Is Undertale Yellow worth playing in 2025?

>>714827032 (OP)
yeah.
as long as you ignore the first area and the pacifist ending.

>>714827151
First area is fine, but yeah the last 5% of the game on pacifist fumbles so hard I struggle to believe anyone on the dev team thought that was a good idea.

>>714827032 (OP)
Do a pacifist run and then kill the finally boss
It's the only ending worth a damn/makes sense canonically

It's alright but all i say is that the story of the game is centered around the second worst mom in all of underground the attosecond she shows up so if you don't like Ceroba, you won't like UTY.

>>714827032 (OP)
In hindsight, I had a better time with Undertale Yellow than Deltarune chapters 3 +4, despite UTY's flaws

Every problem in UTY would get solved if someone fucked Ceroba and made a Kanako 2, Chujin could not have a good dicking game to leave Ceroba like that, right?

>>714827032 (OP)
Its free and not that long, so yeah. Even if you value your time you don't stand to lose much. Just remember to skip the pacifist ending, it sucks.

>>714827548
Yeah honestly, I think Yellow came at the right time for me, an inadvertently got me to turn my life around for the better. I’ve already forgotten how I truly felt playing 3 + 4 but I will never forget how good it felt to shoot flowey’s teeth out.

>>714827032 (OP)
dont bother, its a piece of shit. even devs admitted to it. LOL.

>>714827775
>Chujin could not have a good dicking game to leave Ceroba like that, right?
No, it was too good, and she could never get over the void left by him.

>>714827790
who could have guessed that playing things straight works better most of the time than coming up with bullshit just to be different

>>714827032 (OP)
>making a thread right after the peak purging of the 'runes
well worth it, despite the flaws

>>714827304
>First area is fine.
It's almost devoid of characters and the one that does have significant screentime is the worst character in the game. It's not unplayable but it's pretty bad and if it wasn't grandfathered in by being part of the 2016 demo it wouldn't get as much slack.

>>714828010
>Nerdy scrawny fuck somehow has the only dick that could please Ceroba
I still don't believe it, otherwise Ceroba would be constantly pregnant.

>>714827032 (OP)
It was fun, but the fox lady thought herself the protagonist, I killed her

>>714828540
ditto and I have no regrets
total foxes death when?

>>714828528
said nerdy scrawny fuck is canonically taller than her

>>714828528
Every subsequent pregnancy would Chujin's lifespan in half.

>>714828540
>I killed her
If anything you did her a favor, now she is in the afterlife with her husband. That's too happy of an ending for her, she deserves every day to be alone without a daughter to charm her up and every night without a husband to dick her down.

>>714828783
the concept of afterlife is non-existence on monsterkind
so its fine

>>714828783
>>714828680
>>714828540
Man, you guys are harsh.

>>714828680
Some foxes are alright

This is the worst written character in any game I’ve ever played.
I still think she’s cute

>>714828774
I meant that if Chujin's dick game was good, the amount of cum inside Ceroba would've inseminated all of her ovums after 1 single sexy night.

>>714829014
explain

Are there funny lines, endearing characters? Is interacting with every object interesting?

>>714828928
Monster afterlife is inhabiting an inanimate object for eternity.

>>714829070
She is like a very worse Papyrus, she cannot be as stupid as that bonehead to seriously think that this kid who has already blood (or in this case monster dust (cocaine) in his hands) in his hands and think that he can be bargained with, her role in genocide is stupid, she is stupid damn it but not in a charming way like Papyrus.

>>714828950
In a way I see Kanaclover as payback for Starlo getting cucked. So in the end, Starlo would've gotten the last laugh.
It's too bad this will never be canon

>>714829028
I don't think monsters have ovums. I wouldn't be surprised if the sensation of pleasure is what makes the child.

>>714828783
>>714828928
speaking of death, why does the clothes of monster disintegrates as well once they died?

>>714829158
>Are there funny lines, endearing characters?
depends on your taste
>Is interacting with every object interesting?
yes
there is no gaster type shit, but after the (still ongoing) WAIT torture and the recent mike fiasco, it's definitely for the best

>>714829158
>endearing characters?
if we are talking about random npcs, the vending machine was pretty memorable

>>714829624

>>714829158
yes

>>714829287
UTY isn't canon either.

I started playing this some time ago and got up to where you're kidnapped by the cowboy weirdos obsessed with humans.

I assume from the first few posts it gets better? Because so far the game is extremely tedious, both in gameplay and writing. The battles are generally fine, but so many enemies have weirdly lengthy bullet patterns or require 3-4 turns to spare. And the story/characters so far are incredibly dull. I haven't had a single moment that got a chuckle out of me despite being one of those dumbasses that found every joke in Undertale to be the most hilarious shit out there. The bird girl is charming to an extent, but the dull vampire looking guy was garbage, and the cowboy dude and weirdly anime fox woman are just there so far.

Also, why does every single NPC talk your ear off? My thumb was genuinely getting sore going through dialogue since even generic gag characters have like, 5-6 full text boxes of talking, then more if you talk again. Maybe I'm looking back on Undertale with rose-tinted glasses, but I swear most NPCs had 1 or 2 sentences, a quick gag, and that was it. It kept things snappy.

I probably shouldn't judge too harshly considering how Undertale doesn't get into proper story telling much until the last third of the game, but still. I feel like I'm just moving from scene to scene without a single laugh or fun moment. It feels really plain. It gets better, right?

>>714830096
>got up to where you're kidnapped by the cowboy weirdos obsessed with humans
>and the cowboy dude and weirdly anime fox woman are just there so far.
you are only half of the game nigger
at least wait and reach steamworks to start getting your thoughts out

>>714827032 (OP)
Are we allowed to have this thread?
IF SO
My hot take:
Yellow, despite its flaws, had a better pacifist ending than Undertale, and they did a fantastic job with Flowey.

>>714830460
I feel like a halfway point for a game should be enough to start forming some thoughts anon. Halfway into Undertale you already have Toriel, Papyrus, Sans, Undyne, Snowdin as a whole, and all of the hijinks included.

Not saying this game needs to compare to Undertale, but I think halfway is pretty fair to start wondering when it gets more interesting.

>>714829852
Toby approves it, so my headcannon says it's cannon except for the game taking a year before Undertale, that's kinda dumb

>>714828928
Doesn't Ceroba say something along the lines of "Chujin, I'm coming" when she dies in Flawed Pacifist? I haven't played it since the game came out

>>714830669
I'd say the argument checks out but this game is far more shorter than undertale
imo, if you at least reached the entrance of steamworks, you'd already seen the good chunks of the game

>>714827032 (OP)
neutral and especially genocide go hard but man the pacifist route is just retarded. i hate the furry donut steel oc ceroba so much its unreal

>>714830893
Fair enough. I intend to finish it, I just feel like I haven't seen much of a spark so far. Maybe it sounds petty, but I at least expected to get a chuckle here and there throughout what I've played, but nothing has really hit me. And, again, I'm the kind of idiot that lost it at Sans' blue stop sign speech, or the dog marriage sign that changes when you look at it again.

I'll keep going, but I hope there's a bit more to it that I'm just not seeing yet.

Feels a bit to early for another Yellow thread on /v/, but okay
I'm also getting hard filtered by Zartlet.

>>714831140
you might like the last area a bit more, but don't expect toby writing from people who are not toby

>>714831202
I only manage to beat her in my first playthrough by turning on auto-fire
currently beating her again, properly this time no golden bandana too

>>714827032 (OP)
yes, i played it to quell the WAIT for deltarune but ending up loving it as much as UT

be sure to fight the neutral boss, even if you have to saveswap from one online

>>714831463
I require as many Undertale Yellow Genoslides images as possible

>Thread gets 50 replies in an hour and suddenly dies
Um, what? Is this something to do with some other thread?

>>714827032 (OP)
Kanako's death was a clever satire on the vax.

>>714827032 (OP)
maybe next year, after that the next year you can play it is 2028 and there are tentative predictions that you can play undertale yellow in 2034 and 2041

>>714833351
yellow threads has always been slow ever since deltarune hype started
get used to it

>>714827790
For the better?

>>714830860
That just means she's cumming because she's also a masochist and thats why she asked clover to shoot her, she didnt actually expect clover to want to kill her due to her iq

>>714831691

>>714830762
toby doesnt approve it because of the lore or anything, he just wants to see more fanprojects/games inspired by him just like how he was inspired (thats the whole point of gerson's battle), unfortunately materia is being really anal about stuff lately

>>714833926
QRD on materia? I heard some fan projects were getting copyrighted by some faggot music studio but never did a deep dive on the drama.

>>714834021
it's the music label toby signed a contract with back when he was a no name dev when UT first came out, makes sense since he wanted to protect his music
but music labels are one of the most notoriously evil things to ever exist, and they are extremely petty, so out of nowhere after UTY came out (because it was pretty much the only fully finished fangame), they jumped on it like sharks because they dared to steal a few pennies in ad revenue from them (toby had to jump him and tell sebastian wolff to back off after he made a fool of himself on twitter)
now after DR ch 3 and 4 they smelled the blood (money) in the water again and are going on a take down spree on anything that isn't their officially sanctioned uploads, because that's taking money away from them

>>714834220
>now after DR ch 3 and 4 they smelled the blood (money) in the water again and are going on a take down spree on anything that isn't their officially sanctioned uploads, because that's taking money away from them
The company is also lying about trying to deal with the take down spree btw

>>714829852
>>714833926
Just as planned

>>714834220
what the hell is the counterplay to this if you're making a fangame anyways.
do you just have to make sure that your tracks have nothing that can be traced to the base game and go with a publisher that isnt as anal about things?

>>714834643
what's that image?

>>714834754
fiend inside us

>>714834727
>do you just have to make sure that your tracks have nothing that can be traced to the base game
if you want to avoid takedowns, yeah, the UTY team was only able to put their official tracks on the spotify but none that were derivative from UT
>and go with a publisher that isnt as anal about things?
you can't go with a publisher for a fangame, you self publish (just upload it to some random site)
in fact game publishers can also be annoying to deal with for similar reasons, always read your contract carefully to see if they can't just take your IP away from you for whatever reason they want, maybe the thing that is tying toby to them (and since UT/DR is one of the most popular games atm, you can bet materia will cling to those tracks for their dear life, so toby is stuck between a rock and a hard place)

>>714834727
Sounds good enough. Come up with your own leitmotifs and all that, you know!

>>714834643
Is this the new image_FRIEND?

>>714834727
Its mainly the name "Undertale" they seem to be anal about. Just call UT whatever instead of spelling it out or give it a name that doesn't contain Undertale like Underswap and you should be alright.

>Official artist posted this
What does /v/ make of it?

