>comes out next month
>already forgotten
yikes, mgsisters...

>No MGO
No purchase

>>714847049 (OP)
Not buying unrealslop

>>714847049 (OP)
>woke slop
dropped

>>714847049 (OP)
I've already played this game countless times. I'm not spending more money so it can clog up my hard drive. It's the worst of the original 4 anyway so I'm already less likely to replay it.

>>714847049 (OP)
>Virtuos
>UE5slop
It'll run like garbage just like oblivion shitmastered

>>714847049 (OP)
I got called a shill for making a thread talking about it couple days ago

I'm hype but I'm not really posting about it because all you guys do is whine.

>>714847084
>>714847184
>>714847227
NPCs with identical vocabularies

>>714847310
SAAAARRR DO NOT INSULT THE UNREAL ENGINE 5 BENCHOD IT IS A GREAT ENGINE YOU BLOODY BASTARD BLOODY!!!

What are the expectations for DRM? Denuvo?
I havent been buying AAA for almost 10 years now so its hard to guess.

I've played it tons of times. I've 100%'d it multiple times, before trophies/achievements were even a thing. I'm most likely gonna get it anyways once the reviews are out and there are no major issues.

I still don't feel like talking about it because it's current year and people are faggots who will just bitch about real life shit.

>>714847395
Doesn't have any thus far

>>714847395
Eva made uggo
Boss is now a male
Snek got balls removed
Content gone
fuck it
not buying

>>714847049 (OP)
>what if we remade one of the games in the series with least need for a remake?
Why tho? Why not remake MG1 and 2 or some shit? Better yet just get a fucking port of 4 working instead?

>>714847369
insecure and an NPC. what a surprise.

>>714847671
>insecure because stronk and ugly man-face

>>714847084
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_Delta:_Snake_Eater

>Developer: Konami

Maybe there's a small chance of them actually optimizing the game and not having a ton of idiotic graphical things like vignette, depth of field, motion blur, sharpening, and shitty anti-aliasing?

>remake
>of one of the best games of all time, still holds up
its all so tiresome

I don't play remakeslop, not even for one of my favorite games of all time. Make new games.

>>714847310
>>714847671
Good morning sir

>>714847784
They remake stuff that's well received, because they figure no one will give another chance to something that wasn't well received, even if the new version was better in comparison.

>>714847049 (OP)
Just give me a remake of Metal Gear 1 and 2.
C'mon Konami, they are the easiest of all games to make a remake with a ton of new details.

MGS: MC V2 When Konami?

>>714848197
>incomplete buggy slop
dropped

>>714848197
why would they spend a cent porting a worse version of snake eater when they already have two better versions available on modern platforms? @KojiMadara333 is an idiot

>>714848451

the 3ds version is the definitive version tho

>>714847762
>Maybe there's a small chance of them actually optimizing the game
There is, and it helps that the game is still instanced like the first game, so we don't have to deal with typical open world pitfalls like traversal stutter.

>>714847049 (OP)
I would've bought it if it had mgo

>>714848848
Fox Hunt

>>714848893
Fox shit, what about it

>>714847184
The Boss wasn't intended to be sexy. She's a hard, old soldier. You may have had a point if this were Eva.

>>714847049 (OP)
my hate for Konami is much stronger than my love for MGS

I dream of the day they go bankrupt and all the IP is bought by someone who actually cares about their legacy and licenses stuff out to the original devs

soulless ue5 jungle asset flips

>0 sales
>0 current players

MGS triangle bros....................................

>>714847049 (OP)
Waiting for more info on foxhunt to purchase.

PWNED

>>714847049 (OP)
No Kojima, no buy. it's that simple

>>714847049 (OP)
>abandons the Fox Engine and vidya in general for several years
>comes back for remakes for games no one asked for (SH2, MGS3)
>all in shitty UE5
Konami is still a joke

>>714847049 (OP)
Its a port with a new layer of paint. just not that interesting.

>>714853194
walk in da casino konami is all i see. SLOTS 777 CASH MONEY IS ALL KONAMI SEES

>>714847049 (OP)
Will run like shit

>>714853000
Why didn't he just use the survival viewer?

>>714847784
Yeah, they really didn't need to release that remake "Subsistence," Snake Eater wasn't even a year old.

>>714853290

>Konami game
>2025
pass lmao, why would i play a game made by some dogshit slot machine company

>>714849138
FOX HUNT NIGGUH

>>714847049 (OP)
is the bandana painted on his forehead? this is so dumb.

>>714847049 (OP)
Kojima won

>>714847049 (OP)
I hate Snake's face in this remake

From the footage I've seen, the remake has some good use of color and lighting instead of slapping filters and bloom and fog on everything and calling it a day.

