What went wrong?

>>714791297 (OP)
>lust-provoking image
>irrelevant, time-wasting question

No mods.

>>714791297 (OP)
Idk what you're on about. I've been enjoying the game ever since Absa came out and have been switching between her and Claren. If there is one thing I will say is a bit off, it's the lack of single-player content, but that's okay since I mostly played the game to play around online.

>>714791854
Game is great but no single player is a bit disappointing.
Absa is even more fun than she was in roa1, just like just about everyone in this game imo.

>>714791297 (OP)
Not enough art of Fleet taking human dick

>>714791297 (OP)
Not too much.

>>714791854
This. The game's great. It's the best platform fighter I've played since Melee and Project M. I've played it for probably 300 hours and I see myself playing it for more.
>no mod support
Planned
>story mode
Planned
>additional singleplayer content
Planned

It has enough players to support online matchmaking at all hours of the day in the US and EU, although I've heard that it's a Discord fighter for Asian players. If you want a "party game", you're better off waiting 1-2 years, but if you want a competitive platform fighter that's also fun to fuck around with friends in, it's good.

>>714791297 (OP)

Stay hatin'!

>>714793163
based cake dabbing on the tranny-chaser
pretty wild that the only thing standing between him and 2nd place was sparg0 making one stupid mistake

>>714793407
>based cake dabbing on the tranny-chaser
they are both tranny chasers

>>714793001
>xrd that low
Blazblue chads... we won

>>714793407
>one stupid mistake
Unironic skill issue.

>>714793898
>come from game where the ledge doesn't matter because you just recover for free and ledge trump anything
>loses grand finals by not ledgehogging
We call that poetry

>>714791297 (OP)
they didn't add elliana

i suspect that with traditional fighting games widely embracing rollback netcode post covid and the ability to compete online flawlessly, platform fighters lost their appeal to many. Lots of smash players tried sf6 or strive and permanently moved on. I remember years ago people CRAVED melee 2 and now that it's basically here no one gives a fuck anymore

>>714794713
>Lots of smash players tried sf6 or strive and permanently moved
Lots of smash players started playing other fighting games during/after covid and continued playing both. Leffen most controversially.

>>714793041
Ngl that was a sick clip, anon.
>If you want a "party game", you're better off waiting 1-2 years
Yeah, basically this. Though for me, the 1 to 2 year mark is more of me wanting to see Guest characters in the game like Rivals 1 (only after they've added back all the Rivals 1 characters of course). I loved seeing how someone like Ori plays in a platform fighter, so I've loved the idea of them doing that again, but with different characters, and if the game has a long enough life span (which I think it will, because Smash is MIA for about 3 years at least).
Even got a list of "I loved to see blank in Rivals 2".
>Yi from Nine Sols
>Mina the Hollower (if they can't get Shovel Knight back)
>pic related
>Gunvolt (Dog form would make for a funny fighter)

>>714795153
riddles, void, etc. But also the non pro players. I have the feeling comp plat fighters just ran their course and traditional fighters are on a resurgence. But that's just my impression, maybe i'm wrong

>>714795418
Im a casual and got (at least more) into fighting games during covid personally. Still a casual at both but i know im not the only one.

Nothing is really wrong with the game itself (although playing against fleet is utter misery)
I just dislike the playerbase

>>714795825
>t. Smash tourneyfag

>>714795825
let me guess troon infested too? It's an epidemic in the whole fightan genre

uhhh i stopped playing when they nerfed fleet to the ground and completely changed her neutral game. fuck that im not learning a completely new game every 3 months.

Reminder that dan said nothing when hax died

>>714794713
I have a few friends who play or played both 2D and platform fighters
>one of them was sick at Melee and a respectable PR in his region, but stopped playing Melee because of the community, refuses to play RoA2
>one "got bored of platform fighters" and refuses to play RoA2
>one is an Ultimate player who started playing SF6, also refuses to play RoA2
>one just got bored of fighting games in general
They mostly just come across as stubborn, which is how I would describe fighting game players in general. They just won't give the game a chance. They'll play a few friendlies, but I have to blatantly sandbag because I actually learned how to play the game. They go online and get their asses beat because they either don't know how or refuse to learn how the game works, and then go back to playing what I call their "comfort games".

