Are you bothered when you see people say "game X invented mechanic Y" when you know for a fact it didn't

>>714867047 (OP)
No I really don't care
I'm more interested in how games continue to use that mechanic

Everyone knows that East Asians aren’t capable of innovation, only whites are.

>>714867047 (OP)
every day a more cumbersome analogy emerges

>>714867586
uhoh tendie melty!

>>714867047 (OP)
Why did they randomly switch sides

>>714867717
I like to think they never did. So the story is about left analyzing controllers and right trying to troll, failing miserably and seething.
Which is closer to an actual internet argument.

>>714867047 (OP)
>liberal memes
Try again, homo

>>714867717
don't worry, i fixed it

malfrendies SEETHING at warp year escape CHADS

>>714867047 (OP)
But no really, Sega does deserve a lot of credit for analog controllers

>>714867717
it's a second guy flanking the tendie

>>714867047 (OP)
That's why you don't break 180 degree rule. It's just confusing.

>>714867717
i thought they both went in to it with half educated opinions and were having an honest discourse.

>>714867047 (OP)
Sometimes a good invention doesn't make it a good innovation.
I think Nintendo is the perfect example of that, because they might not invent much, but they know how to utilize good inventions and innovate with it

>>714869071
>honest discourse on /v/
lol, lmao even

Who did what well, is significantly more important than who did what first.

>>714869387
/v/ posters are being honest and genuine, they're just honestly genuinely retarded, but that's not the same as being disingenuous

>Sonyonlies overrating mediocre as fuck games, and then accusing everyone else of doing what they're doing
Genuinely, why do they do this?
Do they realise we can, and in many cases did play all of these games?
We all played Croc, man. It was fucking lame. I don't know what to tell you.

>>714867047 (OP)
no because I recognize almost everyone on Earth is fucking retarded and I don't concern myself with the opinions of retards

>>714869613
>does (other tribe) not realize (our tribe) is superior
pathetic

>>714867047 (OP)
What a shit comic all around.
Why the fuck are they so scared of saying the actual companies and games names? Why did they switch sides? Are they scared Nintendo is going to sue them?
Stop fucking beating around the bush. No one knows what the fuck Runner Bolt Jumper is.

>>714867047 (OP)
Not really.

>>714869930
it's mario 64 and jumping flash
fucking secondaries i swear, play videogames ffs

>>714869613
Funny how you immediately hyperfixated on Sony when the devs that beat Nintendo to the punch come from various regions, backgrounds, manufacturers etc, really shows how your attitudes are the result of blind brand loyalty rather than genuine beliefs about the objective history of the medium

>>714869795
It's not even that Playstation is bad, or has bad games. It's this specific kind of dialogue that goes "huh, you like Nintendo game? Well Playstation game is similar to Nintendo game is far superior!", and then you play it, and it clearly isn't. This happens every time.
These people aren't talking about actual good Playstation games. they're not talking about JRPGs with interesting combat systems, or interesting survival horror games. They're telling you for the 50th time today that Shadow of the Colossus is better than Zelda. Which it isn't, because I've played it, and it's a game where you climb a wall, and hit a glowing green mark over and over again, and it gets boring after like three bosses.

>>714870064
What console is Ape Escape on?

>I AM SILLY

>>714870084
people that like team ico games are unhinged, this is recognized even among sonybros
only absolute lunatics compare sotc to oot

>>714870279
>sonyp o n i e s gets wordfiltered to sonybros
lmao how am i only learning of this filter now, funniest filter

>>714870084
>Well Playstation game is similar to Nintendo game is far superior!", and then you play it, and it clearly isn't. This happens every time.
Funny since that's my experience with Nintendo games
>"okay so another dev did it first but Nintendo did it best!"
>play the Nintendo game that did it "best"
>it's fucking ass and obviously only hyped because the people recommending it were 8 when it came out and they had nothing else to play
I always got the idea Ocarina of Time was a rich adventure game from its reputation and then I played it and the dungeons are all a fucking block pushing key managing simulator, it felt like a joke

>>714870279
Same thing with Okami. That game is ass.
I try so hard to like it, because it's clearly doing good things, but the game literally just will not stop yammering on, and let you play.
The gimmick of drawing things on screen is maybe fun for a bit, and then you would rather just have button controls.

