>Capcom has announced the cancellation of a planned lecture on Monster Hunter Wilds’ optimization at Japan’s CEDEC 2025 (Computer Entertainment Developers Conference). This decision likely has to do with harassment and targeted threats its staff has been facing over Monster Hunter Wilds’ performance issues.

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/capcom-cancels-lecture-about-monster-hunter-wilds-optimization-as-devs-face-threats-and-harassment/

lol

>make shit game you can't fix due to incompetence
>claim harassment to excuse yourself
>never fix the game (game will still be shit even with performance fixes)

Lol

>>714778945 (OP)
Based
Poor people should not play video games

>>714778945 (OP)
They didn't get enough heat for the shit performance.

>>714778945 (OP)
shills won't like this

Runs fine on my PS5

>>714778945 (OP)
>lecture on Monster Hunter Wilds' optimization
What optimization?

>>714778945 (OP)
>Have no performance issues on my old laptop
>have no performance issues on my new rigs
>see on /v/ having issues on his "super high end pc"
>ask specs
>he has dogshit
???

>by using FSR4 or DLSS we hope to reduce CPU bottlenecking
WAT

>While Capcom did not officially specify the reason for the cancellation
Shit article trying to create a narrative, and burn in hell for no pastebin

Crapcom jeets will slide this thread

>>714779624
Oh no, its retarded. I wonder what happened to this company, remember when all of their PC ports ran on Potatos? When even DMC5 ran smooth as butter on what was at the time, the lower end cards? Now we get 30 fps, if that, on cards and CPU that should be getting 120 fps on other games and they are using AI upscalers to "reduce CPU bottleneck", when those AI upscalers are the fucking cause of that. Is the entire company made up of Pajeets that think DLSS is just free frames?

>>714779978
I think something happened at Capcom internally. I can't tell when but when Itsuno dipped I knew it was bad.

>just use frame gen to get 60fps bro!
fuck capcom and fuck wilds

>>714779614
who believe that shit?

>>714779624
>a game with literally only 12 actual models on screen at any given time is having CPU bottlenecks
Does that shit run on python or what?

>>714779549
they had to cancel it when they remembered this part

>All monsters are shit
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>No endgame
>No Elder Dragons
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No challenge
>No MH language
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>714780830
the shitty rock models they used that looks like somebody vomited onto a canvas have like 40,000 polygons

we've gotten to the point that devs are outsourcing asset creation and then dropping them in their games and their games not running because they're poorly made assets

>>714779448
They are already in full damage control claiming that everybody is poor

>>714780830
I think they moved over from C++ to C# with Re

>>714778945 (OP)
>don't optimize game
>people complain
>WELL WE WERE GONNA OPTIMIZE THE GAME BUT SINCE YOU COMPLAINED ABIUT IT BEING UNOPTIMIZED NOW WE WONT
sure capcom..... Sure....

>>714778945 (OP)
Fuck that's brilliant how come i've never seen any studio use that get-out-of-jail-free card before

since dogma 2 and exoprimal, re engine rapes your cpu no matter what hardware you have. pc, home console, handheld, etc.

>>714778945 (OP)
>Capcom lecturing anyone on optimization
Hypocritical, especially considering their recent updates. The burden of optimization lies with the developers, not the consumers.

>>714779614
Ill take things that never happened for 100

>>714781067
>Have 3000 dollar computer that at the time was top of the line
>will likely drop another 3k on a new build within the next 2 years and make my old computer into a dedicated media machine/server
>Still have no want to get anything shat out by CRAPcom
They can shut the fuck up. Gaming will only get better when the "old guard" are dead. Capcom, Namco, SE. All of them must go under and serve as an example to every single developer going forwards what happens to companies that forget how to actually make games in the pursuit of pure profit.

>>714781292
>RE engine
>Resident Evil engine
>it works well on Resident Evil (RE)
>doesn't work well for anything else
No fucking shit
Verification not fucking required

>>714779614
ignoring performance doesn't mean there aren't issues present, esl.
I have a 4090/9800x3d and the game runs like total ass. Nothing justifies how big of a performance hog wilds is, the game isn't pushing any boundaries and looks decent at best. The fact that it shoves frame generation in your face is all you need to know, really.

>>714781292
Remake2 despite all the retard cocksuckers saying it "runs like magic" uses an inordinate amount of CPU processing power

>>714779614
>>Have no performance issues on my old laptop
Translation: "I have no standards and I'm a third worlder."

>>714781457
Worked on DMC5 and MHR.

>>714781529
That's post gaytracing update, the original version runs well

>>714781621
funfact: dmc1 started off as a fork of resident evil engine game. so its only natural it fits at home with re engine.

mh rise is a switch game and you can feel it in the pc port how hunts are trains ride in length.

>>714781621
MHR isn't a graphical marvel, but I rather have a working game with readability, than a game that looks like you are asking chatgpt to turn RE5 into an MH game in real time.

>>714778945 (OP)
Based, fuck Crapcom

>>714781912
>hunts are trains ride in length
which monster hunter does this not apply to

I hope Capcom fucking dies in my lifetime.

>>714778945 (OP)
deserved

>>714780960
The 3ds slop still exists
But close

Buy a better computer losers
Game runs fine on my 4090 and never dips below 30

>>714782268
Hopefully they kill you first pablo

>>714780960
I hope Capcom only shits out turds like Wilds going forward solely to spite you.

>>714782192
there's a clear difference between the portable series (rise/portable3rd/gu/etc) to the other games. the portable ones are downgraded heavily in gameplay and graphics.

>>714778945 (OP)
Re engine is so shit it's triggering safety concerns for their developers. When are they going to make an actual game engine.

>>714782547
This but unironically
You don't need more than 30fps for mh
We veteran used to play these games at 25fps at 480p on tendie machine back then

this is actually somewhat old news
I believe the latest update crashed and actually killed some bigwig streamer's rig (though it was probably half intlels fault), along with crashing a bunch of smaller streamers
there was also an RTA event announced sponsored by intelaviv which further fueled "crash RTA tournament" memes
they claimed a 90% reduction in their anti-cheat solution along with claiming it doesn't check per-frame, so everyone is confused why they still can't optimize for shit
on their Japanese roadmap, I believe it seemed like they intended to further nerf more weapons
there was also something about not being able to relocate the equipment box external to the tent, as if their spaghetti code would blow up when they tried

the JP side is hilarious, and you'd never hear this from the western side

>>714778945 (OP)
Death threats over video game, it's never that serious
I thought the Japanese mostly played on Playstation where this is a nonissue anyways

>>714782653
>>714782669
SAARRRS PLZ RETURN TO WILDS PLZ SAAAARRR

>>714782791
mmmm no i dont think so

>>714782914
That is delicious

>>714781621
DMC5 is a game developed targeting 2013 hardware, Monster Hunter Rise is a game developed targeting spiritually 2006 hardware.

>WE ARE VICTIMS
>BUY OUR GAME
nahhhh

>>714782791
this headcanon again.
What game exactly downgraded Unite, 3rd, 3U, 4, 4U, G/U?

World had the same shit optimization on PC on release. It took them about 3 years to finally make it ok.

>>714780960
also worth mentioning that the underwater combat fails to appease even those who actually liked underwater combat

>>714783264

saus

>>714779624
They probably mean CPU overhead.

>>714778945 (OP)
I thought the nips are polite and respectful, what happened?

>>714778945 (OP)
I came here to laugh at the retards who bought the game

>>714783608
>Not immediately recognizing Agata's artstyle
Disgusting.

>>714783813
But I had fun playing it.

>>714780967
but polies and textures are not the cpu's job.

>>714778945 (OP)
Does that debacle confirms monster hunter will be a nintendo focused franchise in the future? Nintendo fans eats anything after all...

>>714783813
I'm at 200 hours and not tired of it yet. I got my money's worth.

>>714780830
No, they are just simulating EVERYTHING on the map at all times. This is why you get random turf war notifications after doing menus or whatever while in the village.
Every small monster, every endemic life, is updated all the time. Yes this is retarded.

>>714783264
WOAH!

>>714783993
they hired pokemon violet/carlet devs or something?

>>714783970
Did you have a blast?

>>714778945 (OP)
Works on my machine.

>>714778945 (OP)
Good, fuck crapcom, they need to learn their place.

discord link bingsister?

>>714779624
>By using the new ai upscalers that use more cpu and gives less performance for a better result, we will improve performance
I think the harassment was coming from every single person working at the studio with even half a brain cell.

>>714783546
>It took them about 3 years to finally make it ok
it didn't. It was an effort from modders that made the game run decently

>>714778945 (OP)
Based Japenises. They keep it real.