>>714836046
If that's clover in the back, he should be dancing

>>714836046
It means Moray is female

>>714836046
Just friends being pals

cringe game, only good thing is the squirrel

What even is video games anymore?
https://files.catbox.moe/mukhxs.mp4

>>714836635
was that guy making martlet for this game done?

>>714836968
Not a clue. There are Roba and Zartlet stages in the workshop. So there's some UTY footing there.

>>714836635
There should be a special place in hell for people who save pixel art in .jpg

>>714836046
FISH PUSSY

>>714837642
Its a steam screenshot. Chill kemonosabe.

>>714837642
seethe

>>714837642
>not saving them in .gif format
shiggy diggy

>>714836046
Oh yeah also
>The artist really wanted to make Axis EX
Would Axis be more popular with fans if he had this design?

>>714836635
>MUGEN is dead and has enough exploits that characters can function as actual computer viruses
>making a whole FG engine from scratch requires massive resources or Mike Z-level autistic savantism
>we will never get a UT fangame tag fighter, only platform fighter characters at most
Imagine how fucked up Starlo would be in a fighting game. Gun projectile, ranged lasso command grab, summon the Feisty Four to assist him in setplay

>>714838360
no because mettaton already filled the humanoid bot niche
anyway keep Axis' design the way it is, I like my bots more that way

>>714836635
I like how everyone else is a custom character but Berdly is just a palette for an existing character

>>714838739
You mean Martlet.

>>714838360
chujin would never make axis human
but he would make it a clone of himself

>>714838957
Oh yeah, it could be Martlet too. I just assumed Berdly because he was next to Noelle.

>>714831067
>i hate the furry donut steel oc ceroba so much its unreal
You think ceroba is a furry donut steel OC? Allow me to show you some real cringe

Behold, the least memorable character ever created

I dont see Guardener

>>714839259
He's memorable if you kill him, always look back with pride at killing a tumblrite homestuck OC, least memorable character goes to the entirety of starlos crew (minus the squirrel girl)

>>714839467
I did both Pacifist and Genocide and I unironically do not remember a single line of his dialogue. Undertale/Deltarune characters are special because they make you care about them and I simply did not care whatsoever about this faggy vampire OC.

>>714839212
is there more of his sister yet? that's the only thing I care about that comes from him

>>714838280
The best way to save them is as bitmap images.

>>714838360
That's not a robot, that's a guy wearing a steel t-shirt.

>>714839212
Pretty tame as far as nippon donut steel oc's go. I was actually able to read through half of the bullet point character descriptions before i had to disengage

>>714839732
No, btw Shu's sister looks like him wearing a wig

>>714839151
I feel like it would be an Android 20 situation, where said "Axis" is just his soul in a robot body.

>>714839212
I swear to god, how the fuck does this guy keep coming up in every thread? It's like a real life cognitohazard, exposure to it just makes people wanna spread it even more.

>>714840092
Was the line about defeating undyne several times what made you stop reading?

>>714840267
Who even is this guy? I can't see how anyone could ever care about him unless he was involved in making uty

>>714840092
That image is just the start. He's the second strongest monster in the underground (formerly, now that he's gone super saiyan he's even stronger than Asgore) and beats the hell out of Undyne every week. He had to go into hiding just so she would stop bothering him for rematches. There's even another image where she says that even with the help of the entire royal guard she still wouldn't be able to beat him. He's also dating roba.

>>714840323
>>714840382
Shu mind

>>714840323
i skipped over some of them and got bored at the chujin part lmao no way this kid wrote that his oc beat undyne i'm flabberghasted

>>714840356
He's only even remotely popular on the UTY subreddit, where people are so starved for new content that they'll resort to eating up stuff like this, even if it slowly poisons them.

>>714840545
>plebbit
And we care because? Seems like a them problem if you ask me

>>714840515
It only gets better from there. I don't have it, but there's an image where he actually goes super saiyan.

>>714840356
we took him over and turned it into
>he's a complete failure that edits himself into images playing him as the victor in ridiculous scenarios
>he somehow managed to fail the royal guard test

>>714840545
I refuse to believe a single human being unironically likes this donut steel furry SHITku clone oc for a fangame, are they actually retarded?

>>714840750
I love how he HAD to add the detail of the health bars, we needed to know that Ceroba barely did anything to Shu sama, and now Shu (forma orina) is the strongest monster in the underground

>>714839212
>>714840323
>>714840750
Kino.

>>714836046
>>714837795

>>714840730
Well it becomes our problem when it bleeds over into here and we're forced to look at it.

>>714827032 (OP)
It never was.
Fuck fangame garbage leeching off a creator's vision. You will never be toby fox, cunt.

>>714840267
The concept of him is just so funny that I've gotten attached. The /v/ parody version of him is unironically a good a Undertale character too. Monster Mr Satan would be right at home in the main games.

>>714840894
If, into that subreddit you go, only pain will you find.

>>714840952
they don't want to be though?
people make fangames out of the love of the franchise
if they wanted to be toby fox they would have made an original but clone game instead

>>714840108
What if it is Shu in a wig?

>>714840894
You can go there and check it yourself, they love him on reddit, despite him being an obvious powerwank OC that exists to ship with Ceroba, I could forgive him if he was a funny character at least but he has a very boring personality too

>>714840821
Don't forget
>He lives in his mom's basement
>His mom and his kid brother are the only people who buy his bullshit

>>714840356
Reddit's favorite UTY OC. The runner up is Clover's dad (who exists solely to bond with Roba over their shared history of child abuse) and Chujin's son (who is like Shu, but he fucks milf martlet)

>>714836635
Is that Noelle as a Roba recolour?
I love it

Why did they make Starlo a cuck?

>>714841272
gotta write what you know bro

>>714841272
So you could have a character to self insert into

>>714841050
Is this how Shu makes money? He puts on a wig and catfishes monsters into giving him donations or gifts?

>>714840937
I don't know how you can call this a problem. This is hilarious.

>>714841529
Okay, the posts characterizing him as monster Mr.Satan are alright, but the genuine donut steel shit I can only stomach so much of.

>>714841228
His mom doesn't buy into it, she just enables it because she's his mom. His brother is the only true believer in Nanto Shu Ken. (even Shu doesn't really believe it)

>>714841272
From shared experiences, there's a reason starlos cuckholdry is the only prominant thing you learn about his past life, didn't get the girl and too much of a nice guy to use real bullets geg

>>714840914
Here's the one where he's the emperor of the entire underground and even stronger than Asgore.

>>714841505
No, that was his girlfriend who goes to another school.

>>714841868
Don't know how this could make anyone angry. It's like those genuine Sonic Steelcold autism memes again, probably made by an actual kid too. I miss old /v/.

>>714841023
Nice cope. If people loved the franchise they'd go on to create their own works inspired by it, something new and original.

Instead they mire in the same stagnant pool like bloodsucking leeches and gnats. Its the same as the n+ different alternate universes. Where no one has the courage to tell their own story so they take some characters, change them to something vaguely familiar and hide behind the veneer of "its just fanfic lole"

>>714839732
No, the most interesting thing Shu has done these last few days was fighting a future version of the kid he is going to have with Ceroba, basically future trunks and of course Shu doesn't miss a chance to disrespect Undyne comparing her to an inexperienced kid

>>714842264
Making an original setting is hard, sometimes it is better to use the groundwork laid by someone else, even if just for practice.
t. guy trying to make something

>>714842205
I don't know if anyone is actually mad at it, I thought we were all just laughing at how silly it was. Also I've heard the creator is an adult, or at least old enough of a teenager to pass as one.

>>714830096
Being honest with you anon, it might be too late to enjoy Yellow. It came out specifically during the longest wait for Deltarune's chapters, when people were starving for anything Undertale or Deltarune related that wasn't just replaying the game again, so much so that they were willing to look past those types of flaws you're talking about just now (though admittedly half the reason these threads have stayed strong is how much people have hated the wasted potential of the entire game).

That being said, when you're done with Yellow I recommend playing Ribbit Mod. It's also very wordy, but it has a lot more rapid-fire gags that could catch you off guard. It also gets kinda surreal at the end, so if you get tired of the jokes there's at least something kind of esoteric to look forward to.

>>714842264
Toby himself started by making fangames and romhacks, would you call him a leech too?

>>714842264
You MIGHT have had a point if they shilled and made money off this fangame.

>>714827032 (OP)
It's worth checking out if you enjoyed Undertale/Deltarune and just want more in that vein
They do as good of a job as one could expect from a fangame of mimicking Toby's style, albeit they obviously come up short at some points and there are a few obvious OC Donut moments that go too far (Ceroba's entire character)

Starlo is the man though

>>714842289
Undyne really isn't that strong though, unless it's Genocide Undying version
normal playthrough she's a pushover

>>714827032 (OP)
you just know you're in for some absolute dogshit when a fox is in it. major red flag. kill all foxes.

>>714827151
I'm not going to play it, what happens on the pacifist ending?

>>714842264
What if I want to tell an original story in the same setting? Was the writer of The Odyssey a bloodsucking gnat because he read The Iliad and wanted to write a story about the adventures of Odysseus?

>>714842717
the main character basically gets to their ultimate goal and just gives up and decides to die and let asgore have their soul

>>714842532
Its not always about the money spiderman.

>>714842489
Sure, but I think leeching off of some multimillion corpo slop and making something new and interesting, and leeching off one guy's work are two different levels. Also toby went on to make unique things so, remains to be seen with these guys.

>>714842417
Never. If you make something truly worth making, make something on your own ideas. Im not saying be 100% never before seen, no one can do that and still be coherent, but simply dont make "Fanfic". Write a new story.

>>714842463
Nobody is actually mad at this, it's just too stupid to be taken seriously enough for someone to be angry at it, unless of course they're like sword and their simping for ceroba makes them hate the oc who had a kid with their waifu

well still better than those sans fuckers...

>>714842289
What is this guy's problem with Undyne? Why would he do and say all this shit about her in his writing? We know that's she a jobber now, but she wasn't when he wrote this stuff.

>>714842708
She is still the strongest (non boss monster) warrior in the underground, she might be a pushover in gameplay but among monsters she is a beast

Should I install Shades of Justice for genocide and neutral or nah?

>>714842808
some of the UTY devs are now making an original game and using what they learned from UTY, wouldn't that be a similar situation to toby then?

>>714842830
powerwank fantasy
basically spencer-sama but not /v/-autistic

>>714842841
Yeah I'll give you that much

>>714842808
>Also toby went on to make unique things so, remains to be seen with these guys.
One of the main artists of UTY is working on an original game now (the game has some references to Undertale Yellow too like an encounter with Mo)

>>714842905
Like I said if youd read
>ripping off a multimillion dollar corpo's game vs ripping off one guy's game

Is not quite the same path in life.

>>714842708
She's strong by monster standards, monsters are absolute jobbers, but among them she's the strongest (not counting Asgore)

>>714842765
didnt Homer write both of them?

