which is more boring?

At least Death Stranding has a novel premise and experimental mechanics to justify its plodding pace. RDR2 is just a boiler plate Western with an obscene budget. It's got tedious animations because fuck you.

I have no interest in delivering packages so I can only spear of RDR2 and have come into this thread to call >>714850123 a culture-less fag.

Weirdly probably Red Dead 2
When you actually get to play the game it's fine
But it has so many on-rails sections that just drag on forever
At least with the walking sim I'm still playing the game most of the time.
It's not the most exciting gameplay but I'm actually doing the gameplay outside of cutscenes

>>714849878 (OP)
Death Stranding is extremely fun, so RDR2.

Both are great games, but I played DS1 last, so RDR2.

>>714850223
This

>>714849878 (OP)
>one of the best selling video games of all time
it's gotta be that, r-right /v/?

>>714850203
Fuck you. If you want a good Western, watch the Dollars trilogy. If you want a good game, don't play glorified rail shooters.

>>714849878 (OP)
>FAILED: You mounted the wrong horse
>FAILED: You killed the guy you were chasing to kill before the hecking cutscene
>FAILED: You moved 5 cm away from the specified area you are supposed to slowly walk in

RDR2 is barely a game

>>714849878 (OP)
Death Stranding, you have to mod the shit out of it to fix all of kojimas retarded things like road building, inventory autism and grindy as fuck mechanics

>>714849878 (OP)
tell me you have ADHD without telling me you have ADHD

>>714850515
>the Dollars trilogy as a kneejerk response
goddamn pleb, watch High Noon

>>714850806

nigga they're just boring

>>714850806
>I like travelling to checkpoints for 70 hours
Tell me you have autism without telling me you have autism

They're both shit but RDR2. At least the core gameplay in Eat Standing is responsive.

>>714850564
>oh noooooo, the main story which is like 10% of the game forces you to follow the plot! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

RDR2 is literally a single hours worth of gameplay repeated over 100 hours. The amount of horseriding is ridiculous

>>714851023
That argument would almost work if the main story wasn't forced upon you.
Large chunks of the game can't even be accessed until you progress far enough in the story.

>>714849878 (OP)
Unironically RDR2. Cutscenes and Norman Reedus shitting himself is entertaining in DS unlike RDR2's anything.

>>714851768
It's also a R* game. There is nothing to do in the open world except on rails, linear story.

>>714849878 (OP)
RDR2 is for woke faggots

Remember when this dude absolutely vivisected RDR2 whilst sitting on a big ball

>>714852145
There are 31 side missions and 114 unique random encounters, each with 2-4 different ways you can choose to deal with them. That's more than any other RPG.

>>714852528
>watching troontubers

>>714852858
>114 unique random encounters, each with 2-4 different ways you can choose to deal with them. That's more than any other RPG
AC Valhalla copied that too and it's around the same number. AC Valhalla also has tons of activities to do in open world such as river raids, hunting for assassin bureaus, pillaging settlements, building your own settlement etc. Not saying AC Valhalla is a better game than RDR2 but R* open worlds had like no content besides open world itself and main story for years.

>>714849878 (OP)
death stranding is fun for the entire game while rdr2 is only fun in chapter 3.

>>714850123
>novel premise
sure but there aren't that many actual western games except for...RDR1 ?

>>714852528
>I get all my opinions from youtube essays
lol

>>714853795
>I get all my opinions from /v/
lmao

>>714853795
is he wrong? no he isn't and if you'd watched the video you would know that, dumb zoomer

>>714853795
For shitty games like RDR2 that I'll never play? Correct

>>714854054
>/v/tard
>talking about video games they've never played
classic

>>714854054
ok let's say you watched all of the cutscenes on youtube (i doubt it). you still missed the other 95% of the experience.

>>714854197
Correct. I don't need to have played it to know it sucks. The video I referenced demonstrated that, and you can't refute it on any level, hence you are a faggot. I don't make the rules

>>714854537
do you realize how retarded you sound?