>>714783993
You just don't understand. This is very important to do for the living world you wont see as you afk past it on your taxi ride.

Why does my GPU max out at 330 watts normally but won't go above 250 watts in Monster Hunter Wilds? Game is SHIT.

The funniest part about milds threads is the Indian shills going into a bloody bitch benchod you are the dahlit you cannot run the monster hunter

>>714784715
The worst ones were the ps jeets. "SAAAR MY PS5 and PRO RUN THE GAME AT 4k ULTRA SETTING!, PC VEGAN NO RUN GAME!"

>>714781975
>>714781621
>>714781912
While it is a Switch game I think working inside those limitations allowed them to have a great game visually, sure the particles aren't the best but the readability of the screen, the sharp textures and models really make it look good. Too bad Worldbabs only care about graphics while their favorite game looks like its smeared with vaseline

>>714778945 (OP)
harassment implies it's unwarranted
you can't harass a serial killer, for instance

>looks like shit
>runs like shit
What the fuck happened to Capcom?
They always made excellent pc ports.

>>714783546
>same
not really? It was bad but Wilds really is a technical marvel. Not even Gamefreak could fuck it up this bad

>>714778945 (OP)
Good, crapcom deserve to get harassed

>>714784862
They threw out the GOAT that was MT Framework.

>>714778945 (OP)
It's actually insane they had the gall to think they had the right to even speak on optimization with the pathetic state the game is in.

>>714784862
>always
They had periods of horrible pc ports in the past too, this isn't the first

I wonder if they fired all their competent programmers. They didn't' even try with kunitsu-gami on switch.

>>714778945 (OP)
>Lecture about MH Wilds optimization
What optimization?

>>714778945 (OP)
why did you do it, /v/

piece of hunter sheeeit

>>714783691
FS4 and DLSS increase CPU overhead, not decrease it. And resolution has no effect on CPU usage.

>>714784715
>>714784773
There are unironically Indians who will buy monster hunter wilds and afk in it, a game they cannot run, just so they can appear higher caste. Like buying a fake rolex

>>714779624
Wouldn't that increase the CPU bottlenecking? You know, because the game is running at a lower internal resolution, no?

>>714785276
the ones introduced through patches
the game undeniably runs better now than it did at launch/beta

>>714780967
Modern GPUs are extremely good at rendering tens millions of triangles, the issue is how are you rendering those triangles.

>>714785549
if i download the benchmark will it have those patches? i kinda want to buy the game but if it'll run like shit after i watch 2 hours of cutscenes and can't refund it then i'd rather now

>>714785453
Not really. If the game is already bottlenecked by cpu at 1440p, lowering the resolution wont really change anything.

What will increase it is that DLSS4 and FSR4 has slightly higher cpu overhead in exchange for looking much better.

>>714781621
>MHR
LOL, the game is terribly optimised, it's just that it's a switch game so your PC can brute force it.
If you used MSI afterburner and looked at the resource usage you would have noticed that it uses more resources than World.
So no, MHR is terribly optimised for what it is.
DMC V, RE2 and RE3 remakes were legit well optimised games and worked at 30fps 720 on lowest on my old PC from 2009(with a 2011 GPU) and low spec i3 laptop from 2019.
That low spec laptop couldn't even boot Rise, a game made for a shitty 2016 tablet, while it could run games(albeit on low settings) made for ps4.
So Capcom has had shitty optimisation ever since the Rise port.
So that is around the time they fucked up the RE Engine.

>>714779391
I have RTX 5080 and it runs like shit.

>>714782791
its a funny statement because mhf, fu, p3rd and gu are clear upgrades over the main generation title

Harassment?

>>714785248
Lol I had a friend who was going to buy that one with street fighter on the switch and was put away by it's performance. They should have a little more time with that one. It's like they crapped it out or something.

>>714779624
>oh no our game runs like shit what do we do
>MORE FAKE FRAMES MORE FAKE RESOLUTION AI IS THE FUTURE
>boss maybe we shouldn't have used this engine after al--
>AIIEEEEEE HARASSMENT DEATH THREAT THIS LECTURE IS CANCELED

>>714785938
kek

>oh no someone said "kys" on the internet
>DEATH THREATS! HELP I'M GETTING DEATH THREATS! YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE ME ANYMORE BECAUSE LE DEATH THREATS

>>714785648
I doubt the benchmark has changed at all, I'd wait personally to see if more fixes come before the expansion, but if you're curious you should be able to get a few hunts in before the 2 hour mark to gauge how it'll run
iirc the empty plain you fight quematrice in is one of the most demanding areas in the game. p

>>714785648
Seconding this

>>714779978
>>714780549
Some key people left and they began to massively outsource stuff.
Capcom was the master of optimization because they have lots of arcade dev history and they also made games for portable devices.
Not so much any longer.

>€239,68 worth of DLC
These guys knows where the real money is.

>>714778945 (OP)
>planned lecture on Monster Hunter Wilds’ optimization at Japan’s CEDEC 2025 (Computer Entertainment Developers Conference).
Fucking kek

>>714785998
Can we stop this engine meme? It has jack shit to do with the engine. If they made the game the same way in MT Framework it would run like shit. I know this because World ran like shit on the hardware it was intended for. It almost NEVER hit 30 fps on a PS4, and spent most of it's time in the 20's unless you got a PS4 pro. They fundamentally are programming the games poorly for what they are trying to do and have no idea how to fix it, and for some reason refuse to hire people who would know. Respawn took the source engine and made it run very well for a huge open world environment with an infinite view distance. Your game running like shit is never the engine, and is ALWAYS a skill issue.

>>714786227
can i skip cutscenes or is it like world?
i'm planning on launching it, default character, skip everything and see if i can get to a hunt and test how it runs

>>714778945 (OP)
>capcom
>lecture

>>714786306
people forget that world got saved by the fact that soon after its release a massive hardware power creep happened

>>714786290
And yet the game still costs 70$ MSRP. Indians scam you for less.

>>714786342
You will look at the cutscenes about the VERY interesting and deep story, and you will love it, or else.
They even went out of their way to make most of it walk n talks so that the filthy modders couldn't ruin it like they did with World.

>>714786306
I guess the issue is that for the scope they wanted to use for Wilds, RE Engine doesn't work at all. In comparison, Rise was so well-optimized that it runs on literally anything, even computers that are worse than the Switch despite using the same engine, so the lesson here is that either they should dial down (which they refuse to do) or use an engine better suited to all the shit they want to do at the same time.

>>714778945 (OP)
>Didn't fall for DD2
>Didn't fall for Wilds
>mfw

>>714785630
unlimited point cloud RTX DLSS HDR

>>714786342
you can skip cutscenes but there are forced walking segments you can't speed up

>>714778945 (OP)
They are using the Disney Star Wars strategy. Put out something shitty, when it's poorly received accuse people of review bombing and harassment. Never show receipts.

>>714786409
Yeah, and the PS4 pro version still ran like shit, just "acceptable" shit (you could get 30 fps). Then the PC version was extremely broken and crashed all the time. MT Framework had the exact same problems as RE Engines. It ran really well with their smaller environment games like DMC4 but the second it was used for large open environments it ran like shit. Again, this is not because the "engine" itself, it's because Capcom cannot program a renderer that renderers a ton of assets and keeps CPU usage under management (which is Wilds largest issue by far)

I have noticed a pattern in modern post-2020 games, they look worse than pre-2020 for the same GPU time, for example STALKER 2 will look worse than Metro Exodus at the same GPU time.

>>714786342
No. About half of the cutscenes are skippable. The other half are VERY slow exposition scenes where you ride at a snails pace on a seikret and you cannot leave the designated path for more than 10 feet.

>>714778945 (OP)
maybe fix dragon's dogma 2 first you worthless pajeet devs?

>>714786604
>>714786507
are those at least intensive? fuck me i don't want to spend $ on something i'll refund

>>714786342
It's not worth it. Wait till g rank. I bought it with my bro and we both regretted it. Its not even to console or brand war here since some are sensitive about it, but play rise if you haven't yet.

Itsuno's last fuck you to Capcom was to make open world Rengine bad on purpose

>>714778945 (OP)
was the lecture about what not to do?

>>714786643
>review bombing
I mean that did happen with Wilds.

A 2025 game with PS2 textures

>>714786718
The benchmark is just the opening cutscene, so sort of?