>>714870389
Explain what a "key managing simulator" is.

>>714869343
>>714869439
"Utilize" and "do well" meaning have the money to market it to Americans as a branded status symbol, see the tons of touchscreen smartphones that preceded the iPhone everyone thought were gimmicks until Apple "invented" smartphones by dumping billions into advertising the inferior iPhone as the next big thing

>>714870528
seems like a funny way of saying that certain items solve certain obstacles.

>>714870528
It's a game challenge where progress is gated and based on walking around until you find the right keys

Other games like Doom do it too, but I've never seen anyone claim Doom is the best most soulful adventure game ever, everyone agrees the key hunting fucking sucks and gets in the way of shooting which is the star of the show

>>714870449
yea okami blows, it would be fine as a simple adventure game if it had no tutorials but it can't help stepping on its own toes constantly
this is a problem hideki kamiya has in general, he just can't help himself fucking up his games like this, wonderful 101 is even worse for it
viewtiful joe is such a simple game that doesn't even have anything that passes as a "puzzle for retards" like okami has, and even it has this issue

>>714867047 (OP)
I was always bothered that people called Nox a Diablo-clone, when basically the only thing the two games have in common is an isometric perspective.

>>714870730
As opposed to a game where you can just go anywhere from the start?
I don't see how that's an adventure.

>>714868731

>>714870857
Your false dichotomy tells me you're aware you're wrong, and that the only way you can pretend you're right is by pushing an extreme as the only alternative

Even something as basic as Super Metroid had a more organic way of unlocking new progress routes, and it did it without actually gating you but by funneling you through designed paths, for "the best adventure game of all time" I'd expect a more cerebral and immersive ways of handling progress rather than using the same mechanic other games were condemned for

>>714871163
Super Metroid does exactly the same thing.
Knowing that you're locked out of certain areas gives you impetus to explore and experiment with your tools, which is what you want in an adventure game, isn't it?
On the downside, Super Metroid doesn't have the aura of Zelda. It doesn't have the fun characters and activities, and NPC dialogue it expects you to pay attention to, because it contains clues. Instead is has morph ball bomb walls, which basically amount to pixel hunts.

>>714868731
quit screwing around

>>714871458
>Super Metroid does exactly the same thing.
>Knowing that you're locked out of certain areas gives you impetus to explore and experiment with your tools, which is what you want in an adventure game, isn't it?
It doesn't, you never feel like the game is telling you "okay now go back and hunt for the key that opens only this door in order to progress" the way Zelda games do, except maybe in the very start with the morph ball, the rest of the time you just play naturally and realize "oh shit this weapon/movement tech will let me get through one of those doors I passed earlier"
>On the downside, Super Metroid doesn't have the aura of Zelda.
Exposing yourself as a nostalgiafag there
>It doesn't have the fun characters and activities, and NPC dialogue it expects you to pay attention to, because it contains clues.
Having these things raises expectations even further, even if it handled dungeons like Super Metroid it wouldn't be enough because SM's method was designed for its scope, OoT being even more ambitious and interactive would mean it would have to create an even better way to handle dungeons in order to earn its reputation, and it did them worse than SM

>>714867047 (OP)
No one ever remembers the initial invention, they remember the iteration that popularized it. This is true for everything not just video games.

>>714872761
That doesn't mean you can acknowledge the popularizer doesn't deserve the credit

>>714867586
Ive seen this exact exchange

>>714869986
>I'm not bothered but I saved some schizo's forced spam image to signal my dislike

Okie dokie

>>714874985
nu

>>714872479
>Exposing yourself as a nostalgiafag there
Not really. A lot of Zelda's appeal is homely charm, and talking to characters. That's just as true in the new ones.
Not responding to the rest of what you wrote, because you're wrong.

>>714867047 (OP)
not much, I have too much experience with retards to still let my jimmies be rustled by them in general

>>714867047 (OP)
Sometimes but I usually only address it if it's part of a conversation I'm already part of.

>>714867586
I was playing Typing of the Dead earlier and the term "overwrought analogy" came up.

