>EIden Ring Nightreign somehow tricked three entire generations of people into thinking this band and nu-metal itself was ever good

This thread again

>>714830480 (OP)
stop being a fag; chunky monkey has a good pipes on her.

Made this exact same thread last night. Give it a rest.

There's nothing more subjective than music taste. You either like the sounds or you don't. Newer songs have more intense sounds that can be a bit too much for older people but older songs just don't hit hard enough for younger people, who are used to the kind of distortions in newer songs. Given that access to music is better now, if 80's metal bands remastered their old songs with more intense distortions they might make a lot more money from today's audiences than they did when they originally released.

>>714830480 (OP)
alright op we get it
just jerk off already
thank you

anon we know it's bad, everyone knows the music sucks but it's the nostalgia and corniness that's endearing, that's why it's a meme in the first place........

>>714831291
>if 80's metal bands remastered their old songs with more intense distortions
Literally the loudness war.

>>714831291
>There's nothing more subjective than music taste
Is that the lie they tell newer generations in school now? Is that why everything is shit now? Because dumbass teachers and parents are telling some post 9/11 mongolodyte that nothing is good or bad just subjective?

>>714830480 (OP)
>nu-metal itself was ever good
it was fun era desu

>>714831436
Nah after listening to this kind of stuff as an adult I've come to realize how mature emo was. It was the last gasp of philosophical rebellion before obama launched his race war. All the publishers suddenly abandoned it and pushed for single motherhood and drugs.

>>714830480 (OP)
Nu-metal was great. Not everything needs to be high brow.

>>714830480 (OP)
>inb4 that one /mu/ autist comes in to shit on 90's pop rock bands.
I'm onto you nigger, you're autistic with burned out cochlears!

What is the vidya equivalent of Hybrid Theory?

>>714831603
If you ignore the rest of the post then it does seem that way. Unfortunately you're acting exactly the same as the people you're criticizing. Why do you hate yourself, anon?

>>714831824
Halo

>>714831761
>emo
>mature
Retard.

>>714831603
>music taste
>taste
Maybe you should be able to recognize important keywords before talking you fucking trog.

What the fuck are you talking about, Evanescence is making a comeback, they made a song for DmC netflix show and the John Wick spinoff.

As for the old songs? They were great, I don't know why you made this thread.

As a natural gatekeeper tho, I hate when old things that I loved get unburied. I'm pretty sure it was tiktok that made them popular again, just one of the many things zoomers are doing, they are reviving things that used to exist but they were too young or were not even born to witness.

The only good nu-metal band is Rise of the Northstar and they only started putting out music like 15 years after nu-metal died

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_y31bRW3M

>>714832220
It's not a sin to like things that are older than you. God forbid I think Disintegration is a great album even though it's a couple years older than I am.

>normalfag opinion: all nu-metal is good
>nu-metal fan opinion: all nu-metal is good except Evanescence
>nu-/v/ opinion: no nu-metal is good
>correct opinion: The Sickness and Adrenaline completely solo every other nu-metal album ever created

>>714832632
Evanescence can barely be called nu-metal to begin with. Those elements aren't terribly evident on Origin or The Open Door, and given how much corporate meddling went into Bring Me To Life who knows how much trend chasing informed Fallen specifically?

>>714832080
NTA but depending on the emo band, they were more mature than the other gay shit that was around.
>>714832632
I can't stand listening to disturbed. I didn't like disturbed 18 years ago nor did I like those faggots Avenged Sevenfold. A little piece of heaven was their only good song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEjcwyxutaQ

>>714832223
>instruments
sound good
>lyrics
screamo rap garbage

i'm glad you enjoy it but I just can't take it seriously

>>714832795
WAKE ME UP

>>714830480 (OP)
The revisionism about nu-metal being good already started a few years ago.

There's a reason fans of every other subgenre of metal music all hate rap/nu-metal and metalcore.

>>714830480 (OP)
WAKE ME UP

>>714832632
>galaxybrain opinion: the only good nu-metal songs were released when I was a teenager, everything else is garbage
I think I'm in this category, every time I try to listen to a nu-metal band that doesn't have a personal nostalgia factor it kinda sucks.