>>714786726
i'm going through rise but i don't want to be super behind when g rank drops and i know there's fomo shit in the game

>>714786803
>people dont like that something
>review bomb
its called bad review of game because it shit

>>714786550
They do not have to change game engines. A game engine is a collection of tons of tools that you use to make a game. An example would be their animation tools and mo cap tools. Why should they throw these out? The entirety of the issue with Wilds is how they actually go about rendering the scene, and the shader complexity in the scenes. Wilds biggest issue isn't GPU usage, so we'll ignore that, but if you even just open Wilds in render doc you will see them using shitty techniques that don't scale well for a game when you want to render infinity things. To fix this, they need to update this rendering path. That's it. They don't need a brand new "game engine." It's not trivial to do but for a multi billion dollar company it's possible (also considering pretty much every multi-billion dollar company was able to solve this problem, and even talked about it extensively in GDC talks...) Capcom just, for whatever reason, is saying it's not worth their time to fix, and are waiting for CPU's to get fast enough to solve their problem, which is ridiculous because CPU's barely get faster.

One of the worst game engines ever made. Not even Gamebryo runs this poorly. Watch them make another open world game on it. Fucking idiots.

>>714780960
this is neither ps2 nor 2004 btw, it's psp which makes it that much more funny

>>714785648
do us everyone a favor and run the benchmark and when you buy the game measure avg fps and tell us whether there is any improvements.

p.s. the benchmark didn't even seem to measure fps correctly because it started counting frames before the game fully loaded and likely counted fake frames. If you can barely run the benchmark, don't bother.

>>714783993
is it possible to use reframework to mod this shit out? how much perf can be reclaimed with mods?

>>714786669
It's because switching to extremely real time effects, that cannot be rendered at even 30 fps, so you get a real time effect (therefore looking worse) that also can't render at full resolution (so you have to render it dithered) and then a smear to make the final image not be full of holes (removing clarity) It turns out /v/ posting that image over and over again of Fear vs Bioshock Infinite was the catalyst for everything turning to shit.

>>714786848
The Uth Duna or Jin Dahaad cutscenes would have made for better benchmarks because of the water/snow.

>>714786831
I love how DF (and other people) thought this is a graphics bug

>>714779624
This makes me worried about Resident Evil 9 since that is suppose to be an open world game.

>>714785938
how did this guy go from "i don't think about you at all" to this shit lmao. what a way to taint a legacy.

>>714783993
glad we finally got a breathing living world instead of a small rooms and teleporting exits to hunt monsters in

I seriously wish i could have got refund.

>>714786589
>Didn't fall for DD2
How are the fanboys coping now? Surely there must've been a few who weren't just shills.

>>714787187
It will probably be open world in the sense that Village/4R/7 were.

>>714783608
That's just Agata
Agata only makes ss

>>714778945 (OP)
It's the prince they pay for making a game with the PS5 in mind and ignore that the core of their fanbase is on PC and really vocal about it.

>>714786652
who the fuck celebrates on an engine running better for rendering corridors and small rooms. i'm no shill but western studios have gotten bigger play spaces for almost a decade already.

>>714787249
They went back to the cycle

>>714787249
Not heard from any in ages. Doubt there is any left after Itsuno peaced out.

>>714779289
>can't fix
It runs fine on consoles

>*whistles for magic chicken*
>autoruns to monster marker while i watch tiktoks
>"Mhmm... Chatacabra, gotta be."
>"Come on, Seikret."
>Big Nose Tits Mcgee Handler shouts in my ear
>"YOU REALLY ARE A MONSTER HUNTER™ IN THESE WILDS™"
>approach Chatacabra
>whiff TCS but thankfully I can activate my Hunter Senses so I 180 pivot to hit the monster
>continue using hunter senses and unleash my cinematic attack
>repeat this 30 times
>get hit once, thankfully my cat throws a ball of green cum at me so im completely healed but just in case i call for my magic chicken to swoop me away from danger while i auto sharpen, heal, do my taxes, and make some food while the monster limps away
>when im ready, the magic chicken autoruns to the monsters exact location and arrives in 4 seconds, enough time to completely ignore everything else onscreen like the landscape or endemic life while i watch a tiktok (thank goodness for this small quality of life feature)
>kill the monster (really hard because i had to use buttons to make things happen in the game)
>skip all the post-quest text and rewards with 1 button (i can get back to watching tiktoks faster)

>>714785781
If you don't own SLI 5090 you're poor

>>714787492
But the game also looks and runs like shit on the PS5.

>>714787523
>It runs fine on consoles
It runs fine on PS5*

>>714779624
>relying on blur filters to optimize your game
this is the state of videogames

>>714787602
Man, I wish I was rich enough to get access to tech that haven't been used in 4 years.

>>714787074
I bet they thought using some 100 year old print technique (dithering) for optimization was some 150 IQ play. Meanwhile nobody paid attention to decimate 3d models or properly applying LOD.

>>714786803
10 million people bought a game and a good chunk of them probably couldn't even play it as advertised. Poor performance aside, it wasn't a great game either. So the bad reviews are justified.

>>714787658
It runs "fine" on PS5 at 720p*

>>714787497
During this same era the western games that were being released also targeted 30 fps and also missed the target, though not as egregiously. The issue mostly stems from the PS3 era, in which Capcom used aforementioned engine to make 60 fps games with good looking environments, and western games made open world games that ran sometimes sub 20 fps. The most praised western games at the time did the same shit as Capcom, IE uncharted, TLoU, etc. So that is why people praise it. I personally hate open world slop so I just wish it would stop being produced, but that didn't happen so now Capcom is playing catchup on a technology it got into late and never learned how to master or hired to get knowledge on. Most other people simply outsource this knowledge acquisition to Epic. Even CDProjekt is doing that now. This is all the worst version of the world evolving.

>>714786743
you maybe joking, but there apparent is some petty internal war within capcom
some (recent?) interview had itchynose reiterating the philosophy of the "portable" line being gameplay and "pleasantness" over high graphics, and I didn't even notice ryozo memoryholing SB in the latest title update video till some nip pointed it out

>>714778945 (OP)
I played monster hunter on my laptop at lowest specs. The torches and flames looked like Minecraft graphics. But ran at a smooth 60fps with no performance issues. The game sucked because of the convoluted multiplayer and piss easy bosses

DD2 was a bigger "fuck you fans" from Capcom than Wilds
Last updates in Wilds are quite challenging and fun while Capcom let DD2 die without a second thought

>face threats and harrasement
poor crapcum devs
get fucked for ruining all your franchises

>>714787868
Modern game engines don't have to decimate 3d models. You basically store your models as meshlets, and then do culling on the GPU. Because your models are a soup of triangles, you can cull at a triangle level, and also do dynamic real time LOD's. All the kind of shit Capcom doesn't do because they are 10 years behind on tech and refuse to upgrade shit.

Works on my PS5 kek

>>714787908
runs better than poor pckeks

>>714788118
They are both bad and part of a pattern of negligent behavior, or just outright fuckery. Capcom seems to have a habit of shipping broken products that they might eventually fix, maybe, if they sell well enough. DD2 and Wilds still run like shit and neither title had a great end game.

>>714788436
DD2 is completely abandoned now.

>>714788521
Wilds will likely be too, because entitled fans were not grateful for the hatchet job of a game they were given.

>>714778945 (OP)
>threats
how many sockpuppets did they use to write fake messages to themselves this time?

>>714788669
RE and MH are the money printers for Capcom, they cannot afford to just kill off Wilds now. Especially since the next portable game is still years away. They must fill this gap somehow, and their only options is more TUs and then the wilds expansion. They literally have no other choice here.

>>714785754
>DMC V, RE2 and RE3 remakes were legit well optimised games
this I agree so damn much like seriously what even the fuck happened at crapcom?! I know v/ gonna ridicule me for favoring MT Framework engine but damn.. if my god damn spec can run RE4R high 60fps smooth high settings than this game shouldn't be that big a deal.

You guys must realize that you are in a pokemon situation now, Pokemon SV is the worst Pokemon game from a technical point of view since Gen1, people actually got annoyed by the bad performance and complained/made fun of it to the point Nintendo was forced to acknowledge BUT the masses still bought SV by the millions so in the end Gamrefreak doesn't fucking care, they know they literally sell shit with "pokemon" stamped on it and the masses will still buy it. The same is now happening with MHW, Capcom doesn't care about your complains about bad optimization because Wilds already sold 10 millions, these companies will NEVER care about your complains unless their sales actually suck.

>>714785938
>summer sale comes around
>all the hopeful newfags holding off buy into
>all get stunned at the dogshit unplayability
>ratings tank even harder

They could just port GU or 4U to PC for easy bux

>>714789128
Wilds isn't outselling World (not even Rise) while Wilds likely required much more budget than either. So yeah, the accountants at Capcom are noticing this.

>>714778945 (OP)

>>714786306
>install game
>runs bad
>skill issue: I clicked the "install" button wrong
welp

>>714789331
Asking Capcom to port an old mainline game and put servers for it is lile asking Nintendo to port Melee.