They just say blatantly wrong things about RoA2 and won't dedicate any time to learning how it actually works, although some of their criticisms are perfectly legitimate.

>>714796608
why would he?

>>714795825
I don't mind the playerbase except for the trannies, who are an inevitable part of every fucking fighting game community

>>714796896
>HE JUST SHOULD OK???
Way to make closeted furries look normal by comparison tourneyfags.

>>714797552
wut

>>714791297 (OP)
Sex with everything in that picture

>>714797970
Except maypul. She is offlimits (picrel)

>>714798513
It's me
I'm the human boyfriend

>>714791297 (OP)
They over-nerfed the rat. I demand they return her to her former glory post-EVO.

>>714799905
I think she's in a perfect place, except the floorhugging change ended up hurting her approach options. I main her, really fucking fun character.

>>714791297 (OP)
>What went wrong?
They refuse to capitalize on their female characters

>>714803670
They're clearly aware based on the Absa swimsuit skin
>but it's not skimpy enough
Give it time and Fleet's is also pretty cute

>>714791297 (OP)
The original is only good because of workshop support. That's it

>>714791297 (OP)
I dont think I like the speed of 2's Kragg so I don't think I'll play it really

>>714804608
Its the best nonsmash platfighter with a mugen workshop as the cherry on top, and im sick of pretending its not. (At least until rivals 2 which is debatably a better base game)

>>714794461
I get they had to make the zoner hard to play to filter out spamming tards which is cool but shes not what the game needs.

I feel like they could easily bounce back if they start focusing on casual content. Lore recaps for Rivals 1 and Dungeons. Collectables that give info about each character to explain where their from and their goals. Maybe even what their favorite food is. just something to keep people engaged in the world outside of getting shined by zetterburn.

>>714805016
>debatably
I feel like RoA2 BTFOs RoA1, but maybe that's just me. RoA1 was also a shitshow for a long time, both mechanically and aesthetically. People love to argue about ledges, shields, and grabs taking away from the game's identity, but to me it just feels like a more refined iteration of RoA1's hyper-offensive gameplay and fun off-stage game.
While I was watching all the GomL top8s this weekend, I couldn't help but think
>man
>smashfags would love this game if you took this gameplay, painted over it with nintendo IPs, and called it smash 6
but people just don't care. Hopefully the game's in a more complete state when it gets a console release, because that's going to be a lot of people's exposure to it.

>>714791297 (OP)
Nothing I just got filtered because bad

>>714805463
>bounce back
The game's doing pretty well, all things considered. It has a small but dedicated core player base and the cosmetics and merchandise sell like hotcakes even though you don't need to spend a dime on the game to unlock the former. Tournaments have been entertaining and there's a good number of entrants (I think it matched Melee at either Combo Breaker or CEO, I can't remember which). I was surprised that that Orcane plush they made recently sold out in like less than 3 hours. People who like Rivals really like Rivals because they're fucking furries.

It seems like they're just on cruise control for the next 2-3 years of development.

>>714806352
based self-aware fighting game player
you have no idea how annoying it is listening to my friends bitch about this game with no self-awareness. if they complain too much while we're playing friendlies i'll specifically start doing the shit they claim is "impossible" or "doesn't exist" in rivals.

>>714806582
Playing this game with fg enjoyers sounds preferable to playing it with smashfags

>>714806582
Its a cool game but its hard as shit if you don't practice it regularly, easy to get frustrated when you're vs someone way above your skill level but you play a niche game you gotta step up or shut up.
I just played 5 rounds with a guy on random and got my ass handed to me, still fun though

abs

>>714809473
Pure unfiltered SEX.

>>714808179
>its hard as shit if you don't practice it regularly
lol what do you even need to practice in this game? this game unironically plays itself for you.

>>714811071
Oh my I didn't know we had an Aetherian rank player among us!