>>714854025
>le activism

I play it if its good. you can suck a dick with your tranny activism. go riot and loot or something

>>714854443
I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about
good luck killing yourself tranny obsessed freak

>>714853985
you're right, I preferred playing it with the intended top-down camera (using first person and items to get around visual problems) instead of the boring homogenized 3rd person camera. I bet you love crouch walking too

>>714849689

>>714854076

>>714854443
you gey

>>714857153
I mean charlotte rampling was never sexy, not even when she did full frontal

>>714857442
no male jaw
looks like a lady

>>714857442
>never sexy

>>714857612
i coom, boss

>already forgotten about
>OP makes thread aboutit

just how many times were you droppped on your head as a kid

>>714847784
skibidi rizzlers don`t wanto play an old ahh grandpa game for the fucking Playstaion ah 2 sheeesh thats ancient shit, old man. SKIBIDI

>>714857664
boss, you got titties and no dick

>>714847049 (OP)
meh. i'll just watch my oshi play it. dont feel the need to buy an HD skin

>>714857749
Kill yourself

>>714857612
admittedly I don't watch 60s shit but she's never not looked like a tranny in the movies I've seen

>>714857742
meanwhile in remilk

>>714847049 (OP)
>We can't remake MGO, a team shooter, in today's multiplayer landscape full of team shooters more popular than ever before in human history
>So please instead enjoy a new multiplayer mode instead! (It's just Snake vs Goon Team from MGO1 again)
I'm still irate

>>714848197
>they still think they are getting MGS4
You will get MGS portable Ops, MGS Peace Walker and maybe Ghost Babel
MGS4 would need to be remade from the ground up or it will never leave the PS3

PHYSINT IS METAL GEAR

>>714847049 (OP)
as a first time player is there any reason to play delta over original mgs3? like yeah it has more realistic graphics, but the PS2 graphics look more soulful to me

>>714858368
It has MGS5 controls and and more QOL.

>>714858368
It has MGS5 controls and more QOL.

>>714858215
They had a working Xbox 360 port back in 2007. The only reason it didn't come out is that it would have been spread across three or four DVDs.

>>714847435
I hate needles

>>714858215
>MGS portable Ops, MGS Peace Walker and maybe Ghost Babel
they would be laughed out of the room. seriously there can't be a V2 without mgs4, it's preposterous.

>>714857890
Fucking hilarious when the pachinko ver looks better than the actual AAA remake

>>714860506
these shits always have amazing cutscenes for some reason

>>714847227
reminder that MGSV was also co-developped bye virtuos, anti UE5 tourists really don't know shit

>>714860506
what's hilarious, that was fucking CGI you idiot

>>714859859
>They had a working Xbox 360 port back in 2007.
People keep overhyping this story so hard.
They had a version of the game running on 360. In all likelihood, it was an early test build that was just a stripped down version of Metal Gear Arcade's assets.

>>714857304
ay caramba ai needs to be stopped

I'm getting it, you have skill issue.

If they confirm mgo is part of the game and it at all resembles the original then it’s an instant buy.

>>714847049 (OP)
Its UE5. Its gonna suck performance wise.

>>714857563
Her jaw is huge

>>714867729
So is my boner.

>>714847049 (OP)
>yikes, mgsisters...
no native keyboard and mous support, controller slop despite MGS V being fully possible to use both without issues
I guess it is safe to skip this and play the original on an old console.
at least the faces don't look troonish there.

>>714863664
>I know better than people actually working on the game
ok

MGS3 is way more fun without the tranq gun.

thoughts?

>>714867920
All the Metal Gear games are

>>714868224
>>714867920
>just sneak close and cqc + interrogate + nap
>this is better than tranq darts
half of the npcs have nothing interesting to share

>>714861814
And MGS5 was dogshit trash. Thanks for confirming.

>>714868506
nigger opinion

>>714868337
Use poison food or roll+cqc them. Or stab them with knife(fuck no kill runs)

>>714868634
Someone with tastes more like. Only non MGS players like V.

itll be fun to do a playthrough of this again

So what comes after this? MGS1 or Peace Walker? Are they going in chronological order? I assume if this does well enough they're gonna go back and do more UE remasters of the rest of the series as well.

Not playing regardless.

Which way /v/?

Its effectively the exact same game as the PS3 HD collection version but with updated graphics and very minor gameplay changes like crouch walking. Its not like the Resident Evil Remakes where its a brand new game.

>>714867818

>>714869040
MGS1 already has the gamecube remake. Maybe MGS2.

>>714869663
correct

>>714847216
>It's the worst of the original 4

Lol based, I never understood the cocksucking /v/ gave this game. Tedious to play.

>original game is "Metal Gear Solid 3"
>remake is called "Metal Gear Solid Delta"
>Delta is the FOURTH letter of the Greek alphabet
Am I a brainlet? (I'm fully prepared to accept that.) Why is this not called Metal Gear Solid Gamma?

>>714869917
the shape

new gameplay video-thingy
https://nitter.net/metalgear_jp/status/1942539164924232135

>>714847049 (OP)
Tranny gear basedlid has no cultural relevancy, because the games themselves do not hold. Shit tops out at 8/10 if I’m being generous. Most are 6/10 or below. When the highlight of your “game” is literally cutscenes or dialogue in non-gameplay sections your series might be a little fucking dogshit

>>714861852
>that was fucking CGI you idiot

What are video games

>>714869917
it's the 3rd Ancient Greek letter.

