Apparently it's gonna be a thing by the end of the year. Is there any company actually working on this outside of flowery language? Actual examples of these models being used to generate actual gameplay?

>>714806023 (OP)
i made a pretty cool falling sand game with claude

>>714806103
something like this?

>>714806023 (OP)
It's going to be so fucking funny seeing these retards spend billions on something that's plateau'd already

>>714806023 (OP)
Musk's estimates are always 3x off.

>>714806545
So, we will have it by 2029?

>>714806023 (OP)
i will never play anything generated by AI

>>714806849
>i will never play anything generated by AI
>posts on /v/

>>714806023 (OP)
Watch all vidya becomes this

https://youtu.be/hgoOq0_T8ew?si=Fx7RRARLXZF4N1EI

>>714806023 (OP)
It won't happen, but it would be really funny if a game like Star Citizen was made with AI faster than Imperium is making theirs. If it's complete ass it's even better since that would be within robert's vision.

>>714806727
I wouldn't be surprised.
It'll probably be super limited in scope, streaming only, and overall quite shit, but with how video gen has progressed it's pretty easy to see how that could be made into a game as it advances.

>>714806023 (OP)
>Apparently it's gonna be a thing in two more weeks trust the plan
ftfy

>>714806023 (OP)
>by the end of the year
We still aren't capable of generating videos made by AI longer than 10 secs, making entire videogames is still years ahead

>>714807253
I'm just going off of what the guy said. I think real life Ironman would be more knowledgeable on the subject than you or I

>>714806023 (OP)
i'd take beep boop rng over mandated muttslop

>>714807346
speak english

>>714806912
Aside from the filthy poos who are basically just an extremely vocal minority and think AI is somehow going to pull them out of their lives of poverty, AI is generally considered shit on /v/ and faggots who insist that these AI generated games (which conveniently never have playable builds) are right around the corner are constantly laughed at.

>>714807318
>Trusting the retard who tanked his company's stocks with a single truck with some of the most retarded design decisions imaginable

>am artist
>sketch idea
>use comfyui to generate a bunch of colored alts and clothing variation of idea
>refine the one i like most
>process it again
>can spit out various poses/expressions of it
almost feels like cheating to me with how much this is making me accelerate on project

>>714807741
>trusting the richest man in the world (400 Billion and counting) over a random on /v/

>>714807850
you're doing it the right way. People who leverage AI to augment their processes will beat out the ones who don't

there will be an infinite catalog of games and none of them made by human bros... beautiful...

>>714808161
good, have you SEEN the games made by humans recently?

>>714807919
The fact that he's running his companies into the ground just proves being rich doesn't mean you know what the fuck you're doing or what you're talking about.

>>714808374
stay on topic, this is about ai-generated games. I won't tell you again.

And why would anything made by AI have any value at all? Do soulless subhumans get hyped by this stuff like with nfts?

>>714808347
Yeah, still plenty of good ones being made. If you actually played games instead of spending all your time obsessing over the latest AAA game drama you'd know that.

shallow

and pedantic

You know what'd be a great use of AI? An AI model for this board that autosages twitter screencap and AIslop threads

>>714807318
The "real life Ironman" is also a public cocaine aficionado and loves to hype things to increase the value of his companies and if you didn't know he was part of OpenAI before and now owns Grok and other AI related projects, so of course he has to sell the bike to people who don't know anything about the actual state of AI

>>714807850
undo buttons and layers with all the processing were already cheating by prior standards.

>>714806023 (OP)
If it ever becomes a full-fledged thing, it'll be used to make casinos/gachas en masse and somehow exploited into porn games.

>>714811229
After I went from digital to painting in real life I unironically started to feel like I'm cheating when using my tablet.

>>714809641
Man I wish, can you imagine? It's almost painful not living in that world.

>>714807850
>>714807982
If you faggots don't want to be compared to crypto and NFT niggers then you shouldn't keep posting the exact same linkedin sounding bullshit they did when they were trying to shill their garbage here

>>714806023 (OP)
Don't care until it can do quality H-games.

>>714812256
not even worth listening to faggots like you. AI is here to stay whether you like it or not. Adapt or die.

>>714807318
>real life Ironman
I mean this in the most literal sense: please kill yourself.

>>714809641
>>714812085
guess we'll have to wait until GPT5

>>714806023 (OP)
Few years back I predicted that people could just AI games into existence.
I was told I was wrong and that I suck dicks.
Who's sucking dicks now, huh!?

>boot up AI game
>spin the camera 360 degrees
>everything has changed because AI has no fucking permeance

>>714812874
>everything has changed because AI has no fucking permeance
yet

>>714812874
Sounds like a perfect horror game then.

>>714806023 (OP)
>>714806545
Musk said there would be humans on mars by now.

>>714813706
stop making up shit, they just released their Mars roadmap recently

>>714807318
>real life ironmam
Except that's wrong. He's just some dude who lucked out on hopping on a few bandwagons and hyping up those bandwagons before others, and he's ultimately managed to crash and burn those bandwagons in the most spectacularly retarded ways.

>>714814193
I wish the left would stop being so retarded about Elon. It's so depressing seeing people act like drooling retards.

>>714806023 (OP)
You've heard of Indie Games and AA games and AAA games but now get ready for AI games.

>>714806023 (OP)
just like full self driving, ain't that right Elon?

>>714813868

Remember when Elon almost considered buying 4chan?
I doubt he would ever really do it though because he is too concerned about making money and 4chan is a "monetary black hole" - per moot.
Like seriously I've never heard of a website that can't afford to archive their own posts.
Tumblr, twitter, instagram, facebook, they keep up all these images and videos for years, but 4chan deletes a text post every few days because it's too much storage cost.
Lol.

>>714813706
There are

>>714812874
>spin the camera 360 degrees
solution: disallow weird behaviour like this

>>714814283
>retard hanging off every word that comes out Elon's mouth and automatically believes everything he says without a single shred of skepticism
>thinks he's in any position to call anyone drooling retards

>>714813868
>30x payload capacity in ten years
best wishes

>>714814613
damn, guess you missed the "initial" on that chart there. I can understand, it would require a functional IQ to see it

>>714806023 (OP)
>Musk
Still parroting this grifter's nonsense?

>>714806023 (OP)
youre retarded for not only believing the king grifter but also for thinking that AI is anything more than autocorrect.

>>714814923
The initial point is still correct. The original estimate was off. But I guess a gutless faggot like you can't stomach being wrong in any way, shape or form, huh?

With the way AI is now, the only way an AI-Generated game would probably good is if whoever's "making" the game goes in on the surrealism or liminality or whatever the fuck zoomers call it.

All I can see coming from this is a "golden age" of Yume Nikki/LSD Dream Emulator clones (but it's ai sloppa)

>>714815058
why do you think you can't auto-game

>>714815101
probably be** good

Anybody that knows anything about genAI knows that the processing power needed to make anything like a complete AAA experience isn't close to being possible with even the most advanced technology we have. I wouldn't be surprised if AI hype is an arms race that the Chinese are pretending to be involved in, because they know American corporations and investors are retarded enough to fall for idiots like Elon and Altman. It's gonna be really funny to see the American economy invest so much into yet another nothingburger technology that ends up being fucking nothing, just like crypto and NFTs and the metaverse, and for China to emerge as the sole economic superpower because of it.

>>714814283
>believes in (((political))) theatre
how very normiecore grim-pilled of you

>>714814923
Initial mars mission meaning those are the plans to start colonizing mars. He says in 2024 they want to fly 4 ships to mars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHaPj9YuGYw

So what happens to copyright laws if free AI generated games starts rolling out on mass with actual content that challenges 100$ AAA games?

>>714807318
real life cringe man is an NPC, he was signing the OK for his son to get transd until he realised maybe it was a bad idea to treat autism with castration. He was shilling for gay rights and diversity during the same era and now he's flip flopped to the opposite train. Now hes going crazy about the national debt because the all in podcast told him its the next smart tech man position to hold. Everything about him is fake, retarded and autistic.

>Giving this fat retard any attention when it comes to video games
The only thing Elon would make is an indian cop dick sucking simulator.

>>714806023 (OP)
Do we really want games that require 100x the electricity and compute power for barely more believable graphics (theoretically, it might just look like interactive slop)?

>>714806023 (OP)
No thank you, I'll skip.

>>714807346
I'd just stop playing games

>>714815504
AI will improve fidelity and performance though, that's why we can run ray tracing you know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQCjetSrvf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQctoORQwLE

>>714815504
Don't forget about hallucinations. Story-telling AIs can barely keep track of even basic things like location and character state, forget about keeping track of things like game worlds, enemies, health etc. It's absolute madness to think that technology that can't even replicate Colossal Cave Adventure would be able to create AAA games.

>>714815732
>I'd just stop playing games

>game mechanic is 100% determined by artificial intelligence
>game mechanic is determined by AI
It's amusing seeing an AI game say their mechanics are "AI generated". I imagine, does an ultra-advanced AI randomly decide whether to make a platformer or shooter?
It's another AI dungeon-reskin slop. maybe it's kinda close to a text adventure game from the dawn of computers if you're analyzing "mechanics". There's lots of hype like that with no substance.

>>714814923
>initial plan was to land 2 ships on Mars in 2022 and 4 ships in 2024
>didn't make that goal
>its 2025 and now they're expecting to land 5 ships in 2026 and fucking 20 ships in 2028, and then a god damn hundred ships on Mars in 2030
>despite still having not put a single fucking thing on Mars yet
The initial plan just drives home how retarded their current plan is. They didn't even come close to meeting their goal for 2022 much less 2024 yet they fucking plan to accomplish more than double their initial goal within a mere three years of failing the first time around. You're kind of retarded if you can't see how stupid that is.