Mystery nigga (singular)

>>714805218
it doesn't matter what the game needs, it's what I want that matters

>>714791297 (OP)
>smash clone
>no good mods
>published by Ludwig the snake

>>714793698
Strive has been Debaddened

>>714814776
>>published by Ludwig the snake
kek just when rivalsfags thought they had finally rid themselves of the WoW nepo baby ludwig is outed as a snake anyways. Keep those review bombs coming

>>714812830
New character please. Like original.

>>714815005
What did he do this time

>>714816781
>held super BEERio Kart, a twitch event where streamers gather to get beligerently drunk(against Twitch ToS but Ludwig is a preferred talent so he gets to break the rules)
>invites mango the alcoholic
>encourages Mango to drink to what is detected as lethal level Blood alcohol toxicity "Mango just blew a .32, LETS UP THOSE NUMBERS"
>mango (who is supposedly so drunk he could die) air humps next to a woman
>the snipers are alerted and he is promptly killed on site, all sponsors drop him, and Ludwig goes to never have a monster like Mango present at any events ever again, and may God cast him into the deepest pits of Hell

>>714808179
I just don't understand the players who come from other platform fighters but still struggle with it to the extent of writing defeatist manifestos on Reddit. It's one thing for Sajam to not understand how neutral works in a platform fighter, but RoA2 is so straightforward for anyone who has touched another platform fighter, even Ultimate.

>>714817079
Oh, it's still that. Ludwig's a dumb cunt who straddles the line between businessman and egotistical frat boy. I don't give a damn that he decided to pour some money into the game, AeSt owns everything about the game and IP.

>>714817079
Good fuck mang0. Anyone who bad talks the white man should be cancelled.

>>714798847
Where did you get this picture of me

>>714793041
>plannned
>planned
>Planned
gay

>>714814902
I played it recently and it feels like a totally different game. Not necessarily better. It still doesnt feel like blazblue or gg imo. Not for me desu

>>714817798
Welcome to how it felt to play roa1 in beta. Dan will deliver.

>>714818117
Fair, I'm glad fights aren't over in 3 hits anymore but I get what you mean

>>714791297 (OP)
I want to like it, but it don't particularly like any of the characters.
Closest one is Orcane, but still don't really care much for him

>>714791297 (OP)
does this game not have shielding or any block mechanic, or am i thinking of something else?

>Make game geared towards the Melee competitive community and their autism
>It's fairly successful
>Make sequel
>It's objectively a better game, but isn't as popular with the community
>Forgot that Melee fags can't move onto superior sequels and will just gush over the original forever

Tactical blunder

>>714817798
Dan is revealing characters and doing dev Q&As from his fucking basement, they can't just throw money at singleplayer fags who do nothing to actually keep the game alive

>>714818451
that's the first game.
Rivals 2 removed all the unique mechanics to just copy smash 1:1 by adding ledges, shields, and grabs

>>714818451
You're thinking of the first game, 2 added
>shields
>ledges
>grabs
1 had a parry button, which 2 also has

>>714818580
Dan wanted to include all of these in 1 though

>>714791297 (OP)
It doesn't really need to exist. Everything the characters do in AoR2 could be alts, mods and patches in the first. Everything it wants to be, is a niche market space it's aiming for that has failed multiple attempts from other things before. Everything it could be, isn't really what AoR1 fans seem to care for in the majority.

The way I know this game was a failure is even after a year or so after release, the game has little to no porn.
Like it or not, it is a really accurate and easy way to measure success for a game. Especially a furfag game.
Almost no porn whatsoever.

>>714818963
I know youre a pornbrained tourist, but 1000+ current players at all times is extremely good for a fighting game 1 year after release. Let alone an indie fighting game. The devs wont bend the knee to porn fags either and every character model will be unsexualized cute.
Cry about it.

>>714818963
They made a full wario ware clone game and gave it away for free as an april fools joke because of how much money they make from skins.

>game for people who want to have sex with children AND animals
>what went wrong?