>>714870045
Ok tendie

>>714870032
So call it MGS Triangle or Menage-a-Trois or something.
>>714870239
There's an "Ancient Greek Alphabet" as well? That's bullshit. Fucking Greeks. I'll kill them all.

>>714847083
retard

>>714847049 (OP)
it actually looks awesome look at this clip, if you hate this you hate metal gear full stop

https://x.com/metalgear_jp/status/1942539164924232135

>>714870173
real time graphics are you really that dense?

>>714870040
tweet not found

>>714870579
Hmm... this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.

>>714847049 (OP)
would it be more popular among zoomers if snake could crossdress as tranny?

>>714870835
there was a video just now I saw it 5 minutes ago the hell

>>714847184
Actual face blindness to compare her to Charlie Sheen.

>>714847049 (OP)
I'm waiting for them to remake the first one, personally.

>>714871090
I opened the link again and it works now for some reason

>>714871240
1 and 2 are never getting remakes because Konami is actually shit scared about the plagiarism problem regarding the theme songs.

>>714871298
delta i think is keeping it though

>>714871298
But its plagiarism from Russians. The west can just ignore them. Just don't release the game in Russia.

>>714869289
whichever is on PC

>>714871379
MGS3 has a snippet of the theme song from 1 and 2, and that you can get away with. It becomes a problem when it's an entire ensemble.

>>714871009
works to me

>>714867828
No, I actually just read past a couple clickbait headlines.
They wouldn't, as you and many others imply, have a fully featured and functioning version of MGS4 on 360. In all likelihood, they had a facsimile of it a la MG Arcade running on the 360.
That's not an actual port, that's just more like... the idea of a port.

>>714847049 (OP)
Right now Im mor excited about playing the GOTY (Bananza), but Im getting Delta at some point this year

ahah soldiers go fly

>>714857365
Fuck… did they really do this?
This is how she looks now?
Another game down the drain

>>714872141
Anon keep up, the face was changed after feedback months ago.

>>714847784
I don’t like stopping what I’m doing to shoot

I don’t like the weird camera and having to go into first person to shoot precisely

I don’t like not being able to move while in the crouched stance

stop pretending like MGS 1-3 aren’t unplayably janky by the standards of today. I tried to play these games but I could just tell it’s some dated boomer shit and watched them on youtube instead

>>714872241
Show me

>>714872141
>>714872241
>>714872503
I'm not sure if it was changed or if it was just very poor unfinished lighting but she definitely looks better now

>>714871773
>No, I actually just read past a couple clickbait headlines.
>They wouldn't, as you and many others imply, have a fully featured and functioning version of MGS4 on 360.
I have been posting the actual fucking quotes by MGS4's assistant producer for fucking years, dumbass.

>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits.
>Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.

>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware.
>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.

>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.

https://mega.nz/file/scVgxLQJ#cIC_4qxr8yIgKs7mqLXwaAgs2LQrPNdRd0pNcqLNWnc

>>714872562
lol Kojimbo doesn’t even need to get paid to be a Snoy fanboy he just does it for free

Mgs3 is one of most overrated obnoxious unfun pieces of shit i have ever played. Both the original and the 3rd person rerelease.
I genuinely don’t get the appeal, splinter cell was always so much better as a game.
Mgs2 is more fun and wackier which is what i think people like from mgs

>>714872746
It's obvious he has a very close relationship with Sony, I mean he's still working with them on Physint even though he now own all of his games

>>714870651
So what you meant to say was pretty rendered video

>>714872116
>stealth game

>>714847083
Is there really no mgo1? Didn’t they shut that down like several months in the lifespan of mgs3 lol. Its like a multiplayer mode they didn’t want anyone to play

>>714872562
Yeah, and you're the fucking retard who sees one line and goes "ZOMG ALL OF MGS4 WAS ON THE XBAWKS!!!!!"
In reality, "Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly" just means they had the engine running, likely utilizing, again, existing assets for Metal Gear Arcade which was intended for a Windows OS already. They didn't port the whole fucking thing.

>>714873152
A guy told me MGO1 was more like some test, MGO2 was already the final goal.
>>714847083
There's still that new multiplayer thing though, could still be cool maybe

>>714872116
oh no you can use shotguns just like in any other metal gear games

>>714872881
Going away from modern day spy setting did it for me. I didn't want to be olden days setting. The game being annoying to play didn't help either.

>>714873260
>They didn't port the whole fucking thing.
no shit, doesn't invalidate the fact they got it working on 360 and your
>MGS4 would need to be remade from the ground up or it will never leave the PS3
shit is retarded

>>714871090
Maybe you're seeing things...