>>714815101
finally a good post

>>714816358
everything depends on the 2026 mission. If that goes tits up like their last few launches have then things are gonna get set back a huge deal

As I always say, advances in AI will generate new forms of entertainment, not video games.
In fact, there are already many people roleplaying with AIs, something that didn't exist five years ago, so we already have a new form that will become much more sophisticated when corporations start exploiting it for profit.
Within decades, if AI continues to advance, we may have lucid dream generators. You will see audio-visual content generated in real time and you will be able to interact with it like a dream.
In practice, what this will mean is that normalfags will abandon video games en masse for this new technology that is more suited to their tastes. Consider that many of them already play video games for this purpose, such as Dead Red Redemption 2, Last of Us 2, and a huge number of these "normiecore" experiences aim to put the player in a cinematic experience, and these games will disappear completely when lucid dream machines become commonplace.
Video games will once again become a niche thing for those who want challenge and gameplay, rather than those who want interaction with audio-visual content.

>>714815445
https://x.com/ShawnRyanShow/status/1942260072966390073

>>714812758
Well, maybe you, and some other anons here. But definitely your mother as well. That is fact.

>>714806023 (OP)
Is anyone genuinely retarded enough to actually want AI slop "games" or just corpo rats like musk?

>>714817014
can't be worse than the current human-created sloppa

>>714816864
delulu take

>>714817014
You underestimate brown people

>>714813868
Hold on, I'll save this so I can wipe it out in 2035 when Musk is still posting on X on all day and we haven't done shit with this.

He's a smoke and mirrors artist that backs it up with a handful of innovations in sectors he has a near monopoly in because he's a welfare queen.

>>714817645
heres a brown person right now

I keep seeing people say how llms are shit
And that ai hasn't improved
Yet i am using gemini 2.5 pro and building things with it that I could never accomplish.
The memory on its huge at 1million context. It never forgets.
Are the people bashing ai just people that used it years ago and still think it's the same?

>>714816535
Every depends on retards like you continuing to fall for the con. Hope Trump deports this uber faggot by 2026.

>>714817645
>that backs it up with a handful of innovations in sectors he has a near monopoly in
If that was true that would still make him a god compared to most humans
>because he's a welfare queen.
What welfare? Do you mean contracts to provide a service?

>>714806023 (OP)
Melon Husk is a fuckin' tard.

>>714813706
He said there'd be people on mars in 10 years in 2011 (so by 2021), therefor with the 3x rule there will actually be people on mars by 2041, which seems feasible.

>>714806023 (OP)
Honestly, I just want an AI-rendered, AI text-based game that does not take hours for each message to complete

>>714817820
>continuing to fall for the con
What con?
Wasting money on going to Mars?
How does falling for it do anything when it's a private company

>>714806849
Fuck off you retarded nigger.

>>714817984
>He said there'd be people on mars in 10 years in 2011
Watch the actual clip and not the title
He says 10 years(best case). 20 years worse case

>>714806103
finish pokemon retard

>>714818029
We have that already???

>>714818061
And neither will you.

>AI
>twitter screencap
>phoneposter
Kino sirs

>>714817810
>Are the people bashing ai just people that used it years ago and still think it's the same?
people stuck in the past are stuck in the past.

>>714818276
Weirdly enough Claude can code pokemon way better than he can play it
Though I guess it's not that weird since none of the llms were designed to navigate or play games

>>714816864
>In practice, what this will mean is that normalfags will abandon video games en masse for this new technology that is more suited to their tastes.
Unless it fits in a pocket or, at most, a desk, that's not happening.

>>714818382
muskavites are all functionally deficient.

>>714818382
Phoneposting the norm. You are the odd one out

>>714818506
It'll be on mobile of course
A new iPhone is nearly as powerful as your pc at ai tasks right now.

>>714817810
I don't think it's bad, as a tool, I tried it as a search engine and stuff but people in OP keep making weird predictions like it's making an AAA game.
Does success in search engine translate to a game? What's the logic here?

>>714816864
ai games will be a return to old, but in the way of obsoleting cancer rather than what you are describing.

>>714813868
>Mars 2026
lol, lmao

>>714814193
>He's just some dude
anon he's the richest person in the world
THE RICHEST PERSON ON EARTH
and its arguably all from things he did, not inherited walmart stock

>>714816864
>As I always say,
nigger what
do you think we keep track of you?

>>714816358
>They didn't even come close to meeting their goal
he would have if not for retarded reputational warfare from the left

>>714819378
This just tells me he should be first in line against the wall.

>>714813868
starship will slam into mars and kill everyone aboard
screencap this post

>>714807318
You do know these guys are more magicians than tech gurus right? Smoke and magic to sell the product they believe will reach their generated hype

>>714806023 (OP)
wouldnt the head be in the center of the cockpit?

>>714806023 (OP)
>Apparently it's gonna be a thing by the end of the year
ah yes, 2 weeks times 26.
>source: Elon Musk
multiply that by 5

>>714806023 (OP)
>end of next year
>Apparently it's gonna be a thing by the end of the year
Twitter posters living up to their reputation.

>>714806023 (OP)
>specific scenes from movies fed into an AI to reproduce
>still looks weird and jank

>>714807346
>I'd take literal garbage over imaginary things /pol/ taught me to be mad at (I can't think for myself)

>>714808437
>pretending to be a mod/janny because you want to shill aislop
PATHETIC

>>714806023 (OP)
Complete bullshit. It should eventually be possible, but anything promised now is fucking vaporware intended to corner a market that doesn't fucking exist and get more funding to float these massive money pits until they collapse or reach the point of actual viablity.

>>714819162
It can code games already

>>714813868
Do people actually believe anything he says when literally every major project he has announced has failed? The only thing he has are semi-functional EVs that'll eventually be outpaced by actual good ones, if that sector actually picks up enough.

>>714820703
That would still be a great achievement

>>714806023 (OP)
that's cool
there's multiple lifetimes of games that i can play though, so i'm not gonna buy it lol

>>714806849
Alpha Indians are mogging you brutally

>>714822204
>what is falcon 9

>>714822498
Part of a long line of failures, nearly a decade behind schedule that's wasted millions upon millions in government handouts.

>>714822721
>literally the most successful rocket ever
>Part of a long line of failures
mkay

>>714822721
Still expensive as fuck and has not met the sustainability goals touted all those years ago. Most of the promised tech and features for mass production have not come about. Likely will be easily outpaced in the future. It's a failure of promises, just like the rest.

>>714819162
>success in search engine
Kind of an oversimplification. If AI can efficiently give humans information that is relevant to a task, then yes this could translate to a game. Right now we already have this. Someone with almost zero coding knowledge could talk to an LLM for 2-3 hours and come out of it with a functioning, simple video game. So now just keep advancing the tech and multiply the number of attempts by 10,000,000,000... I suppose the real trick is going to be how do we sift through all the slop in the AI era? Or fuck, is that question EVEN RELEVANT? Maybe you and I will simply generate our own completely tailored content, specifically for ourselves. No sifting required. Shit will get weird, and make no mistake things are absolutely going to change. Just hard to say exactly how and how fast.
>>714816864
such a hilariously low IQ take, as someone who is a huge fan of both shmups and movie games
>>714822204
Elon is insanely cringe and i hate almost all of his political takes, but pretending the wealthiest man in the world (by a very very wide margin) is not successful is pure cope and just fucking stupid

>>714819526
I write that beforehand or some anon will say something like: "do you write this in every thread?", so I make it clear beforehand so no one bothers me.

>>714819285
I'm not smart enough to understand what you mean.

>>714823252
The retard is just a conman whose entire net worth is based on his clearly bought campaign of the real life Tony Stark bullshit, that worked really well for him until the pedo submarine thing were people saw what an absolute retard he was. Since then, he's been too rich to fail, but with everything that's happened and his break up with Trump, there's a real chance he could get to the point where he's booted from Tesla.

Hyperloop - Failed and died
Boring company - Failed, made one tunnel
Automated taxis - Not fucking automated
Automated trucks - Vaporware
Solar neighborhoods - Vaporware
Self Driving - Promised to be 100% accurate, barely functions, outpaced by others
Cybertrucks - Absolute clusterfuck
Space stuff - Way behind schedule, way too costly compared to what he promised
And I'm probably forgetting 3 or 4 of them

>>714806849
You won't even know

>>714823252
>such a hilariously low IQ take, as someone who is a huge fan of both shmups and movie games
What I mentioned is already happening, however. You can already create a virtual environment where the AI creates a scenario and illustrates it, adjusting it according to your input. However, it is still all extremely simplistic, and for some reason the AI repeats itself a lot. After I created a scenario with Dana Scully three times, I started to notice a limitation in the AI's "creativity". However, we are still far from real-time movies, and the real problem is the processing power that something like this will require.

>>714823469
I think he's saying devs will have more control over their games and smaller teams will be making them. Like in the old days.
Gaming started getting fucked over by jews in the like mid-2000s with all their investments and takeovers because they just wanted more and more and more money and started chasing trends and stupid or consume unfriendly shit instead of focusing on making fun games or expressing themselves making vidya art.

Since AI will let like .. 1 guy make a great game, bigger and better than any AAA we've seen so far(except maybe like RDR2), some time in the foreseeable future, eventually gaming isn't going to be so commercially interesting to (((investors))) and we'll enter a new golden era.

Steam will have to turn on some kind of filter because already we have HUNDREDS of shitty games by humans, imagine when AI arrives

>>714823669
>>714816895

>>714824085
I really hope you're trolling me and don't actually believe that nonsensical propaganda.

>>714823669
>Hyperloop - Failed and died
That was only ever a white paper, an idea he just threw out like 'hey I'm not gonna do this, but if anyone else wants to, here you go'.

>>714824260
it logically checks
you're also obviously wrong about the car stuff

>>714824329
Ok, you gotta be trolling.