>>714818941
my brain is fucking retarded and swapped RoA into AoR, fuckin hell

>>714818941
This is probably my least favorite stupid argument about the game

>>714791297 (OP)
>Recoveries are too strong
>Ledge is boring
>Shit scared to slap Zetterburn on the wrist because it'll piss off the Melee crowd
>No early access tag on Steam yet is early access
>Overpriced skins, stingy with what can be earned without paying in an already premium game
>Barebones tutorial
>Lack of casual modes
>Volatile servers in some regions

>>714817079
Based, never liked that smarmy alcoholic. Man the Melee scene is a mess now, really unravelling.

>>714822501
This poster has 2,000 unclaimed Aether bucks in old monthly events

>>714805463
They need to finish the tutorials before doing any significant single-player content.

>>714816642
iirc in a pre-launch stream they said they want to release at least one new(actually new) character per year.

>>714823215
I posted about this on the Nolt board and Dan responded with an informative comment, if you want to read it: https://rivals-of-aether-ii-patch-130-feedback.nolt.io/33
tl;dr
>our own experience suggests that tutorials aren't the magic bullet that people believe them to be
>mechanics are still significantly changing patch-to-patch
>we prefer to teach players through singleplayer content
>we're a small team and the guy who would be working on tutorials is working on other things
>tutorials, localization, and console release are "tied up together"
They're not deaf to the tutorial thing, I think they just know that the game can tank the negative feedback from lacking them now.

>>714824210
They said their OVERALL release goal was 50% returning, 25% exists in lore but not playable, and 25% brand new. But that remains to be seen

>>714824517
Normies care more about singleplayer campaign than tutorials tbqh

>>714824210
New might mean characters from spin-offs. I think there's a strong argument for Master Cai being the next DLC character, considering an appropriate stage for him was previewed in the roadmap, he's a new character, and water seems like the most likely element to get a new character next (La Reina is earth, fire is already stacked, and air would probably get Elliana before a new character).

>>714824715
>>714824210
Bug grappler confirmed for autumn
She better play like incineroar, that shit is the most fun you can have in ultimate other than hero.

>>714817798
What were you expecting, a finished game? Don't be silly anon

>>714825083
Also they teased a new stage in the patch notes for Absa, which is close to this stage. Either it's not the same stage, or they decided to make it an actual new stage instead of a merchant port reskin like it was in RoA1.
Top platforms are narrower than that, but you get the idea.

>>714825183
It's depressing the only frame of reference Smashies have for grapplers is "Incineroar" because Urdah from Rushdown Revolt is a far better realized grappler archetype.

>>714825183
Dan made an off-hand comment about Reina releasing before GTA 6. I wouldn't complain if she's next though. I hope her animations have a lot of personality.

>>714791297 (OP)
Too many furries

>>714825183
What do you mean by "She better play like"? She's a Rivals 1 workshop character. You could have tried her out a year and a half ago https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3137450762

>>714825660
>that swag walk animation
>can summon a steel chair that blocks projectiles
>can launch herself to the chair
>can fuck around off-stage
>dash attack ledge cancels into a spike
>taunt cancels
Cool character. Also she's an insectoid musclegirl so as an added bonus she repels both furries AND trannies.

>>714793001
/thread

recently picked up rivals of aether 1 since it was cheap on steam, it is pretty good, the characters and stages are very well designed going into it just to tinker with workshop guys but the core game is pretty good, might get on Rivals of Aether 2 earlier

>>714828072
s'good game

>>714825345
I love Orcane

>>714791297 (OP)
>Multiversus had iconic mascots, was free 2 play, was mass shilled, by a multibillionaire company
>Indi furry tranny game beats it

it all comes back to gameplay

>>714791297 (OP)
recoveries are too good
combos dont kill until 150+

>>714829679
Maybe against kragg.
If you want good edgeguarding git gud.

>>714829506
MVS had a much higher peak and general level of interest, but at no point in its life was it ever a good game.

>>714791297 (OP)
nothing went wrong

>>714829679
Recoveries are fine except for a few edge cases:
>Kragg
They seriously need to nerf his pillar-less upB so it actually feels like you're expending his recovery resources.
>Clairen
Annoying how she can safely teleport to ledge with sideB, but she gets raped by refreshing ledge invincibility and there's a universal Marth-killer that's easy to do with buffering.
>Maypul
Annoying fucking rat creature that's just hard to hit, period. You have to trade with her to kill her off-stage.