What are the chances that the performance does get fixed though

>>714789105
Capcom's new engine isnt great with open world games and every new capcom game is an open world game.

>>714789496
0

dragon's dongma...

>>714789496
negative 100%. If you think it wont get much much worse when the expansion comes out, you are delusional.

>>714789331
XX would upstage nepo ryozo's steaming pile of shite, so no way

>>714789530
Speaking of RE engine, its whole point is make everything look "realistic", right? So Capcom can't actually use it for MHS3 as that spin off has unapologetic anime style?

>>714789496
I thought them rescinding their CEDEC lecture was them admitting they cannot do anything more

>>714789105
All of those games were RE Engine as well.
Their last big MT Framework game was World.

Did they ever add an option to remove or reduce the quiro auras from monsters and reduce the horrible level grind in SB

>>714787249
I'm a DD fanboy.
2 was a letdown.
I got 100 hours out of it, I enjoyed myself, but it's no DD1 and definitely not worthy of being DD2.

>>714778945 (OP)
Why not just buy a better PC?

>>714789585
its not like it hasn't happened already anyway, p3rd completely upstaged ryozo's tri (which was the first game he was directly involved in after being brought on as a """producer""" for FU)

>No!! If you don't dislike Capcom and their games you're Indian and on the wrong side!

Reddit moment

>>714789753
Actually their last MT game was MHS2.

>>714786306
1. Explain Dragons Dogma 2
2. World at least looked great

>>714789829
I said big

>>714789806
DD2 is painful
I played it two times. The first time I expend the whole time thinking it would get better later on, but that never happened
2nd play was downright terrible because I already knew there was nothing at the end of the road

>>714778945 (OP)
>Devs either just received criticism or one piece of broken english from a 3rd worlder saying "fix me i kill u bitch bloody bitch"
>WE'RE GETTING DEATH THREATS THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO
>Entire conversation turns from justified criticism to the community saying "guys death threats are not okay alright they're not okay don't do that leave the devs alone"
At this point I am GENUINELY convinced that some devs will just fake or lie about these threats to completely stop all valid campaigns complaining about objectively dumb shit in their games. This happens every time.

>>714789972
Is a MH game not matter how much you deny it.

>>714789496

It wont. The base game required fake frames to even be playable at 1080p 60fps. Theres no way they can fix a fundamentally broken game.

>>714789496
>What are the chances that the performance does get fixed though
Just get s PS5 lol

>>714790047
this 100%

>devs face threats and harassment
is corpo speak for
>dear leftoid journalists/trannies, please call our customers shitheads and tell them to keep buying our dogshit products. make sure to praise our product and """debunk""" all criticism. here's a check over $3.50

>Among these, a session titled "Making Monster Hunter Wilds run smoothly! Everything you need to know about optimization" has been cancelled
i mean come the fuck on. how tone deaf can you really be

>>714790047
I don't get why playbooks that happen in our face work over and over again but it's all so tiresome. All corporations do the same shit as each other, regardless of what that corporation does and it works every time.

>>714779289
fpbp capcom shows baby level behavior with this shit

>>714787141
the colorization on the shirt is from compression. how the fuck do you compress a texture to that extent, and still take up 40 billion gbs, and 12gbs of vram?

>>714789691
Kunitsu exists
that would be like saying UE or Unity can't be used for 2D games.

lmao not even the HD pack works.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/596279596963428054/

Did they ever fix the texture issue where NPC’s cloth look like they came from a ps2 game?

>>714789774
You can just mod both of those things

>Not even Reddit buys the excuse.

Lmaooo

>>714790683
What game is that, anon

>>714790683
Kunitsugami looks like every other REngine game.

>>714787523
say game runs fine on consoles is like praising instant noodles when you've never had real pasta
it's a shit standard by default to go by

>>714778945 (OP)
Another tone-deaf company. If they can't make a game that doesn't require the strongest CPU in mankind's history to run comfortably at 1080p all low settings, then they should just make all future games look like Rise so we don't have to deal with this shit anymore.

It's one thing that Wilds is just an unsatisfying MH game. It's another thing entirely when the performance is so bad that it seems like the developers are actively fucking with you. It's not just the rest of the world shitting on this game, there's even Japanese fans jokingly asking when we'll get a MH game after Rise.

Everyone knows it's shit and Capcom are in a panic about it. It's their fault for coding a shit game and expecting people to be happy with it. It's not harassment, it's your fans telling you to get your fucking shit together.

>>714790047
Japanese companies have to take Japanese threats seriously because of Kyoani

>>714791180
I've never seen that anime

>>714785781
Get a 5090 then

>>714791160
Should have boughted a PS5 chud

>>714789691
common misconception about generalist engines. unreal and unity can do any art style you want, but they both have their primary focuses. unreal is photorealism, unity was mobile/lightweight. unreal can do photorealism out of the box, it can be very easily adjusted for more stylized stuff, and can even do 2d. whether it's realistic 2.5d, or straight up 8 bit sprites, it's not a problem. this was the idea for re engine, but it turns out that shit engine can't even do basic open world stuff. the whole thing is a loss, and we got a few terrible resident evils, an awful monster hunter, and a disastrous dragon's dogma out of it.

>>714791107
MH on PC was a mistake
Now devs have to waste time optimizing for potato owners instead of just adding new content

>>714790902
Kingdom
If you consider buying it and like it, don't bother with the other titles in the series. They are all just reskins

>>714791332
monster hunter games are boring, so I agree

>>714791160
Craziest part is that they fucked up on optimization earlier with DD2, and apparently learned fucking nothing from that.

>>714791332
Emulation exists.

>>714778945 (OP)
>suffering harassment
God I hope it's of the sexual kind

>>714791332
I for once miss when the games was 144p and 25 fps.

>>714786306
i ran monster hunter world nearly maxed out on a 1060 3gb, a card released 2 years before world, at $199. it had occasional hiccups. wilds does NOT run on hardware better than recommended.

>>714791332
Rise on Switch was already barely playable.
Same apparently goes to Wilds on Series S

>>714791468
what a weird, nonsensical statement.

>>714787062
lol

>>714791180
do the nips really think someone is gonna walk into their office and use tsukuyomi on them? lmao

>>714791717
Emulators are on PC.

They wont fix wilds we're in the age of companies don't even gives a fuck enough to fix their products and you just have to deal with it.

>>714791672
Congrats, your toaster was able to run a port of a 2013 console
Do you want fries with that?

>>714778945 (OP)
>If you sue your enemies, you win.
Sun Tzu - Art of War

>>714791881
retard-kun...

>>714781457
RE Engine doesn't stand for Resident Evil Engine. It's "Reach for the Moon" Engine.

>>714791881
And yet a top of the line 2025 PC can't run a port from a 5 year old console.

>>714791953
They made an entirely new PS4 just for MH?

>>714782914
>there was also something about not being able to relocate the equipment box external to the tent, as if their spaghetti code would blow up when they tried
They literally did put it outside in the latest patch though.

Reminder Wilds is supposed to run on base Ps5. At 40fps 720p WITH framegen Lmao.

>>714786306
engines are especially why games run like shit. they create black boxes at key level of the programs that becomes big red "deal with it" situations that can bottleneck your whole program and you can't do anything about it except posting on the official forums to fix shit.
The most extreme, common case is fucking Unity that refuses to do some basic shit properly for years as part of their "philosophy". Your sprite game game WILL be 500 meg, it WILL have dozen of seconds of loading time, it WILL have resising issues on multiple situation, and it's the engine's fault.

>>714792068
lmao which one of your parents was the dog?

>>714791953
The HARDWARE was from 2013, and it wasnt ground breaking at launch

>>714792158
Then why do you think the hardware is from 2018? Maybe both your parents was pieces of shit?

>>714791953
CONSOLE, anon. Not game.

>>714792158
>he doesn't even understand the word "hardware" but act like a dev engineer online
good morning sir.

>>714792237
hey retardo, the point is world ran on a toaster card 2 years before the game came out. wilds runs like absolute shit on an $800 card made 5 years after the ps5 came out. are you this stupid?

>>714792416
So you are now back to thinking they made a new console exclusively for World. You are clearly a lost cause.

>>714778945 (OP)
Absolute cowards, what a convenient excuse to show off their own incompetence

>>714792416
But do you own a $800 GPU?

i'm playing on a 5080 and there's certain things in the game that actually make it buckle, even with fg on. lagiacrus for example tanks my frames by like 40 in some conditions

>>714792619
weird, nonsensical post.