>>714823252
>Someone with almost zero coding knowledge could talk to an LLM for 2-3 hours and come out of it with a functioning, simple video game
You can actually do the same with a search engine, kek.
>So now just keep advancing the tech
You mean making the tech bigger. If the tech gets bigger, won't the mistakes an AI make get bigger too? It's not like the AI makes a game on the spot. You have to sit 2-3 hours.
>>714822150
I guess it can code a game that I'd say "done by AI" and its about as good as if I asked a search engine to "code pong", got a result from stackoverflow and said it was "done by google". There are often flaws in those that the human has to double-check.
eh. I dunno. It's got too much hype but there's that I guess. eh. I'll try making a million-dollar game with that and get back on that.

>>714815382
He only cared about the national debt because he was siphoning money from programs to send to himself and his friends, backdating Tesla gibs and making hundreds of thousands into hundreds of millions probably illegally, and normal people like you or me shouldn't even think about that shit unless rich kikes are just wasting our money by putting it straight into their already huge bank accounts that fund their control mechanisms over us.

>>714813868
I don't think he intends to go to Mars
This is just a scheme to soak up government resources so they can't invest in NASA or an actual route to success
The same way he blocked any attempt to create high-speed rail because he'd rather have everyone in exploding basedmobiles

>>714818351
No. I said that's what I want.
There's text based roleplay chatbots that can render an image. But most are a pain to setup, and take a long time to render

>>714824329
Wrong.

>>714806023 (OP)
AI making full AAA games from a prompt LOL. The resulting game should be interesting at least

But I want to try making a simpler game with prompts when tech gets good enough. Maybe a fighting game or platformer

>>714823669
You're forgetting about his "AI-powered" robot that was just remote-controlled by jeets to fleece more money out of investors.

>>714824538
>>714824885
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
And importantly go through these thoroughly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop#Hyperloop_companies

"AI generated games" are just shitty half-assed clones of existing games. When are all these jeets going to realize that?

>>714822721
>>714823185
Thanks for proving that you are completely clueless
Such an easy shit test

>>714824083
>imagine when AI arrives
Well look at google or pixiv or pinterest (garbage site was used by artists for revs). Or 4chan.

>>714825260
Ok, troll.

>>714814513
full self driving has been a thing for over a decade
it's getting it allowed nation-wide which will be the big challenge

>>714806023 (OP)
How does this affects me?

>>714824808
>and take a long time to render
You have a toaster or something art wrong then. I generate like 5 pictures a second

you being too retarded to understand is not my problem

>>714825336
No anon you are the troll.
>too tarded he cant even google falcon 9
Kek

>>714820703
imagine being the first people to die on another planet

>>714806849
Based

>>714818559
since when do you have to be a normalfag to post on 4chan..?

>>714825597
Kino
>>714824782
It's all self funded
>>714822721
Falcon 9 not starship

>>714825531
>t. hurr it's reusable so that totally means it's finacially viable and means we can ignore all the missed goals that secured the funding for it durrr

>>714825720
It's the most successful rocket in history
Well over half all of all sats in space were launched by falcon 9

>>714813868
>le roadmap
>le mars colonization
It's all about stonks manipulation. Also Starship isn't actually going to Mars. They just building a commercial ship witch can deliver massive payloads into the orbit.

>>714817536
De Lelouch

>>714808718
>Procedural Generation game
Not helping your case

>>714825860
>It's all about stonks manipulation.
It's a private company

>>714825720
>it's reusable so that totally means it's finacially viable
Yes.

>>714808718
so peak. hope the sequel maintains the quality

>>714826195
it'll be even better because it'll be made using AI

AI is for lazy retards/indians

>>714806023 (OP)
Its gonna be nothing, u'll see, this dude is a hack

>>714825441
That. Or maybe I'm just ignorant. Care to share your knowledge with me, anon?

>>714806023 (OP)
by the end of next year you might get experimental LSD type experiences but not AAA games with consistent mechanics etc. lol

LLMs can't even hold conversations for longer than like 10k characters, it's not gonna remember game mechanics and shit that happened for a 40 hour gaming experience

>>714812486
just 2 more weeks?

>>714823252
cont. The problem with saying that a tech "gets bigger" is that, essentially, it sounds like "I'll add more RAM to it". I can't imagine anyone's trying to fundamentally change what llm is when they say that. It doesn't inspire me the confidence to say that it'll stop making mistakes, more like it'll remember more. But the hype often implies that.

>>714818029
Literally exists, look up AI Roguelite on Steam.

>>714825238
why can't you understand that AI creates novel stuff based on its training data?
if you train it so it knows what a dog and a dragon are you can make a dradog dogon, this is creativity and unique

>>714825059
>AI making full AAA games from a prompt LOL
it'll be able to eventually. if you ask an LLM today what steps it would have to take to do it, it knows how to. the problem is that it sucks at coding and its memory is basically non-existent though. but that'll be solved some day.

>>714807318
You're trolling right?
No one can possibly be that retarded.


I'm 99% all the AI slop being pushed is just jeets.
They think this will somehow make them shitloads of money because they typed a few english words into a computer and hit generate.
Can anyone really be excited to play literal goyslop?

>>714828559
>you can make a dradog dogon
Not really.

>AAA title
>AI generated

These are incongruent statements.

>>714816864
Honestly that sounds smooth brained and absolutely vomit inducing.

>>714806386
I think it'll be funnier to see them "unveil" their first "AAA all AI generated game" as it shamelessly rips off other AAA games and watching the UI transform from Minecraft to Halo to Spiderman to Mario.

>>714828310
I pirated this slop and it takes a minute to do anything, can you even read?

>>714823252
>the wealthiest man in the world
LOL, LMAO EVEN

>>714806386
>>714828939
>AI starts generating pictures
>smart people say it will generate full videos in a few years
>you guys say it will never happen, it's impossible
>months later we start seeing janky videos proving the concept can bear fruit
>you guys say it will never improve
>months later it improves and you can now generate them on your own gaming PC
>you guys laugh and say it's not perfect and that it will never improve
>months later it improves dramatically, instead of 2 second clips it can generate 1 minute long clip that look eerily close to reality
>you guys say it will never improve, it's a dead end, while you also cry about muh copyrights and other bullshit
>months later China makes its own video models and releases them for public use
>you guys say it will never improve, but mostly ignore it because it's getting goo
>months later it improves and you start seeing people getting laid off because it's pretty good at making ads and splash stuff
>lots of seething, still arguing it will never improve
>meanwhile audio is getting applied to the video, it's janky but it's something you guys also said was impossible
>months later it does improve and the audio and video are both getting eerily close to reality, it can literally fool the vast majority of humanity now
>AI "actors" can act while speaking while environmental sounds play, it's mostly decent and only v1
This is where we're at now. In some months we'll start seeing fully generated long form videos straight from one single model, and then movies. Just like the smart guys stated all those years ago. We can splice together technology to make TV shows(like Family Guy AI) but that doesn't count.

Now, why would you argue this won't also happen with video games? The way generative AI works is that you feed it data(in this case audio and visual data) and it spits out videos. For games you can feed it all the game stuff and it will also spit out games.

>>714828657

>>714806023 (OP)
consume your slop

How long until Non-AI organic certified becomes a marketing label?

>>714806023 (OP)
>Apparently it's gonna be a thing by the end of the year
I highly doubt it. Made using AI? Sure. Generated by AI in real time? Unlikely.

>>714830120
what do you think that minecraft and quake stuff is? it's realtime and generated by AI

>>714806023 (OP)
AI generated games will probably never be a thing. AI generated assets in games will and already are

>>714830217
Yeah and they go to shit very quickly because AI's can't stop hallucinating. There's also no progress in them because it would just forget anything you have done

>>714830497
they're still real-time
> There's also no progress in them
you just don't pay attention, they microsoft stuff(I forget its name) is leagues better than that first minecraft demo

>>714829141
>Honestly, I just want an AI-rendered, AI text-based game that does not take hours for each message to complete
Can you write?

>>714829587
>Now, why would you argue this won't also happen with video games?
Games need design and mechanics behind them, not inconsistent hallucinations. Making a game with AI and tweaking the results is quite feasible but if we're talking real time generation, a number of big problems need to be solved first.
Maybe we'll get there but I think it's a fools errand when the pre-generated method is much more feasible.
But they're chasing real time generation because of the novelty value. They know AI slop can't stand on its own merits in terms of content, even with the AAA market being as terrible as it is.

>>714830217
Those aren't games. It's just generating nonsense video that changes when you look in a different direction. It's not persistent. There are no underlying mechanics or rules.

>>714830807
>that does not take hours for each message to complete
unironically how do you function? did you miss this part? I'm not even the original poster lol

>>714830838
>Games need design and mechanics behind them
LLMs already know this. The idea of generating an entire game is a bunch of AIs coding according to the process of developing a game.
>first I'll come up with the mechanics, then make the art, then design it all, then do the voice acting
etc

I agree that using AI to do things you would hire a person for is what will happen but there's zero reason to think AI won't automate every aspect about it, including the director's input. Also just random games generated could be fun too. You don't like AI apparently but I do and I love seeing all the new styles it creates. AI will also, in the exact same way, create new styles of gameplay or controls. Like how some third person games have better gamefeel than others. AI will create billions of new types of third person control schemes with an infinite variety of gamefeel which will be fun on its own. Can apply to OPs picture showing a space game too. Different types of space simulations generated will be fun to play with. Obviously we wont' be getting kino any time soon but ludo is another matter.

>>714831034
>It's just generating nonsense video that changes when you look in a different direction
so you're just talking out of your ass

>>714830776
Well it's still not happening any time soon since generating a game in real time is too much for your average PC

>>714819610
>guys I can't send spaceships to Mars because some faggots on twitter said some mean things about me
Lol
Lmao

>>714831271
>generate video of a game
>say you generated a game
>stupid investors give you money
>pocket most of it and kill the company

>>714831271
I'm addressing the "games" you brought up.
You're having a roleplay conversation with the AI, except instead of typed words it's simplified to WASD inputs and it's outputting video.
It's impressive, but it's not a game. It's video generation. There are no underlying mechanics.