>>714841272
Because the squirrel is underage-coded so we can't have Starlo banging the nuts out of that little fuck

>>714843130
He wrote the texts, but the stories predate him. Greek mythology was basically a massive group writing project spanning thousands of years.

>>714843137
He could bang Moray's they/themussy

>>714843101
>monsters are absolute jobbers
except Gerson

>>714839151
This would be funny, Chujin manages to Dr. Gero himself into a robot, but he gets to install a 1:1 replica of his dick would say that he'd actually put his REAL dick in the robot so it can pump Ceroba to fill that house with kids, but i find the thought horrifying, besides the dick would turn to dust the second it's off. It would be a legitimately funny way to torment Ceroba.

>>714842808
>Never. If you make something truly worth making, make something on your own ideas. Im not saying be 100% never before seen, no one can do that and still be coherent, but simply dont make "Fanfic". Write a new story.
Why? Why is writing fan fiction so terrible? Why is writing wholly original stories necessary?

>>714843292
He'd still job to (you) and he knows it, that's why he he stayed in his shop when (you) showed up.

>>714842780
Thanks, that makes me feel more justified than i thought i was going to be.

>NOOOOOOOOO WE ONLY KILLED FIVE OF Y-

>>714843302
Ceroba, get off /v/

>>714843508
its also that several characters you go through the game become lobotomized at the last second to allow it to happen

>>714843508
Genocide is the canon route IMO simply because it's the only one that makes sense
>Yellow didn't go in there with a notebook, or a tutu, he went in there with a GUN
My headcanon for Yellow is basically as far as I can get in Genocide until I'm killed. Then they obviously throw my gun and hat in the trash, where it's found ages later by bratti and catti

I got a boner watching Martlet slowly realize that the human she's fighting is a genocidal monster

>>714843508
There is an alternate pacifist ending where you just kill the final boss after sparing everybody else up to that point, then you go to an unwinnable fight against Asgore

>>714843526
No, it WOULD be a real way to torment Ceroba, just think about it, she stands alone, her family is a robot replica of her husband and her daughter is an amalgamate dildo (that somehow, makes Ceroba actually sleeps comfortably every night in spite of the gargantuan depression she shoulders) and every day she just has to think that "oh this is fine" while having breakfast as Robojin drinks battery acid out of that japanese tea cup while Kanako slowly grabs her cup and sloooooooooowly carries it up to her mouth (insert elevator music while you're at it) and any time Ceroba would be on the verge of breaking down, they just coddle her.

>>714843351
Nothing terrible with writing fanfiction. Everyone enjoys eating a back of unhealthy processed chips now and then. The problem is when morons start equating chips with an actual decent well crafted meal made by an actual chef.

>>714843663
yellow being a genocider also lends legitimacy to the way the monsters react to you in Undertale, they're certainly not happy to see you and they're basically all supportive of Asgore taking the final soul, even if it means killing a kid
cause that last kid was a monster

>>714844007
some fanworks can be better than original stuff though (yellow isn't one of them however)
they are rare though

>>714844004
Ceroba, please, this isn't healthy.

>>714843508
>>714842780
Pacifist is bittersweet, It makes more sense when you realize Clover wanted to sacrifice himself to give monsters he grew to hold compassion for hope, as indicated by the flashbacks he has when making his decision.

The goodbye hug was Kino but I do agree it's something he should have snuck off on his own to do instead of being escorted by the two (three after sparing Ceroba) friends who spent the latter half of the game trying to keep him hidden. Looking back it makes it seem like his friends are just using him in the most selfish way imaginable, literally escorting him to his death, hardly any questions asked. If that one scene was changed it would have made so much more sense.

>>714844007
>food analogy

>>714844181
If anything Ceroba would rather be dead, she'd be reunited with her family.

>>714840972
>>714840750
>>714840382
SHU GODS...

>>714844084
Yeah, Im honestly in agreement with that. They're definitely extremely rare tho.

>>714844007
Just because something isn't a master work doesn't mean making it isn't worth while. Not everything needs to be some grandiose genre inventing master piece. Sometimes a game is just fun and that's enough.

>>714844182
The only problem is that sacrifice is literally one step closer to Clover's entire race getting obliterated
It FEELS emotional on paper, but logically it makes zero sense that Clover would willingly assist his species' genocide.

>>714844276
Seriously though, I fail to see the terrible part of that. I guess Kanako being a spoon would suck, but Chujin wouldn't mind being a robot, and Ceroba would just be happy to have her life back.

>>714844536
especially considering that he went in there with the wanted poster, specifically to remind himself of his purpose of JUSTICE

>>714844592
spoonnako is still dumb, I'd rather she die than the devs do that just because they wanted to tie in even more with base UT
in fact UTY could have been its entire original thing with just some basic changes if they got rid of alphys and asgore and toriel

>>714827151
>first reply is immediately saying "lol don't play the pacifist route"
not even trying to be retarded, but does any fan of yellow actually like that ending? i first assumed that couldn't be the case but the more time goes on the more i see people who believe that it's horrible and the devs were retarded for doing it

>>714844284
So what would happen if Shu were in Deltarune when the Roaring Knight appeared?

>>714844883
He'd win without getting hit once and say something edgy like "I thought I'd finally found a strong opponent....but you are nothing..."
then the entire Deltarune cast would beg him to teach them how to be strong, but he would say NO, because he must return to his meditation....to be the strongest...
SO COOL RIGHT

>>714844845
I agree, should've just had Kanako be in Chujin's lab or in some hospital somewhere. The true lab raises too many questions that the devs had no intention of answering.

That aside, it wouldn't have killed them to at least make a new design for amalgam Kanako.

>>714844991
How it would actually go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs6JAD_flJw

>>714844880
I don't think he's in this thread right now, but UTY pacifist's strongest (and only) defender likes to frequent these threads. He usually causes the thread to get +300 posts of back and forth arguing where nothing is ever accomplished aside from making all parties involved upset.

>>714844880
Well it's better than the flowey ending where he just resets everything, and less people die in pacifist than in genocide and both endings pretty much end in the same thing anyway. The worst thing about pacifist is that dumb bird bitch ditching the royal guard because she felt bad about how she got a promotion, like ok bitch I just killed myself for your promotion but you do you I guess, cerobas actions aren't as bad when you take into account she is basically an extremely cock starved schizophrenic who doesn't have a shred of continuity in her reasons for doing anything, but martlet literally got handed a golden platter and threw it away, god what a retarded fuckunh chicken.

>>714844007
I strongly disagree with this, something like AM2R holds up completely even without the slack one might give a work for being fanmade. If not for 1-2 weird choices (a couple boss fights feel very fanfiction-y in a way I can't describe in just a few words) you wouldn't be able to tell it's not official, and there's a strong argument it might be better than the official Metroid 2 remake, though that's subjective.

If something is good, it's good, and where it comes from doesn't matter except in the context of defining canon for future works. UTY isn't an all-time classic, it's got major writing and pacing flaws, but those criticisms are separate from it being fanfiction.

>>714846406
>If not for 1-2 weird choices (a couple boss fights feel very fanfiction-y in a way I can't describe in just a few words)
Let me guess, the tester and genesis?

>>714845384
You rang?

>>714838438
Oddly enough there is a character that has a pretty similar moveset to the one you have in mind for Starlo.
It's Texas from Crushing Force

>>714847017
I don't think having that argument again would benefit anyone, so I'm not going to.

>>714847873
Hey, in my own defense, I've been in this thread pretty much since it started and I haven't been arguing with anyone.

To me, UTY sucks because i cannot jerk off to Ceroba, i do not like widows, especially those who are still mourning their husband as if their death happened an hour ago. I don't see Ceroba in that way and i hate it, she's too sexy.

>>714848081
Eh, she seems to get over it in the true pacifist epilogue. Just imagine that every sexy image of her you see takes place after that, problem solved.

>>714831440
I finally beat her after like 4 hours.
I didn't know that the golden bandana existed, and by the time I did it was too late. I thought about starting over to get it but ended up deciding to tough it out instead.

Is there a UTY community that isn't connected to reddit?

>>714848081
And that's a good thing!

>just found out there's an Easy Mode

>>714848317
it just gives you more defense at the start of the game to make the dark ruins less painful

>>714847910
Well lets keep it that. At least about tired subjects we have said everything there is to say on.

>>714848279
There's this one.

>>714848384
Yeah, I don't actually like arguing back and forth about all that stuff either. You'll notice that I usually only get into all that stuff when someone else starts going off about it first, I don't care enough to be the instigator.

>>714844880
>not even trying to be retarded, but does any fan of yellow actually like that ending?
I teared up when clover dropped immediately after ceroba left and liked it alot, but these threads made me realize im the minority here

>>714848279
/vrpg/

>>714848183
>Eh, she seems to get over it in the true pacifist epilogue
I'd argue she just got better at hiding it, but i know 100% that she will moan Chujin's name and that will just ruin the entire mood forever. Mind you, it would take a good dicking to make her loose cunt grip as good as it used to but again, she is a ticking time bomb, a short fuse bomb if you will, and it is pretty damn easy to make her a fucking wreck of a woman. Ceroba is just for the friendzone at that point, anything further will pour a droplet of nostalgia in her brain and said droplet will turn ripples of menalcholy into a cascading tsunami of sorrow.

You know, I'm kinda surprised no one's tried to make a rewrite mod or something for UTY, given how many people seem to be in agreement that the game has a lot of writing problems, and even over what those problems are exactly.
I know shades of justice modifies a few things in the story here and there, but still.

>>714844883
The roaring knight already jobbed to base chapter 3 susie

The real Shu wank would be the prophecy rewriting itself to place his silhouette in itself, just from him existing

>>714848367
hey man, 3 points of free extra defense is nothing to sneeze at
it gives the Hats DEF values apparently, so it stacks with armor

>>714848543
>but i know 100% that she will moan Chujin's name and that will just ruin the entire mood forever.
Ah, been reading that staroba divorce au on r/undertaleyellow have we?

>>714840821
>>he somehow managed to fail the royal guard test
this is the funniest shit ive ever seen from a UT/UTY thread holy fuck

>>714848542
I never see uty thrads there, just ut/dr. Looking for something specifically about uty

>>714848530
the thought of Clover giving monsterkind a chance is not bad in theory, its just the way it was written in yellow was really
the most obvious one was how Martlet isn't heavily against the idea and folds immediately just because Ceroba said so

>>714848543
Unironically, I think I could fix her. All I have to do is perform improvised unethical fucked up experiments on Kanako to reverse her falling down and then Ceroba will be head over heels, easy.

>>714848740
we've got a fangame thread.

>>714848740
the ut/dr fangames thread doubles as a UTY thread. They started out as UTY exclusive, but everyone agreed for the sake of thread survival to allow all fangame discussion. It's still predominantly Yellow, you're just going to find some devs sharing progress now and then.