>>714787571
KEK

>>714792825
its third world shit posting
they think if you own a 5080 or even 4080 is luxury of some of sort

>>714792825
Ill take that as a no and that you tried to run Wilds on your old 1060

>>714792560
your argument switches between optimization, gpus, and consoles so frequently it doesn't matter what i say. the point was always that a budget gpu could run a game on a better engine, which you took as "WOW YOUR GPU CAN BEAT A PS4" which was never the argument. get in a car crash, and say hi to mom.

>>714787523
>30fps
>fine
>while looking horrendous on top of that
>fine

>>714793030
Those are just the hallucinations caused by the ai you use to translate from english to pajeet.

>>714787571
Forgot to mention the constant
>THERE IS A DUNG UPSURGE IN THE JEET VILLAGE
Endemic life updates spamming the right side of the screen.

>>714793135
Lilyhops on da teevee!

>>714778945 (OP)
Pretty based honestly, hope you all get banned for criticizing CapGODS

>>714778945 (OP)
The dude writing the article only had the cancelation as info
Everything else in that article is clickbait

They literally expect you to run this game with framegen with at least a 4070 super.

>muh death threats card
Capcom truly has fallen.

>>714784678
That is some severe CPU bottleneck.

>>714793135
Runs 60fps, 4k on ps5pro

>>714793387
PISSER doesn't count.

>>714792979
>Ill take that as a no
why? that's a really illogical thing to say. People especially complain because the game run like shit on their machine. It runs like shit on my 9070Xt pajeet.

>>714791464
I don't agree with this 100%. In cities, yes, there was a CPU bottleneck, but that ended up being mostly fixed a month or two later. Now, the game mostly pegs the GPU. My CPU is a 5700X and my 9070XT is constantly at 304w in that game. So I think DD2 and Wilds suffer from very different problems - the former is now mostly GPU bound, Wilds is severely CPU bound.

>>714793387
Yeah because of the fake frames.
Here's the whole reddit discussion about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1k01y2h/comment/mnap90f/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1k01y2h/comment/mnap90f/

>>714793387
>4k
>ps5pro
You are a fucking joke.

>>714778945 (OP)
>Plan a lecture on optimisation in a game that lacks optimisation
Is this a joke?

>>714793580
>>714793683
>>714793704
You have already chosen your pitiful end

>>714793335
That's 90% of what modern gaming is. You basically need framegen to even get 60fps.

>>714793780
Oh, it's you. How's the PS5 emulator coming along, Eric?

>>714793891
Who?

>>714778945 (OP)
Maybe they should just fix the game? It's been out for months.

Had a rule when the ps4 came out
>play nothing released after 2012
Same rule applied when the ps5 came out
>nothing beyond 2020
Right now tech is in the gimmick phase, if you're young you probably don't remember when 3d televisions were being sold as the next hot thing. All this ai generated frames and upscaling bogus is just a bunch of nonsense to bullshit shareholders. Come back to pc gaming in 5 years. It'll be cheaper, better, and everything you wanna play will run flawlessly.

>>714793936
You.

>>714793683
>muh frame gen!
you niggers have long forgotten that the purpose of video games are that they are supposed to be fun.
if no fagtuber had ever told you about frame gen you would have noticed or known it as a thing.
pc faggots are a detriment to vidya. insufferable lot, holy fuck.

>CRAPCOM

>>714794405
wouldn’t* lol

It's a real shame that the game mostly sucks ass, because the last two monsters they just released are the most fun so far.It's much harder to give them wounds, when you pop wounds on them they do not fall over as hard, the flinch at most, they are just much more fun to fight.

>>714792090
>Reminder Wilds is supposed to run on base Ps5. At 40fps 720p WITH framegen Lmao.
PS5 doesn't have framegen

>>714794489
best and most fun fighter ever made. seethe fag.

>>714794169
>tech
>game looks like shit
>need high-end pc
>still preforms like shit on 5090
>still looks like shit
I don't think it's about tech. More like typical downfall of modern game development. Same how old games had good AI but now anything about AI is lost technologies devs.

>>714793387
it's 1080p/60 on pro

>>714794405
njudea was telling literally the whole world about this tech, shouting it loud and proud from the rooftop.
you clown.

>>714794405
Anon, frame gen is noise. When a "generated" frame is played, your inputs will not register and nothing in the game logic moves.

>>714794652
At least the gameplay in Wilds was also shit, so them spending the entire time on the graphics was totally worth it.

>>714793387
If you own a PS5 Pro you are automatically disqualified from having an opinion anyone should care about.

>>714793387
Look at all the PCjeets seething at this post kek

Realistically, what can Capcom do to salvage performance? I played this at launch, refunded and even since then, I haven't heard a single person say it's had any performance improvements. Even for fucking World, they managed to do minor adjustments months after the game came out and overhauled the entire thing by the time IB came out so I could play it on an ancient CPU and shit GPU. Here, it looks like there's no hope whatsoever.

>>714794889
says the pc nigger who is crying about not being able to run Wilds on his toaster.
sucks to be you bro.

>>714778945 (OP)
>This decision likely has to do with harassment and targeted threats
>>LIKELY
THE """JOURNALIST""" IS JUST MAKING THINGS UP TO MAKE GAMERS LOOK BAD

>>714779624
This can't be real

>>714779549
>The entire lecture is "what went wrong" and "what not to do"
Should have done the lecture anyway. It would be very educational.

>>714779614
the perfs are dogshit, period. I have a 4080 with FG and I get between 60 and 144 fps, I have no problem getting high fps but the fact the game can dip so low for no reason is proof it's unoptimized as fuck

>>714794889
>buy PS5 Pro for 700 bucks
>same price as the cheapest decent GPU on the market (RTX 5070)
>enjoy games with better graphic fidelity than 95% of PC users (look at the Steam charts)
It simply makes sense from a normalfag standpoint, and this is coming from a PChad.

>>714778945 (OP)
the devs who shat out the worst opitmized game yet of the 2020s wanted to do a lecture on optimization???

>>714795075
>DUDE U POOR LUL
I think monster hunter is just weeb cod, total grinding slop lol
I have a 3080, I play games like Expedition 33 just fine.
But its very obvious monster hutner is coded by retards and runs like shit just like Dragon Dogma 2.
PS5 Pro is a cuckold idiot machine, you saw the nogames the PS5 had and chose to spend enough money to build a PC roughly as powerful as it on...another PS5 but SLIGHTLY better!!!
It instantly tells everyone you are retarded BECAUSE you own one. The money it costs quite literally can build an equal PC, especially so long after its release and that PC can run fucking anything else you want to play.

>>714795065
>I haven't heard a single person say it's had any performance improvements.
Here's the kicker, the performance got EVEN WORSE in a recent patch.

>>714795359
showing humility would've been something
I don't think they even understand what the fuck's even the problem, otherwise they would've fixed it months ago

>>714794343
How can you say this without realizing how unhinged you sound?

>>714796059
No one's falling for it, you bald retard.

They will never fix the game.

>>714794889
You jealous it's more powerful than any pc?

>>714793780
>>714793936
>>714796059
kill yourself tripfag

>>714778945 (OP)
so there pretending actual fans were going to attend this presentation? is this the trick going forward, make "public statements" about "hate mail" and bask in sympathy points?

>>714793387
>>714796143
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RRXB5oMmSk
the pis5 loses to literal ewaste

>>714794652
man I would be happy if games now would just look like Crysis 1 or Ryse. Vegetation and map intractability was amazing.
Meanwhile most jap games feel like every tree that can break is just a scripted event.

>>714779391
>Poor people should not play video games
I don't understand why this has become such a common design goal in the games industry.
And I mean both angles.
Business side, wouldn't you want to maximize sales? The sticker price is the sticker price, you get no kickbacks from hardware sales required for it, even factoring in partnerships it seems like the lesser take.
Society wise, what's the end goal in depriving the lower class from recreations? I doubt that actually incentivizes anything that will come back to benefit publishers.

>>714796460
Poors and especially 3rd worlders need to stay out of my multiplayer games.

>>714796273
Nice textures bro

>>714796770
That's fair but easier to solve with segregation of servers versus worsening the experience for everyone.

>>714796806
Unironically looks like PiS5 tier, I don't see the issue here.

>>714796984
>Unironically looks like PiS5 tier,
It doesn't but keep coping GTX 1060 bro

>>714796770
This. GPUs should cost $10000 at minimum. 1st worlders should show their wealth and pride.

>>714796876
The poors cheat the systems with VPNs. They pirate the games. The only thing they cannot cheat is expensive hardware.