>>714832220
>they are reviving things that used to exist but they were too young or were not even born to witness.
what the fuck is this mentality, so i can't enjoy any of the songs from vice city because they were made before i was born?

christ you faggots need to stop finding the most stupid petty reasons just so you can whine about zoomers for the nth time

>>714831928
Sounds like projection to me.
>>714832125
Yes there is such a thing called taste when applying to music you shitskin vermin.

>>714833036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLYl4fM8yk

I always picture people who shit on nu-metal while trying to sell diarrhea groan metal as turbo fatasses with shitty pube beards.

>>714832223
No but really, who the fuck else is putting out nu-metal like this in 2025?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2EkKgKSCoU

>>714833076
>revisionism
It didn't become popular because people didn't like it retard. It's not revisionism, you and your niche just never enjoyed it.

>>714831824
ITS LIKE UH
WHIRLWIND ON TOP OF MY HEAD

>>714831824
Persona 3, also feel the Reanimation album gets overlooked because of it being primarily a remix/collab album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyeLdbF-pi0

Amy Lee becoming a normalfag wife with kids is the craziest thing ever. Good for her honestly.

99.99% of music sounds like dogshit and I'm convinced that most people listen to niche bands in order to fit in or seem cultured/interesting
I don't even know one composer that has more than two good TRACKS. Not even albums. I've never listened to a full album, because why the fuck would I if it's full of shitty fillers that sound off

>>714830480 (OP)
you shut the fuck up amy lee is a fucking goddess who has drained me more times than I can count. also they are a great band.

>>714837268
retard take. listen to more music or keep waxing your pathetic pedantic musings.

>>714837268
you have autism

>>714830480 (OP)
>saves 150 people from crashing into the Hudson River
apologize

>>714837268
>everything is bad nothing is good, woe is me the world is cruel
Gee what a super original thought on /v/ of all places...

OP:
>CAN'T WAKE UP

>>714831824
Linkin park being added to boomer radio stations was one of the weirdest developments in the last year.

>>714830480 (OP)
It was good go fuck yourself while you listen to 'lil mumbla rappa or whatever the fuck normie zoomers listen to.

>>714838526
People still listen to radio stations? I assumed everyone just plugged their phones in and listened to their personal playlists either doing chores or in the car.

>>714837136
That pretty much happens to any chick that has enough personality to engage in a subculture or scene without delving so deep into it, you become a mentally ill retard that shits all over common sense to prove how cool you are.

Like all things, women (at least older millenial chicks and some Gen X ones) join subcultures as a means of self-expression when they are young and are trying to find out who they are (not in the whore way, but in actuality) and eventually give it up once they start settling down, get married and have kids. It's a good thing for young men and women to have a means to express themselves in normal healthy ways when they are young.

>>714830480 (OP)
>>714832424
I'm glad zoomies skipped grunge almost entirely
I would hate to see some broccoli-geaded mulatto saying how much a fan of Alice in Chain he is

>>714839281
Broccoli-haired*

>>714839281
There was a nirvana resurgence in the 2000s.

>>714839408
Tbh I have seen zoomers saying they like nirvana, but that's so surface-level that's irrelevant IMO
The moment they start listening to Stone Temple Pilots or Days of the New is the moment I start getting pissed

>>714833036
>>714833127
PUT ME TO SLEEP

>>714839824
Even surface level grunge is boring, but you have to understand that it felt very new back then and it introduced fashion that still endures to this day

>>714830480 (OP)
>/mu/ zoomer seething
At the end of the day, you're still a faggot.

>>714831761
The woman in the OP probably voted for Obama twice and voted for Kamala. Kys nigger

>>714833202
>I think I'm in this category, every time I try to listen to a nu-metal band
Yeah I get it, it's why I adore limp bizkit. I've got a lot of memories of riding in my dad's truck to school while that shit blasts, so I'll always love limp bizkit.

>>714830480 (OP)
not only was the genre good, it was the last time humanity made anything soulful. I'd gladly trade lady caca and whatever garbage zoomers listen to to bring back this era of society

>>714837268
Honest to god I don’t care what music genre you like but you’re automatically more intelligent then the faggot that posted this lmao

>>714831436
Feels weird to be an actual Evanescence fan and hear everybody say:
>well no y'see it was always bad but life is a trillion times worse now so I like it an ironic way
Nigger just say you hate or like the band, not everything down to freedom of expression has be hidden under a million layers of irony

>>714840262
"My Way" smells like childhood
Pure kino.

