Now that the dust has settled, was Dark Souls a good game?

>>714812032 (OP)
No

>>714812032 (OP)

Castrate Fromniggers

Dark Souls might be the most discussed game in human history. There's literally hundreds of shitty essays about it.

>>714812152
make her bigger

>>714812032 (OP)

>>714812341
And then when you actually play it it's just boring. It's a very strange phenomenon.

>>714812032 (OP)
It was half of a good game.
My DeS characters weren't done until they got an RP appropriate ending, I started considering S&O the end of Dark Souls at like playthrough 5.

>>714812564
People have to talk about it so much because actually playing it isn't very fun.

>>714812032 (OP)
Are giant women the dark souls of fetishes?

it was a good game, just not a good souls game

>>714813754
yes there's so many pitfalls with the shitty subfetishes especially snuff garbage I can only enjoy like 10% of it

>>714812032 (OP)
>now that the souls have settled was dark souls a good dark souls?

It's Fromsoft's only good game but the game itself is mediocre.

>>714812032 (OP)
5318008

I never played Dark Souls but it sounds like your character keeps getting stats after every death. So if you play it enough, the game eventually becomes easy-mode.

Not sure how this shit ever blew up.

>>714812032 (OP)
Our guy Mork said it was good, so yeah

DS1 is pretty decent.
The world design is the best in the series as its unlinear but never unneccesarely long like ER and is connected in some really clever ways.
The combat feels good and satishfying.
There are enough decent builds you can do which enables replayability.
Bosses are decent enough tho maybe to easy for experts.

I think its a pretty decent game.

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>>714816426
That doesn’t happen. But in the third game you can get a few free level ups from dying over and over.
All of the souls games are easy as shit though. You literally have a button you push that not only moves your character instantly in any direction but also gives you invincibility and you can clip through basically every attack in the series while doing this so you can just clip right through boss attacks and move right up to them for some easy hits.
But retards think this actually takes skill so it appeals to losers who want to feel like they’re actually good at video games.

>>714812152
Made for BWC

>>714816426
Even games around that time were much harder with higher difficulty modes. CoD slop beat them to it.

DS1 bosses punish button mashing tho.
In many other games you can just spam dodge and attack and be fine in ds1 you had to know your openings and when to dodge at least.
I also think the bosses were more creative then nowadays.

>>714816997
*BBC
Sry, autocorrection.

>>714812032 (OP)
i feel like mork is the only regular upload youtuber who's worth watching anymore, he almost fills the void left by matthewmatosis

>>714816778
DS1’s world is so overrated. Yeah the start is great with so many different options and areas connecting to 3 or more others at a time…but then it just stops. Sen’s fortress only goes to anor londo. The catacombs only goes to tomb of the giants. Demon ruins only goes to lost izalith. Half of the game is super linear in this kind of progression and of the stuff that is available in the early part you realize it’s mostly for show. Like yeah you COULD go to new londo right away but what’s the point? You can’t beat it until halfway through the game. Why go to somewhere like ash lake early when the trek back without bonfire warping is cancer?
I would wager that like 95% of playthroughs, NG+ or otherwise, follow generally the same route every time.

Its one of my favorite games of all time but I will forever resent people who forced the meme that it’s the hardest game ever to the point Fromsoft’s marketing picked up on it.
To this day, even in this very thread, people will swear up and down the only people who like it pretend to for some kind of weird ego boost.

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>>714817393
Eh the masterkey makes it worth it.
And you can still decide to go to the forest for the moonlight buttefly kr the cataxombs for the giants first.
And this alone is more interesting then caatlevania which was fake unlinearity.

>>714812476
>for his own personal reasons
fucking legend

>>714813754
Rare was doing this before it was cool
>Humba Wumba
>Jugga
>Candy Kong

>>714817474
Many normies just sucked at the game.
They usually think nirmal difficulty is about oressing one button and then win automatically.
Dark souls was their first game in a while that required a few more braincells to dodge an attack and attack at the right time and normies thought that it made the hardest game ever.
I legit despise normies.