>>714831467
poorfags will just miss out, it's coming a lot faster than you're implying

>>714831197
you're retarded and huffing your farts
>2 more weeks btw!!

>>714831760
Man what the fuck is that garbage

I hope AIfags get the future they.clamour for where everything is flooded with endless slop.

>>714831760
Now post a video of a 3rd party playing that "game" rather than just a video of what looks like someone playing a game

>piracy is normalized in AI training circles
imagine a future where its legally protected to rip an AAA game just by an ai watching videos of it

>>714831760
trololo

>>714832073

>>714831197
>The idea of generating an entire game is a bunch of AIs coding according to the process of developing a game.
That's perfectly feasible. In fact, I think we could have some amazing AI-driven games already if the tech sector wasn't full of morons chasing a pipe dream.
>You don't like AI apparently
To be honest, I don't, but I respect it and can see the tremendous potential it has both good and bad.
You're right that in the massive sea of AI games we're going to get, there'll be some interesting things in there. There's some intrigue to seeing what it comes up with, and the processes and evolutions.
But 99.99% of it is still going to be utter garbage.
Games powered by AI with a competent designer at the helm, though, could be spectacular.

>>714817645
You will die for Israel before 2030

>>714807318
>real life Ironman
Big yikes. Oof.

>>714808347
Once they are all made by AI there will be no fixing it, games will be soulless forever and the art of making them by hand will be lost, and there are still good games being made, you just spend all of your time seething about trannies on the internet and freaking out about any game that has a leftist community manager or producer or something because you have been turned into a soulless goblin by propaganda.

>>714823252
Chatgpt can't even give the right instructions to use rpgmaker anon, AI a shit.

>>714832336
>But 99.99% of it is still going to be utter garbage.
This is a meaningless statement because 99% of everything is garbage already, just ignore it. All you're saying is that 1% will be good meaning more good stuff for me.

>>714806023 (OP)
Games are an incredibly complex thing to create efficiently as any decent developer knows.

I’d sooner expect AI to get good enough that people can generate their own animations/films first. Imagine some random anon making a season 3 of The Spectacular Spider-Man.

>>714831760
fug they've got control of the training data

>>714832303
>WHAM demonstrator
oh cool its on huggingface guess i'll read a paragraph about how it could be potentially harmful and how the harms could be intersectional and not mutually exclusive and

>>714832578
It's not a meaningless statement. There'll be an utter flood of garbage that makes finding anything decent (0.01% actually) next to impossible. And it won't be bad in the sense that most of the industry's output is bad today, it'll be worse, like random Steam shovelware but on a much greater scale.

>>714833370
Yes it is because we've always been flooded in shit and it's never been hard to find good games. You're either not thinking straight or you're being disingenuous.

If current AI output is anything to expected then gaming is just going to be AAA Slop: AI edition. We've got the power of complete, instant creativity in the palm of our hands and people still use it to gen shit.

>>714807108
Lake titty ca ca was emptied to run this.

>>714806849
luddite trannies are so funny to watch

>>714832303
>4 months ago
poor microsoft lol
zero respect

>>714833750
?

>>714806023 (OP)
>giving credit to a grifter's opinion

>>714833949
pic unrelated, its a good "consider the following" format
but if what anon posted earlier was possible 4 months ago it wild that we're just now hearing about it, albeit from a different company

>>714833748
Post hand Ranjeet.

>>714834123
The subject of this thread is a white billionaire praising AI, yet you trannies just default to calling everyone a jeet because it's the only cope your troon brains can come up with. YWNBAW.

>>714834075
There were threads when it was brand new.

>>714830217
So we're talking Minecraft but llm generates slop enemies/mooks?

>>714807108
>this doesn't make sense what the fuck even is this
>lol filtered
>skill issue
>i'm having fun :)
>how does effect you personally?
Games are already this. Bunch of nonsense jibberish about collecting petrified horse cocks to make the master sword so you can break into gold rank and finally start playing the real game with brazilians and chinese people. Its like this shit was designed by AI before AI was a thing and now an entire generation grew up playing alien games with figurative uncanny valley design so its normal to them. AI will change nothing because vidya can't get anymore deranged than its already become since 2012.

>>714836775
>vidya can't get anymore deranged than its already become
kek

>>714815321
The man's TED talks were literally written for him by the actual manufacturing engineers who told him HOW they made improvements.

>>714807850
and where do you upload your art, pixiv, twitter?

At this point you are going to be the CEO of a game corporation

meme learning doesn't even have the capacity for a coherent doom clone lol
Relatively, thinking you're gonna generate a Skyrim clone is far-future science-fiction

>>714806727
end of 2025 x 3 = end of 6075

why are people against AI devs
most studios, most games, and most devs are fucking dog shit. It's not 2007 anymore.

>>714838495
The usual AI haters are drawtrannies who are mad that they wasted time practicing art only to get rugpulled by AI.

>>714825701
>Self funded
No it isnt
SpaceX received constant gubbermint handouts until Elon and Trump had a falling out
There were fucking government announcements at the white house begging people to buy a tesla
The vandalism towards a single tesla dealership was being treated like a terrorist attack on your countr
Elmo siphoned off billions upon billions of dollars through his "efficiency" thing at the cost of the tax payers who now have to deal with the fallout of the fact that it ripped money from key critical organizations such as the continued purging of screw worms that cripple the American beef industry because none of them actually cared about where the money they got came from they just wanted it for themselves

>>714838495
>and most devs are fucking dog shit
and depending on "AI" will make them even more dogshit. you think "AI" is magically independent / autonomous?

>>714838848
>and depending on "AI" will make them even more dogshit.
why

>>714838924
Because they no longer will practice the skill?
It's like using a calculator to do all your math, your mental math capacity will deteriorate.

>>714806386
>It's going to be so fucking funny seeing these retards spend billions on something that's plateau'd already
You fuckers literally said this when AI could barely render Will Smith eating spaghetti. AI porn is now the fastest growing industry in the world. And if history has ever taught me anything, it's that porn and successful media are tied at the hip.

>>714839040
using AI is a skill

>>714806023 (OP)
We already got Starfield tho

>>714839221
being really good at using a calculator won't make you a great mathematician.

>>714839040
>your mental math capacity will deteriorate
yeah,and? you don't need it when you've got a calculator. and you wont need the skills that ai takes over when making games when you've got ai

>>714839040
Because knowing how to use AI is a skill? You still have to tune it and learn how to prompt it

>>714829587
This anon gets it. I'm not one hundred percent certain we'll see AI that portrays a playable game in real-time that isn't some sort of crazy fever dream, but it is entirely possible that with increasing advances in AI technology, developers and even a layperson can have an AI develop a game for you to then play. Which is already happening to some extent, as many games are using AI to generate various assets as we speak, some of which is not noticeable by the end-user.

>>714839221
>>714839332
>is a skill sar
nooticing

>>714839316
bad analogy

>>714838848
The soulless NPCs are so pathetically demoralized and demented that they will walk right into the woodchipper the corporations have set up for them, they won't even try to keep everything from being ruined, they don't even understand what is happening to them. Once it happens there will be no fixing it, an AI game is worse than the worst trannies making a game.

>>714839040
Do you think rocket scientists don't use calculators? You're a mindbroken homotranny.

>>714839402
yeah, because i can atleast expect a calculator to give me the correct answer.

>>714839316
Sub 80 IQ answer.

>>714839447
rocket scientists still understand the math, that's the key difference.
People that depend on "AI' have no foundation knowledge.

>>714839169
>AI is going to rule the world not by force, but by men's cocks
Skynut, even.

>>714839501
>ad-hom that doesn't refute my statement
ironic

>>714839521
Who said games are going to be developed by random nobodies rather than existing devs using AI to massively improve efficiency? Strawmanning AIDS nigger.

>>714839521
>Someone using AI can't ask it about concepts and learn from it.
>Someone using AI will NEVER have the knowledge of the thing they are developing because they won't okay???
lol
lmao

>>714806023 (OP)
>FPS cockpit view. Copilot sitting on your knee.
Nice work @Grok

>>714806023 (OP)
Based elon carrying whole humanity on his back

>>714839604
>>Someone using AI can't ask it about concepts and learn from it.
they can't, because "AI" isn't guaranteed to give them the correct answer, and will sometimes hallucinate wrong information as fact.
>>714839582
>rather than existing devs using AI to massively improve efficiency
and we've circled back to the initial statement >>714838848

>>714807850
nice! are you accepting commissions?

>>714839757
you don't need a correct answer, it's just art

>>714839521
>rocket scientists still understand the math
then why wont gamedevs still understand the basics of gamedev?

>>714839447
There's a difference between using a calculator to quickly estimate complex equations involving eight digit numbers and not being able to do something as basic as 625 divided by 25 in your head.

>>714839757
So you acknowledge that the initial statement is different to your strawman just now? Dilate.

>>714839757
You do understand that LLMs now have around 90% accuracy and that might as well be just as good as going online and asking for help. You can tell it to double check all the previous answers and make sure it didn't make a single mistake. And that is just the models we have TODAY.
With Gemini pro you can already make a game that you want, you can use claude to make something amazing today and you can learn all about it. Why wouldn't it be different with AI?

>>714839834
Because they're deferring all their design and problem solving to another entity.
They will develop no real experience and wisdom

>>714839853
What does that have to do with anything? Someone who has no idea how to build a game at all isn't going to be able to build a working game. You seem to be admitting that AI is a tool that depends on the person who uses it, meaning you should have no problem with proper game devs utilizing it.

>>714839943
depending on "AI" will not improve existing games, it will only make them worse.
>>714839958
>the math is ~90% accurate, isn't that good enough!
grim

>>714839958
>You do understand that LLMs now have around 90% accuracy and that might as well be just as good as going online and asking for help
Not for anything niche. I work in aerospace manufacturing and if I trusted even 5% of what retarded ass ai info spits out I'd have caused millions upon millions of dollars of damage

>>714840113
>because my strawmanning tranny ass who can't keep a straight argument said so
ok, ywnbaw tho

>>714840086
It means that the more you use AI to automate programming and development the more you will lose the ability to comprehend the code it spits out and thus spot when it makes mistakes or does something inefficiently, you retarded nigger.