>>714840386
>not everything down to freedom of expression has be hidden under a million layers of irony
Why are people nowadays so afraid to have a genuine opinion? I don't get it.

>>714830480 (OP)
I never liked this band or song tbqh.

>>714840489
Because nobody wants to be judged for their own tastes on a dying imageboard where 99% of people will never interact with each other on a personal level. Everyone would either hide behind ironic shitposting or just say everything is bad to sound cool.

>>714840491
why do trannies love revenant so much

>>714831771
nu-metal was great, emo faggots don't belong in the same breath however. emo was and will always be garbage

>>714840434
Based, for me it's "Take A Look Around"

>>714840262
absolutely based and wholesome

>>714839281
>>714839953
Grunge doesn't get close to enough shit as it deserves. I could sort of understand growing up with synth pop, new wave, hair metal etc. and finally getting something that feels like a breath of fresh air compared to overproduced 80s music and then feeling like you could be part of a movement that turns against that. But Grunge is such a boring style of music that I don't understand how it could possibly endure. Like, I have way more respect for what Guns 'n Roses was doing at the time and even see straight up pop emo as a more serious genre if only because of The Black Parade.

>>714840262
I still have a soft spot for "Break Stuff" because it was used in one of the original RvB trailers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5zdtGuWiLI

>>714840768
>>714840434
For me.. It's also My Way, I only started listening quite recently because My Way came on a random playlist, and I was listening to all of their stuff while playing on the jigsaw puzzle threads around that time

>>714840320
>I'd gladly trade lady caca
Lady Gaga is the best pop artist of the past 2 decades, hands down. She like the 'Fortnite' of music, in that she's actually really good at what she does, but people feel the need to shit on her to act like they're sophisticated.

>>714830480 (OP)
Numetal is good, as long as you're listening to the good ones

>>714837268
Unironically a skill issue. Like, whatever's up with your head music filters your ass.

>>714830480 (OP)
Always was

>>714831291
Idk i skipped the Nu-Metal phase entirely and went straight into Death Metal. Only band i remember enjoying was SOAD

>>714833202
I'm in a weird ass position where I was a fan of Evanescence and Lacuna Coil and had a fork in the road from albums like Fallen and Karmacode - the nu-metal road or the goth metal road. And I actually took the goth metal road, bands like Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride became my shit. It wasn't until many, many years later that I revisited that fork and gave bands like Korn, Slipknot and Deftones a chance. Honestly, not bad. Not what I would've chosen back then, but I can fuck with it some now.

>>714841715
Meant 4 OP

>>714841150
Grunge sounds rugged and raw. It is pretty much the only style of rock that appeals to me. I also like folk a lot and it has kind of the same vibes IMO. I'm nowhere near technical when evaluating music though, I guess I simply like non-overproduced stuff. "Tecnnically impressive" shit like Dream Teather is insufferable to me.
>Guns 'n Roses
>The Black Parade
I cannot stand "male" vocals with a high pitch. Makes me want to fucking vomit.
Both of your examples are flaming flamboyant faggots and are repulsive to me.

>>714831436
>anon we know it's bad, everyone knows the music sucks but it's the nostalgia and corniness that's endearing
I dunno Chief Little Big Bro, the heartfelt lyrics however jarring for others sat fine with me then and now.
In hindsight I actually find it funny since I've heard so many people on social media since gripe about how reserved or twofaced their partner or men and women in general are, yet the herd itself stifles sincerity by looking down on expressions of it.

Call Me When You're Sober is a great summation of that, how fucked up people have to get before they yearn for open engagement and affection. I just don't get why, who are we trying to impress living and dying closeted and miserable? Many who end up that way are because how little anyone gives a shit about them anyway. No one's going to be clapping at the funeral how bereft of emotion we got through it, we'll just be another body under the feet of the living who eventually dismiss the significance of our time here as much as we had. Mad.