>>714812476
We need more chads like this and less yesman cucks we have now in game dev circles.

>>714816861
>That doesn’t happen
Wait, so you lose all your stats if you die? That doesn't sound right.

souls games were always overrated slop. they finally realized this with sekiro and then immediately went back with elden ring. tragic.

>>714817393
It's because it feels so connected, even if you have a fairly obvious intended route most of the time.
The reactivity of the world (Firelink Shrine going out for example) is also, while extremely limited, massively impactful. Unlike most games, where you get cosmetic changes or a voice line but no real meaning, the loss feels like a personal attack and truly tragic.
There are a decent number of choices too; I did Four Kings right before the end on my first playthrough even though they're intended to be done much earlier.
The game has a lot of shortcomings, particularly in the unfinished areas and horrendous choices like the forced death and literally everything to do with multiplayer, but overall it is very good and feels cohesive.

>>714817474
I hate this too; the game isn't even hard, much less excessively so. I watched a midwit friend play years ago, and I found out how it got the reputation though. He literally just refused to read. The guy at the start who said go ring the bells? He talked to him, but it was in one ear out the other, and he ran off to die in the Catacombs forever. Elemental weaknesses? Refused to use them. Same with all items really, it was just his weapon and estus. He did the Giants area blind because he didn't want to figure out how to get a light source, and thought skeletons were bullshit because he literally never figured out to use holy damage to stop them from rezzing.
From that perspective, I understand how it could be difficult. Most games you can get away with just never using consumables and hoarding them or selling them, but Dark Souls really encourages you to use them. Things like Homeward Bone, the various ranged weapons for pulling single mobs, and weapon coatings to use an element make the game (in my opinion) on the easy side for an RPG. But without them, there will be certain fights or areas that punish your build pretty severely.

>>714818418
The fact that we cant fuck her is an argument of a bad game.
I dont like being cucked liked that

>>714812032 (OP)
In comparison to the others for feeling finished and a properly complete product? No, it has a pretty strong beginning and middle, but once you hit the Lord Souls hunt past Anor Londo, the game is poorly designed and structured. Even Dark Souls 2 with its fucked up world layout had some better progression set up even if none of it made sense.

>>714818464
you keep your stats you just don't gain any when you die. you're probably thinking of souls (exp). when you die you lose them but if you get back to where you died without dying again you get them back so yeah if you kill everything on the way back then you basically just double your exp so if you keep dying but making it back you'll level up faster.

>>714818496
QTEkiro is the worst offender of shitty action games next to Ninja Blade. Dark Souls 1 is a league of its own but the other entries are pure shit.

>>714818402
And this is an illusion Gwendolin made...
of his sister...

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>>714817247
Insult to Mark, Matt is way dumber.

>>714812032 (OP)
>>714816710
>traversal bad
>combat good
He's a pseud who thinks every game should be an action game

>>714818540
You're cock is too small to fuck someone that size.

Bloodborne has and will always shit all over the souls series. IDK why they brought even fucking DS2 to PC before BB.

>>714812032 (OP)
never played it but its fanbase is insuferable (all fromsoftware games are) and they'd shit and piss them selves playing a mildly difficult game like doom with the plutonia wad

>>714812032 (OP)
dark souls is the fortine battle royale of video games
the damage it has done to video games is insane

>>714818946
Troonborne is equivalent to Dark Sharts 2.

>>714816426
what? where did you even hear that?

>>714819029
I would say the same about every genre that ever existed.

>>714818946
>boring linear corridor level design ala DS3
>all the fun weapons are locked behind dlc

>>714812564
>>714813168
Based ds3 babies, keep on flossin!

In all seriousness it's one of the most mid games ever made. It's legitimately hilarious how everyone who plays it agrees the second half is bad yet we still have to pretend it's a masterpiece. Please tell me the last time you said "the top half of this painting is beautiful but the bottom half is covered in feces....it's a masterpiece".
Also there's a ton of fundamental issues with the first half too if we're being honest it's more like 1/3 good 1/3 okay 1/3 bad.