>>714873053
and you can use illimited resources, polygons, effects and adjust lighting as you want in each frame

>Fathers are... LE BAD: The Video Game Series

>>714873532
>no shit, doesn't invalidate the fact they got it working on 360 and your
Likely utilizing the already existing assets for Metal Gear Arcade, which was designed for Windows.
>>MGS4 would need to be remade from the ground up or it will never leave the PS3
Didn't say that, but honestly? Yeah it would.
For a start, who knows how much shit is tied to its inconsistent framerate, RAY vs REX runs at like 20FPS, the main game at 30-45, certain sections at 15. Will the Act 3 motorcycle chase even be playable if they up it to 60FPS?
All the commercial FMVs are trapped in 720p and used real actors, and knowing Konami's history of contracts that is sure to be a shitshow to bring over.
The game itself does actually utilize unique PS3 hardware- sixaxis is an occasional mechanic and the PSX emulation is used for the opening of Act 4. The former could be replicated with gyro, but the latter would require hooking in a new emulator or cutting it altogether.
All the Apple branding would have to go, which means picking over every mission briefing and completely changing the iPod. Would have to re-examine the music and ensure they still have the licenses for third party tracks, or they might just cut the iPod entirely.

It's an endless list of shit that would need to be cleared or changed, and such a ginormous headache that I cannot imagine it being sold for $40 as part of a low-effort HD collection. The last Master Collection had basically no effort whatsoever put into it in regards to the games themselves, so I cannot imagine how or why MGS4 would be the one game to get the special treatment. I'd sooner anticipate a remake they could sell at full price.

>>714870365
Yeah the Greeks didn't have a letter C. They just used K instead.

>>714873942
It was last year but I think the producer actually said Vol2 will have much more work put into it and will have games which never got a remaster before, the guy also was really pissed at vol1 releasing the way it did (Perhaps there was some stuff behind the scene)

Did not care for the big boss dick riding decade this spawned. one or two games would be fine but it never ended like he wanted to make big boss the new main character and cuck solid out of his own series. same character model, same voice actor for some reason, so it's literally just solid snake but actually we're in the 60s-80s and all the weapons are crappy cold war era weapons and Russia bad again

>>714873942
>Likely utilizing the already existing assets for Metal Gear Arcade, which was designed for Windows.
retard, Payton left Konami after MGS4 release, MG Arcade came out 1 month prior to 2011.
>Didn't say that, but honestly? Yeah it would.
>For a start, who knows how much shit is tied to its inconsistent framerate, RAY vs REX runs at like 20FPS, the main game at 30-45, certain sections at 15.
Kojimbo boasted that game would run at 60 fps prior to release and we already know it runs well at 60 fps when emulated.
>All the commercial FMVs are trapped in 720p and used real actors
How did that stop Delta from releasing and reusing the voice lines? You dumbasses always claim there's some license shit and somehow they end up with re-releasing them every time.
>The game itself does actually utilize unique PS3 hardware- sixaxis
Literal gimmick. The only thing that is actually limited to sixaxis is octocamo reset for no reason, and jiggle physics. Anything else can be done on analog. You retards would pretend that MGS3 in undoable on any modern console due to pressure sensitive controls.
>PSX emulation is used for the opening of Act 4.
Can you guess what they used for MGS1 in Master Collection on all platforms?
>All the Apple branding would have to go
More irrelevant license shit that can be replaced in a day or two.

>>714874529
>Kojimbo boasted that game would run at 60 fps prior to release and we already know it runs well at 60 fps when emulated.
Forcing the game to 60FPS in an emulator is not the same as it actually being made to run at 60FPS.
>How did that stop Delta from releasing and reusing the voice lines?
Stopped Delta from reusing stock footage actually.
Hell, adjacent to Metal Gear, the first three SH games literally cannot be rereleased due to Konami not even owning the voice acting in them. So yeah, I would anticipate them bungling the sole game to use live actors.
>You retards would pretend that MGS3 in undoable on any modern console due to pressure sensitive controls.
Both it and MGS2 were made significantly worse by the lack of them, yeah.
>Can you guess what they used for MGS1 in Master Collection on all platforms?
Yeah, but now they have to hook that emu into MGS4. That's the issue.
>More irrelevant license shit that can be replaced in a day or two.
Sure buddy.

Even if one were to believe your idea that ALL of this could be done in a single day, that would still be FAR MORE EFFORT than the entire first volume received.

>New enemy radio not from the original game
https://youtu.be/owt0NVl-Fzs?feature=shared&t=17
>EVA voice actress said she recorded new lines for the game
There's something sus going on here, they just are hiding it

>>714875142
I'm amazed by how much you people are so convinced that companies hate money so much, they would refuse to do anything more than press the magical port to X button

>>714875326
I'm actually convinced that they love money so much that they would rather put that effort into just doing a remake and selling a single game for $80, instead of it being part of a collection for $40.

>>714875527
MGS4 is in vol2, It has to.
What else could be in it? PO? Rising? PW?

>>714853000
I haven't seen this in years.