>>714848740
There's the UT/DR fangame thread, which is basically UTY and the other fangames (named in order of importance)

>>714848593
There were a couple and they both died. Someone even tried to make a sequel game that fixes the ending and it died too.

>>714848639
Now I'm imagining Shu spray painting himself on the prophecy windows.

>>714848915
A fan-sequel? This is the first I've heard of this, what was it called?

>>714848593
nobody cares enough about a fangame to fix anything, that and 90% of the shitty story stems from ceroba because the writer wanted to include his fox girl oc in as much of the story as possible without caring about how that would impact the stories quailty, so any mod to "fix the story" would literally just be changing cerobas dialogue so she doesn't seem like a careless psychopath

>>714848713
There was a whole greentext about it.

We need Undertale Cyan
the only winning move is not to move

>>714849098
Wait, I thought Ceroba was designed by Televiq or whoever, wasn't the writer MasterSwordRemix?

>>714848593
>>714848915
shades of justice is the only one still trying that thats still active in some way, they recently showed progress on adding multiple save files

>>714848671
More like i have close experience with how much some divorced/widows still talk a lot about their exes that it's a turn off, a massive turn off. Ceroba perfectly falls into the type of woman that you could show her a rock that has holes that look like the number 8 and Ceroba would just go out of pocket and drop off information like Chujin making her climax 8 times just by using his pinky.

>>714848776
The fact you even thought of that shows that you're exactly her type.

>>714849190
designed yes, but sword came up with her
remember original roba was going to be a human

>>714849098
Eh, honestly I'd say the only real changes that would be needed to fix the story would just be making it so that Ceroba didn't inject Kanako herself (just make it so that Ceroba refused to inject her with the serum at first but then Kanako went and used it behind her back or something while trying to show Ceroba that she can be helpful, whatever works), and making it so that the syringe Martlet uses in the genocide route is some prototype variant of Chujin's serum, like he gave it to her as a last resort option back when he was alive.

>>714849021
I don't think it ever got a name. It was sort of an End Of Evangelion deal, where it remade and greatly extended the ending of UTY into a new game. From how the dev described it, it was pretty weird. It was a Doom style 3d with 2d sprites game that played like house of the dead. There were a bunch of super dangerous from the robots that escaped from the secret research lockup under the core and Kanako and Ceroba were the main antagonists.

>>714849191
there's also flawed vengeance mod
haven't tried it out but they showed a demo for a starlo fight

>>714849310
>remember original roba was going to be a human
Okay, I have never heard of that before, where's that come from?

UTY's pacifist ending could be fixed if Undyne or someone from the royal guard pulled up to finally detain Clover, it would be less retarded than Ceroba somehow conviniently having a soul container.

>>714849348
>>714849021
ah you're talking about godotanon's game
he wanted to redo the pacifist ending (after the axis fight when you leave the steamworks) and head to the true lab to save kanako (who is being kept in a different floor from the one you go in UT)
he kinda disappeared for a bit but returned for one day when DRY1 dropped the demo, but then vanished again

>>714849374
the artbook, will post some pics of it

>>714849161
The whole game is a fnaf clone but with Undertale OCs instead of robots.

>>714849193
If I lived in the underground but retained all metaknowledge I have of UT's universe, I bet I could make a decent working theory on how to save Kanako, and potentially save the various amalgamates too. In Kanako's case specifically, it might literally be as easy as figuring out how to isolate and extract integrity from her soul, and given that determination can be extracted from monsters, I don't think that's too unreasonable of an idea.
I am willing to make unthinkable breakthroughs in magic soul science just to get a chance at Ceroba, you have no idea.

>>714849470
>>714849374

Okay, I've had enough with Cerojin wanking around /v/, and around the fanbase in general.
It's been around since the game released, and I tolerated it up to a certain point. But it seems lately that some are seriously pushing this idea that Ceroba should constantly be thinking about Chujin, that she shouldn't move on because she's "loyal".
And honestly? I don't just dislike Cerojin. I hate Cerojin. It's forced as fuck, and it's practically like an arranged marriage to me.
Cerojin is like the epitome of all the plot devices the game throws at you for you to care about. At its center, Cerojin *has* to exist so that the plot *has* to be tragic.
And I'm fucking done with it, because this shit has to end. Chujin is a racist manipulator, and while this would be fun to poke at, the game wants you to take this seriously, to praise him while the whole cast glazes him for his actions.
Ceroba is even less of a character; She's more like a series of plot threads strung together to resemble something coherent. Difference is, I see a future for her if the fanbase is willing to let her be something more.
For a while, I thought /v/ would come around to Staroba once they realized Cerojin was shit. But over the years, fans were always hesitant to drastically change her in any way, and they simply doubled down on her flaws.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, it's not up to the devs to fix Ceroba anymore. It's up to the fans now to take her character in a newer and better direction.
(Not to say Staroba needs to be the endgame. Just that fans can choose to write her better than as "Chujin's wife".)

>>714849529
Huh, weird. I assume this was just a strange one-off drawing, since that bit of text down there says "that wasn't part of the plan".

>>714849562
be honest anon, did you steal this from reddit?

>>714849323
Maybe also throw in a post credits scene that shows all the characters after the UT true pacifist ending. Failing that, just one of Ceroba getting a call from Alphys telling her to come get Kanako would suffice. Something to set the player's mind at ease about that so it won't keep eating away at them after the game is over..

>>714849503
fund it

>>714849631
since there is this part
>Chujin is a racist manipulator
there is a good chunk it is

>>714849161
there are like 4 or so cyan takes that I am aware of at the moment
all of them have the ribbon girl stuck in the ruins
none of them are close to completion
only about 1 or 2 post semi consistent updates

>>714849664
Eh, that feels a little superfluous to me, I honestly think even having that little reference to the photoshop Flowey fight after the true pacifist ending is a bit much.
Maybe just have the rewrite mod tell people to go play red and yellow if they really want some of that.

>>714849741
Should be one for every heart color, honestly
why not

>>714849771
there are multiple fangames for the other souls in progress anon
all of them are still on early stages and will likely die soon if they aren't dead already
just keep in mind any fangame with flowey is already doomed from the start

>>714849509
I had some theories about how to fix the amalgamates, or at least mitigate their issues. One would be to just never let them mix together. Half of their problems come from that. My first thought is to put them all in hermetically sealed suits, but failing that just keeping them quarantined away from each other should work. After that, maybe try the DT extractor and see if that can take the DT back out. If that seems too dangerous, maybe try feeding them human food so their bodies can gain more solid matter in hopes of stabilizing them.

>>714849816
It's unfortunate that there's not enough talent out there willing to do it, I guess

>>714849562
Starlo...

>>714849816
Any fangame without flowey has no way of explaining how the player character can save, blame toby for creating a character that is forced to be shoehorned into every fangame

>>714849816
I've always been curious what the actual timescale is between the fallen humans
Seems like monsters don't really have a solid sense of time, and also that it's a LONG time between humans though
hundreds of years?
thousands?

>>714850084
you don't need to, the humans can just save with their own determination
the thing is all humans gave up because they couldn't beat asgore, and thus lost access to their save files
its like hollowing in dark souls

>>714849682
How would this UT fnaf clone work anyways? Why are you sitting still? Where? Why is everyone constantly coming to kill you?

>>714850084
Everyone already understands that save points are placed there by Flowey to help you
He can just stay hidden and not directly show himself

A bigger problem is that we know how all the different Souls' stories ended. They lost. So you have to try to write around that in a way that isn't as lame as Yellow's pacifist end

>>714850084
>no way of explaining how the player character can save
So don't explain it. Toby doesn't explain every facet of Undertale's gameplay mechanics. Nobody questions why you can't see the monsters who get you during random encounters until after you beat the boss.

>>714850140
the previous human was a brutal genocider, and you fell in almost right afterwards, so they're on high alert and patrolling for humans
you have to sneak around and hide if they're nearby or something

I dunno I'm not really putting much serious thought into it, I think I'm just pitching metal gear solid right now actually

>>714849951
Well obviously Alphys shouldn't have let the amalgamates merge in the first place. Now I can't necessarily blame her for not knowing that all that was going to happen, since no one really seemed to know that could happen at all, but I can blame her for not properly containing the various subjects while they were still just bodies/recovering, in case of potential contamination or anything like that. Plus, she should've waited at least like a month before telling the families of all the subjects that they were alive, she really jumped the gun on that one.
And seriously, why the fuck does the true lab not have any proper containment cells or individually separated rooms? Thank god the amalgamates don't try to *actively* assimilate people, or they would've broken containment immediately and started ravaging the underground, Flood style.

>>714849751
>red and yellow
Eww, no

I think it'd just be a nice thing to have since we're already doing the "fix the ending" bit. It wouldn't take much at all to include that like the pie scene was in Undertale. Just something to clearly spell out the resolution to her character arc so people aren't left to bicker back and forth over it for years. It doesn't take much effort and is small enough that it shouldn't really detract from anything.

>>714850145
the issue is flowey cannot exist before alphys is the scientist, which happens very late in the timeline, yellow is already pushing it with flowey being in at all
he shouldn't exist in any fangame earlier than yellow (and arguably not even there)

Could just turn Undertale into a streamerbait coop fangame where you play as the 5 kids that preceeded Clover and it's like a silly survival game where you enter with the other 4 midwits on your team and you get jumpscared by random shit. Hell you could have UTY's mention of the snowdin battle to be you and/or your friends geared up and fighting shit racking up Wanted stars GTA style until you get dropkicked by the Royal Guard's finest, or if you genocide hard enough and go beyond 6 stars, it drops PRIME Gerson on your ass.

>>714850325
but these are just games, and he can fuck with and manipulate save files
he can exist in the program if he's written to be in it

>>714850084
The human simply baing able to save because they are determined is way less egregious as Flowey playing nice amd saving for us instead of not instantly murdering the human for their soul.

>>714850408
that would be bad writing though and one of the biggest gripes people have with yellow
also flowey cannot go back further than when he first woke up since that was his first save

>>714849631
Do I need a follow-up post to clarify? From the looks of it, I probably do.
When I say "Cerojin", I meant less about the ship and more about the writing, if that makes sense.
>>714849701
I found the "Ningen" joke funny, but it was just that, a joke. I need the game to stop treating Chujin like some sort of hero, because that's essentially how the cast sees him.
>>714848279
>>714848543
>>714828010
Posts like these motivated me to write a response of sorts.
Also, alot of these kinds of posts have been popping up lately. They all revolve around the idea of Ceroba not moving on/wanting Chujin sexually. I don't remember them showing up often or at all in early threads.
Is it one anon posting these? Or am I going crazy?