>>714854054
>>714854537
>i never have and never will play this game...but i know more about it than you, and it's a BAD GAME !
This is basically like 90% of /v/, which is why i never listen to anything said "seriously" here. Only coomer and off-topic threads are good.

>>714854719
>you've never eaten shit? then how can you say it tastes like shit??

That's you btw^

>>714854880
eating shit is a little bit different from playing a video game, but sure...keep making that comparison which i am sure is original and not taken from other bright minds like yours

>>714853919
>is he wrong
I don't doubt it RDR2 is fucking shit but come on now. Only you thought it was a epic own to post your favorite internet man.
Sad.

>>714849878 (OP)
Red dead

Neither game is boring if you actually like video games.

Most of the shitting on RDR2 is fair but I never understood people complaining about the character turning and walking animations
It's a fucking Rockstar game, when are you ever in a situation where you care about the character taking 0.5s to turn?

>>714853631
Juarez games
GUN
Desperado

It's a fucking Rockstar game, of course it's not fun!

that is a hard question. when rdr2 is good it can be very memorable (such as the various bank shootouts), but we so very rarely see those moments. death stranding is never good. death stranding is boring but it at least feels like a game. a very boring, game.
Looking back I enjoyed many aspects of rd2 in retrospect but I would never actually want to go back and play it again, the game is a slog. though I would never want to actually play it again.
I have no such memories of DS.
despite all of that if you put a gun to my head told me I HAD to replay one for 40 hours (no cutscene skipping), i'd choose death stranding. rdr2 feels more like work despite DS being literal work.
DS is also difficult to discuss because of the cult of lizard IQ retards who think it's the greatest game ever. many are in this thread i'm sure.

>>714850123
>experimental mechanics to justify its plodding pace
kojima drones will say this to cope with DS being a walking sim but all of those mechanics are easily dealt with almost as quickly as they're introduced

>>714849878 (OP)
Although I love the cowboy sim-ness of RDR2, it can really feel like a chore to play sometimes. Seath Stranding (1 in my case, not played 2 yet) is oddyl compelling. Maybe it's to do with being able to switch up your tasks and go abut restoring roads and the like, or the feeling of actually having to plan to go on a mission?
The most fun I've had in RDR2 is going about without the main story, just hunting and finding horses, stealing wagons. The story missions themselves are fine I guess, but god they drag on.

zoomers lel

Death Stranding mogs hard

>>714849878 (OP)
death stranding
Rdr 2 has actual cities, tons of customization options, random events, more side quests, activities, fishing, hunting, treasure hunting, cooking, bounty hunting
Death stranding has mountains and every city is walled off due and you can’t even enter them, most of the missions are the same shit with a braindead boss fight thrown in there some times

>>714854054
He never said it was shitty, he loves the game you retard

>>714849878 (OP)
RDR2 is way more monotone, stale, one-dimensional at times, and boring slog, despite the bigger budget.
Death Stranding is just an honest and weirdly disastrous attempt at making a game.

Sam unironically controls better holding hundreds of pounds of gear than Arthur wearing nothing but pants.
That's how bad RDR2's controls are.

>>714856016
when he said western games he meant good western games not bad ones

>>714857040
then why did he bring up RDR?

>>714857004
It's so strange to me how some of you compare or analyze video games. I care so much more about the experience, story and world that the controls could be absolute shit and i would still love the game. Like Gothic for example. Who the fuck cares how good or awful it plays, it's not an FPS or some insanely hard platformer. You just press forward and sometimes shoot some mfs

>>714854364
oh noooo, he missed out on all the nothing "content"

>>714857364
"Nothing" to you probably means a ton to others. Keep that in mind.

>>714857364
you are absolutely right, why waste time playing video games when i can just ask chatGPT to narrate me the basic plot points. i mean we all know he dies in the end from day one.

>>714850372
Oh fuck off. Rockstar games suck ass, this isn't fucking reddit

>>714859097
i could just be playing actually good games instead

>>714849878 (OP)
RDR2 is boring if you have an average IQ
DS2 is boring if you have a low or high IQ

>>714849878 (OP)
You life, ADHD zoomie.