The red arrow claims that their dragon head came up with the fancy dragon tooth sword but real OGs know Versalife is the company that built the first model.

>>714867047 (OP)
Cogs actually do a lot better if they have a prime number of teeth. Not sure why, I assume sorcery.

>>714868731
Desperate. Your turn.

>>714876410
Do you have any facts to back that up?

>>714876654
Number one:
That's terror.

>>714870587
>see the tons of touchscreen smartphones that preceded the iPhone
not to be an applefag or anything but capacitive vs resistive touchscreens is a way bigger deal than just "dumping billions into advertising."

You can tell that OP was absolutely destroyed in some kind of Nintendo thread.

A: Nintendo invented fun.
B: Fun is a buzzword.
A: So?
B: I hate you

>>714875563
>Not really. A lot of Zelda's appeal is homely charm, and talking to characters.
And a lot of SM's charm is being isolated on a strange alien planet, that's not aura vs no aura, it's one type of aura vs another, except SM's aura actually ties into the gameplay seamlessly, whereas in OoT you're flip flopping between hard sections of talking to NPCs, and isolated puzzle gameplay that has fuck all to do with the NPC talking aspect
>That's just as true in the new ones.
No, new Zelda games are sterile, soulless, and robotic, they don't feel like they're made by humans
>Not responding to the rest of what you wrote, because you're wrong.
Thank you for admitting defeat

>>714877027
LG Prada

>>714877479
Literally the only one, that came out only 3 months before the iphone. Not "tons." There are plenty of other reasons it was irrelevant outside of "muh marketing" but like I said, I'm not trying to be an applefag.

>>714878009
>There are plenty of other reasons it was irrelevant outside of "muh marketing"
Nah, if it was the game changer everyone pretends the iPhone was, Prada would've "won"

>>714876654
It has something to do with "harmonics"

>>714876410
Not necessarily prime, just that when you have two intermeshing gear they can't share a common divisors because then you'll have certain teeth meshing only with other certain teeth, exacerbating wear.
Prime number of teeth is an easy way of achieving no common divisors, but not the only way.

>>714879790
It was functionally a flip phone that happened to use the fancy new touch technology instead of hard buttons. Even in a world without an iphone it would still be irrelevant. Capacitive touch was a game changer for shit like the Ericsson P900(actual pre-iphone peak)

>>714882292
>Prime number of teeth is an easy way of achieving no common divisors
What about 1, DUMBASS?!?? Heh, gottem

>>714867047 (OP)
Pretty much every game that gave itself "Innovator" status is guilty of this with the exception of like... Doom I guess?
Really, this is all down to memoryholing PC gaming. People forget that PC already did a lot of what gaming became about prior to the whole "GAMES ARE ART!!!!" boom of the 2000s.
Myst got normalfags into games.
Adventure games were already pushing the boundaries of storytelling within games.
The entirety of JRPGs owe themselves to Ultima and Wizardry.
Cutscenes were first invented for Maniac Mansion.
The stealth genre goes back to the original Wolfenstein.

And so on, and so on.
Also all innovations in platformers, shooters, action games, fightans, goes back to arcade.

>>714867047 (OP)
The majority of gamers don’t play games that aren’t advertised to them. They literally have no indie awareness.

>>714867047 (OP)
I didn't read all of that but a lot of people who don't play RPGs claimed shit like Expedition 33 was nu-roll-slop or turn-based Dark Souls because it used mechanics like dodging/parrying when there are several RPGs that have these mechanics going as far back as the 90's, if not earlier.

>>714876197
do you have a single snack to back that up?

>>714874985
One of the most pathetic copes ive ever seen responding tot that image.

>>714868731
our bioelectronic thingamajiggers and their flexibility has allowed us to make monetization in areas they refuse to consider

Don't mind me, just inventing cars

>invented bonfires
>invented rolling
>invented medieval high fantasy
>invented estus flask
>invented nonlinearity
>invented poison swamps
>invented souls games
>invented attributes
i kneel

>>714883012
Doom is like the third FPS that Id made, not to mention anyone else.