>>714850287
Eh, agree to disagree I guess. I just feel like including something that far after the ending actually takes place would be like including a scene of the hillside memorial from the ending of Halo 3 somewhere at the end of Halo: Reach, it just feels like it clashes with the whole vibe of the ending at that point.
Part of the whole point of UTY's ending is that you don't get too see too much of what actually happens to each of the characters after Clover dies, because unlike Deltarune and base UT, there really isn't much of a separation between Clover and the player, so when they stop being able to see things, you stop being able to see things. Mostly. Yeah, I know the whole epilogue largely flies in the face of that idea, but it's mostly adhered to.

>>714850084
Its implied in the Asgore fight that Asgore has dealt with save/load powers before. In all likelihood the previous humans could save too and they just gave up after failing enough times.

>>714850145
>A bigger problem is that we know how all the different Souls' stories ended. They lost. So you have to try to write around that in a way that isn't as lame as Yellow's pacifist end
Just have that be the ending where you give up and close the game. That's what Undertale implies happens when you give up, so it'd make sense that its how the previous humans' journeys would have worked.

>>714850563
>sees a loyal widow that doesnt want to be with anyone other than her late husband
>"erm, thats problematic. she needs to be a whore like toriel!"
yeah bud you need to go back.

Tried this and I just couldn't connect to a single character, none of them were endearing to at least get the point across like in Undertale that you might regret killing them.
Hell the character I disliked the most was Martinet and she's basically jerked off by the game more than any other character I've ever seen in fiction.
It sucks because I went in with a lot of hope that I could hold this game over until Chapter 5 of Deltarune comes out, but I just couldn't

>>714850613
>That's what Undertale implies happens when you give up
Nah, I think UT largely implies that your soul really does just break and become irretrievable when you die. After all, the whole soul shattering thing is explicitly referenced in-game during Asriel's boss fight, and we soul in-game instances of that happening with both Toriel and Asgore's souls, so it's clearly a real in-universe thing as opposed to just being done for show.
Now, whether this is simply the result of what happens when a soul is hit with too much magic damage, or if this is some weird special property of the red soul in particular, who's to say.

>>714850169
>Nobody questions why you can't see the monsters who get you during random encounters until after you beat the boss.
I've been thinking about this for my fangame and I had an idea for a gag involving it. Basically the monsters are all hiding waiting to pop out at you when you walk by, but they have no way of knowing when or if you're going to come by, nor any purpose made hiding spots, so they're just forced to crouch behind bushes, sit inside of dumpsters, and lay down under floor tile color sheets while they wait for you, and this can go on for hours.

>>714850563
In my defense, my Ceroba being a wreck of a woman that can't move on posts are just me projecting bad mojo i've had with hearing divorced folks (widows too) just constantly bring up their exes and Ceroba's character PERFECTLY fits that sort of criteria that even in the moment she will never ever think of Chujin, she is still a short fuse bomb that can be set off just with few specific words.
It's not walking on eggshells, but it's more like having a dog that is cool with you until you do one tiny thing you don't expect a dog to be mad about and you're in trouble for it.

>>714850818
>Martinet

>>714850818
didn't even like Starlo?

>>714850204
Maybe you're getting chased by a hostile monster and you hide inside an abandoned buidling, but it turns out its actually a store and its just about to open. So now you have to pretend to be the monster wagie working at the store and fulfilling menial tasks while keeping your impromptu disguise maintained.

>>714850895
Starlo is the one I tolerated the most, bordering more on the positive side.
But this man can't carry the entire game on his back when you have to deal with the dumb blue bird and the annoying fox

>>714850241
I don't think the amalgams can assimilate normal people. I think they can only merge with other DT melted monsters.

I'm probably being a bit whiny but they did not test this thing for people with arthritis huh?
The auto fire means nothing if I have to repeatedly hold the button for the charge shots which are essentially the only way to win.
I ended up having to turn on easy mode because if I were to try that fight more than a few times I'd cause serious pain for myself

>>714850893
Yeah I had to look it up, I hated her character so much I didn't even register her name correctly.
Worst thing of all is that killing her in Genocide isn't even satisfying

>>714850612
The reason I feel its necessary is because Undertale doesn't follow up on it.

>>714850830
I think its fine if UT fangames take some stuff from DR, overworld enemies being one of them
But your idea can be funny if done well

>>714851025
you don't need charge shots to win the fight, where the hell did you get this idea from?
the idea with using auto fire is for you to just focus on the dodging part of the fight and nothing else

>>714850758
If your late husband was someone who brutally mauled a child and then experimented (tortured) their soul for years while hiding this from you and everyone else, while his dying wish was for you to continue the same practice that ultimately killed him, maybe you should move on.
Probably best to rethink your actions while you're at it.

>>714851007
Maybe, but is that a chance you're willing to take?
The amalgamates even seem to stop merging with each other past a certain point, so I hypothesize that maybe their assimilative property vanishes after a while as their DT levels even out, but still.
In some fucked up alternate-timeline out there, Alphys just looks like Captain Keyes by the time you get to the true lab.

>>714851194
Well, all the amalgamates are said to have been sent home to their families once everything is said and done, so I imagine that would include Kanako, but meh.

>>714851297
>brutally mauled a child
except that child almost killed his daughter, you are forgetting that human was pretty fuck up

>>714850563
I joke about her not moving on because of obsession, but I unironically think her refusing to love after Chujin is the single best character trait and is a very honorable thing to do. Moving on is something you do because you have to, not because its a good thing.

Quite frankly I'm just so tired of moving on in the series, especially in relation to marriages, that I'm glad Ceroba hasn't moved on. Its a breath of fresh air to finally have someone who wouldn't jump on Sans's boner the instant she doesn't have anything stopping her while her previous husband either cries himself to sleep or rolls in his grave.

>>714851297
>If your late husband was someone who brutally mauled a child
You wouldn't put down a young pitbull if it almost killed your kid?

>>714850829
Flowey directly says that he regains control whenever you give up. I think the soul breaking is specifically part of loading a save. Your soul shatters and that forces the timeline to reset.

>>714851195
I was gonna do that anyways. Actually because of the specifics of my fangame, all of the encounters have to have a lot of thought put into them for why they occur, why each specific enemy is attacking you. So having them be present in the overworld isn't much extra work.

>>714851605
Okay, I might be misremembering here, since it's been a while since I played UT, but where is this stated? I wanna see it, the in-game source.

>>714850893
Mama mia

>>714851304
I think it had to do with the amount of physical matter in their bodies. Once they merged into a sufficiently large mass, their bodies were big enough to handle that amount of determination and became more stable.

>>714851297
He did it for the sake of his family and his country. Unironically the only thing Chujin did wrong was test on himself, and thats because it was stupid, not immoral.
>but integrity is a child
a mass murdering child who already made an attempt on Kanako's life. If you wouldn't kill to protect your daughter then you're a bad father.

>>714851363
>but meh
That's my point. Its not really a conclusion. You're just left to retroactively place her there yourself, despite never seeing her or hearing her mentioned. Even if she probably is there, its not satisfying at all.

>>714851773
LONG

>>714827032 (OP)
It does enough things well that it's worth experiencing if you enjoyed Undertale and/or Deltarune

It's not a long game, it's worth playing and making up your own mind if you like it or not.

>>714851720
The speech Flowey gives you after you finish the ruins in pacifist (specifically if you didn't kill Toriel). He says that he's the prince of this world's future because he'll regain control of the timeline as soon as you give up.

>>714851454
>>714851554
>>714851984
I think everyone needs to just take a step back and stop trying to kill children... Children included.
Also, it's unusual that /v/ is saying this on a series that prides itself as the game where you SHOULD spare everyone.
It's just uncharacteristic for an Undertale game to view revenge murder as the best option. Hell, we don't even know why integrity killed those monsters.
For all we know, it might've not been a genocide (in a predetermined sense), but integrity using self-defense from their pov. Sicing a murder drone on them would only reinforce that idea.

>>714852217
Ah, that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's just saying that to fuck with you, not as an actual indicator of what happens whenever you leave the game after a game over.
I mean, we see what happens when Flowey has control of things, and we know what he tends to do when he has control of the timeline according to him, so why don't we come back to the underground completely trashed whenever we restart the game after dying previously?
I mean, we know for a fact that Flowey is very frequently full of shit, like how he supposedly can't feel any kind of emotion, then completely breaks down towards the end of the genocide route, so I don't think it's a stretch to say that he's just taunting you by saying that he'll retake control.

>>714852226
>I think everyone needs to just take a step back and stop trying to kill children
fuck them kids
>Also, it's unusual that /v/ is saying this on a series that prides itself as the game where you SHOULD spare everyone.
Yeah, (you), the extra dimensional time deity who can save and load. Chujin doesn't have that luxury. If Kanako dies she's just dead, the end. He can't afford to be a pacifist.
>For all we know, it might've not been a genocide (in a predetermined sense), but integrity using self-defense from their pov
It doesn't matter why she's doing it, just that she IS doing it. She can be completely justified in her actions. She still needs to die if the monsters want to live.

>>714852420
If you come back to the game then you load your save, not his. So you only see the underground how you left it. Its impossible for you to exist in a timeline controlled by Flowey until he gets more determination than you and prevents you from loading

Also Flowey specifically can't feel empathy or love. He's incapable of caring about or connecting with any other person. Fear is a completely separate emotion, and it can exist independent of any other person.

>>714851297
>>714852226
if that child is stronger than the entirety of your race as a whole, is currently on a murdering streak, has made an attempt on your own kid's life, and you have something that can even the odds then it is your moral obligation to try and murder the child

>>714852226
>stop trying to kill children.
I'd agree too, but this is the world of undertale
were even a mere 5 year old can mass wipe the monster race if they are determine enough to do so
Chujin is not gonna gamble like Martlet and hope the child dindu nuffin wrong

>>714853107
how was there even a "war" to begin with when a single adult human, even if they had brittle bone disease and were dying of cancer, could probably kick the shit out of the entire monster race with a broomstick?

>>714852520
I mean, you could have an interesting discussion about how Undertale's moral highroading falls flat at logical conclusions. At the end of the day, the barrier still HAS to have the power of 7 human souls; it's not like UT sidesteps its way around that. Blood HAD to be spilled for the freedom of monsters.
The ending of Undertale is kind of an asspull, if you actually think about it. Frisk gets to be a pacifist and not die out of convenience. If they fell a bit earlier, they'd be some souls short of freedom, so someone still has to go.
You want to know what I really think? I think Toby doesn't give a fuck about his setting. It's all like a sandbox to him, and most of the characters are like actors, who are there to serve a role.
It's not like Toby doesn't care about his characters, because it's clear to me he does. But I would say Toby cares more about their personalities, while their roles are there to fulfill some sort of meta-roadblock to (you).
The story falls apart, because it doesn't really matter. Why would it? The game itself is what matters, and it's the meta-statement of (you) and your actions Toby wants to get across.
The whole war between humans and monsters is all background noise, just window dressing by comparison.