Loosen up the restraints of your peer issued straitjacket and listen to the "cringe" musings of goths, punks and all those who aren't ashamed to speak. It won't kill you.

Or keep doing the same shit.

>>714842409
>Both of your examples are flaming flamboyant faggots and are repulsive to me.
I don't blame you for thinking this, because I specifically chose them as examples of somewhat faggy music that I still find more interesting to listen than anything to come from Grunge, because Gunge just bores me and has barely anything going on. I might attempt to listen to something from a band like Pearl Jam, but whenever I try I'm just left with this sense of "oh, that's it?", like I'm hoping the music is going to do something interesting, but it never does and I just end up immediately bored with it. I get the same feeling when I hear something from The White Stripes like Seven Nation Army.

>You will never see the OG members ever play live together again
Why even live
https://youtu.be/nd_dZ_6Dbq8?si=8PFup1uh9rRT303d

>>714830480 (OP)
no nose

>>714843661
Funny thing is, Pearl Jam is the least interesting grunge band IMO.
You seem to like more performative stuff, which is the polar opposite of grunge.
The genre to me feels very down to earth and genuine. Something I'd listen when instrospecting after a hard day of work while drinking some beer or whiskey.
It speaks to me because, in my view, it evokes the qualities I aspire to have.
I'm probably just an old soul, because I like being brooding and bitter lol.
I specially like grunge when it kinda sounds like folk/americana:
https://youtu.be/1DnSiznUrVI
https://youtu.be/ODTv9Lt5WYs
https://youtu.be/Fm72DPJCX58

>>714838526
It's because millennials are listening to boomer radio stations now.

>>714842409
Ever listen to Paw?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCKlTJxGAuI

>>714843661
I want more emotion or "oomph" in my music but it has to invoke something in me either from the lyrics or instrumentals and the beat. And thats lead to me liking many genres of rock.

>wow i bet everyone backed then listened to evanescence, deftones, and boa
>music?

>>714844870
This song is strangely familiar
Also very good, definitely up my alley
Thank you for the recommendation

>>714845247
Ever play Road Rash?

>>714830480 (OP)
For me the funniest part is that Japanese people think the song and the whole aesthetic paired with Nightreign is unironically cool. Not a hint of corniness or ironic enjoyment. They still think it’s genuinely cool.

>>714830480 (OP)
Imagine not liking Evanescence.
I suppose you like women dressed like sluts singing rap songs right?

>>714845318
Oh. It all makes sense now
I suspect it was from THPS or something

>>714845406
Suspected*

hating nu metal is a common reddit opinion

>>714830480 (OP)
They put nu metal in Elden Ring? Maybe I should check it out.

>>714831291
>CARRY ON MY WAYWARD--
>*BLEEP*
>*WOMP WOMP-BRRRRRRR*
>"YO SKRILL, FUCK THIS BEAT UP NIGGA!"
>WAYWARD-- *WUB WUB* WAYWARD-- *SKREEEEEEEEEEEEE*
>*DJ SMOKEY ANNOUNCER VOICE* "I-I-I-IT'S THE WAYWARD SON HYPERCORE REMIX 2K25! FEATURING JEFRE CANTU-LEDESMA AS POST-AFRICAN REPETITIONS CONSULTANT"
>PRRRRRRRP! SKRR SKRR IT'S LIT!

>>714832632
>>correct opinion: The Sickness and Adrenaline completely solo every other nu-metal album ever created

>>714845708
Only for a trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6j_qqYQaM

>>714831436
Its good though. Corny? Sure, but its still good music.

>>714839281
Why do you care?

>>714845980
Good things should remain exclusive.
Gatekeeping is a must. Fuck normies.

>>714833076
Its possible to enjoy Rainbow and Linkin Park, anon.

>>714846060
You can't gatekeep music thats readily available to people in the internet age of all things. I can only imagine someone listening to classical music during its heyday and spitefully raging at the fact that his children and those youthful degenerates like it too.

>>714846060
Why though? How does some broccoli hair listening to Soundgarden ruin your ability to enjoy their music?

>>714846065
it's artificial enjoyment

isnt this a christian song

>>714838526
What are you talking about? They've been on the boomer radio station in my area for the past 20 years, at least.