>>714819029
>Gave us Nioh
I wouldn't say it destroyed anything unless you're talking about the Chinese who just entered the gaming sphere very recently.

>>714819339
The only part of the second half I don’t like is Izalith.

>>714819339
The rest of the series never peaks like it did in the beginning. The others are different ranges of liquid shart. Fromsoft couldn't capture it again since they refused to innovate.

>>714812032 (OP)
Dark Souls was a good game, it just wasn't a good Dark Souls game.

>>714819507
Oh really you enjoyed shitty boss spam ruins? You enjoyed pitch black tomb of the skeleton beasts? Kill yourself.

>>714819339
Fromsoft stagnation is real and a mid game seems like a masterpiece now.

>>714817393
>Like yeah you COULD go to new londo right away but what’s the point?
For fun

>>714819740
Seethe about it faggot.

>>714819740
nta but yes I did

>>714819591
Elden Ring recaptured that quality almost entirely from start to finish though. Shadow of the erdtree literally recaptures that quality from start to finish.

>>714819339
What you're calling the """"""""""second""""""""" """""""half"""""""" is like.... four small areas

>>714812476
>Kinoko Nasu likes dark souls
>Hayao Miyazaki likes Fate and Tsukihime
>both are into giantesses
why aren't they friends yet?

>>714819846
>empty soulless copy pasted world is peak cuz I said so
No.

>>714819740
>You enjoyed pitch black tomb of the skeleton beasts?
Yes and you are a bitch for complaining about that lmao

>>714819863
Who cares none of it is fun except maybe the duke's archives and only if you don't die because the runbacks in that one are the worst in the game. You beat anor londo and you might as well just turn the game off because the fun's over.

>>714819956
>LITERALLY the most critically acclaimed fromsoft game to date
yeah keep pretending it's actually shit and everyone other than you is too stupid to see that.

>>714812032 (OP)
dark souls it just a ripp off of zelda with berserk aesthetic and a annoying stamina bar.

>>714819846
I wish I could agree.
There’s so much padding and filler in the overworld it gets depressing. No real thought or care was put into it because they know the only reason anyone is playing the game is for the stupid boss fights.
I could not pick out a single memorable moment from any of the “dungeons.” The catacombs especially all just blend together.

>>714819339
>how everyone who plays it agrees the second half is bad
Wait did your copy of dark souls have a massive lost izalith area? Is every copy of dark souls personalized? Mine only had a small area thats pretty quick to run through, maybe about 5% of the game at most.

>>714820068
Tomb of The Giants and Londo Ruins are fun.
Painted World too.

>>714820181
>I listen to urnalists who suck GRRM cock and worship the ground he walks on giving his uninspired generic empty slop that he barely touched 10/10s.
Keep having shit taste while everyone can see how much of a newfaggot you are.

>/v/ unironically defending tomb of shit and trying to downplay the quality drop in late game
DS1 fans are mentally ill. At least DS3 chads will openly admit the game isn't good until ithryll.

>>714819846
Literally all of the side content is indistinguishable
Like you can't even tell the difference between catacombs in the different regions, they're all the same

>>714817474
It did immeasurable damage to the subgenre in general which is why DeS and DS1 are still the best by far (and DeS is better), ironically because they aren't difficult outside of a few unfair traps.

>>714820392
>DS3 bab reveals himself
should have known all along

>>714819325
Aaayyyy

The hardest part of the game was dying at the scaleless fuckwad since there's no way you could've known it was scripted
If you died at that point in the game you were doing it on purpose because of the infinite teleports to a bonfire from a vendor or spell, so I got hardstuck there until I looked it up
No possible way you could've learned it in game and absolutely fucking bullshit

>>714820746
You think they would make you fight the boss that early especially since the Duke's Archives looks so much bigger.

>>714820213
>No real thought or care was put into it because they know the only reason anyone is playing the game is for the stupid boss fights
Which has always been true. Dark souls has to legit be your first video game ever for you to find the levels themselves interesting. It's literally just zelda dungeon design but without the puzzles or anywhere near as clever structuring.