Everyone else is fun and easy enough to edgeguard.

>>714809473
gote

>>714830573
>>Maypul
>Annoying fucking rat creature that's just hard to hit, period. You have to trade with her to kill her off-stage.
Maypul's recover is like bottom 2 in the game, you're just bad.

>>714795825

>>714830691
i wish titties existed in the aetherverse

>>714831575
Monkey's paw. You really want more porn addicts (furries/trannies) playing this game? Q

>>714830691
That is a good pic tho gj, i think i prefer it to your earlier image with the "fluff" chest.

>>714831292
I just can't hit her for whatever fucking reason

>>714831676
But doctor, I am Pagliacci.

>>714831940
>Pagliacci
Pls explain.

>>714832217
Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, 'Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up.' Man bursts into tears. Says, 'But doctor…I am Pagliacci.'

>>714830573
How is it possible to hate Clairen's side b recovery while also not complaining about Orcane

>>714832972
I actually have a real reason: they patched Orcane's side special to have both a bigger hurtbox and more recovery frames, meaning it's possible to punish even if it's spaced properly. Clairen is not only tangible for fewer frames than Orcane, but her hurtbox is just her normal hurtbox. Orcane's is a big sphere that extends slightly above his body and is still active during the 1-2 frame hitbox of side special. So they made Orcane's easier to punish, but never applied the same logic to Clairen's.

Orcane is a cocksucker off-stage for other reasons, however. Even without his puddle, he's a fat fuck who has a surprisingly easy time recovering with wall jump.

>>714795418
Riddles moved to Street Fighter because he's already played Ultimate for 6 years and it's stale now. He's pretty clear about the fact that he's still going to play the next Smash game. Void plays everything, whether it's platform fighters or traditional fighters. I think he's mostly moved on from competitive play though, he plays for like two months and then quits after he gets bored.

postan some cool combo videos
i'd webm but i can't rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBBS4RMKAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3K9LmTxBeE

>recoveries are too good
always said this about post-melee smash, surviving just feels brain dead and unearned in those games

>>714833664
>first clip in the first link is just an offstage combust kill
Immediately closed the video

>>714829679
Exactly this but also floaties. Fighting a floaty with a floaty feels like garbage. floaty vs floaty is like the intermissions in mario kart world just not fun while normal or heavy weight character match ups are fun like the 3 lap tracks.

>>714835420
you should actually watch the rest of it, it's just to show off the combust buffered slideoff tech. the combuffer if you will.

in all seriousness the rest of it is really cool. i love forsburn as a character, but i suck ass at playing him.

>>714835640
R2 floaties matches are like a flick in the dick relative to shit like Puff:Puff or Peach:Puff

>>714830573
Every character in the game aside from maybe maypul can recover from fucking narnia

>>714829679
The combos are too easy to input
Theres not enough depth to neutral, it's too simplified
The heavies aren't slow
Characters aren't unique enough
Every character has a gimmick (this is a bad thing)

>>714812830
is the ant
did everyone forgot about her? It was confirmed to be part of the season since release

>>714791297 (OP)
Pirate software touched it.

>>714832927
Brilliant

I kinda hate how they introduced shields and ledges, as well as removed whifflag, they standardized Rivals when a bunch of the things I liked about it were the ways it was different (better in my opinion) from Smash

>>714818762
From what I remember not including Shields was a limitation, but for Rivals 1 he deliberately avoided adding Ledges, I don't want to go digging around for the quote though

>>714838686
They confirmed she's next year

>>714837756
If you let them, sure. You're supposed to get out there and hit them because you also have the resources to make it back from the blast zone.

>>714793001
>Killer Instinct still kicking
nice to see!

>>714843056
You aren't hearing me. Without being touched you should not be able to recover from literally anywhere on the map.

>>714845545
And why is this bad? Melee is 4 stocks because the off-stage interactions can be so volatile. Rivals 2 is 3 stocks and most games still go from 2:30 to 4:30 depending on the skill level of the players, with off-stage interactions often being longer than those in Melee (which also makes low % gimps less consistent, with some exceptions like Ranno's weak bair). The game has a good balance of on- and off-stage play, and off-stage play in Rivals 2 has its own distinct identity - different from Melee, PM, Ultimate, and even Rivals 1.