>>714840198
starting to call me that shit is very indicative that you lost the argument.
Maybe prompt your "AI" on how to debate better!

>>714840132
hmmm

>>714840208
>the more you use a calculator the more you will lose the ability to comprehend rocket science and thus blow up all your rockets
You have AIDS.

>>714829587
when will ai figure out holes?

>>714817810
>building things with it that I could never accomplish.
can you provide a few examples?

>>714840261
anon, airplanes are literally falling out of the sky and failing exponentially more than they used to. It's hard-evidence we are regressing on something very basic.

>>714840258
You have no argument besides "it will be worse because I said so" (right after I called out your strawman, no less), thus my response is sufficient and also accurate.

>>714840113
Way better than we currently have.
>>714840132
>Not for anything niche.
That is a fair argument. But at the same time, you can train your own AI with whatever data you have and that will be just as good as your current level employee. You can grow a large knowledge base with AI and it will be able to do its job.

>>714840349
because retards like you are working on them lmao

>>714840349
Yeah it's called DEI pilots, something that AI would solve.

>>714840321
>nitpicking something that isn't the focus of the AI illustration to make yourself look good
wow, nice argument

>>714840451
>DEI
God, why can't you fucking faggots just kill yourself already, none of you could fly a plane even if MSFS was 1:1 on functionality.

>>714840357
Skill deterioration is an objective thing.
You don't use your muscles, they go away.
This is objectively true for mental tasks as well.
Depending on "AI" will deteriorate your mental skills.
That is the argument you cannot refute.

>>714828637
>tranime image
>retarded opinion
everytime

>>714828939
that's not how it works, you autistic fuck

>>714840562
using ai has made me more creative

>>714840561
>tranny leftist bluehair confirmed
kek, every time, it's always you freaks seething at AI, nobody else is this mentally ill

>>714839169
>Ai porn is the fastest growing industry
What the fuck are you talking about?

Is it the most spammed fucking industry?
Sure
Since jeets FUCKING spam their ai shit into every rule 34 website to hundreds of down votes

>>714840562
see >>714840280

>>714807850
>Doesn't show his art because we know it's fake

>>714840760
see >>714840258

>>714840731
>What the fuck are you talking about?
He is right. Lewd AI chatbots make so much money that is not even funny, alongside imagine generation is also making BANK
not to mention the AI artists who post coom stuff over at twitter earn like 10k a month just posting slop online.

>>714840649
post some of your work anon

>>714840815
>xe read that post and the only thing xe took away from it was the insult at the very end
I guess you got too triggered to provide an argument, it happens.

>>714840261
I'm talking about the actual act of cutting the material
AI spits out retarded numbers that result in poor quality parts that don't meet QC due to poor surface finish, improper fits, and incorrect dimensions all while hampering production due to poor tool processes. It's pushed by supervisors who've never ran machining tools or programmed a single part with a cam software in their lives that just want to slap "WE USE AI" because it attracts investors with more money than sense, then they cut out the QC because "AI said it was good enough" and we get constant failures in the industry and even less long term employee training because nobody wants to train new people in these trades anymore.

I'm not a part of an incredibly massive company, I just make helicopter parts for some local industry, but I can say that there hasn't been a single accident stemming from a part I've made in the years I've been doing it because the shop I'm with have an excellent QC department that don't rely on this fucking retarded trend.
Doors don't fly off Boeing's planes mid flight because of a pilot error. That's a machining error, and a QC error, and an error on the installer's end because suits don't view the people that make them money as being important

>>714806023 (OP)
AAA type of games (or just more quality in general) will literally be impossible for many more years, Musk as per usual is just spewing shit out of his mouth to hype up his own company. We might see a "AAA" type of game be close to fully generated by ai within the next decade, but even then there's going to be a lot of human input after to help with the quality and to fine-tune things like logic and balancing, etc etc. BUT it won't take many years until ai can do one or two tasks well enough to fire 25% of the company, and then 50%, then 75% and then 90%

>>714840883
This argument is so fucking stupid. why does he need to post anything? What does that have to do with anything?
You are just going to say some bad faith argument anyways

>>714840834
I don't believe you
Simple as

>>714840883
you'll just say it's bad :(

>>714840813
Anyone who uses AI knows that the process he described is 100% doable lol, it's not some hidden tech that would arouse skepticism in anyone, except trannies who seethe at AI without knowing anything about it I guess.

I will never play anything generated by AI, sorry. I'm not Indian, I have standards.

>>714841020
But it's "AI", so it has to be good :)

>>714838848
can they even get worse at this point

>>714829587
TWO MOR
E WEEKS!

Why do jeets need to convince you that Ai is good? They seethe and cope and write long posts about how great Ai is.

If it was so good everyone would be consuming it without anyone needing to be told it's good

When a good game comes out you don't need long shill posts explaining why game is actually good

I've been posting AI art on pixiv once every 1-3 days and I have 1.5k followers in less than 100 pics posted, is that good?

>>714840572
>retarded /v/ poster
>doesn't know sources for common reaction images
many such cases

>>714841102
I know but you won't like it....

>>714841025
Post your sketches then

>We are now 6 years into "in 10-12 months AI is going to take all your jobs" and ai has yet to provide a single good, profitable thing on the internet except porn
lmao

>>714841149
>Why do jeets need to convince you that Ai is good?
because their impostor syndrome is reaching critical levels, and they desperately want to feel validated.

>>714841209
Why? The topic is about AI converting sketches into a final product, not how good someone's WIP sketches are, dumb troon.

Why the fuck are y'all talking about AI pornography? The fuck does that have to do with the subject at hand?

>>714841151
I only have a feeling for twitters which I would say 10k followers is good I guess, whatever that means.

>>714806023 (OP)
>by the end of the year
This time for sure, Elon.

>>714821636
seething amerishit golem

Why do people act so proud to enjoy something made by AI? It's like being proud you enjoy pigslop or tv dinners.

>>714841280
The people who always seethe at AI are drawtrannies, that's why the conversation always comes back to art, because they feel threatened by AI art and their insecurity leaks into all their posts.

>>714841280
it's actually really funny. This supposedly game-changing technology supposedly sending us into a 2nd industrial revolution, and the only real conversation or objective thing it provides, is porn.

>>714841149
This is why

>>714841380
it's like why you get mad about AI except they aren't miserable and just like nice things

>>714840349
>anon, airplanes are literally falling out of the sky and failing exponentially more than they used to. It's hard-evidence we are regressing on something very basic.
Literally the safest year in terms of airplane accidents in comparison to the last five years. Imagine falling for an unironic psy-op.

>>714840834
citation needed, Praveen

>>714841380
It's more like not getting pissy over the fact that your beef was butchered by a machine rather than a human.

>>714841390
Nigga, why do we even need to argue about this fucking faggot retarded shit anyway?

>>714841384
brown hands typed this post

>>714840731
AI girflriend sites are earning billions and are in a speedrun arms race to make the best image/text generators going.

>>714841380
Why do you act so proud for living under a rock and desperately trying to ignore what's going on in the world?

>>714841456
yeah...

>>714840321
When will AI learn to count fingers? Thats right, never. It will never be able to make a video either.

>>714841424
hogs like rolling in shit and cannibalizing their piglets. do you not think standards are important?

>>714841496
Fuck you, you fucking supremacist

>>714841496
>instantly triggered because it touched a nerve
Every time.

When even John Carmack tells you you're a fucking retard for having a certain opinion about programming and the video game dev industry, you might have to drop your retarded dunning kruger shit opinion

>AI is only advancing in america and china
>trannies still cope by saying it's a pajeet thing
Gives me the same energy as trannies always trying to co-opt everything for themselves. I guess they're quite used to this gaslighting tactic.

>>714841554
Where's 2025 in that image?

>>714841705
well, there's a bit of a problem anon....
2025 isn't over yet....

>>714841678
I may be trans but this shit is funny

>>714840280
See >>714839853.

You retarded nigger.

>>714841775
Lmao

>>714841729
Hey genius

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_2025

14 accidents in 7 months. 2 accidents a month. Meaning if we continue at this pace, 2025 is going to end with a total of 24 accidents.

>>714841775
You used a post earlier in the reply chain to try refute one that came later and was a direct result of that earlier post. Talking to brain damaged trannies is so tiresome.

>>714806023 (OP)
>elon reprograms his AI to name the jew and deny the holocaust
>he still somehow thinks he'll get any VC investment ever

>>714841865
Has anyone ever told you to shut the fuck up?

>>714806023 (OP)
I cannot trust the future to AI simply because I know that doing so is granting the long-nose tribe an unprecedented level of power in churning out infinite slop that can never truly ever flop or fail because it cost pennies on the dollar to make

>>714841951
I accept your concession, nigger.

>>714841918
He's the richest man in the world.

>>714841568
you don't have any sense, your standards are based on nothing but vapid autistic stances

>>714841592
Not that anon but...
If you want to see triggered, see >>714841578 lmao

>>714841951
M-many times.

>>714841865
that's not how data works anon...
Very troubling you'd even suggest we should take that approach
it almost seems like behavior you'd see from bad actors being paid by big industries to control narratives.
but that wouldn't happen...

>>714841865
That's not how that shit works when we haven't gotten to any of the actual major flight times of the year
I'll believe you when we're past Christmas and the massive uptick in flights due to summer and major 3rd/4th quarter holidays have passed

>>714841489
No, AI is more comparable to the meat itself. AIsloppers want to convince everyone their synthetic no-animals-killed sludge is equal to a real cow.