>>714853270
determination buddy, that's all it takes
something of which monsters lack

>>714853270
Even the monsters themselves said it could hardly be called a war.

>>714853520
Sure, but the humans still had to "push them back" and some of them actually fought humans and survived, well, at least Gerson did
That seems a little ridiculous given what a single lost child with a stick can do

>>714853446
Toby's not unique in that regard. Most writers do that, even the most skilled. World building in the grand scheme of things isn't very important. Sure its nice to have, but the story can get by just fine without it. So if you have some other element that needs to be put ahead at the expense of world building, then its obvious which one to choose.

That said, the fun of fan projects is working with those irrelevant background details to invent new characters and a new meta narrative to play with.

>>714853667
Keep in mind that single lost child has (you) helping him. Without that he might not be nearly as good at dodging or determined to continue. Monsters may also have been tougher in the past.

>>714853781
I like the idea that some of the humans were obviously not full-pacifists and over time they thinned out the "stronger" monsters so by the time of UT we're left with really the dregs, the weakest, a crumbling society
Undyne is the best they have and she's really not much, aside from Asgore himself

>>714853845
I think there probably used to be a lot more monsters, they had a lot more great warriors, and there was an actual population of boss monsters as opposed to a single middle aged couple. Then in addition to their best and brightest dying in the war, they spent thousands of years atrophying underground.

>>714853845
Monsters are as strong as their mentality, their loss at the war completly destroyed their mindset about how strong their are compared to humans to the point most if not all monters lost their "fighting spirit", I image in the past monsters like Undyne were much more common

>>714854102
>>714854381
Yeah both of these make sense
Plus Humans were probably reluctant to actually kill the monsters, knowing full well that they were hardly a threat, and most of them are kind of...likeable?

it was only the fear that one of them might, one day, take a human soul after death and become something unstoppable
It was probably less of a war and more of a tragic necessary exile
Afterall, they clearly COULD have just killed all the monsters, but instead chose to seal them away so they could still keep living - just separately from humans

>>714854381
>Monsters are as strong as their mentality
I've always liked this detail because, intentionally or not, it's similar to the series Slayers, where a fantasy race of Monsters also have this trait
They don't technically exist in reality, but the more powerful they are, the more perfectly they can "project" themselves into physicality
And this cuts the other way too, because how "strong" they are is also directly related to their mindstate, since they're Astral Plane beings
So if a Monster in that setting starts to think and internalize the thought
>I am weak...
They will actually become drastically weaker

Few settings and stories make good use of that kind of thing

>>714853708
The main problem I'm seeing here is with Undertale Yellow. It tries applying logic to a setting where logic doesn't apply.
Undertale works because Toby is bending the setting to his will. The story is a means to an end, not an ends to a mean. It's all meta-commentary.
Yellow now has to work around that and actually try and make sense of Toby's world. I find it too serious at times, too un-meta.
That could be down to weaker writing. But Yellow is going to have a harder time worldbuilding when Undertale was a world designed as one big RPG trope and as the inverse of Deltarune

>>714827032 (OP)
Just finished my playthrough of it. I thought it was pretty neat, nice fangame, I like the different battle mechanics. Wouldn't say it reaches some of the highs like Undertale did but I also played that for the first time pretty recently too. Got the ending were I killed Ceroba and died to Asgore. Are the other endings good, I assume there's two others like Undertale.

>>714855050
I personally like the True Pacifist ending to UTY, though that is apparently a minority opinion here.

UTY should've ended with Clover heading to Asgore even with everyone alive, losing their soul to Asgore, and then heading out of the castle and limping towards Ceroba, Starlo, and Martlet like Spike Spiegel before dying.

>>714855050
Yeah, there's a Neutral and a Genocide, as well as Clover willingly sacrificing himself if Ceroba's spared due to having a full perspective on the kind of justice monsters need alongside the justice for the missing kids.
Neutral happens if you kill anyone at any point, meaning Ceroba can't use Clover for her plans due to him being tainted, so instead once you reach the resort, Martlet convinces him to just live with her instead of following through on his mission. Flowey, however, isn't a fan of that, and tries to take Clover's soul in what's one of the most impressive sequences in any fangame.
Genocide's basically what you'd expect, route exclusive-bosses with that fangame difficulty and all.

>>714855439
>Asgore seeing a battered, bleeding, literally soulless child limp out of his castle just so he can say goodbye to his monster friends

>>714854665
I was about to make a reply saying "imagine how powerful a monster that really and truly believed he was strong would be" but then I remembered that basically all the strongest monsters in the game are just that. Papyrus is cool dude number 1 in his mind, and he's really strong. Undyne is this bombastic badass who refuses to give in to anything and she's the strongest common monster in the undeground. Mettaton has such an inflated opinion of himself that he plasters his face on everything and he's arguably tougher than Undyne. Going to Deltarune, Berdly has the highest stats of any lightner in the game and he's got an ego a mile wide.

>>714855050
There's three actually, but the true pacifist ending is the worst ending, the other three (counting the one you just got) are good though.

>>714855050
The neutral ending doesn't have fantastic writing but its final boss is probably the highlight of the game
Geno is fun, it has some unfortunate inconsistencies that sully it a bit but it's pretty satisfying near the end, particularly in the Steamworks

>>714855021
Undertale as a universe exists to serve a meta narrative, so the obvious solution is to have a meta narrative in your fangame. As long as its there, it bare the weight of any instabilities in your world building and prop up the rest of the game. Provided the meta narrative is good and the elements support it in kind.

>>714856130
What is this image a redraw of?
It looks familiar but I can't quite place it.

>>714856363
I think it's Jujutsu Kaisen but I've never actually read it so I'm not certain
There are a number of JJK UTY edits, one of those things where the zeitgeist lined up, I know this is one of them

>>714856442
I thought that was a Baki edit

>>714856596
I'm very out of the loop with what the kids are reading

>>714856008
I really can't wait for the inevitable Berdly Rematch on my Deltarune weird route playthrough
I want him to come at me again, with all his fury
Bring it on motherfucker

>>714856861
I don't think it's gonna happen. I think the game is done with Berdly, even if I hate to say it.

>>714851297
I've noticed that the replies are aimed at the first part of my post while ignoring the rest of it. So here's my response:
You might be able to get away with Chujin killing integrity as self-defense. Even though he never tried to negotiate with the human to figure out their intentions, he was protecting his kid. (Could be stated better, but it's one counterclaim to my original argument)
But tinkering with the soul after the human already died just goes too far. It's not like he's doing this out of revenge, after all. Innocent or not, he would've tried this with any soul he could get his hands on.
Mind you, this went on for YEARS. Something bad probably happened to the soul in the time. Maybe it was conscious during it. The game is so vague on details that you have to fill in the blanks by yourself.
But the main problem is that Chujin is a liar. He keeps secrets from his family, and in the eyes of the government, he's practically a criminal.
So he's dishonest to his wife, who's supposed to be loyal to him. And when he finally gives the secret up, it's so his wife can do the exact same shit that got him killed. Basically making WMDs that don't even work.
So screw all of this. Actually, I'm pissed at all the foxes after writing this. She really should have fucked Starlo. At least then her loyalty would be towards some guy obsessed with cowboys instead of (failed) world domination.

>>714857176
Nah, even in a pure Snowgrave route he's not dead, and you can turn his heater on and warm him up
He's clearly coming back eventually

>>714857395
Chujin was right to experiment on the soul. He was doing this for not only his future, but his daughter's future and the future of the monster race. Completely justified. Not only that, but both of his schemes would have worked if he just had more resources at his disposal. Axis worked perfectly and only failed because Asgore was scared of a killer robot doing what it was designed to do. The soul serum would have worked too if he had the proper equipment to refine the essence of murder out of it.

The keeping secrets, yeah that was pretty stupid and kinda shitty. But understandable if he feared the government taking the soul so it could hide it away and do nothing with it. He should have at least told Ceroba, I'll give you that.

I still think he was a good man though.

>>714857690
He's a brain dead vegetable, anon. He's gone.

>>714857984
>this parrot is deceased
he's just sleeping

>>714857984
You're going to have a bad time when Berdly shows up in the bunker Dark World looking like pic

>>714857921
>He was doing this for not only his future, but his daughter's future and the future of the monster race.
It was for the future of shit. Instead of making him a supersoldier, the serum gave him super-aids (indirectly his daughter, too).
The only real moral of this story was that Chujin was too far gone in his work to see if his experiment would even succeed, and he didn't bother to think of how his family would be affected if he messed up (he did).
And I think the point I was trying to make back there was what he did to the soul. We don't know for sure, though some anons suggested it was something like the Flowey fight.
Now imagine that going on for years. Chujin could've tortured the child, and his family would be none the wiser. Again, it's not 100% confirmed, but it is a possibility.

>>714858613
If he had the proper equipment and subjects aside from himself he could've developed a proper serum, one which has integrity's murderous intent stripped out, We know its possible to extract pure DT from souls as shown by Alphys and the DT extractor.

As for the suffering of the soul, it was a necessary evil. If he succeeded then the monster race would be safe from future human attacks and would be much better equipped to defend themselves whenever the barrier was broken. Integrity also was a murdered who was more than willing to murder a toddler, so she doesn't deserve too much sympathy.

I'm willing to class Chujin as short sighted and stupid, but he's not a bad person. Everything he did, he did out of a genuine concern for the well being of his family.

>>714859054
>whenever the barrier was broken

I've always been confused by this, isn't the barrier meant to keep monsters in? If the barrier was broken then couldn't monsterkind just flood out of that one hole into the real world? I always just assumed that humens were exempt from being stopped by the barrier, would'nt a hole in the barrier completely negate the need for 7 human souls? Or is the hole just conveniently child sized?

>>714859823
The barrier keeps everything in, nothing living can apparently pass through the barrier without both a human and monster soul.