>>714875648
The following could all be included in Volume 2 with justification and minimal effort required:
>Revengeance
Has a fully featured PC version, not on any modern platforms.
>Peace Walker HD
Was already in HDC, not on any modern platforms or PC.
>Metal Gear Solid V
Not on Switch 2, and they can further justify it by including the artbook and scrapped Episode 51 bonus disc.
>Ac!d 1&2 + PO
PSP emulation.
>Ghost Babel
GBC emulation.
>Twin Snakes
This is the big iffy one since I don't think GCN emulation has ever been done for a major release. I can easily see it being skipped if there's no emulation / no resources that make porting it easy.
>Mobile Titles
Easily emulated.

There you go.

>>714867818
>no native keyboard and mous support
For fuck sake, that's the only fucking reason to release a PC port of these games, if I wanted to replay MGS3 with a controller again I'd boot up a PS2 emulator and just play the fucking game again.

>>714875527
why did they re-release MGS3 just to remake it again?

>>714876108
Because the rerelease of MGS3 cost nothing to do. They changed pretty much nothing from the latest version of MGS3 HDC, including the fucking logos.

>>714847084
>>714847184
Die, thirdies.

>>714876173
so the licensed shit they changed suddenly doesn't count

ok

>>714876606
>so the licensed shit they changed suddenly doesn't count
Such as?
If you mean the stock footage, that was a flat payment they could easily redo because it was stock footage.

>>714867818
>>714875906
hm MGS3 on PC HAS a native keyboard and mouse controls, you can even customize everything, pretty sure it was released a while ago too. Are people simply not doing their own research and just repeat what they heard?

>>714876689
but changing mac model with generic laptop would cost billions of dollars

>>714876173
they actually patched a lot of bugs from the HD collection and made the visuals closer to the original game as HD had a lot of little issues
They kept the logo because it still wasn't a brand new remaster but a modified HD collection instead.

>>714876868
>they actually patched a lot of bugs from the HD collection
Because those bugs were ones already patched from the Nvidia Shield versions of the HDC.
>They kept the logo because it still wasn't a brand new remaster but a modified HD collection instead.
Dude, even the loading screens use the "METAL GEAR SOLID HD COLLECTION" logo, they just dumped the PC build of the HDC into a launcher.
>>714876821
Considering how prevalent it is in cutscenes, there are likely several laptop models that would need to be edited, alongside other Apple promotion that's just lingering in the game.

>>714877080
No anon, there was a lot of brand new patches, I'm pretty sure they are listed somewhere, but the master collection actually changed a lot of little details
it's just still a modified HD collection, that's why it's still called HD in the loading screen, it's not an entirely brand new remaster.

>>714877080
yes, MGS4 was 30GB of laptops alone

and Nvidia Shield ports were different from PS3/PS4/360/Xbone/PC
only Switch uses Shield-based ports, since it has Shield specific bugs

>>714877320
It's probably also why it's locked to 30 fps, the Shield version was the same. Doesn't the Shield and Switch shares a lot of components? The Switch version also always had updates a bit after the others

>>714877080
Why did Sony allow Apple shit in the game when they made phones, Walkman and laptops back then?

>>714877501
Apple wasn't as big, remember this was before the Iphone boom.

>>714877469
Switch is Shield

>>714877574
>release date 2008

Fuck

>>714877501
>>714877501
Because no one could make an MP3 player worth a damn. The iPod was king at the time for a reason.

>>714847049 (OP)
The series is done anon, Kojima left and it has an actual ending. Just ignore MGSV because pretty much everyone else does. I dont know why a series needsbto keep going forever, the story is done. Theyvcan make another political thriller stealth game if they really want.

>>714878161
appledrones are a hoot

>>714878161
There plenty of mp3 players but Apple normyfied it with iTunes. I was downloading tons of music a decade before that.

>>714878371
Outside of the iPod, I don't own a single Apple product.

>>714870394
Fox Hunt isn't MGO.

>>714878579
alright well i'll simplify it for you, it can be very difficult for casual users to properly format their own files for use any where, apple simplifies this by locking everything down so the 5 things they let you access work properly
this means for any retard, apple's great, but for any power user, it's shit
the ipod is no different, hope this helps

>>714877574
>Apple wasn't as big
Newfags don't remember that the PSP was an iPod competitor.

>>714847216
It's quite literally the only good mgs game

>>714875861
very funny
you will get a badly emulated mgs4, ms5-slop and thats it

>>714876868
>little issues
>little

>>714879545
>>little issues

>>714879545
>>little issues
>>little
Blue Hair are hacks

>>714879731
this was fixed in master I believe, no?
But yeah, HD actually wasn't that good of a job, I never really got why it kept being praised as one of the being remaster ever made
It's the kind of issues you don't really get if you didn't played the original but then becomes instantly noticeable if you do. Maybe more people just played HD than the OGs

I'm 38 and never played the metal gear games. Should I bother getting into this series?

>>714881261
Nah it sucks.

>>714881261
yes but skip the cutscenes

>>714881014
Crap "the best remaster", not "the being remaster" I'm not sure why I wrote that

>>714847049 (OP)
Demake

>>714881014
i liked it for the better performance and its version of pw was a huge improvement over the original with its controls

>>714872494
>unplayably janky

Just shut the fuck up you retarded zoomie nigger. Holy shit with your soft hands.