If you ported Rivals 2's recoveries into a game like Ultimate then yes, I'd agree that you should not be able to recover from the literally anywhere on the map. You'd just get Ultimate, a game where the risk:reward of edgeguarding is so poor that there was a collective need to convince themselves that "ledgetrapping" is not pussy shit. It's so poor because recoveries are free and the player in advantage rarely has the options or mix-ups to incentivize them to edgeguard. Rvials 2's off-stage play is different because it gives every character both universal and character-specific options and mix-ups.
>universal wall jump
>universal direction air dodge (like Melee's, but actionable like Ultimate's)
>secondary recovery resource that refreshes on hit (side specials, Loxodon't magma chargers, Forsburn's close and smoke shenanigans, Orcane's entire fucking recovery)
At this point I don't know how people don't understand how recoveries and edgeguarding are designed in Rivals 2. It's not just that recovering is good, edgeguarding is really good too. It gives both players a sense of agency when they're actually actively playing the game during long off-stage sequences; instead of, say, Fox just shining Falcon once every time he tries to recover.

I play and like almost all platform fighters, I'm just using Smash as a frame of reference.

>>714846741
>And why is this bad?
It makes for a game that doesn't feel satisfying to play. Same for the other point made here >>714829679
>combos dont kill until 150%
after a while it just becomes frustrating. You should not live that long on average, it gives that unsatisfying smash ultimate feel. After a while youll start thinking "OMG FUCKING DIE ALREADY WHY DO I NEED TO HIT YOU OFF THE STAGE OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE???". For someone that claims to care a lot about "game feel" he sure shits the bed in that aspect (talking about dan)

>>714791297 (OP)
nothing? its great, maybe the roster still needs some filling out

>>714796608
oh no an obsessive freak off'd himself, anyway

>>714812830
la reina i believe, who looks fucking rad btw

>>714796608
Rivals 2 would have saved the schizo's life if only he gave it a shot

>>714829679
i have literally never understood this, a good player can get a kill at like 90% against most of the cast

>>714847430
His followers tried really hard to get him to try it.

>>714791297 (OP)
Snake isn't in yet

>>714791297 (OP)
No Dr. Mario clone. Other than that, it's pretty good

>>714848003
bro said "dr mario" as if there is any meaningful difference between the two

>>714791297 (OP)
>furry smash bros clone
At least the first one had more unique gameplay

>>714848053
Mario and Dr. Mario play nothing alike, despite sharing a few common moves

>>714816781
Blamed the "Stop Killing Games" campaign for some of it's fans review bombing Rivals of Aether 2, despite there only being less than 10 negative reviews in the span of a day and most of them were just saying "I liked the first game better".
Basically, he either believed PirateSoftware's lies, or was lying himself. Only PirateSoftware's game got review bombed, and justifiably so considering it's a decade in development and barely half way done.

>>714793001
>SNK VS Capcom

>VIRTUA FIGHTER

What's going on here did we all transport to 1999 again that's crazy but amazing

there needs to be a character for people who like the following
-melee yoshi
-melee ness
-pm lucas
-melee mew2
-falcon
until all of these are in the game there will be no reason to play this over melee or pm. so far this game scratches the itch for melee peach/sheik lovers, and spacie spammers but this is not enough.

>>714848506
Retard who doesnt even know what made the first game good outside mugen shitposting

>>714850746
>mugen
I have no idea what that means. But please explain what you think made the first game good.

I want to destroy fleet

>>714851005
Why

>>714850984
Hitfalling>l-cancelling
Every character has a real stage control mechanic finally fulfilling the platfighter genre
And good balancing. (No one in particular is as bad as melee puff or trash ultimate dlc)

>>714855335
>Every character has a real stage control mechanic finally fulfilling the platfighter genre
Does this not count as "unique gameplay"? Every Smash game and smash clone I've ever played just boils down to playing on the ledge.

>>714850984
>>714855968
>Does this not count as "unique gameplay"?
...no?