>>714820852
Since he takes no damage it's obvious there's some fuckery going on, but I thought I needed an item or something and the ground would break and open to a larger area
But to know I had to die was simply impossible without external knowledge

>>714812032 (OP)
It was rollslop all this time and we had no idea.

>>714820746
Genuinely the only part of the game I feel is blatantly bad design. Worst part is you lose your souls and humanity too so you get punished for not having foreknowledge of what would happen.

>>714820975
Puzzles are meaningless filler.

It was decent game that started a great genre. But it was no masterpiece, half of it isn't finished, most of the bosses are easy and forgettable. The areas range from great to terrible. The lore is very thought through as well. Altogether a solid game that later got polished through other From titles. Pretending is a masterpiece is silly though, it isn't by any measure.

>>714820975
>maze like levels but without handholdy sliding block puzzles or some other gay shit
sounds great
same reason I like metroid and castlevania

>>714821756
Later games weren't any better.

>>714821865
Almost every single one was better except for DS II and DS III. Dark Souls is the weakest of the From franchises. Its almost like they use these games to practice and make better titles later.

>>714817393
>Like yeah you COULD go to new londo right away but what’s the point? You can’t beat it until halfway through the game.
Skill issue

>>714821397
No, puzzles are meaningful content. Enemies are meaningless filler. Soulsborne levels are legit just empty corridors filled with braindead enemies you'll kill in one or two hits to give the illusion of content. It's telling that when people respawn the most common thing they'll do is run past all the enemies because bothering to fight them all again isn't even interesting.

>>714821958
Nope. BB is the same but with shittier levels and bosses. Sekiro is a weak action game that tries to be Tenchu but fails. AC6 is another Sekiro clone and ER is the same but emptier world and more copy and pasted bloatshit.

>>714822145
People don't fight the enemies because once you know where they are and how to avoid them they're not impeding your progress.

>>714822290
Sure thing, buddy

>>714822309
People do fight enemies, because it's fun.

>>714822145
Puzzles in Zelda are braindead easy fodder and an excuse to hide the lack of variety in boss and enemy design.

>>714822372
i only kill the enemies again in elden ring. the other games spam enemies too much.

>>714818512
Listening or reading to the dialogue in souls games is torture. I don't blame them.

>>714812032 (OP)
It's perfect

>>714822642
try sex

>>714822642
try tongue but hole

>>714812032 (OP)
Yes. There's a reason the Souls IP is as big as it is and and that reason is Dark Souls 1. At the time it felt like a more mature evolution of Zelda.

>>714817170
yea id love to see big titties on the british broadcasting channel

>>714812341
What causes this?

>>714812032 (OP)
bump

>>714825610
being stuck in life

>>714818817
Most games are action games. If it isn't an action game then it's either turn based or a point and click.

>>714819025
>dark souls is loved because it's hard!
Man the marketing of ds2 really was cancer. No one has talked like that since 2014, nobody even thinks it's a particularly hard game anymore. It's just good. One of the best maybe.

>>714831146
>DS2
Are we forgetting OG Dark Souls marketing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LFz_j5fQA
Or hell the Prepare to Die Edition PC port?

>>714831665
nta but nothing about that says it's super difficult; dying is a normal game mechanic you're literally undead

>>714831665
I lost count of how many times I watched that promo throughout the years.

>>714832129
The trailer literally goes "PREPARE TO DIE."

Mork and his bunch of cocksuckers should be permabanned from this board

>>714832731
>dying is a normal game mechanic

>>714833160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpLhv21BS0

>>714820392
>ds3 baby
Lmao called it earlier in the thread

>>714833409
See >>714833160
I'm sorry you're retarded, but in an era where just reloading was the standard for dying (which it still is for most games), this was rather novel. You canonically die rather than reload a save.

>>714834349
Why would you need to "prepare to die" if it's just a normal game mechanic. Why are you so desperate to pretend that the marketing FROM BAMCO for Dark Souls from the start was reliant on how so many people saw Demon's Souls as a "hard" game.

Tits