>>714845771
It sucks that Elden Ring is the worst game in the series stylistically. DS3 and Bloodborne would go way better with this song.

>>714831436
Speak for yourself dude, I never thought they were corny. I always understood the metaphors, imagery and the strange atmosphere they were trying to convey in their songs.

>>714846153
>>714846201
I don't have anything against zoomers per se, just giganormie shit like the broccoli hair. I hate milennials way more honestly, such a shit cattle generation.
Normies ruin everything. Look at the state of modern gaming ffs.
If normies started to listen to grunge again, I GUARANTEE they'd start building stupid shit on top of it and it wouldn't take long until it became associated with some cringy gay modern stereotype

>>714846323
What does that mean?

>>714832223
Thanks for putting me on to this.

numetal is fucking gay
it was gay 20 years ago and it's still gay today

>>714831824
Meteora is better

>>714846614
But how does that effect your ability to enjoy the music? Limp Bizkit is associated with that awful new DMC show, but that doesn't stop me from liking their music.

I'm 32. Nu-metal fucking sucks, grunge is some of the worst "music" to fucking exist next to country, rap fucking sucks, hip-hop fucking sucks. Why do people here listen to absolute garbage?

>>714846614
How does people liking a brand of music ruin it? Theres millions of people right now who like orchestral music or 1930's swing music, yet NONE of them were alive when those genres were at their peak. They can't ruin something that saw its time in the sun and has a few niche continuations in the modern era. It sounds like you just hate specific generations whos opinions on the music would be inconsequential anyways. 100 years from now theres gonna be someone saying they love Michael Jackson even though all the people alive were born after his death.

>>714846827
Because they aren't cynical faggots who hate everything.

>>714846919
I hate shitty music. Also, I'm from Washington so my disdain for faggot grunge music in immeasurable.

>>714846827
what do you listen to? enlighten us plebs

>>714846616
Inauthentically designed to make you feel enjoyment as opposed to coming naturally through its inherent quality and sincerity

>>714846732
It is not by choice. I'm very driven by imagery/association/stereotypes, sometimes subtle ones.
I'm probably autistic, but the moment I start associating something with some perceived negative pattern, it is over to me.
As an example, I was very into motorcycles, until I noticed only ghetto trash niggers and boomers ride them where I live, then my enjoyment was gone overnight.

>>714846980
neutral milk hotel, death grips, swans, mozart, radiohead, etc

>AND IF A DOUBLE DECKER BUS
>CRASHES INTO US
what game should use it in its trailer?

>>714846980
https://youtu.be/BzONJQRHtj0?si=r3t2tuWNzIcwk1P_
https://youtu.be/J1N_N2tdkl0?si=8FMKl5PCgR5jJg9v
https://youtu.be/K376AzjMHZs?si=vSveoEUa7h7tvkHv
https://youtu.be/05NcK-TiT64?si=FypdXZXqRoS8XKht
https://youtu.be/aFVWrLIvBsE?si=HjtaGrNA6_APw7Vg
>>714847059
Not this gay shit

>>714847059
>/mu/core Pitchfork trash
Fuckin kek.

https://youtu.be/B9FzVhw8_bY?si=Hp-FOTp3VLUAu5t3

post some good music if your tastes are so enlightened.

>>714847104
Tears of War 7 or whatever instalment they're up to now

>>714830480 (OP)
Context?

>>714830480 (OP)
I like Evanescence for the whole gothic vibe of the era but it's hard to get past the basic pop chord progressions. Then again that's why the album is so catchy in the first place.

>>714847353
https://youtu.be/Ot6j_qqYQaM?si=2fKZESA7UJlzZk7u

>>714847028
>I'm probably autistic, but the moment I start associating something with some perceived negative pattern, it is over to me.
That's like, the exact opposite of autism and is like a more extreme version of a normalfag midset. Autists will enjoy shit that appeals to them regardless of what other people are doing.

>>714847059
interesting how this shit leaked all over the internet and is no longer /mu/core, rather internet-core, this is what every other fantano watcher/rym user/music community member listens to since like 2019

>>714847234
My schizo music taste summarized
https://youtu.be/MLF7npKnWko
https://youtu.be/8CPgYelksN4
https://youtu.be/uAE6Il6OTcs

>>714847141
Lol, everything here sounds like a parody of nu-metal. It's genuinely funny.