>>714851005
I'd lose on purpose

>>714856114
Name a platformer fighter which doesn't just boil down to being 99% identical to smash bros, down to all it's flaws.
I haven't seen one other than RoA:1. By that merit, at least to me, RoA:1 is pretty unique.

>>714856276
psasbr

>>714822501
>Overpriced skins, stingy with what can be earned without paying in an already premium game
Skins are entirely cosmetic and give you no advantage. I occasionally buy a skin I like with the in-game currency I've accumulated, but removing them wouldn't change the game at all. I can't imagine caring about any cosmetics, let alone paying real money for them.

>>714793001
>No street fighter, no mortal kombat, no smash bros
The 2 biggest fighting game series and the biggest brawler and none of them are at evo. Is this the poor state of those franchises or the poor state of evo or both?

>>714856479
>I can't imagine caring about any cosmetics
I believe your imagination is broken

>>714856479
>Skins are entirely cosmetic and give you no advantage
1. So why the fuck do they exist?
2. Skins were historically always this and yet they were freely unlockable instead of being paid DLCs.
>the in-game currency I've accumulated
If you can get skins with the in-game currency, then why does the option to circumvent this, by paying more real money, even exist?

Answer: Scummy developers just want to increase profit margins.

Sorry, but a game is just trash if it includes in-game purchases.

>>714791297 (OP)
Furries

>>714857078
>Furries
Bruh, this game doesn't even have 2K images of it's characters on e621. I doubt there are enough furries to ruin a game which already started out as super furry given all the animal characters in rivals 1.

>>714856630
Okay, I can imagine it and I think it's gay.

>>714856945
>So why the fuck do they exist?
To make the game more visually appealing, and to make more money so they can continue to develop it, run servers, and yes, make more money. You wouldn't want to do that?
>Skins were historically always this and yet they were freely unlockable instead of being paid DLCs.
Charging for cosmetics, which can be earned in-game and many people will happily pay for, while releasing actual gameplay features like new fighters for free is a perfectly reasonable and generous business model. I'm thankful that I'll never have to spend more money on the game to get the full gameplay experience.
>If you can get skins with the in-game currency, then why does the option to circumvent this, by paying more real money, even exist?
See my answer to your first question. Does it really bother you that other people can buy (again, entirely optional) cosmetics that can be earned in-game? Do you not get satisfaction just from knowing that you earned them?

>>714857260
it doesn't matter how many porn does it have, it's entire presentation is based on furry characters

>>714857449
>it's entire presentation is based on furry characters
And that's a good thing, I'd prefer a game sticking to it's premise then trying to change it completely to fit a completely different box then what it started with. The game was upfront about there being furries in it from day 1 and if you're not a fan of that then your playing the wrong game.

I never played Smash Brothers at a remotely serious level and I never learned wave dashing, is that necessary to be competent at this game?

>>714857859
Then the point is correct furries is what went wrong, you are just a minority

>>714857315
>Does it really bother you that other people can buy (again, entirely optional) cosmetics that can be earned in-game?
Yes, because it defeats the entire purpose of earning a cosmetic item. It makes it completely pointless to NOT buy a cosmetic.
I'm generalizing here, not specifically talking just about this game.

>>714857894
Yes, but it's easy to learn and fun to implement.

They didn't give my wife a beach skin

>>714858208
Fair enough.
Are any of the cute female characters beginner friendly?

>>714858492
Clairen is quite good noob friendly.

>>714857859
Nta, but I feel like that limits it's potential audience reach combine that with the game not having sexulised designs like samus/palu. a hades guest character doesn't seem likely unless they get turned into a furry which would be less appealing to fans of that game, this probably played a part of why work shop was popular.

>>714791297 (OP)
It's a furry game so none of my friends will play it with me

>>714858492
The only beginner unfriendly character is Absa imo. Everyone else is accessible to start with provided you learn how their recovery works.

>>714858695
>>714858793
Thanks for the input, friends.
I've been curious about this game for a while, might as well take advantage of the sale.