>>714859054
>We know its possible to extract pure DT from souls as shown by Alphys and the DT extractor.
Well, in the case of DT it wasn't practical. It was clearly stated that monsters' bodies could not handle DT, with exceptions like Martlet using it because they were already producing DT to begin with.
And I think even the game doesn't want you to think Chujin did the right thing. At no point does it ever portray Chujin's experiments as a success. Ceroba, who wants to continue his research, is explicitly portrayed as in the wrong. She's literally the antagonist and final boss of the game.
Chujin might've thought he was doing it for his family, but in reality, it was for the collective race, not his individual loved ones.
I dare say that deep down, Chujin was doing it for himself. It was selfish and reckless of him to do, and he didn't care enough about the risks to stop it. Ironically, that absence would lead to his family's downfall, that family he supposedly tried so hard to protect.
I believe it was said somewhere in a dev stream that Chujin was pressured into science by his family, who had ties to the king. That explains why Chujin was so obsessed with leaving some sort of legacy.
"muh legacy" was not in fact a meme - it was the driving force behind everything Chujin did. It was never really about monsterkind. Chujin's true identity was a selfish maniac, hellbent on finding acceptance amongst monsters.
It's why he tried so many times to impress Asgore. It's why he couldn't settle down with his family - it wasn't enough. It why he isolated himself in his research. In the end, he thought he was alone.
tl;dr Chujin was insecure af
(btw, building a family was also part of "muh legacy", I think it gets mentioned somewhere)

Draw Ceroba with ruined make up, i need to see her completely wrecked and running mascara looks hot

>>714843663
so good

>>714857395
>>714858613
why the fuck are you even trying to sympathize with what he did to the ded SOUL when he already did a carnal sin of killing her?
taking a life of someone is far worse than doing some experiments after they killed them
if I died because of some random hobo, I'd be more pissed off on him because he killed me not because he did shit on my dead non-living body
I'd be different if it was the other way around but this isn't the case here

>>714844009
It'd set a very solid pattern of precedent too, considering the Blue Kid caused some mayhem as well, though whether or not it's to the same degree as what JUSTICE would bring is debatable.

>>714861104
it also kind of vindicates Toriel, as much as I hate to say that because I hate Toriel
but if Yellow was the biggest genocider in history, and that's their most recent encounter with humans, then they have every reason to suspect the next kid will be worse
and so just to be safe, Toriel "kidnapping" them and sealing them in the ruins is kind of forgivable

>>714861104
I'm also pretty sure Orange fought a bunch of people just considering the gloves and bandana and all that
He was not a pacifist that's for sure

I'm sure most of them took neutral routes because they had no meta-knowledge or idea what the fuck was going on

>>714861007
It's so weird, how every once in a while there's a scene like this with real dramatic tension as opposed to, Ceroba's meltdowns or Clover shooting kamehamehas out of nowhere (kino)

The previous 5 came together to the underground and shit was Halo reach with each one of them getting taken down.

>>714861582
I like that idea but it's not really supported by anything
but it's still fun to think about

>>714861684
It's semi supported by clovers 5 missing children poster. If they all went missing over a period of time then they wouldn't be clumped together, they would all have their own seperate missing posters, instead it's the 5 missing children, not 5 seperate missing children posters.

>>714862153
oh yeah I forgot the poster
since we're already operating the headcanon that yellow is canon, that tracks

>>714827032 (OP)
Sure. It's worse than Undertale, but it has its merits.

>>714850329
That's retarded and awesome.
Just have the other five children fall down at the same time and make a clown show of it.
> Toriel tries to take care of five idiot children and keep them in the ruins
> Once freed, they wreak havoc on the underground
> Combat's a clusterfuck. Everybody does their own actions, possibly with unique mechanics for each child
> Put the most tenuous story around it to pretend it aligns with canon, somehow making the idea more ridiculous.

>>714861582
>>714862153
>all five children suddenly went missing and went to the underground
>instead of sending an adult, they send ANOTHER CHILD to search for them
what is their major malfunction?

>>714845608
>Well it's better than the flowey ending where he just resets everything,
Wrong. Flowey revealing lore about how he Clover got up to that point and the boss fight itself was the best part of UTY.

>>714862572
Clover went to MT Ebott by himself, nobody sent him there

>>714862572
According to the dev stream, Clover came from the orphanage as did every other human (pretty stupid I know)
Unlikely that anyone sent Clover. I think Clover simply went there to prove himself that he was something more.
Until a monster shows him an ounce of motherly affection, to which he then immediately crumples over. As shown by Toriel and Martlet, he may have really been looking for a home.
Clover tried proving himself to be the hero, but in the end he was just a poser.

>>714862717
>>714862950
that sound equally as retarded desu
>have a case of 5 missing children
>doesn't try to restrict the place to prevent kids from going there
>doesn't even bother to try keep an eye out of the cowboy larper kid
now I can see why Chara hates humanity if they are this bad at managing the children problem

>>714863192
>now I can see why Chara hates humanity if they are this bad at managing the children problem
All adults in the tobyfoxverse are naturally concussed

18 naked Chujins at Roba Ranch

>>714862571
make it physics based with local voip and that's a steam best seller

Do you think is better to install shades of justice before playing it for the first time?

>>714849816
Flowey grounds the story from becoming a complete fanfic fest. Though I'd compromise with allowing another undertale monster to help out with another soul child's story for other fangames. (Alphys in uty was only used as a plot device for Martlet's serum)

>>714863840
>Throw a trash can at a snowdin resident just to see how they'd react
>Fucking monster ragdolls and drops dead on the ground before turning into dust
>This shit is like a DBZ styled display of power that it makes everyone else panic and sound the alarms
>All because blue did it for the clip
Honestly is there a rule that UT/DR fangames should adhere to the gameplay of UT/DR? i wanna see a gmod sandbox that's just coop goofballing

>>714864016
>is there a rule that UT/DR fangames should adhere to the gameplay of UT/DR?
No of course not. But the framework for the gameplay already exists and or people would turn their nose up at something that tries to break the mold.
Which is why I'm hoping my fangame doesn't end up like the latter.

Y'know, everyone's too scared to say it, but I'm just gonna come out and say it.

Most AUs that have Ceroba adopt Clover do so only because she's "the Mom" and completely disregard the timeline-transcending bond that Clover has with Martlet.

"Where did that kid go" Ceroba asked to Starlo. "Is his soul pure? Does he view any monster as foe?"

kino

>>714864965
its worse than that.
if you look at the way those AUs are structured, its mostly because they are rehashing the fanon take on the dreemurr family.

>>714843663
I'd have taken genocide as canon if they gave you a proper fight against Asgore that leads to Clover dying.
Or it wouldn't have hurt if the cowboy faggot was the actual last fight for a far west duel and then we just get to Asgore and it cuts with no conclusion instead of just Biden blasting him.

>>714865520
Yeah I agree basically
final boss 100% should've been Starlo, it's just free real estate for it to come down to a final duel

>>714865520
>biden blast
a fellow man of culture, I see

>>714830860
(Coming!)

>>714865740
>coming straight from YOUR death!

>>714864689
Ceroba snoutjob..

>>714865575
"Shoot to kill you better hit the SOUL... What you think I wouldn't be prepared? I know the stories too..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxuVau6qiiw

>>714830860
>"Chujin, I'm coming"
Not the first time she's said that.

>>714851025
>I'm probably being a bit whiny but they did not test this thing for people with arthritis huh?
Oh no, I just realized why Toby would never play any fangame ever.

>>714863506
>bro let's just completely discard all the design elements of the originals
Also why the fuck did they turn Dalv into an eldar or some shit

>>714863506
It's funny as hell how low quality Dav looks compared to the other characters.
They probably just made him on MS Paint in like 5 minutes and never touched him again after that.

>>714865936
Truth be told the design elements aren't all that good and are mostly just generic friendly furry designs.
Toby's characters while still anthropomorphic at least still looked somewhat like monsters.
And I have yet to see a good Dalv redesign. I guess the issue stems from being a vampire monster. Too close to humans.

>>714866018
I like Dalv though...

>>714866090
no you don't, stop lying

>>714866534
I do though, I think his little lightning attacks are cool and I identify with his urge to just be a NEET in the underground
the cute bunny girl even liked him

>>714865226
Ceroba looks like she’s about to sloppy kiss Starlo unironically

>>714866750
Imagine the Adult Soda breath she has.

funny reddit posts

>>714864965
> completely disregard the timeline-transcending bond that Clover has with Martlet
more people do not talk about how interesting it is that both of them are basically destined to confront each other as allies or enemies

Sea Robber

I hate Ceroba because she's too much of an OC Donut but I love Starlo despite him being just as bad in that regard

Ceroba but miscolored.

>>714869106
at least starlo isn't a generic japanese fox

>>714868761
>

>>714868761
She cute (stupid)

>>714869572
yeah but he's still basically what I would have thought was the coolest OC character when I was a 13 year old boy, which is kind of what ceroba is for girls

>>714868761
Lol

I’m enjoying finishing my first story for my monster Jesus character, and informing industry artists about it in batches, as someone whose best friend worked on Undertale.
>>714827032 (OP)
It’s Protestant slop that desecrates the spirit of the original series to feel more wholesome despite being about monsters, which are not wholesome, as I am not since I was a little kid who hid stories about cannibalizing old people from my teachers.

The Rhombus (no pictures exist of her as a rhombus)

>>714870436
>no pictures exist of her as a rhombus
Pick up a pencil, anon.

>>714870436
get that lizard drawfag to do it. He always makes unappealing Robas.

>>714868761
>>714869836
>CAN'T A SHRINE MAIDEN MASTURBATE IN THIS FUCKING HOUSE?

>>714870436
>cerobawoo
nice but please respect the signage

>>714869106
probably because starlo is held accountable.
whereas there's nothing remotely close to punishment for ceroba after she tried to murder clover, and the gang doesnt even learn about her killing kanako.

i want to fuck the pink bear from snowdin

>>714872128
sorry anon, she's been claimed ages ago by someone far more autistic than you.
wonder how he's doing anyways. havent seen him in a while...

>>714872128
Oh. Haven't seen you in a while.

>>714844880
That isn't what he's saying. He's saying that the ruins and the pacifist ending are bad, not the pacifist route in general.

>>714829624
t. ScottFalco

>Um, actually, murdering children is good and they definitely deserved it!
Monsters are biggest dindus.

>>714829852
In my head, I keep saying UTY as UTI. Speaking of, the fountain kind of looks like piss.

>this game is...for TROONS?!

>>714874693
>cole stop pissing into the fountain and close it already.
>but imagine how much more yellow it could get!
>COLE!

>>714827032 (OP)
>play genocide first try because why not
>boss monsters won't shut the fuck up every single try
>they do not ever shut the fuck up
>fox girl starts doing some straight up touhou shit
>try 5 times
>it looks like a carnival show while she rubs herself to how mad she is
>still can't skip anything
>literally forced to watch a parody of a fan game bullet hell occur as I keep pressing Z and C to skip dialogue to the point my fingers cramp

No its not worth it. Half tempted to find a cheat table just to stand still and ignore it.

>>714863506
Unironically better.

>>714875336

>>714875336
>Justice route Ceroba
>Hard
kek

>>714827032 (OP)
Just skip it and play the superior UT sequel

I liked Yellow.

True Pacifist was trying to show Clover deciding it's the Monsters who needed Justice more, Kill the Fox only route is kino and canon, neutral has a cool boss fight and I liked Flowey in it, Genocide has that kino moment where the robot apologizes to Clover for killing a kid an it gives his a rage boost.

I wish Genocide has an ending that still fit into canon, I liked everyone except the vampire who it feels never really got a plot line. Used the existing characters well. It has some pretty sprite work and I want to fuck the Squirrel.