>>714847520
Perhaps. It is what it is.

>8-10 years old
>listen to N-SYNC, Britney Spears, Eminem, and some rap
>move in with my dad at 12
>start listening to 80's butt rock
>start getting more into more thrash
>16
>start listening to heavy metal, metalcore, deathcore
>30's now
>still listen to heavy thrash metal with growling/screaming
Nothing quite hits that visceral scratch. Everything else is too soft and boring

>>714847615
I think you might be retarded

>>714847141
this is just as cringe as grunge hiphop and nu metal

AMAZING taste you got there little spergy fuck

>>714847891
Post your wakanda beats, faggot

>>714846980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7xBJ5M6zU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-6xkAzBhf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJXXCgmsPYs

>>714847141
Peak 12yo fatso with cargo shorts core

>>714847028
This makes me thankful my autism just makes me obsess over cartoon characters.

>>714830480 (OP)
>IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE DAYS

>>714847974
The last one was decent, the other two gave me >>714848004 vibes

>>714847361
I recommend you check out The Open Door, it's the most experimental album they ever did side from the demo work and the production is stronger than Fallen. Less of the traditional pop structure that Moody was known for.

>>714831291
Nothing to do with sound. Most people don't give a shit about music itself and base their preferences purely on association with a time period that was nostalgic to them. This is why music is split into a gorillion sub genres by culture and not by any logical musical distinctions.

>>714832632
it's crazy how disturbed never sounded like this again. even their second album didn't sound like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2_dDRrm7Dc

>>714836930
>Reanimation album gets overlooked because of it being primarily a remix/collab album.
Fact of the day.

WAKE UP

How long before we start getting people who think that Creed was good?

>>714848695
you can't inb4 something that's already happened

>>714830480 (OP)
>>714831436
>I'm going to make an anime based on these two pictures

>>714848738
It's already happened? When?

>>714830480 (OP)
Evanescence was and is always great

>>714848847
Anon, have you taken a look at /mu/ lately?

>try to look up an old video on YT
>it just keeps showing the same 3 videos over and over again
I fucking hate the internet now.

>>714847458
That sounds feels so out of place. But good job them for doing it.

>>714848113
That description is so damn specific it reeks of projection but either way.

>>714849145
before:year is the most useful feature on youtube
It would be actually impossible to find old videos without it

>>714830480 (OP)
Evanescence sucks. Uh huh huh huh.

>>714849514
If you were alive at the time, that is the archetype of kid who liked Saliva, terrible band.

>>714849546
cheers. my spite still lives on though.

>>714849676
I was and never heard of such a stigma, but you said it applied to the first two, not the last one.

>>714847141
When will the harsh vocals meme be dead? It's use here and there for effect can be okay, but a whole fucking song in harsh vocals sounds like tryhard trash every time.

I can't believe some retards tried to convince me when I was younger that harsh vocals were just a kind of throat singing. Imagine claiming that this fucking garbage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhbATp6QgOY&list=RDXhbATp6QgOY

is basically just like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcd59zMIadk&list=RDtcd59zMIadk

or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3encA6KYQUI&list=RD3encA6KYQUI

>>714848695
Creed was good and they were still good when they became Alter Bridge.

unmatched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVa_GdDBwsU

>>714830480 (OP)
Same with Linkin Park

>>714846693
after 5 years of extensive analysis and serious argumentation I have concluded that this is incorrect. Meteora has better production and maybe more coherent (maybe) but ultimately HT is unmatched in terms of the aesthetic of the conceit of the band ( the proverbial hybrid theory) and the consistent level of quality track for track. I challenge you to revisit and listen to both albums in full back to back and not come to the realization that HT simply has no holes and is a murderous road of great track after great track that all paint a singular picture of a vision of a hybrid genre that you can almost taste because of how strongly the aesthetic is projected.

>>714837268
You shouldn't be listening to music anyway (except for nasheeds, that is, those go HARD)

>>714837268
I think you're just autistic. Or underage.