>>714849878 (OP)
>make ski lift of grapple swoosh transport towers up to top of mountain
>get one of them floating tow baskets and empty it
>climb on board
>hoverboard down the mountain
>swoosh back up on ski lift and repeat
DS ain't boring

>>714852145
You didnt play the game.

>>714859278
>go to spot marked with an x
>trigger long ass cutscene
>shoot 2-3 waves of cannonfodder
>rinse and repeat 10 out of 10
is this what gaymers have become? mindless drones? no wonder it's so easy to trick and exploit them

>>714859354
name 1 good game

>>714861137
Batman

>>714849878 (OP)
I found RDR2 to be incredibly boring.

RDR2 is a movie game.

There are long and boring cutscenes.
Theare are in-game cutscenes where you're stuck walking for 30 minutes at a time, following some guy and being forced to hear him.

Even the gameplay itself is cinematic. The way your character moves, with that incredibly annoying "inertia", you can't run in camp or in houses, it takes 2 minutes to loot a cupboard, 30 seconds to loot one dead guy. There are so many animations and small annoying things that make the gameplay slow and very annoying.

Meanwhile, DS is a game with a lot of cinematics.
Like the first 3 hours, I think I played 30 minutes. And those cinematics are mocapped Hollywood actors, which I hate.

But when the game lets you play, the gameplay is fine. Sure you might find it boring, literally planning a route across devastated landscapes and carrying boxes, but it soothed my autism. But actually playing is responsive, while actually playing RDR2 is still a fucking bore.

>>714849878 (OP)
Dude if you can't enjoy videogames anymore just move on with your life.

>>714849878 (OP)
Both can barely be considered video games with the amount of time you spend doing nothing, and the worst thing is that even from a narrative standpoint they are so lacking that you actively harm your experience when paying attention to the plot.
Ultimately both Death stranding and rdr2 fail at being a video game or a movie feeling like a real waste of time and money.

>>714849878 (OP)
DS has lots of cinematics but when you're playing you're actually playing. Like you can call it a walking sim all you want, it's an actual video game with lots of mechanics. RDR2 also has lots of mechanics, but you're literally punished for using them with the game telling you "No no no no! You're not playing the canon way! Mission Failed!" It has so much scripted bullshit which makes it incredibly annoying to replay.

>>714855923
we don’t do that here

>>714849878 (OP)
They're both kino
maybe you're the problem?

>>714862887
i'll agree on RDR2 being "cinematic" (wtf does that even mean) but it's the only game where i could stand cutscenes. also you are obviously one of those faggots who have played rdr2 on youtube or you suffer from a brainfog, because the cutscenes are actually quite short, most of the exposition is through the horse riding sequences just like in a gta game

>>714849878 (OP)
Unironically, RDR2

>>714850123
>It's got tedious animations because fuck you
This annoys me the most. Death Stranding, despite being a slow game at least still feels like a video game. Movement still feels gamey rather than trying to emulate real life. The way you can pick up packages while sprinting and just throw them on your back in an unrealistic way without some long winded animation every time automatically makes DS a better game than RDR2.

>>714849878 (OP)
DS has skippable cutscenes
RDR2 has a billion walk and talk sections

death stranding and it isn't even close

>>714849878 (OP)
>a literal walking simulator where you play as an Amazon delivery driver
>the greatest cinematic video game of all time where you fulfill your childhood fantasy of being a cowboy
Death Stranding is the king of boring.

>>714867431
anons yearn for the gig economy
plus cowboys were all gay
and mexico did it first, they copied it all because they were trying to larp as macho men
many such cases!

>>714857443
and not one real tear, not a single tear on any cheek

>>714867915
bro actually zoomed in oh no no no

>>714859479
>you life
heyyyy ESL golem, how is studying going? still sticking out after 2 words of broken english

>>714849878 (OP)
RDR2
I completed DS, it was fun and simple
RDR2 is too complicated and boring

>>714868116
Not being able to kill Micah makes this game gay. Both games have zero player agency, you are just some dumb golem on strings hopping from exposition to exposition.