>>714858025
>It makes it completely pointless to NOT buy a cosmetic.
The point is to get it without paying for it. I don't care that other people decide to spend irresponsible amounts of money on video games.
>I'm generalizing here, not specifically talking just about this game.
Your criticism makes much more sense for a game like, I don't know, Animal Crossing, whose entire purpose is arguably to collect items that look nice, but for a fighting game I see no harm in it. Again, the actually important stuff—new fighters, for which other games like Smash charge money—is free. They need to make money to support the game, and out of all of the ways to do it—subscription models, season passes, paid DLC fighters, charging more for the base game—they've chosen probably the most generous and inconsequential.

>>714858860
Be sure to read the wiki https://dragdown.wiki/wiki/RoA2

>>714858771
Anon... I can be your better friend.

>>714858942
>The point is to get it without paying for it. I don't care that other people decide to spend irresponsible amounts of money on video games.
Okay, now please tell me how are they supposed to be making money out of this game?

Does the game have a single player mode?

>>714859229
Basically no SP content.

>>714859256
That's unfortunate
Also means I'm definitely waiting until 50% off or more

>>714859181
A lot of people care about cosmetics and are too impatient to earn them or happy to support the developers in return. It seems to be working.

>>714859304
Come back in half a year. Maybe chapter 1 story will be out by then.

>>714858741
I think the no sexulised design part is a lot more damaging given that means there's no one to get eyes on you're game for basically free. As for some guess characters not being able to show up because there not ta;lalking animal people and thus hurting the game in that regard. I agree it is limiting but I still feel there's a few characters they could add that would work for getting people from other series to play for a bit. You could have The Knight or Hornet show up for one and they could bring back Shovel Knight as well. That being said I think getting the workshop up and running would help this game in the long run.

>>714859340
Remember launch week when people were devising offline farm methods for skins? Talk about impatient lol

>>714858942
>The point is to get it without paying for it
Do you not realize the toxicity of taking advantage of people's psychology by adding an option to pay for something that's already freely unlockable in-game? Do you not realize that this completely devalues not only the DLC but the overall game?
>They need to make money to support the game
Last time I checked the game costs $25.

>>714804701
r1 kragg.. home...
also i miss wall teching so fucking much man, it set edgeguarding apart and made for some really high stakes action if you were both down there. now you just stand by ledge and wait

>>714859853
>25dollars can support a team of 30 developers
You just bankrupted your development studio in a week

>>714818762
limitation breeds creativity

>>714859853
>the toxicity of taking advantage of people's psychology
Get a grip. It's a product and they're charging for it, while allowing you to earn it by playing the game—which you should be doing anyway—if, like me, you don't want to pay for it. Sounds like a win-win to me.

>>714860740
>only one person has bought the game

is casual still dead? im not an ultimatetoddler so i dont like ranked, but last time i played a few months ago ranked was the only place to find playable opponents

>>714861579
Casual was never dead. wut

>>714861579
>is casual still dead
Considering it's down to only a couple of hundred active players, it's safe to say that casual is indeed dead.

I'm a diehard Clairen main, but as a character (piecing it together just from multiplayer, I don't know the lore) she's really fucking boring. Am I wrong?

>>714823029
literally who cares about that

>>714858771
Get friends that aren't shit

>>714861701
Lox, bad! Why? Because he is!

>>714861579
>im not an ultimatetoddler so i dont like ranked
what the fuck does that even mean

>>714861778
bold choice of Dan to paygate the only story rivals of aether has

>>714861676
>>714861698
i mean if the people in casual are bad and not worth playing against, its just a waste of time to play against people who couldnt top 8 a weekly

>>714862030
i dont like playing only one bo3, which ultimate players enjoy for some reason

>>714862497
Then add people to friends and play them in private lobbies

>>714862497
>if the people in casual are bad and not worth playing against, its just a waste of time to play against people who couldnt top 8 a weekly
I don't think you understand what the point of a "casual" game is

>>714791297 (OP)
how pitiful is it that you need to make these covert "What went wrong??" ragebait threads in order to get people to talk about your degen furry smash ripoff

>>714864439
im not confident enough for that

>>714864485
this is why it should never have been changed from exhibition
i said it 7 years ago and i was right