The issue is newer goyslop is not worth playing in general.
Forget actually arguing and trying to dismiss all new shit without even giving it a second thought, despite all the shitposting surrounding newer games I can't even remember anything new that has come out recently.
>Dragon ages vanguard.
>Doom dark ages.
>That bethesdaslop remake I forgot.
>Wukong.
>Gook blade.
>Stalker 2.
And that's fucking it from the last 2 or so years from outside of japan, legitimately everything else is so forgettable that nobody even talks about it even if to shitpost it.

>>714797226
We should ban VPNs to stop poors.

>>714793387
>he buyed a piss5pro

>>714786176
I think it's even worse
I think it's
>you game runs like shit, you fucking suck
>DEATH THREATS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>714791959
Anon, stop. Do you really expect people on /v/ to think?

>>714797317
Wukong was alright but it's not worth the fullprice and if you don't know the source material the story is shit. Major difference is that I could play it before upgrading on my 1080 ti with native 1440p on low/medium settings with console like 30 fps. Meanwhile Wilds ran at 16 fps on 1080p with everything on lowest.

>>714791959
""Reach for the Moon" Engine" Engine

PC poors...just give up, your rtx 2060 doesn't cut it anymore, and jewvidia priced you out of new gpus, just bite the bullet and home come.

Anti-aliasing: 4x MSSA
Anisotropic filtering: 4x
Beer: cracked
We need to go back. Modern tech is shit. No more post processing AI generated garbage, we need SOVL

frame gen is the worst thing to happen to games in a long time and retards just eat it up

>>714798182
Things peaked at DX10. Everything went downhill with DX11 and beyond.

>>714797317
that's just a westoid dev problem in general, and it's been spreading to indieslop from the west for a while now too
give me 50 screenshots of different jp games and no matter how obscure they are i can probably name not just from which series it is, but from which particular game it is, even when they use UEslop like yumia did they are still easily recognizable
meanwhile every single time some westoid/chink/gook slop gets announced i can only think "wait didn't this already release?"
i was legitimately shocked when the plagarism shit happened to marathon, it just looked generic like hyenas

>>714778945 (OP)
>Lecture about optimization
>from fucking wilds
Holy shit are you serious?
This is as bad as when they said "the story was what made Wilds successful"

>>714798268
Just make 1 frame and duplicate it 100 times and you have 100fps. Its literally free performance.

>>714798182
>Anisotropic filtering: 4x
why
16x hasn't had any performance loss for 20 years

>>714798950
I liked them matching but you're right

>>714791979

Dont reply to Capcom shills. They all have the same ragebait replies.

Focused too much in the DEI department

>>714798468
>give me 50 screenshots of different jp games and no matter how obscure they are i can probably name not just from which series it is
Fun fact: not a single soul on this planet cares how many different AGP simulators you know by heart, you retarded weeb. You don’t have the ground to call anything slop when all your waifu doll games are literally churned out for the lowest common denominator of sex-obsessed neanderthals.

>>714799267
you sound weirdly upset over that
hell, hide the main character and i doubt you can even tell any TPS game apart if it released within the last 10 years

>>714799267
gcj bot

>>714778945 (OP)
The
>internet harassment
excuse wore off years ago

>>714788386
No it doesn't, it runs at 30 fps and shits itself with stutter and freezing you fucking bozo

>>714779549
>well...eto.. the game is optimized already, that's it

RE9 is going to run at 10 fps on a 5090

>>714798268
I think it could make for a cool game if you used it incorrectly intentionally to make a nightmarish dreamscape.

>>714783993
they figured how to handle shit like that in stalker back in 2007, what the fuck

>>714800703
Looks stunningly similar to the AI generated Minecraft client that contains no minecraft code.

>>714794879
Yes, everyone knows framegen increases input latency. However, it's a non issue in Wilds because timings are so forgiving you can go for a perfect block with a shield almost a full second before an attack connects and it will still register while framegen is on. Wilds benefits from framegen immensely with minimal downsides but people are too obsessed with native resolution to see the benefits.

>>714786385
Maybe they meant their employees would be attending a lecture

>>714778945 (OP)
>planned lecture on Monster Hunter Wilds’ optimization at Japan’s CEDEC 2025
what a joke

>>714778945 (OP)
Game runs like shit and looks like ass. I guess the lecture would have it's worth by showing devs how to not "optimize" a game.

>>714779624
Yeah no, this game is cooked.

>>714801546
More than double it's predecessor's playercount. Seems fine to me.

>>714795821
>I play e33
yea I know you’re a faggot no need to further prove it.

>>714801896
>seems fine to me

Yeah the games fucked lmao

>>714780830
Worst. It runs on C#.

>Turn off half of the graphical settings
>Nothing changes
>Decrease volumetric fog
>Nothing changes
>Decrease textures from highest to high
>Nothing changes
This game vexes me.

>>714801314
They should rewrite in TypeScript

>>714802020
you niggers will keep coping no matter what.
the expansion will be a major success and you’ll have this same cope. next mh game will be a major success and you’ll have this same cope.
eternally seething at the masters of vidya.

>>714802152
yeah its shit optimization

>>714802152
HD textures cause crappy micro stutter though they actually managed to slightly improve this with the latest update. I also cannot stand the texture streaming whenever you enter the map.

>>714778945 (OP)
Japanese people REALLY don't like criticism. Big companies play the harassment card or they go wild with defamation lawsuits over there (even if you're right and have proof against them, the court will favor the company over your solid proof btw). Japanese people are humongous fucking pussies, they assume the rest of the world will play ball with their retarded LARP of just shoving inconveniences to the side and pretend the product works perfectly.

>>714787523
It runs fine on console but unfortunately the game is absolute dog shit no matter how it runs so there's no reason to play it anyway.

>>714781101
They still use C++ for the Engine. They use C# as their scripting language. So if we interpolate what we see from games made in Unity/Unreal. The whole engine is written in C++. Then the game is around 70% written in C#, rest in C++.

C# is terrible for games, the industry will learn once a good game scripting language is ever pushed to the mainstream. Currently Verse is the my choice of a candidate for that, but it's still years before we'll see it in Unreal Engine.

>>714778945 (OP)
>planned lecture on how we didn't do it

>>714787571
I genuinely can't believe they made this game. It's literally just background noise for watching tiktoks.

>>714783993
>Simulations makes the game
There's someone retarded enough in that company who fully believes and applies that concept. A westard, most likely.

ISN'T WILDS SUPPOSED TO BE WORLDS 2.0? HOW DO YOU FUCK THIS UP?

>2ch copying 4ch domestic terrorirsm
>over vidya

lmao prince

>>714779549
It's very funny to think about but I actually would have loved to see it because I want to understand all the difficulties they've had to deal with during development, MHWilds development has been insanely slow and optimization of the game seems so impossible that there HAS to be something fucked up with the game, or RE engine, or the devs, or all three, I just need to know, I want to know what the fuck happened.

>>714803280
They took the aspects people liked about World and Rise and made them bad while making the bad ones worse.

>>714778945 (OP)
Had it coming. Releasing poorly optimized games should be mocked more often.

>>714778945 (OP)
They broke into the house of the guy who made No Mans Sky several times because they were really upset. Now im not condoning this level of violence, but people at Capcom or Todd Howard always got away with it like its nothing, maybe people deserve to be upset

>>714789958
Wilds has vastly better aesthetics than World, or at least it would have if you took out the anti soul gas and the horrible resolution.

Wilds would legit gain 2 whole ass scorepoints if the game had smooth framerate and you could actuallly see it, instead of gray fog and blurry grass all over the shop.

>>714786306
>>714792141

Idk how relevant game engines can or cannot be but I am quite confident that decima engine has not had a single bad looking game up until now so either miracle engines exist or the devs just didn't suck in that department, games using decima engine have a draw distance that doesn't cause cancer, the anti soul fog appears much further away, no artifacts, no fake frames, barely any pop-in, say what you will about Horizon games and the gay faggot sht in them but decima engine has enviroments easy on the eyes and Kojima prooved it can make humans that way too.

https://youtu.be/4ZSB4gOU6v8

>>714779978
the monster hunter team is just retarded pretty much every other new capcom game runs fine with the exception of dragons dogma 2

>>714803280
World 1 wasn't good either. So why would World 2 be good?

They're both movie games that put gameplay second with bad performance, shitty maps, bad multiplayer, bad roster of monsters that can't fight back, etc etc.
If anything you can't shit on Wilds without excusing World doing that shit first. But you're not allowed to point that out else the spergs go nuts.

>>714799787
nah, people eat it up and love to use it as a weapon for their culture wars, I already saw two youtube videos from MH youtubers telling the community to calm down and behave and how EVIL it is to threaten people over the internet and how MHWilds haters NEED to calm down and of course it's also a great excuse to downplay any criticism, after all, it's crazy derranged people doing it right? Internet death threats are so scary and serious!