>>714837268
This is the worst post on /v/ right now, congratulations

>>714849896
That wasn't me, I was just adding my experience with Saliva fans.

>>714837268
Probably the most low IQ post I have ever seen that wasn't just broken english.

https://youtu.be/Eu5OO_rnccc?t=106

Where are my oldfags at?

>>714852313
As for the consistency and continuity of the albums, I think the beginning/middle sections (tracks 2-3) on Meteora are much better than on Hybrid Theory.
Don't get me wrong, With You is awesome, but I think the solemn but hopeful SomewhereIBelong and angsty LyingFromYou outshine the record in this segment.
The album closers are both equally powerful, but The dark abyss of Session beats the weird epiphany of CureForTheItch.

You said Meteora has better production but didn't elaborate why. Meteora has less hip-hop turntable sampling and more stings in it. This culminates into really powerful chords that grip your soul.
Just Listen to the symphonic elements of Breaking the Habit.
This is just the strings and vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxt1yd_TTMA

Hybrid Theory is a killer back-to-back punch of a record, but I prefer Meteora for these reasons.

The one thing I'll give Hybrid Theory over Meteora is DYNAMIC SHIFTS from verses to choruses. They are really atmospheric, memorable, and transformative in a way that only the best Nu Metal did.
The best track on Hybrid Theory hands down is Forgotten. The shift from the verse to the chorus, as well as the lofi ending segment make this one of their best songs ever. The bassline and guitar intertwine in such a wonderous way during the verses only to switch back to Nu Metal Fuck-you-powerchords for the prechorus, and beautiful jamming for the chorus.

Both are structured very similarly as albums, but where Hyrid Theory gets ends with a moment of hope and new-direction, Meteora ends with ultimate despair with the closer Numb. It also leads beautifully into the hurt/recovery vibes and "Turning a new page" message of their album afterwards MinutesToMidnight.
This is another reason whyu I prefer Meteora to Hybrid. It serves a more defined role in Linkin Park's discography than Hybrid did, since Minutes To Midnight wouldn't make any sense without Meteora, and Numb ended up being the more powerful closer.

>>714856675
I don't necessarily disagree with any of that. I even understand prefering the top end Meteora (even though I think HT is both more consistent and ultimately also has a higher peak), I just don't see how all that you posted leads you to prefer Meteora

you gay niggas and your labels, to me is all the same thing: rock
>b-b-but evanescence, nickelback and def leppard ain't the same
it is

Didn't we already have this thread yesterday?

>>714857035
Let me elaborate more.

I tend to prefer Meteora because
1. The Early/Middle section of the album is better to me
2. It leads into the next album better than Hybrid did
3. The album closer Numb is slightly more powerful than PushingMeAway, although it is DAMN close (the InTheEnd callback at the very end of the album is fire)
4. Higher fidelity
5. Highest peak IMO was BreakingTheHabit

The main draw of Hybrid over Meteora to me isn't the consistency/continuity of the album, but rather the Dynamic Shifts that I talked about.

>>714857974
I mean, fair I guess. I believe you are incorrect, but it's not an egregious opinion.

>. It leads into the next album better than Hybrid did
minutes to midnight is comparitively dogshit though

O WA A A AH

>>714858167
>minutes to midnight is comparitively dogshit though
I think this is where we differ.

If you had or chose to develop a taste for MinutesToMidnight and AThousandSuns I think you'll start to understand the appeals of Meteora over HybridTheory.

Remember, Mike Shinoda had been rewriting and perfecting his vision of Hybrid Theory for a full decade before it came out, and nobody was truly sure the record would meet the massive sales expectations Warner Bros threw at it.

Unlike Hybrid Theory, the making of Meteora happened when Mike already knew there would be many more albums to come. So with that element in mind, he wanted a great follow up that also set the stage for new directions later on. Hybrid Theory didn't really achieve this as well because it wasn't a priority.

I actually liked Hybrid Theory better back when I only listened to the first two albums like you do. Once I realized the true nature of MinutesToMidnight and AThousandSuns, I changed my mind.

There's a ton of music out there, but if you ever want to give it another chance, I will say MinutesToMidnight is actually my favorite Linkin Park record.
It is my personal 2nd record of all time, too. I could gush about it this entire thread.