>>714841525
If the world started eating shit I wouldn't eat shit. You might but that's expected of people who like AI slop, literal NPCs

>>714841270
>We are now 6 years into "in 10-12 months AI is going to take all your jobs"
Literally nobody sane has ever said 10-12 months. The timeframe that has consistently been dropped by people remotely into this stuff is a decade.

AI is one half of the reason bipedal robots are now finally seeing mass deployment in Chinese factories. As the robots now understand situational variables and can react accordingly. The other half is simply advancements in robotics finally catching up to the ideal your bosses need to replace you entirely.

The biggest reason you should be terrified about AI's impact on work life is the simple fact that every single major bank {{{family}}} has invested billions into it. All of them.

>>714841972
My 33.333333333333333% blackness has been affected by laughter, cracker

>>714842036
>>714842040
>Raise simple hypothetical projection based on the current data
>T-THAT'S NOT HOW DATA WORKS
Projections based on data are not data, they're called projections for a fucking reason. Christ, you'd lose your shit in a typical board meeting where 90% of it is projections based on 3-6 months of data.

>>714841998
I like to start arguments, I'm not that affected

>>714842159
>hypothetical projection
atleast you admit the numbers are useless...
thank you...

>>714842043
What's the difference between a poster drawn by a human on paper, and the same poster scanned and then mass printed for distribution? Does the poster become more unsightly once it's digitalized, forcing the poster industry to mass hand draw posters to retain quality? Or are you just a tranny who is mad for reasons that have nothing to do with quality whatsoever?

>>714841270
>literally hundreds of thousands of people have lost work to AI
>every CEO is saying AI is about to take millions of jobs within the next 2 or so years

>>714841959
This, farming power tools are a scam they make it so oranges will be super cheap but they'll still be something only an affluent family can afford on a sunday in europe
...oh wait oranges are dirt fucking cheap now and you can literally eat 3 a day if you want

>>714842187
The exact words I expect to be bumbled out of a stocklet.

>>714806849
lol seething coomer furious that some retarded "artist" he's simped for to the tune of a billion dollars is going to have to compete with people using superior tools

>>714842287
How'd we go from worrying trends in aircraft accidents to stocks?

>>714842327
>hypothetical projection
>atleast you admit the numbers are useless...
Just saying, this exact wording tells me you're poor. Men are made rich based on accurate hypothetical projections. In fact, it's the only real way the average Joe CAN get rich these days.

>>714840649
>>714840562
Creativity is definitely a muscle and you can see this for yourself showing AI art generators to people.
>hey senpai what do you want to generate?
>ummmmmmmm how about a painting
>of what?
>ummmmmmmm a tree on a hill :DD
But later on if they keep using it they get a lot more creative and start getting an artist brain.

>look into the draw thread where they always complain about AI
>it's all gay furries drawing ugly furry shit
lol, of course, tranny faggots worship ugliness so no wonder they hate AI

>>714842225
>food analogy
farming tools still required human hands to work

>>714806023 (OP)
>AI Generated games
OH FUCKING BOY, i cant wait for highly unoptimized shit.

Memes aside i see this going one of 2 ways
>Suck it up Consoomer and buy more powerful rigs
We go the way we are currently headed where shit is unoptimized to hell and back again and the answer is lol just by massive beefy rigs to compensate for shitty optimization

>The rise of the Tech-Chads
We will see a rise of actual good programers take over where their job is digging through AL slop code which is 9/10 about the same as jeet code, and then will optimize it, and the merit of being really good at optimizing will be king.

>>714841865
>Plane crashes 1st of January
>Dude theres 365 plane crashes this year!

>>714840321
absolutely no normal person cares about that detail, nitpicking faggot

>>714842510
>Takes the most comically extreme and nonsensical example imaginable as if that refutes 7 months of averages
Tell me you're a woman without telling me you're a woman.

>>714842189
How is distribution comparable to AI generation? That's a very dumb comparison. It's also dumb because yes, a poster made by hand is more valuable than a mass printed one for obvious reasons.

The thing is that Musk isn't just a overpromising, underdelivering snakesoil salesam, but that nowadays you can't even capitalize on him being a snakesoil salesam because his retarded cultists will pump money into his meme stocks regardless of what is going on with his companies. It used to be that if getting a read on a overvalued scam meant that you could just short the stock and make bank because it would inevitably collapse. But this ketamine addled giga aspie keeps getting government contracts shoved up the ass while his fanbase will pump the stock regardless of any underlying fundamentals or realistic future projections. Musk could literally tell them that Space X will mine a football-stadium sized piece of Vibranium from the Moon in 3 weeks and stocks that aren't associated with Space X, like Tesla, will soar through the roof. Yes, it will collapse eventually because it's essentially a ponzi scheme of an investment strategy, but in the meanwhile it's impossible to predict when that collapse will actually occur because the people that invest in his shit are so far removed from what can be considered a rational agent that you might as well read tea leafs to divine when that's going to happen.

>>714806023 (OP)
Cant be worse than the shit we already have like minds eye

>>714842462
>AI doesn't need humans to operate
lmao retard

>>714842610
>It's also dumb because yes, a poster made by hand is more valuable than a mass printed one for obvious reasons.
You've said everything I need to know about you. You don't care about quality, you care about getting rewarded for your time, and that's why you feel threatened by AI because it's going to make all your efforts redundant.

>>714842668
@grok why tf my building leaning???

>>714842596
>No arguments
>Incel projection out of nowhere
I accept your concession

>>714842462
It's not a food analogy, it's a production industry analogy, you illiterate retard
>farming tools still required human hands to work
Yeah you know before farming tools you used to need 100 farmhands for a week
now you need a day and one man who isn't even really needed because the tractor does it by gps anyway. I've fallen asleep harvesting wheat my nigger

>>714842719
is the whole point not the automation of perceived "pointless" things that still require human creativity

>>714812486
>Adapt or die.
Don't have to, you're making human made art more sought after, no one wants an AI commission lmao.

>>714841904
>You used a post earlier in the reply chain to try refute one that came later and was a direct result of that earlier post.

Yes. The idea being that the refuted post was idiotic all along and had already been addressed before.

You retarded, myopic nigger.

>>714842745
Art inherently requires human skill. AI slop doesn't even look good and lacks the human element. Just as easy as it's made is as easy it can be discarded. It's worthless.

>>714842929
>no one wants an AI commission lmao.
Wait then how is it threatening artists?

I will never ever ever pay for AI slop

>>714807108
HOLY SOVL

>>714842786
and that's done so much good for us as a society that speedrunning late stage capitalism and we're now locked into a losing class war because the top percentage of mankind has an inordinate amount of power while the populace is entirely apathetic to it
proudly proclaiming that "normal people don't care about nitpicking" isn't a good thing

>>714841149
Because I genuinely like you anons and I do want to show that AI is the future. I don't want to see anyone here losing their jobs because of it.

>>714842970
Not sure what you were getting at by proving me right but whatever, you can stay mad and irrelevant.

>>714807108
And if they can gen it like images you'll see over 9000 of them daily on steam or something

>>714841270
I wish I was this naive

>>714842786
Do you seriously think life will get cheaper because of AI
Are you stupid

>>714843119
>and that's done so much good for us as a society
Your ass would've starved, your parents would've starved, and your grandparents would've never been born because that family line would've starved if not for power tools in agriculture. Think about what the fuck you're saying, mongoloid.

>>714806023 (OP)
Yes saar many games much redeem.

>>714843297
Yes? Of course things get cheaper if they're cheaper to put on your table. That's why you can today buy chicken for dinner every day even if you're poor. Holy fuck do you little retards not learn basic economics in school anymore?

>>714839958
let me know when it's 99.99999% accurate

>>714843158
AI is the future
everyone's still gonna lose their jobs and we'll all be forced into menial labor for pennies on the dollar because of a surge in availability for blue collar jobs while the few positions still required even though AI has chopped down the workforce by hundreds of people will be exclusively handed out via nepotism and high-level incestuous hiring practices

>>714839757
You say that as if people always provide factually correct and up-to-date information
I was googling whether callboard quests actually give experience on project ascension the other day, google's shitty AI overview thing said yes they do. When I clicked the links and checked the sources it was drawing from, I realized it said that because that's what some other fucking retards on the forums had wrongly claimed to be true

>>714841474
>>714840983
Here are some AI only sloppa that are making around 3k to 16k
https://graphtreon.com/creator/PuffyArt
https://graphtreon.com/creator/Balecxi
https://graphtreon.com/creator/WaifuInvoker
https://graphtreon.com/creator/MiyuAi

These people are a couple who made it big, but I can assure you everywhere you go now you have that "AI jerkoff" banner at the top. That is because these people are making bank

>>714843425
You are a naive and or disengenous retard.

>>714843471
I literally gave you the most basic example of it happening and you're just too retarded to comprehend it
yes nigger if video games can be made by 5 very smart people instead of a team of 200+ people making assets and doing chore work then monetization models will change. How the fuck is this not a beyond obvious conclusion

>>714843465
I always get sweaty seeing this stuff because if I wasn't so weird I could have been one of these guys lol.

>>714813868
The only reason Elon isn’t broke, is cause the US government is keeping cheaper and better Chinese EVs out with protectionist policies

CATL batteries have been superior to Tesla gigafactories for quite some time now

>>714843550
Yes and you're a shut in retard who hasn't been paying attention to real life. No modern company is going to reduce their profit margins because it gets cheaper to make.
The retard is you.

>>714843556
Don't feel bad anon, you probably couldn't have
It's the same as in actual artfaggotry, there's a million and one people trying but only a half dozen luck out into anything above minimum wage

>>714843339
>"LE SOCIETY IS BAD YET YOU PARTAKE IN AND ARE BENEFITTED BY IT! BE GRATEFUL!"
ok I'm still gonna criticize it
having benefits to a hyper-industrialized society doesn't suddenly mean it has no downsides nor that those downsides are insignificant, it has resulted in a lot of good and a lot of advancement but it's still led us to the shit spot we're in now

If you like AI slop you're certainly an NPC. You can't visualize an apple. You have no standards. You legally shouldn't be considered human. You can't change my mind on this.