Keep in mind that the average persong asps if you say the word "retard" in front of them cause it's le slur.

>>714804804
world ran pretty badly on release for the hardware we had at the time, you had to remove the anti-tamper that murdered your cpu, i believe they removed it themselves sometime later

>>714805064
well yes i did say the monster hunter team was retarded

>>714778945 (OP)
>release defective product
>get told off
>"AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE ITS A THIRD IMPAAAACT""

>>714786669
This guy pretty much demostrates your point:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/596279596963461544/

>>714786669
but we need to raise prices, because we have to pay more devs to do a worse job and take longer to do it

>Game is constantly running all interactions(ex a bug can paralyze a monster across the map)
>"Why does it run bad if it doesn't look different"

>>714805816
tbf monsters could also be paralyzed or get caught by a vine trap from across the map in world too

>>714785453
they're clearly talking about frame gen

>>714805064
one reason for IB success on PC is that the follow up GPU gens were still affordable with a decent increase in performance. I have so many friends on my steamlist starting after IB release when they upgraded but now look at the current gen. Barely any improvements but cost much more and prices only seem to go up. If this trend continues people can play Wilds and the expansion earliest in 2030+ unless you dont mind crappy console optics.

>>714805480
Damn, what it takes for 60 real fps

>>714806253
Meanwhile World at 120fps

>>714790307
PS6 Pro*

>>714805816
its funny how people who know nothing think this is even part of the issue

>>714785754
>terribly optimized
Outside a single zone that shit ran more smoothly than MHGU on the switch. Even the rampages with their 6 monsters at once ran fine.

>>714796806
>>714797059
360p PC looks 98% as good as 864p console while running at almost double the frame rate, not really looking like a win for the piss5 bro.

Wilds may be bad but not as bad as riseshit lol

>>714787523
no it objectively does not.

>>714806656
Optimisation means nothing if nobody plays your game

>>714778945 (OP)
what exactly could they lecture people about regarding optimization? lol
>here we see the game running at 30 fps upscaled from 240p at medium settings on a 4060ti

>>714778945 (OP)
Wow, cause and effect

>>714800937
It's fundamentally similar in concept. How can we interpolate a new image between these 2 images. There's a lot of overlap in the implementations of framegen and imagegen, it's mainly just the context that's different.

>>714803280

They made it even more dripfeed while making no worthwhile event quests and increasing the micro transactions. Plus they made the gameplay even more casual babby shit. And they make you sit out 90% of the game to listen to dialogue and watch cutscenes and thats all without touching the obvious DEI poisoning of the series.

>>714779415
Kinda crazy
For a few months they were hailed as the best Japanese pc dev out there
Flushed that good will so quickly

>>714804838

World may have been average to MH vets but it was a godsend for normies getting into the franchise. They streamlined the game enough without making it casual.

>>714807491
>They made it even more dripfeed
I really wish they would just make the G-Rank expansion. They aren't going to get me to log in for one monster at a time.

>>714806840
Keep coping all you want pcpoor, the statistics don't lie, the PS5 Pro is the best bang for the buck way to play AAA games and mogs 95%+ of all Steam user's PCs.

>>714806327
vaseline textures

At this point they should go back to shitendo, I will never own a tendie console but atleast that way they have some limitations and does not bloat mh with ultra realistic graphics, openworld or walking talking cinematic bullshit

>>714808019
Yet it looks objectively better than >>714806253 while having double the performance.

>>714807643

Im just telling you now to not hold your breath. I gave Crapcum a chance when Rise was developed during covid. I thought "Yeah Sunbreak is cringey dripfeed shit because it was a rough time to develop in". Now they really have no such excuse and are producing AI abomination shit content even with the full power of their development team.

Its only gonna be downhill here.

>>714806253
>>714806327
The color palette in Wilds is so fucked. Doesn't matter how many polygons your turd has, its still a turd.

>>714778945 (OP)
You literally cannot discuss video games online without corporate dicksuckers telling you to shut up. An entire generation so thoroughly brainwashed they are functionally the same as shilling chatbots

>>714808187
no shit

>>714778945 (OP)
Bruh, they get shat on even by japs, the biggest corpo cocksuckers, literally picrel the nation. They fucked up bad and have no one else to blame, but themselves.

Meanwhile mh portable 3rd look like this without any upscaling btw

>>714806327
How do you get 120FPS?
>>714806253
This game will never be optimized.

>>714808397
The game's been out for like half a year people get tired of the same spergs camping all discussion spaces for the game

>>714806327
If you're using a nvidia card there is a good chance that the game runs better using DX11.

>>714808707
it's all games you cockriding faggot
thanks for the proof

And gu on switch look like this
Simulating everything logically did a number on modern games, thats why a mirror in a ps2 game still looks wayy better than any modern aaaslop

>>714808493
>they have no one to blame but the people harassing them but no charges were filed
Ftfy

>>714778945 (OP)
I am tired of this "criticism = harassment" meme that's been going on for over a decade now.

>>714788386
You might not believe this, but if the pc is running at higher resolution than 600p it will obviously run like shit, and still, it runs like shit on consoles too, consoles aren't magic, games run like shit on both if the game is shit.

>>714809131
nta but it runs great on ps5.
at least it runs waaaaay better than world did on ps4 and I had over 1k in that game with no issues.
Wilds looks and runs better.
in fact in my opinion Wilds have absolutely beautiful lighting and shadow effects.

>>714778945 (OP)
>uhm, we were going to discuss fixing the game be we can't because you've done a heckin' online harassment
fuck these nips, it's no wonder chinks and gooks are going to replace them

>>714809029
japs take a lot of pride in what they do and I think this is the very first time even their own country man shit on them in such huge quantity for the game being shit. Too bad jap laws are genuinely fucked and companies can sue the crap out of those people even if they are right.

>>714808820
Yes there are spergs trying to camp discussion spaces for every fucking game now I know most people are tired of it.

>Wilds is so bad that the Japanese have started calling out recent kusoge [GAME]: Wilds as an insult

>>714796351
>Meanwhile most jap games feel like every tree that can break is just a scripted event.
Because it is.
Japs will forever be stuck in "press X"-mentality.

>>714778945 (OP)
Isn't it crazy that when these mentally ill people from the far left infiltrated the video game companies and started enforcing their degenerate behavior on everybody is when these so called "Threats and Harassment" started? Weird.

>You have already chosen your pitiful end

Capcom games used to be very well optimised and ran perfectly. What happened?

>>714810951
who?

>>714778945 (OP)
I told you guys Monster Hunter Wilds was going to get the Dragons Dogma 2 treatment.
RE(tard) Engine is garbage when applied to other Capcom games outside of Resident Evil.

>>714811034
Suits want number to go up

>>714801896
losing 99.9% of it's launch players despite constant content updates is legitimately catastrophic
i think indieslop like terraria has better ratios than that and the game has been effectively finished for years now

>>714802498
>Japanese people
crapcom has been a glorified westoid company for a decade anon, half the people that work there don't even speak japanese and that's before counting the outsourced jeet studios

>>714811235
It worked just fine for Rise and DMC5

>>714804804
nah their switch 2 launch game also runs like ass despite having gameplay comparable to early ps1 titles. barely 4-6 entities on screen at once included

>>714811442
Because the maps are small

>>714806253
>>714806327
What the fuck is it with modern games that they literally look like smeary turds?
The worlds thumbnail looks perfectly readable, yet the wilds one you can see a dude, and that's it, everything else looks like vomit on a toilet.

>>714811442
Did it though? People barely looked Natural in those games in relation to their series counterparts with the gameplay being awkward.

>>714811442
>Rise
was a massive downgrade in comparison with world, but everything chalked it up to it being a non-mainline title on switch. that cope is now dead

I had fun with DD2
But I still think it wasn't worth the wait, it lacks the charm of DD1
If DD1 was like 0.3 of itsunos vision, DD2 was like 0.5, the other 0.2 was DDOnline
But I guess it's too late for hope at this point

>Turns out the only way to stop the cycle of eternal return is closing the game!

>>714791959
Yes, that's the retarded asspull they gave us, we know.

>>714809548
Crapcom is effectively a westoid company anon, and this has been the case for longer than you have been alive.

>>714788669
>Wilds will likely be too
Abandoned games don't have roadmaps

>>714811878
yes but they cant sue westoids for negative reviews.

>>714783993
Based. All game should have persistent AI simulations and physics based mechanics. Muh curated experience consolebabies need not reply.

>>714809465
>nta but it runs great on ps5.
it very much fucking doesn't, 40fps on PERFORMANCE mode in a pis5 pro is unacceptable

Resident Evil is probably the most consistently fun video game franchise.