>>714849878 (OP)
aside from the fact that both games feature large open worlds, they don’t really have much in common. RDR2 stays immersive and relaxing all the way through. it’s basically an adult make believe game, like most GTA games. you often just roam around aimlessly and enjoy the scenery. DS2 is very different. it’s much more gamey. The controls are more responsive, you constantly unlock new gadgets and mechanics, some of which are pretty goofy. and you’re always transporting something. I personally love both games, but I can play DS1 and DS2 for much longer stretches.

i will not install the rockstar game launcher so RDR2 loses by default

>>714849878 (OP)
Death Stranding 2 (not shown). He fucked it up and made the game stupidly easy instead of learning from and improving upon the first.

I'm actually convinced Kojima left the play testing and level design completely to other people this time, or he just phoned it in.

>>714849878 (OP)
I enjoyed both unironically

>>714849878 (OP)
>>714850123
Kojima has been unlimited inspired by Rockstar. Everytime a song kicks in when you're traveling in Death Stranding, he got that idea from the ride into Mexico in RDR1. Kojima also said they're the greatest dev on the planet.

>>714868776
you seem easy to please, which is the opposite of non-tiktok autism

>>714868842
Kojima doesn't even understand what made DS1 good. He's like 80 years old and probably doesn't even play games anymore.

I started playing DS1 like three days ago and I'm surprised that I actually enjoy it since I hated RDR2.

I think if you don't like both you have shit tast and are probably an ass hat irl

>>714868982
he made ONE fucking good game and the entire industry has jerked him off for a decade. i really dont get it.

>>714857332
I agree that controls and movement aren’t necessarily a dealbreaker in a game like RDR2. However, when moving around is the majority of the gameplay, it becomes much more annoying. The novelty of a man moving around realistically wears off after an hour, yet you’re still stuck with it for the remaining tens or hundreds of hours you continue to play.

>>714868982
>Kojima doesn't even understand what made DS1 good
This is quite a good post. He single-handedly fucked his legacy up by reverting the plot of the first game.

it was explained all in here what Kojima now fucking RUINED >>714768478

>>714849878 (OP)
Death Stranding was one of the most boring games I've ever played. Kojimashills are delusional

>>714869843
This. Red Dead Redemption 2 might've been 90% cutscenes, but at least it was interesting and made you want to keep going.

>>714869843
Donkey Kong Bananza is cucking E33 too anon.

>>714869843
The problem with that is you are wrong. DS1 was amazing, DS2 is slop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXyBjAcbLGE

>>714869987
Jesus, you faggots are already trying to attempt this generic contrarian take?

>>714869913
lol what? E33 is getting cucked by donkey kong?

>>714870069
Debunk it without buzzwords. Sam is a grunting retard that just utters "huh".
How dull do you have to be to enjoy a character with 0 agency? if you refuse some dialogues the game resets the chapter and forces you to pick the only answer kojima allows you to pick. there is no choice. not one single decision that matters.

>>714870196
Yes, your French slop isn't winning Goty.

>>714870069
This. DS2 is an improvement on DS1 in every single way. DS1 is a shallow exercise in tedium compared to how fluid and smooth everything is in DS2.
>wahh but the simplified it
Yeah, for the better. It was a pain in the ass having to carry like 5 different guns depending on where you were going. It was annoying holding L2 and R2 everywhere you went.

>>714870805
>holy shit like literally 5 total guns?! carried manually and not shoving them up my asshole and insta swap them? that's like crazy! haha what a boomer game DS1 was for not letting me weapon wheel everything in nanoseconds. craaaaayyyzeeee

>>714870595
>tendies are this delusional

>>714873285
>Muh 92 metascore is so highly rated!! Huurrrr

You're not very smart

>>714872713
Optimization is a great thing.