Overall if you get to Snowdin and don't like it feel free to drop it guilt free but I played it between Ch 3 and 4 of Deltarune and considered it a fun addition.

>>714865396
Twas a nice little scene

>>714863934
flowey completely breaks the timeline though
if you want your prequel fangame to fit within canon, flowey cannot exist
also speaks volumes if you can't write a compelling story without relying on him as a crutch

>>714870436
Martlet is not wearing a bra

>>714877239
And that's a good thing

I recall finally getting around to playing Deltarune Episode 2 after finishing UTY.
It's a pity this didn't come out around the time Episode 3 did. I would have probably had an easier time with the Knight after suffering the four-stage hell that was Ceroba.

>>714875336
you don't need a cheat table, yellow is more easy to edit than undertale, you can edit a file to give you all the health and def you want.

I wish DRY wasn't just kanako shipping bait. I wish It had deltarune schizophrenia

>>714879148
Not everyone can pull off writing that kind of stuff without coming out as forced and cringe anon, be glad Toby hasn't fumbled the bag yet
It's why DRYanon is removing the weird route

>>714879148
Trying to go full schizo crazy is a very demanding order that takes a very fine understanding of how to make it work, and the wrong person doing it is how you get a case like Deltatraveler's Obliteration Route.
It's better to just exclude any evil/weird type shit if you don't have confidence to write it good, even Undertale's Genocide Route is immature kiddy shit in comparison to what the Weird Route in Deltarune is doing.

>>714879148
DRY anon has a good example laid out for him, especially the overall purpose of weird route in the first place. I dont like that he's giving up on doing a weird route so early, I was looking forward to it

>>714877102
>flowey completely breaks the timeline though
>if you want your prequel fangame to fit within canon, flowey cannot exist
>also speaks volumes if you can't write a compelling story without relying on him as a crutch
Gaster's death or disappearance happens pretty early in the timeline, which Alphys then gets hired and does true lab shady shit which has flowey come into existence. Flowey at least has been there for 2 or 3 human souls before frisk.

>>714879549
You really think Flowey would let some human souls go past him without doing anything?
Or how long do you think the amalgans have existed since they were created at the same time?
Adding Flowey to a fangame compresses the timeline too much

>>714879518
>especially the overall purpose of weird route in the first place
We don't know what that is yet

>>714879285
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>>714879518
schizophrenia doesn't necessarily mean 'evil'. any kind of mancountry bullshit is still schizophrenia. the man showing up in the dinner and car too. it's disturbing, but not malefic

>>714879549
You can pull any timeline fuckery you want. Flowey explicitly says in Undertale how he tried every way possible to get Asgore to reveal the human souls. We know that them being in the barrier isn't the issue because as soon as Asgore reveals them, Flowey can grab them whenever he wants. If a single human ever came in at the same time Flowey existed, they'd have to die and be collected in a way that Flowey, with his power to reset to his own personal satisfaction of knowledge, DOESN'T get an opportunity to grab the souls.

>>714831691
Here ya go.

>>714875336
she filtered me too

>>714880227
My favorite...

>>714879148
DRY is boring and ugly. No amount of HMOFA pandering will make it interesting when it has those problems. What's the SOUL even gonna do in this scenario? Kill Kanako?

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>>714878650
Neat then.
>>714880278
Honestly I'd have kept going if not for the damned dialogue. It feels very amateurish this wasn't fixed.

>>714879148
weird route btfo's genocide route (atleast for me) because its written for our protag to slowly wittle down and break someone that they already know, instead of btfo'ing your friends that dont remember you
i think he can pull it off if he tried

>>714842902
so yes or no?

>>714863192
I thought the children were supposed to be orphans/from broken homes, and they usually went to Mt. Ebbot to die.
Might be getting it wrong, tho

>>714879148
>I wish DRY wasn't just kanako shipping bait
You might be retarded for even thinking DRY is purely shipping bait it's not, it's already confirmed romance anyway. There's already a story and setup going on, chapter 2 isn't even finished yet and you already want schizo shit. Let them finish the damn chapter first, I have more faith in them than Toby at this point.

>>714881768
is the first chapter of DRY 2 even done?

>>714882642
DRY2 is still trying to make the battle system
DRY1 has chapter 1 and 2/3rds of chapter 2, but he is remaking chapter 1 at the moment because it was kinda bland

>>714882853
I thought they gave up on DRY1

>>714881136
>Honestly I'd have kept going if
you'd have kept going if you could have won the fight

>>714882853
You mean Dryanon1 is remaking it? Why don't these guys get a discord and actually organize.

>>714883285
dry2anon made a discord but he hasn't done anything with it

>>714883021
He came back after the positive reception it had after he dropped the demo

>>714883285
>discord
That would just kill the project by attracting kids, secondaries
and crazy people

how does a sequel to yellow even make sense when yellow is not there

>>714883519
make it an adaptation of return to form

>>714883459
>attracting kids, secondaries and crazy people
Just ban any non-productive member and once they get enough members, just make it private. So long no one's a tranny or some retarded kid with mental issues like made up genders, then there won't be any problems.

>>714883459
>That would just kill the project by attracting kids, secondaries
>and crazy people
While I agree, DRYanon does need a team or at the very least some musicians since music is such an important part of Undertale and Deltarune, coordinating with people on an anonymous forum is pretty hard

>>714842808
>but I think leeching off of some multimillion corpo slop and making something new and interesting, and leeching off one guy's work are two different levels.
I think you've very mistaken impressions of Fox and Itoi if you think there's that much difference in this specific instance. Like, you clearly think the present day net worth imbalance is in the wrong direction, for one, and you also seem to think Fox's industry connections were made after releasing games rather than before.

>>714849562
>But it seems lately that some are seriously pushing this idea that Ceroba should constantly be thinking about Chujin, that she shouldn't move on because she's "loyal".
Same problem exists with toriel and asgore btw

>>714884170
toriel hates asgore though, unless you mean asgore still simping over her

>>714883796
how did the peeps who made the snot game do it?

>>714884543
Pretty sure they had a discord

>>714885112
and they had a mormon work ethic

>>714857690
Thats only for when you abort the weird route after berdly got snowgraved

>>714870436
That beak is hard to look at, could an artGOD touch it up a bit?

>>714857690
I think he will wake up if you abort the route, but if you don't he dies

>>714885327
you can't abort after snowgraving until chapter 4 at noelle's house, and you can't go to the hospital after that

I only killed one monster in my first run and that was Star. Seems like that cuts a lot of plot because Ceroba had like 30 seconds of screentime. After that I only did genocide.
Is it worth replaying for pacifist.

>>714885648
the later half of the steam works change in pacifist and of course there is the final battle + ending

>>714885327
no, you can still do it without aborting the route
I raped Noelle right after I warmed him up

>>714879460
I think its worth trying through, deltatraveler is just one of the unfortunate cases where the evil run sucks, if anything, you can head a different direction if you arent confident about writing schizo stuff like the weird run

>>714883796
>>714884543
>>714885112
He's gonna need to figure something out because gamejoltanon/toasteremporer has seemingly gone awol

>>714886186
Or not, since the page was updated with that bit of cover art.

>>714860528
>It was clearly stated that monsters' bodies could not handle DT,
Can not handle large quantities of DT. Alphys injected the amalgams many times before they started melting. Even the literal corpses in the lab survived the first injection just fine.
>with exceptions like Martlet using it because they were already producing DT to begin with
what makes you think Martlet had a substantial amount of natural DT
>I believe it was said somewhere in a dev stream that Chujin was pressured into science by his family, who had ties to the king.
Wasn't it stated in the game that his father disapproved of his career choice and wanted him to remain a carpenter?

>>714886186
>>714886337
they still communicate over at the other place

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>>714886047
What i meant is that its there so that berdly revives no matter what if you abort the weird run so things can be snapped back to normal and so toby doesnt have to write too many scenarios, while berdly dies no matter what in a full weird run

>>714861582
5 humans arriving at once would be doomsday for the underground

>>714885648
Nah, the writing gets worse

>Chester and Lester, two drunken rednecks, fall into the underground while hunting for mountain deer or something.
>With their equipment
>Shoot the shit out of Toriel because "OH SHIT ITS A FUCKING YETI! SHOOT IT! SHOOT IT!"
>Make it to Snowdin and do some Bird hunting
>Somehow make it to the Wild East and go Fox hunting

>>714885648
It's a good ending, and very well executed, even though it doesn't make any narrative sense, but only if you think about it too hard :\

>Its the opposite
>Ketsukane family are all Western cowboys
>Starlo pretends to be stereotypical Japanese from what he sees in movies.
>Clover is some son of a Japanese salaryman and takes offense to Starlo.

>>714864016
I like the idea of a battle with the humans being like this DBZ saiyan sagastyle desperate struggle for survival for the monsters, meanwhile the humans are just fucking around and laughing hysterically at the silly ways they can kill the monsters. Imagine the morale impact that would have.

>>714865226
>Starlo trying to hide his erection while Roba threatens him
You know he would.

>>714886407
I see.
while not private, that could work, unless it being an image board is too much of an issue

>>714879518
You can't just copy the weird route without understanding it. It works within the context of Deltarune because of the themes of the story, and because of the very specific histories of (you), Kris, and Noelle. It requires the setup of "your choices don't matter" coming after Undertale to make you desperate enough to do anything to get a real choice, Noelle is a weirdo, sadist, and seems to be a magnet for game glitches, Kris has his own history involving Noelle and some sketchy past. You can't just shoehorn Cole and Kanako into that same arc and expect it to work.

>>714829269
>she is stupid damn it but not in a charming way like Papyrus.
you could apply the same thing to Sans who can kill you at any point in genocide but only decides to do so at the very end because they hoped you could change

>>714883285
DRY1 is a side project. DRYanon already has an original game that he's working on with an actual team.

>>714889334
He was just keeping the promise he made to Toriel

>>714883357
correction, its a discord account that im using purely for DMs with the spriters i've found.
i am almost definitely not making a public server, at most just a development server.
>>714886186
last he told me he'd be busy for a while, and to relay any DRY1 releases to him.

>>714891591
"This is what you wanted, right, old lady? This is my promise I made to you..."

>>714827032 (OP)
It's not official, so no. I don't care for fangames.

damn, two threads to the bump limit two days in a row.

>>714889334
>who can kill you at any point in genocide but only decides to do so at the very end because they hoped you could change
sans somehow knows that if you get to asgore, the world literally ENDS
any other time, no matter how shit the ending is for sans, chalks up to "eh he'll reset anyway lol"

>>714892240
granted that was a whole month ago...

Don't forget
I've been with you from the start

>>714894019
creep.

need more of THEM

Just a reminder that I love my wife.

>>714895019
oh shit he returns

It's Kanakover...

>>714895268
Never say never, fucko

>>714895268
soon™

>>714895389
Infinite TP exploit?