>>714847184
My only problem was that initially they appeared to give EVERY character they showed Asiatic features, like Korea face, but I think they fixed it?
The rest is just raw skill and the problems with hand modeling realistic characters that don't look like dolls. There's a reason everybody cops out with face scanning live people these days.

Cast a Metal Gear movie. I’ve been thinking Charlize Theron would make a good Boss.

>>714847084
Why not? They turned Final Fantasy into unityslop and it sold like hotcakes

>>714881660
PW HD wasn't made by Bloober, in Japan it even was sold outside of the collection as it released before, in mid 2011.

>>714847049 (OP)
>comes out next month
huh, it came out 20 years ago

>>714848197
The Deck is just barely capable of emulating MGS 4 now. I already finished it again. Just emulate them all because even the HD versions have problems. They didn't even try for the MGS 1 emulation. The og MSX versions of MG 1 and 2 with the fan translations are also better.

>>714881941
Bloober, WHY did I say bloober... BLUEPOINT

>>714882058
Better question is why you put a spoiler tag for something so benign

>>714881261
I played it for the first time at 35 last year
It's a fun trip down nostalgia mood, playing PS1/2 games for the first time. Also I only played Death Stranding before so I was 100% new on Kojima. It was a pleasant surprise but it did get old and janky. 1 was fun if you manage to get back into "old time mood" and forget its flaws. 2 was incredibly based and fun despite some of the most ridiculous dialogs ever. I didn't like 3 that much but the characters are cool. No matter my opinion they're worth your time just so you can understand why they have that "classic aura" around them and forge your own opinion.

>>714882182
I dunno

>>714859859
That anons screen also shows why it cant be done.

Theres a lot of product placement, some of that integral to the plot. In order to have a chance for that port to make it, you would need to edit out large portions of content, and redub lines. Which is impossible now given how all the dev teams are out.

What new Secret Theater you think they will do? There should be between 3 and 6 new made ones

>>714882460
There's still guys from the old team still there, they just are getting older

>>714847049 (OP)
it's realisticslop with no soul.
the original color filters should be FORCED on.

>>714882686
Anon it's still available so really, it's for you to decide to use it or not.
I think it's also on by default when playing legacy mode.

>>714847049 (OP)
Cutscenes have literally the same animations of the ps2 vwrsion
Fuck no I'm not spending shit on something so lazy

>>714881261
just don't take it too seriously. The nuggets of faux intellectualism are overshadowed by Power Rangers-tier character writing but that's part of the charm.

It's a Japanese anime that draws plays on Western movie tropes and culture. Metal Gear Solid 1 on PlayStation is particularly good on presentation, has the best English acting of the whole series and it all goes down hill from there.

I really recommend emulating MGS 1 on duckstation because the version in the MC/HD collection is adulterated. The old PC native port of it is also vastly inferior with a lot of stuff left broken. The remake on GC also a mixed bag with absolutely garbage voice acting and broken mechanics and some shitty graphics, but better AI and overall better gameplay.

>>714883760
tbf these were mocap done by real people

>>714871510
undoubtedly both after a simple hex edit

>>714883760
same animations don't work with different models all of them had to be remade

Since the multiplayer mode is using guns from 5, Could it means it be taking place at a different time than the story? But why would they have soldiers looking like Snake and russians soldiers...

>>714847049 (OP)
Why would I play this slop if the original is still likely to be better?

>>714883937
New way to play an old favorite? Hard to say since it hasn't come out yet but it might be fun

>>714883937
Mr. Hayter is a pretty nice guy and he would like those royalties. We may also get a native PC version of MGS 4 if we buy it hard enough but by then your phone can just emulate the original.

>>714878286
>Kojima left
you can't convince me konami can't find young talented director in his twenties with big dreams and ambitions. I would give such person a task to remake the first mgs, not 1:1 but to reinvent the whole thing from the ground up while creating new canon for next generation of players and anime enjoyers (mgs1 was largely anime coded). it's absolutely doable but is konami willing to take such risk?

>>714884251
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/does-metal-gear-solid-need-a-new-kojima-konami-have-many-people-in-mind-but-its-difficult
"So in terms of someone to sort of replace that creative director role, there isn't really a single person that has taken over," Okamura told me through a translator. "But rather, we've created this new Metal Gear Solid team - we've got a great team full of young new creative minds, a very talented team that are currently working on this game together.
"And within this team there are many people that we think in the future as well could definitely be people like that, who could create these new ideas, have these creative visions, and this is definitely a team that we would like to develop and grow into roles like that. But there isn't a specific person that has taken over, necessarily, it's much more of a team effort."
Okamura himself seems like he might have the knowhow to cover it, having worked with Kojima on a bunch of Metal Gear Solid games and Zone Of The Enders, but as he went on to explain, the particular blend of designer chops and salesmanship embodied by Kojima is hard to replicate. "With his game design, he's very particular about very detailed aspects of what he creates. He's also very good at just creating a product and selling that product and knowing how to promote that product from start to finish. And to find someone like that, who is good at all of those things in the same capacity, is quite difficult. So it's not like we can just go and find someone else that can do all of the same things, and it's not something that I think I could do by myself.
"Obviously we have a lot of respect towards his creative vision," Okamura added. "And in terms of our new team, we'd like to create these games in our own way with our own talented team that we have, with our own creative ideas for the current generation of fans, and the next generation of fans as well."