If you don't understand my post, ask Grok to explain it for you.

>>714843707
I can do all that and I like AIslop.
I accept your concession in advance.

The pipe dream is like with other AI shit where it'll be like sci-fi where it does everything for you. The more realistic hope is for it to just facilitate doing particular tasks for you.
As just a personal example I like to modify a game. I do not have any scripting experience, and the tutorials for it are shattered and spread out over +10 year old posts on a ghostly forum and Discord servers that are a pain to navigate. I asked Visual Studio code's bot how to script something in the campaign it gave me it and after I sorted out a bug related to the original game rather than to the script it gave me it worked.
I'll have to see if it can help with more advanced scripting but if it can then I now have the means to do ideas that would have just been that without someone else helping: merely ideas. Since I haven't the time to learn the scripting code related to it from scratch, I've got other stuff to mod with textures and all or do real life shit.

Which is key - you have to have the work ethic to want to actually use it as a tool, not just expect it to babyfeed you. The point I always bring up with people wanting generative AI stories is nigga what the fuck are you waiting for? Stable Diffusion, photoshop or some equivalent. You have the means to make your own comics and mangas now. Learn how to do multiple characters in a scene, how to crop and do perspectives and so on. You can even have AI help you write it.

So why aren't you?

Because these (yous) are guys who are so fucking lazy (or Indian) they want to tell the AI
>Create a 60 page manga about XYZ.
And have it do everything. Or the idea of having to crop and splice and do any kind of mechanical work with the AI product is too much for them. It's just wanting mommy-AI to do everything start to finish so they can consooom.

>>714843556
You might have missed the boat. But in the beginning you could have made it pretty big

>>714843086
Why would anyone pay for AI slop. They know it took no effort to make it so why pay for it? The funny thing is all these corporations paying billions of dollars for a machine that can output an infinite amount of stuff that nobody will pay for. Digital content already has no scarcity so when you buy a video game you are really just paying for the labor. If there is no labor involved it is valueless.

>>714843763
>I can do all that
I only listed a single thing AI slop enjoyers can't do. Thanks for outing yourself as a Jeet lmao

>>714806849
based
i will never let a computer tell me shit

>>714843465
the fuck, that shit is so ass lmao my own gens are better than this, damn I gotta start marketing myself

>>714843651
I definitely good have, I was in there early.

>>714843843
>heh ACKSHULLY technicality so i win :^)
Like I said, I appreciate you conceding.

>>714843651
Also I don't feel bad since I made the conscious decision, I just get this sweaty feeling.

>>714843794
Yeah I was in there real early.

>>714843830
Those chocolate chips look a lot like dog noses wtf

>>714828637
You can use AI by yourself, yknow

>>714843779
No way fag. You can't just use AI as a handy tool, like photoshop or something. You have to go all in or you have to absolutely abhor it, nothing in between.

>>714843870
Great, everyone would love to see how you turn oned AI on Local PC the on the first try without having any idea what you were in for. If you can't show the evidence, then you are full of it and can shut your piehole.

The problem with these and other pursuits is balance and pacing, , experience a concept lost on someone of your meager intellect if you think I needed to get good in the first place. It was always about when they were encountered, not if they were impossible.

Run along back to whatever gutter you crawled out of, your posts are drivel better left unread.

>>714843465
I can see how they do it. 5 bucks a month and 1205 members would be 6025 bucks a month. Make it 1 dollar a month and it's the same deal. Miyu gets more than that estimated wise but it's that principle of low effort but broad consumerbase. Someone who is really horny for X character sees you have a series of X character and decides fuck it 2-5 dollars is a pittance. I just looked up a minor one and they've got 134 members with 202-1k a month doing paltry material.

Honestly I need to look into this for passive income.

>>714843870
It's all about how much you can output in a day and keep up with demands. that simple and knowing some basic marketing will give you some pretty good opportunities

>>714843948
that's what they make chocolate chips out of, idiot

>>714843637
lol why do retarded children like you speak. Using this logic the price of chicken meat would've never fallen because "bro the companies will just keep the price up"
No, my little clueless retard, they don't, because they compete with eachother. They WILL fuck their own profit margins for market share. Same as it ever was

>>714844047
Bullshit. I will fucking crush you.

>>714844034
not reading all that, enjoy your dilation sesh I guess

>>714843691
>LE SOCIETY IS BAD YET YOU PARTAKE IN AND ARE BENEFITTED BY IT!
I never at any point said power tools in agriculture are bad, that's all you. I'm quite grateful I don't have to fear hunger in my daily life, you're just a retarded ideologist spouting platitudes.

>>714806023 (OP)
AI-jeets will never make something comparable to deus ex or system shock but hey, they have the number and botfarms to spam this retarded board with retarded narratives

>>714844210
John Carmack disagrees with you

Digital art is bullshit, letting the tools do so much of the work for you. If you aren't using paints on canvas then you're a little poser bitch.

>>714844130
Clueless, do you even do your own shopping. Do you have a job?

>>714806849
Tech firms will get money from government contracts and your taxes.

>>714842668
You’ll just have to walk through a metal detector now
Although not that it matters, schools just wanna fast track these retards into graduation and out the school

>>714844252
The guy who's good with computer science but DOGSHIT in the field of game design yeah. I don't care. It's not like if we need more breakthroughs in graphics and computing power, because everything new and fancy is used against consumers nowadays to sell expensive PC parts now. Fuck that.
Look at the latest doom game.
Again. Fuck that.

>>714844272
You unironically sound like a child man. Are you not aware that chicken used to be an expensive sunday meal for affluent families only? Do you believe these things are all set in stone, and completely unrelated to supply and demand? It's crazy how hard you project at me because I am absolutely 100% sure you are completely clueless about finances on even the most basic level

Why are people who hate AI trying to hate Indian ethnicity at the same time, specially here on 4chan?

>>714844269
You are right. Digital artists are a joke and half of them already uses 3D models and draw over it.

>>714844457
>Are you not aware that chicken used to be an expensive sunday meal for affluent families only?
lol what the fuck am I reading

>>714807982
>People who leverage AI to augment their processes will beat out the ones who don't
AI tends to work mostly when you don't care that much what the end result is. Getting it to do something really specific is harder and sometimes impossible depending on the model and what you're trying to achieve.
Let's say you want to use it to speed up coloring and inking a comic. You draw some panels, get the img2img working, tweak the prompt until it generates a result you like and you think "cool, I'll just sketch the rest, run it through the workflow and be done before bedtime." And what actually happens is that it goes off model as fuck every other panel. So you prooompt harder, adjusting the input as well, maybe going back to your original panels and trying to get them to match the "new" style as well.
There's a reason we can only generate video clips and not long form content. Trying to keep the AI on target for any length of time is brutal.
Meanwhile the guy doing it the traditional way knew what he had to achieve and put it together over a work week, but the AI guy is sweating bullets because it's now Thursday and he's wasted 3 days redoing AI fuckups. And it's been 5 years since AI started being the new hotness. If it was going to get any better we'd have seen it by now, not just "we figured out how to waste MORE power."

>>714844492
It's a marketing trick. They're hoping to associate AI with an unpopular group. Other places use similar tricks, like saying that only racists or faggots use AI, depending on the audience.

>>714806023 (OP)
i'm starting to think we might actually start missing the days when the biggest problem in gaming were woke faggots in the next few years

>>714841270
>We are now 6 years into "in 10-12 months AI is going to take all your jobs"
I work for a tech company that tracks transformative emerging technologies and the time before they hit mass market appeal. All our models say shit like this is more like 6-8 years away. Fun fact, robot home assistants are projected to hit their market adoption in a similar timeframe. Just hang in there boys, our robowives are coming...

>>714844252
John Carmack thought VR was cool. He failed to do anything at all with it because it sucks and so does he. The man knew how to turn well known algorithms into shit hot Intel assembly and integrate it into a medium scale project. That's a talent, but it's not godly. Better than the drooling retards that made up the industry at the time, sure, but nothing world changing. So it's natural he'll have opinions about things that he has no clue about.

>>714844518
I guess you can google it man. It's common knowledge that chicken used to be an expensive meat and is now the cheapest and most consumed, and it's because of advancements in farming practices that it swapped over.
It's really funny that you're so incredibly incredulous about something as well documented and well known as this but you're still trying to pretend you're anything but a shutin neet who doesn't know shit about the world. Downright sad

>>714844492
Because they're extremely cheap so corpo-kikes use them for large scale shilling OP?
It's like an open air biomechanical super computer made out off a billion indians, you throw a few cents and they do your bidding. No surprise we make the comparison between them an AI. It's dumb, remorseless, and decent for mass automation of simple tasks. India represents everything corporations want from humanity.

>>714843465
So what confuses me is that Patreon is supposed to have become more hostile to NSFW, but they clearly do sexual stuff. Is it just they mega.nz or whatever the more explicit dick in vagina stuff and have the pinup softcore as the preview?

>>714842929
you're half right. Human art will become more sought after, but as a niche hobby-grade thing. Kind of like how some people still purchase vinyl records

>>714844636
>I work for a tech company that tracks transformative emerging technologies and the time before they hit mass market appeal.
Interesting, tell us more

>>714844814
>>714844518
>chicken was historically considered a luxury food and was significantly more expensive than it is today. Until the mid-20th century, chicken was primarily eaten on special occasions or Sundays, not as a regular meal. This was due to the high cost of raising chickens, as they required grain feed and were not as readily available as other meats like beef or pork.

>>714844890
You're on the right track, but try taking a more comprehensive perspective. You're doing well!

>>714841025
I used it before and it 100% isnt, aislop models only shit out the same person for certain tags you put in
you will have better results by searching on google for shit with those same tags and mix matching stuff yourself

>>714842929
Almost everything people buy today is mass produced by machines. Most people either don't care or can't afford to buy things made by skilled human hands.

