the guy who bought the day 1.

>>714782826
you also need to buy expensive pieces for your PC that you will only ever use for gaming. at least with consoles you get a 10 year shelf life and it's the developers who have to figure out how to make it run, not me.

>>714783724
Pirate or wait for a sale.

>>714791229
>pirate
I'm white and have a job
>sale
Takes too long

>>714791462
>white
>doesn't have patience
Post hand

>>714790160
>MK8 will always be base version
https://gbatemp.net/threads/mario-kart-8-deluxe-with-all-dlc-on-cartridge.671390/

>>714792734
>on disk dlc