>>714857848
you're here forever lmao

>>714830480 (OP)
the only nu-metal bands i will ever acknowledge is korn, slipknot and Ill Niño

>>714847458
Bravo, Miyazaki.

>>714833127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZuzw2TCNSU

>>714858568
Mike Shinoda is a fucking faggot retard that doesn't even understand what Slayer wanted to convey with Angel of Death. Fuck that poser ass fake japanese hipster retard cunt

>>714838306
Double D was autistic.
Ed was retarded.
Eddie was based.

>>714830480 (OP)
Unironically evanescence were great as was a lot of numetal. The hate just came from people finding it white.

The actual problem is that 100% of their songs sound the same, so no-one should still be listening in 2025 or even 2010.

>>714837136
Why? She never seemed particularly BROKEN or FUCKED UP. She was literally always going to get married and have kids.

>>714858568
Hybrid Theory, Reanimation and Meteora are a better trilogy, you can even add Jay-Z collab or Rising Tied as the fourth one if you are schizo enough

>>714858880
He also got super asshurt at the online backlash to One More Light, even though many of the songs were written by industry songwriters, which was lame as fuck.
made all the Linkin Park music, it was like 95% him.

I have no idea why he missed the point of the Nazi imagery so badly when he also praises oldschool rappers that talk about shooting niggas up every other sentence. You'd think he'd be able to apply the same logic and realize there's more nuance to it than just;
"SLAYER TALKING ABOUT NAZIS?! NAZIS ARE BAD! THIS IS BAD!"

He also shat on a bunch of Linkin Park tribute bands for playing Hybrid Theory and 'refusing to acknowledge the growth of the music', which came across like he was just butthurt about the rest of his catalog being recognized less, and he also banned a ton of people from his twitch for asking totally normal questions because he thought they were trying to bring up Chester Bennigton's death again.

Still, Mike Shinoda made some fucking KILLER music. There's absolutely no shortage of delusional autism at the peak of music.

>>714858568
The hate for A Thousand Suns always seems weird to me. I loved it even if it had too much concept filler.

>>714859265
Collision Course? FUCK NO.
Rising Tied is pretty great though. The album closer song is about father abandonment and it is phenomenal. It's called Slip Out The Back and it's killer.

Minutes and ATS are the best duo in Linkin Park's discography IMO

>>714837926

>>714860468
This is the biggest complaint people who actually gave it an honest shot have with it.

There is a ton of interlude/ambient/empty sections of the album that are really spacey and don't have much substance.
A Thousand Suns technically has 15 tracks, but in reality, it only has 9, and only about 5 of those work as standalone songs.
The rest are either straight interludes or compositionally vague enough to be more engraved as an album-centric song that doesn't make any sense on it's own.

>>714858568
I did listen to MtM at the time and although I've soften my stance on it over time, there's just no escaping the fact that it's just not as strong as the first two albums, and it only got worse and more mediocre with each new release. MtM is the beginning of the end for them as far as I'm concerned.

>>714858989
>The actual problem is that 100% of their songs sound the same,
do you have some sort of mental issue?

>>714860838
That's fine. A lot of people hold that opinion as well.

I just really grew with it more and more with each listen. I think the closer is perfect for the album, it nails the vibe of retrospection and beginning anew perfectly.
Chester's singing is the best. I think every track is amazing (except the itunes version of ShadowOfTheDay, which blows ass).
My personal favorites are In Between and the closer.

I doubt you'll come around to it ever, but all I can attest to is my personal investment in it. It's my 2nd all time record, and I've listened to a shit ton of front-to-back albums.

>>714830480 (OP)
I believe I am allowed to be nostalgic about my childhood while acknowledging that it didn't age well and it is corny.

>>714859563
>Mike Shinoda made some fucking KILLER music
can you give me some examples?
My only experience with his work is The Rising Tied and Hybrid Theory (I wanted to step out of my comfort zone and listen to non-anime/video game music in high school in order to be less of an autist, that was 20 years ago lmao)

>>714861426
we all are, OP is just trying to stir shit up with a post like that

>>714861426
>it didn't age well and it is corny.
It's unironically better than modern music.