>>714844636
"Adoption" and "mass market success" can be two different things, just look at Amazon Alexa. Shilled to fuck, sold at massive discounts, given away for free, billed as *THE* hot christmas gift idea and EVERYONE had to have one, probably two. Enormous uptake... near total failure. Exactly none of the extended features Amazon envisioned for it gained adoption. In the end it gets used as an irritating smart speaker with better than average voice commands and a handful of people use it to turn their smart lights on and off. Bezos was determined to make it a thing and he failed. New CEO could give as much of a toss as the users of the damn thing.

RANGEBAN INDIA I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE

>>714844518
where's your humility? Anon is teaching you things and you're acting like a spoiled brat

>>714844993
>>714844814
I like how you think all people lived in cities for all time.

>>714844545
>it's been 5 years since AI started being the new hotness. If it was going to get any better we'd have seen it by now
You're nuts, dude. Not only has it gotten a lot better but clearly you realize you it's a useful tool to involve in your processes, you don't have to (and shouldn't) just let it do everything anyway.

>>714831076
He's probably just heavily autistic and missed the meaning of the message, interpreting "hours" as literal

>>714845030
lol retard

>>714806023 (OP)
>Actual examples of these models being used to generate actual gameplay?
WHAMM, by Microsoft, is an autoregressive token model trained on Quake II, to recreate Quake II.
It was released back in April of this year. It's barely playable dogshit.
Enemies phase in and out of existence, health jumps around, the 'game' can't remember any of the level's layout so you teleport around,
there's a hard time limit because of the limited memory, ect.
It's also free:
https://copilot.microsoft.com/gaming

To be fair: they cut the time down from 7 years of necessary training data to 1 week of training data from W1.6b to WHAMM which is a massive and impressive improvement for what it is. They went from 7 years to push out a turd, to just days to squish out shit.

The internet was an overhyped fad and the bubble popped in the Dot Com bust.

>>714845368
I get real confused when people say AI is as big as the internet when it's actually bigger than electricity or steam engines.

>>714806386
TECHNOLOGY WILL NEVER IMPROVE

(I HAVE ALREADY WIPED THE LAST TIMES I SAID THIS FROM MY MIND)

>>714807253
I am quite sure you could do a fast img2img AI game.

>>714845156
I like how you think this has anything to do with cities. The reason chicken used to be expensive meat is because grains were more expensive. That isn't related to cities, that's because before the advent of farming power tools (harvester machines) harvesting grain was a massive undertaking that required multiple hundred wandering workers that came to harvest during harvest season. Nowadays one man and a tractor is enough, which means you can really feed a lot of chickens a lot of food for very cheap. Other stuff like advancements in breeding and modifying plants to yield more also helped of course.
As a result, chickens became very cheap to raise, and very cheap to turn into the behemoth chickens of today. All that mass needs feed. The average meat chicken today weighs like 4 kilograms. It used to be closer to 900 grams per chicken.

Anyways, that's how power tools in agriculture directly made your chicken cheaper. Companies didn't just "retain the profits", they competed with eachother.

I'm about to head out but here's a little fun fact for you: Supermarkets today literally sell you eggs and milk at a loss. This is called "loss leading" products. The point of that is that people decide which supermarket they go to based on those prices, but obviously won't just buy the eggs there. So they'll accept the loss on eggs and milk (among other things) and then get the profits back with other things that they have better profit margins on. The point I'm making is that companies making money is a lot more complex than you think and they don't just "keep prices high to make more money". A child might think that. You ought to know better

You know, if you want to know something, you can just ask. You don't have this smugpost shit where you pretend you know anything about it and confidently spout some absolute falsehood.

>>714844893
not much more to say, every year we release annual forecasts for emerging technologies. It's kind of our more anticipated releases. Within that there's categories for the level or transformative effect this tech will have on the market, and the level of mass appeal. The ones I'm focused on are the "disruptors", aka the tech that will have the most transformative appeal.

For example, we predict that by 2030 over 80% of all human workers in first-world countries will be interfacing with robots on a daily basis. We also track companies in each space that are developing the tech that we think will be leading the charge in that particular space. Really interesting stuff

>>714845030
>t. surface level retard

>>714845609
I think his retardation runs quite deep actually

>>714845532
chickens eat bugs and worms noob

>>714845443
this tbqh, it's on the same scale as the industrial revolution, if not moreso

>>714845707
not if you want them to be over 1kg and affordable they don't buddy

>>714806849
I was hoping AI would empower modding with creating fully voiced NPC and here there are bitter people wishing for AI death.

>>714845772
alright you win
I wasn't the other guy you were arguing with and I was just thinking of my grandma talking about chickens but that was 100~ years ago

>>714840640
...Okay?
Go on, we're listening retard

>>714844814
>literally niggerfeed
>it's actually um...because it was expensive ok? Also the economy works exactly like it did in the 20th century things will get le cheaper because I say it will!

>>714845857
That's literally already happening. There are several mods out there that use convincing AI versions of the original voice actors

>>714846067
>it's niggerfeed today, so it always was
cope harder. Go outside, read, learn about the world. This is sad. I feel like I'm talking to a fatherless child who never got to go to the forest with his dad, who never had a pinecone explained to him and you can only cope by being retarded and hostile online. Find peace nigger.

>>714832578
No one will be willing to play 99 games to find the one good one.

>>714846234
You don't have to play a game to know it might be worth trying. And if it's worth trying one guy will try it and spread the word about it being good. And then you have a chain reaction.

>/v/ suddenly loves beep beep procedural rng pixel sloppa because at least it was "made by a real human"
love to see it

>>714846196
>niggerfeed today
Where did you think the association of blacks and fried chicken came from. Cause it wasn't after KFC was established

>>714844789
VR is cool thoughbeit. Not our fault that most people are too poor to even try it.

>>714846356
trannies don't represent /v/

>>714846432
everyone likes chicken and watermelon anon

>>714846234
People will find them and talk about them in places like this. Like The Alters, great game I played recently, haven't seen anyone talk about it. Also we can just let AI play the games for us lmao

>>714846548
That's okay, I'm not going to use it either, but we shouldn't be so harsh on people that like things that we might not like so much. It takes all sorts you know! And I'm not gonna yuck their yum if they aren't hurting anyone lol

>>714846234
there's an entire industry meant to find the good games to shill them for our entertainment lol

>>714840464
It's not a nitpick because that's fundamentally the flaw of AI in the way it works:

AI is a stochastic algorithm. It does approximations of what you think you want.
But programming, not coding but actual programming which includes the planning of how the data should go, is something very precise.

What's a loop hole or fucked up hands in an AI piece is a critical memory leak inside the code that will lead the game to crash or even brick your entire system within a game.

Additionally many of the most perfect AI pieces are the result of hundreds of iterations of AI works with LOTS of manual adjustments. But code being what it is, there comes a point where it's probably just faster to write the code yourself than to let AI do this and then you just run around fixing the mistakes.

Especially since generative AI is all about turning human words into something else, like images. But code is ALREADY words describing a chain of actions. So all AI ultimately is is an interface from natural speak to computer speak but that's about it. In the end for it to work just the way you want to you have to describe what you want in such a detailed manner that you may as well just be coding in the first place.

Generative AI works great on images because individual flaws don't matter on an image, it's all about the greater whole of the end result. Additionally no flaw really affects the end result. If some part of the image is fucked up the rest of the image doesn't care.
But that's just not how programming works. Even the tiniest flaw can make the entire construct collapse in on itself... or straight up not even compile in the first place, which is the most likely outcome.

>>714846674
horrifying

>>714846854
>It's not a nitpick
yes it is

>>714846906
Confirmed being technologically illiterate if you think it is.

>>714846854
Guy literally wrote a novel because a random Tifa generation triggered him. This genner isn't even good, they use crap models but it's /v/ so hey.

>>714846854
didn't read, you can literally use AI to fix those holes lol

>>714846842
It's already extremely difficult for indie games to get noticed. 1000x more shovelware games will make discoverability much worse.

>>714846854
you guys should really try modern models first instead of repeating something another man have said in 2024
it's getting embarrassing

>>714847115
>It's already difficult for random piles of crap to get noticed
How is that my problem?

The only way this could ever be a problem is if AI will make 1000x more indie games worth playing, which it will, but that's a good problem to have for consumers.

>>714847246
For one thing most of those games won't have any genuine reviews so you won't even know if they function properly. Valve just takes the $100 and allows the games without any quality control. Same thing will happen if you gen your own games.

Uncreative people (apple status: none) hate AI because even with all those tool they are unable to create ANYTHING
I'd be sad but that just confirms the NPC theory. Some of you just aren't real.

The AI nonsense is already going away. Nobody is going to be talking about it in 1-2 years, like VR

It's so fucking funny watching pajeets treat AI like magic.

>>714847614
unironic 50 IQ

>>714847697
It just makes collages of real people's work. Eventually it will run out of material and eat itself, problem solved lol

not paying for jeetslop

>>714847894
>It just makes collages of real people's work.
How?
>Eventually it will run out of material and eat itself,
What?

trannies circlecoping is so funny

>>714848098
Sorry that you're dumb

>>714848528
lmao

>>714847894
We don't have enough power to feed everything to the machine, dummy. Otherwise we'd have one unified model instead of a thousand different ones. Why are you guys always so inclined to talk about the things you know nothing about?

>>714847581
Tits too big

I'm already nostalgic for 2023 when the big LLMs weren't even more retarded than llama running on a potato. I have no idea how anyone in their right mind imagines AI like this could be useful for anything. You can't even get them to remember who's dick is in who with allegedly unprecedented amounts of context memory and tokens. Image and video generative models are great, not as compute hungry and easy to get quality outputs running locally, which is why they're taking off while Grok is just kind of a robot lolcow.

>>714849573