>>714811442
Rise was far smaller in scope and had to be wrangled to barely run on the switch and DMCV is also a corridor simulator like RE itself which the engine was literally designed to do.

>>714786306
Anon please, let the tech illiterate thirdies complain about things they don't understand.

>>714812057
The funniest part is that it looks worse than world while having shittier perf. Honestly, I'm surprised people aren't more angry at this shit.

>>714812281
People are in fact mad, they just get drowned out by the hordes of hired jeets to shill the goyslop.

>>714812281
>I'm surprised people aren't more angry at this shit.
I thought the term "Capcultist" was just one of the many buzzwords people throw around in this shithole, but current day Capcom fans truly do behave like a kind of cult. These "people" WILL defend every single thing that Capcom does. They are not even fans of specific franchises, they are fans of a fucking company.

>>714787787
>tech that haven't been used
brown

>>714801896
It's literally only because we had an update a few days ago
before that it was at fucking 5k

>>714778945 (OP)
>>714780549
>meanwhile, at Capcom HQ
>Such disrespect! Fujisakamura-san, that's why we shourd never rerease on PC. Onry on consore!
>Hai, Murasakamoto-kun. Consore prayers possess honorabru humbre dignity. PC gaijin do not deserve monsutaa huntaa

>>714778945 (OP)
it's like if bungie had a conference for respecting their customers

>>714796460
You don't need a good product you need good preorders before c-suite bails on golden shareholder parachute

>>714812737
>Anon finding out people stop playing games when they finish them

>>714812852
based capcom
fuck pc niggers.

>>714778945 (OP)
> lecture about optimization
> can't optimize their game for shit

It's only fair they cancel it when they can't do whatever they are suppose to lecture about.

>>714812985
>"finishing" Monster Hunter
Retard.
Whatever helps you cope I guess.

>>714813061
Mon hun has never been a forever game, you eventually do everything.

>>714812852
Yeah they fucking wish they could do that. Putting their games on PC gave them plenty of sales they weren't expecting. Muramasa-san and Toyota-san are gonna have to deal with the fact that PC players don't mindlessly eat shit all the time. People aren't gonna mindlessly sit by and let thing be like the average console player would.

It's part of the whole experience of putting your games on PC in the first place. Have that shit work or fuck off and rely only on PS5 sales (which they won't because they know better).

>>714813198
Sure, let's go with that.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with Wilds specifically being barebones as fuck.

>>714779978
>is the entire company made up of pajeets
yes
yes it is
thats what outsourcing gets you

Lots of "people" on /v/ lately how don't talk about the games. They talk about everything surrounding the game, sales, concurrent players, the community (outside of here), engine (like they know what they're talking about it). But ask them to post their 8* tempered Steve TA, and the reply will be silence.

>>714812852
If this was true they might have to actually finish games before releasing them instead of shitting them out before the fiscal year is over.
I look forward to RE9 being a shitshow too.

>>714813208
Honestly crapcom may just be fucked long term like SE is now.
>Betray the JP market by not releasing on the switch AND make the games DEI goyslop.
>PiS5 and xboner sales are dogshit.
The only reason wilds wasn't a cataclysmic flop for them was due to the chinks buying it on steam.

>>714813569
If the game part isn't worth talking about, that's what should worry you, not that /v/ is doing the same as everyone else complaining about the industry and practices that surround said game.

>>714812985
>playerbase dropped like a rock 3 times faster than World did despite selling much more on PC and getting as much drip feed as possible
>discussion about the game in general also completely dried up in a month, when World was talked about non-stop for months
The game has no staying power and in general it's just a very bland experence that was fully tailored to newcomers and casuals.
The few TU stuff we got is good but the base game was so disappointing.

>>714813569
>proofs for Steve 8*
It's just a regular tempered, why would people post proof? It doesn't take longer than Mizu

>>714813839
No, that's not it. What worries me is the state of this community, not the game.

>>714813631
>declare PC as main platform
>More than half of Wilds sales are on PC
>go full blown anti mod cause you want control
>go full blown live service game banning people despite your online still works similar to old games
maybe they should stop letting old farts rule and tell the suits to fuck off once in a while

>>714813897
>playerbase dropped like a rock 3 times faster than World did despite selling much more on PC and getting as much drip feed as poss

This is a conclusion looking for an explanation not an observation. World released late on PC and had an accelerated TU drop schedule so the comparison is pointless.

>>714813569
OK, let's talk about the game part.
Explain to me how the gameplay in Wilds is good enough for me to put up with the shit performance and the myriad of other problems it has.
Explain why I shouldn't just... play a different Monster Hunter game instead.

>>714813839
>Capcom spends 4 years saying PC is their main platform
>Wilds sells majority of copies on PC
>PC port turns out to be shit, lot of people can't even play the game decently
>WTF WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT ENGINE AND PERFORMANCE AND SHIT????

I have a single friend who bought Wilds and he still has an issue where the game crashes every 20 minutes. Updated the game, the driver, everything. No matter what they add to the game, of course he's gonna keep talking about the technical problems.

>Capcom says PC is their main platform
>as a reward, I get a bunch of my Steam games pozzed with some shitty Third World DRM doing fuck knows what while NOT doing its actual purpose
I fucking hate this company so, so goddamn much.

>>714780960
Keep it up, King.

>>714814081
Oh yeah? Maybe you also have an explanation how Wilds numbers managed to drop even below the CURRENT World numbers? A game that got its last content update half a decade ago?

>>714778945 (OP)
>We're listening!
>Acts extremely tone deaf
>You guys are bullies!
Retards

>>714780960
>this shit is posted twice a day every day
>365 times and banned 17 times on /v/ alone

>>714814876
They will then tell you "we are just giving honest criticism"

>>714811442
It didnt work "fine" for Rise. It had similar falloff because of dripfeed. It just wasnt THIS bad.

>>714814081
>World released late on PC
A later release is often worse, not better, especially because the PC release didn't have any of the TU released that far on console
>accelerated TU drop
Wrong. They had to wait roughly the same time.
For example Kulve came out on console in April (3 months after release) and on PC in November (so also 3 months after PC release).

Wilds had every single advantage for success on PC compared to World.
It did manage to sell super well at launch due to hype but then, like I said, it dropped like a rock, much worse and much faster than World.

>>714815018
also rise has the excuse of the meme coof, this is straight up inexcusable

>>714815018
Rise at least wasn't a nightmare to run, so that made a bit of a difference. I was also one of the people who dropped Rise early on after I was done with the base game and a few Apex monsters. Wilds on the other hand, I refunded right away because trudging through awful performance just isn't worth it.

I love how all these online threats over the years have never been revealed
>just trust us :)

I dunno about quality but I find super funny how this game was memory holed in no time.
Literally the only time I heard about this game after release is when people were complaining about the performance lmao

>>714815117
Rise had a lot of excuses: meme coof, new engine, scrapping a bunch of work to make the map open like World instead of loading zone based, etc.
I played it on PC but from what I gathered the TUs had a lot more monsters/content added too.

>>714815185
go read steam forums
gamers and specially fake acconts throw hat shit around really easily
theres that one guy on steam who has pikachu1-19 accounts and toggles between which one is banned

>>714804804
They used to NOT be this way. The fact that they got P3rd to run on a PSP or 3U on a DS is almost as impressive as how shit the performance for Wilds is.

World (game that looks as good if not better than Wilds) runs at 60 FPS+ on my laptop with a 1050Ti btw.

bump xD

>>714808502
Based. Try the Switchaxe mate, best fun you'll have

>>714779978
>Go woke to hire cheap jeets
>Everything run like shit
>Peoples mad
>Stop its not our fault
lel self inflicted

>>714796460
They need poor people to have no jobs or entertainment to drive them into the military to gear up for the next big money suck war

>>714815329
Alright, so post the death threats addressed to Capcom employees
Where are they

>>714785781
Turn down your settings then.

I don't doubt Capcom employees have gotten death threats, people do sperg out like that.
This whole thing is still a massive cope and an attempt to divert attention away from the thousands of real, valid complaints about this piece of shit.

>>714779978
They're using AI (Actually Indians)

>>714813569
I'm gonna be real with you mate, after having put 3500+ cumulative hours into over 6 monhun games, I am not upgrading my graphics card just for Wilds.

I'll consider it when the G rank expansion got its final title update. Until then I emulate the oldgen games.

Works on my PS5 kek

>>714778945 (OP)
Fire them. I want the whole industry to crash so women trannys commies and niggers never ever consider gaming development again.

>>714816728
>Fire them. I want the whole industry to crash so women trannys commies and niggers never ever consider gaming development again.
None of them made Wilds
But keep coping