>>714872116
>using literally the same animations from 2004
Why?

Would you suck and fuck Raikov?

>>714884820
I don't think these are the same animations, they are just based on the same reference.
They said they wanted to be very faithful after all. But I don't think it's the actual same. the only animations which are the same are the main cutscenes, old footage also had a few things from V

>>714884912
Volgin...

>>714869834
>"Lol based I never understood why I'm retarded."
And you're proud of that?

>>714881261
Play Revengeance and that's it.

>>714882225
>>714883763
Thank you

>>714882460
>>714858215
>"i-it can't be done! there's literally SEVERAL lines of dialogue that references specific products!"

they can be removed and nothing really would be lost

>>714847049 (OP)
How many times can you buy the same game? Make something new.

>>714872881
A lot of people don't remember but i do. MGS2 was not well received because of the whackiness, the graphics, the bosses, the level, no snake and the weird story, MGS3 on the other hand was considered a fukken masterpiece. Both are fine, honestly MGS was good until 4 started blending the line between action/stealth.

>>714858368
It might include new things, new modes, new costumes, new MP, etc. Play mgs3 subsistence before it releases, it's worth it and it doesn't look like UE5 garbo.

I was lurking and I saw someone talking about that,and it has being bugging me since I saw it yesterday
WHY does Big Boss has scars on his face?Big Boss shouldn't have scars on his face. Every other characters looks the same, so why does Snake have this? Once you notice it it's too late you can't unsee it

>>714886873
remember how sh2r wasn't actually a remake, it was a stealth sequel?
let's just say that might not be naked ;)

>>714886980
Please do not MGS5 me again

>>714885784
Yes it would, and even if it wouldnt, you would still to redub, you just cant cut them out.

>>714847597
because 3 is the popular one and they want to make money

>>714887167
Redub isn't really complicated though, it can still be done
did it had any really important codec mentioning this though? I thought it was only some fairly optional ones, which could easily be cut

>>714886873
>>714886980
>Battle Damage System Inflicts Permanent Scars: Injuries reflect in real-time, with the scars "telling a story of each player's unique journey through the game," per Konami.

https://gamingbolt.com/metal-gear-solid-delta-snake-eaters-battle-damage-system-inflicts-permanent-scars

>>714887671
i hope they let you get stuck with shrapnel so i can get blown up by grenades until i can roleplay the entire game as venom

>>714887514
MGS3 is the least popular one

>>714847310
I'm not reading that slop

>>714887671
Alright so I just verified, to be sure as shit, and the scars are there even in the virtuous mission teaser they have shown, it's there by default

>>714884547
obviously haven't tried hard enough, this all reads like PR 101 stroking kojima's big ego and reinforcing his personality cult among masses. that young talent who will be capable of rebooting the whole franchise is right there in japan, is konami willing to take the leap of faith? don't be pussies and just do it.

>>714887854
Makes me a bit curious on what "My favorite game is MGSV" will gives you at the start of the game

>>714875906
Why the fuck would you want to play these games with KB+M you mongoloid cringe niggers

>>714888382
>I like MGSV!
>the boss's horse shits on you after she kicks your ass

>>714887896
Imagine believing that when the MSX games exist. Or the Acid games.

>>714887896
Prove it

>>714888370
Sooner or later I guess it will have to happen, perhaps they want the new people to have a bit more experience first

>>714888571
k
>>714888535
Ac!d and Ac!d 2 are spinoffs, MSX is not MGS

>>714888382
I hope they refine those choices. Choosing MGS1 only netted you a stamina increase for the Virtuous Mission which once you know what you're doing is over in 5 to 10 minutes. At least the MGS2 choice gave you a laugh with the Raiden mask reveal.

>>714888684
>twin sneks
KWAB

>>714847049 (OP)
how are they not embarrassed to have their AI texturer give his headband forehead wrinkles

>>714888684
these charts probably are missing a lot of sales like all the re-releases
But I'm surprised Portable did better than Peace Walker, initially at least

>>714888684
Feels good that the best MGS has sold the most ngl

>>714888982
The best MGS is the original one for the PSX though

>>714888864
Anon this was decided a long time ago by Shinkawa, they are just keeping what he asked

>>714888946
you always have to remember all the people that would have theoretically bought peace walker, but didn't because they bought portable ops and it was so terrible it turned them off the concept of psp mgs
goes for any of these series sales charts

>>714847084
Where are you in the expedition 33 threads? Do you have no balls?

>>714889112
Portable had some good reviews by everyone in 2006, and Peace did sell very well in Japan, more than Portable which still did pretty good there too
the big thing is that Peace simply didn't sell well in the western world, it's why Miller also was removed from the GZ box art

>>714888479
>why would you want to play a game with a manually controllable camera on an interface that has historically proven to be the best way to play these sorts of games?
Gee retard-kun, no fucking clue, you tell me.

>>714888684
>MGS1 does insanely well in 98
>an unbelievable amount of hype for the sequel
>MGS2 comes out and is more of an art game
>average consumer is turned off
>release another game that panders to the audience that wanted a straightforward game
>they're already checked out after 2
>over the years 3 gains a reputation for being the best one online
>sales will never reflect it
I'm betting MGS3 is way more popular on things like the HD Collection and Master Collection

>>714847083
>>714847084
I wonder who gives a fuck about this game when the originals are already ported for almost every single console since ps2? I mean I do give a fuck enough to check what it looks like on youtube but like buying this game?

>>714889248
ok? everyone i know that bought portable ops immediately experienced it being 15fps with terrible controls and they never touched peace walker
no amount of reviews changes experiences like that

>>714889354
MGS3 released fairly late in the PS2 life, just before the 360, so yeah I think most MGS3 players played it on later consoles

>>714889396
Portable was well received enough by people at the time, I know because I remember reading about that looking at game reviews on websites
It had plenty of little annoying things, but they were deemed acceptable at the time

>>714847049 (OP)
anyone worth their salt who cares about video games past surface level already finished MGS3 years and years ago. there's quite literally nothing to say about it

>>714889618
idk how you can't fathom that people that buy something and don't like it largely just remain silent and write the series off
>dude but reviews
yea retard, people see reviews, buy game, game's shit, they don't get tricked on next game, this is pretty simple stuff

I have played this game a million times and from what I read this game will have very sleight differences so that's not worth it to me

>>714889870
I'm not just talking about pro reviews, I am also talking about player reviews
japanese people also gave it good reviews, and peace sold well there

>>714890105
bro is like "yea man 100% of steam players review games they don't like"
please eat breakfast tomorrow

>>714890105
PSP zealots

>>714853985
It at least had multiplayer and three discs of content like first ever release of the original mg1+2 in the west. The third disc iirc was pretty useless but it was the game made into a movie you could watch but that was before youtube had "game movies".

>>714890449
It be funny if the remake brought the movie back, they did say they still have a few new additional modes to reveal, what else could it be?

>>714847184
>>714857365
>>714857890
>>714860506
Not the final model you faggots.

>>714867818
>>714869663
>>714869791
You're retarded if you think Eve looks bad here.

>>714886980
>sh2r
Silent Hill 2 remake?

>>714847049 (OP)
Because once you remove the backtracking, the empty areas, the codec calls and cutscenes, it's about 2 hours of gameplay at most

>>714847310
>>714876605
ywnbaw

>>714891849
I would say closer to 4/6 hours

>>714891849
Gladly mgs3 has very little backtracking tho you pass twice thru certain areas. You almost always just head north and never have to backtrack in the jungle to find some arbitrary stuff or easy to miss items.

>>714847049 (OP)
>2004
I played that game 21 years ago. I even bought Subsistence later. They should be giving me this for free.

>>714894659
You small fry, I knew a guy who bought the pachinko

What will replace guy savage?

>>714894742
I remember seeing that and being disgusted by Konami. like 15 years later its funny how things changed. After so much gacha and seeing the industry turn into what it has, I'd line up to buy one too.

it's the only game I'm waiting for this year

>>714894891
It wasn't replaced by anything in later releases after the original one but maybe some other demo.

yeah i am not paying 80€ for that. i stick with the og, thanks

>>714872494
>I don’t like stopping what I’m doing to shoot
you can run while holding your gun out in the original, though? actual braindead underage b&

having david hayter makes it more of a real mgs game than having kojima would

>>714873152
metal gear online was cool when I played it one time at one friend's house who was the only one out of our huge group of friends who had the ps2 modem attachment, which I think summarizes why it failed.

>>714882465
>The guy who handled the original secret theater is the cutscene director of the remake
>Look who did it
>"Lead Artist:Masaya Kobayashi"
>Look him up
>"Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance:Cutscene Director"

Expect KINO for any new cutscenes

>>714895737
I think the og games let you run with your gun drawn if you press the right buttons but the first person requires you to stand still.

>>714896118
If i'm not mistaken, you could "blind fire" straight in front of you that way, but you couldn't really aim while moving.
3ds version had a rudimentary third person camera though it was more based on PW, and also a "auto-aim" camera.
The remake has a V inspired camera and aiming system.

>>714847084
Runs on my $3k machine.

>>714896118
>>714896441
If you held L1 and Square lightly you could run and gun, pressing Square a little harder to shoot. He pretty much auto locked onto whoever was in front of you, made obvious by the red dot sights on most guns, so it wasn't really blind fire

Is peace walker worth playing or is it a weird spinoff like Acid?

>>714896842
Peace Walker is a main entry, it's very important, it's not some optional spin off

>>714896842
the gameplay is very close to the original games, but iirc it has a mission based system similar to MGSV. still a fun game, i'd say its worth a run