>>714886926
doom's not innovator status for being fps, but rather for its rendering techniques and performance, same with quake, it's not innovator status for being 3d, it's for being 3d while both looking so good and running so good

>>714869930

OP is a slightly more evolved retard so he knows if he uses specific examples he'll get btfo, hence the obfuscation.

>>714877372
what part of being isolated on a remote planet meshes thematically with turning into a little ball and bombing walls?
If you're arguing for some kind of thematic purity, obvious Zelda has it beat. It feels like a fantasy quest, right down to finding magical items and treasures, and finding aid in talking to townsfolk or quirky mythical beings.

I don't think you understand the appeal of a video game that is all about being on a quest and adventuring. It's fine if you don't. It just means it's not for you. Doesn't make it a bad game.

>>714886879
This is definitely the worst offender.

>>714887759
>what part of being isolated on a remote planet meshes thematically with turning into a little ball and bombing walls?
The part where you're only alive thanks to having an advanced space suit that can adapt to the strange alien environment, and bombing walls is a tiny part of the game anyway, dungeons are THE meat and potatoes of Zelda

>If you're arguing for some kind of thematic purity, obvious Zelda has it beat. It feels like a fantasy quest, right down to finding magical items and treasures, and finding aid in talking to townsfolk or quirky mythical beings.
It doesn't, Zelda has the right ambition for a fantasy quest, but arbitrarily betting it all on completely isolated gamey mechanical dungeons meant they squandered it all, it's like two completely thematically different games in one, compared to SM which is a unified whole

>>714889059
1. I'm not seeing the thematic through-line from Aliens to Marble Madness
2. the hero having to complete some kind of dungeon trial is like basic fantasy stuff

>>714889837
>1. I'm not seeing the thematic through-line from Aliens to Marble Madness
That's because there's no Marble Madness in Super Metroid

>2. the hero having to complete some kind of dungeon trial is like basic fantasy stuff
There's usually only one brief dungeon trial and it's usually heavily relevant to the themes of the story
>Odysseus travels through Hades by performing a ritual to reach Tiresias for guidance on the rest of the journey, then the story continues
>Aladdin is trapped in a cave and has to use the thematically relevant lamp/ring and his virtues to escape and then the story continues
>the Fellowship of the Ring take a shortcut through Moria where they see a cautionary tale of what Sauron's ambition and Saruman's industrialization would do to all of Middle-Earth, then the story continues
Meanwhile in Zelda it's
>the hero sets out on a quest, then he just spends 80% of his time in underground dungeons where he pushes blocks and hunts for keys periodically emerging to talk to some people, then he fights the big bad the end
It's a joke of a quest that could only be taken seriously by kids with no life or fiction experience

>>714867047 (OP)
Nintendo is an evil anti-consumer anti-competition overly litigious soulless corporation. They're no better than EA, Activation Blizzard and Ubisoft. That said, the big difference between Nintendo and those other companies is that Nintendo actually gives a fuck about the quality of their games. The constantly put out bangers and they revolutionized gaming in the 80's.

>>714893038
>Nintendo actually gives a fuck about the quality of their games.
You here from 2003?

>>714886690
Horses were more sovlfvl

>>714867047 (OP)
No, not anymore.
I do my best to not argue morons.

>>714867047 (OP)
It flairs my autism but not by much
People in general have fried short and long term memory so it's not worth getting upset about

>>714895202
Whether you like it or not Nintendo is putting out higher quality games than anyone else at the moment.
The only time when they dipped was under iwata when he was more concerned about quantity

>>714897708
>Whether you like it or not Nintendo is putting out higher quality games than anyone else at the moment.
lol

>>714897753
Don't tell me you actually like games from modern square, EA, Konami, Sony and capcom to name a few of the major companies.

>>714868731
Might as well start using coke.

>>714897753
Anons like this are why we need skg. They just keep on making bad choices.

"But Nintendo did do it first, name any other example."
"Names some game that did something else, not even related in any way."
Super autist will do this for hours every single day by the way

>>714898281
If I had a dollar for every time someone brought up jumping flash in that way I would make Elon jealous.

>>714867047 (OP)
Is this a real analogy? Did nintendo rip off a certain peripheral?

>>714897983
I know for a fact they've never even come close to making games on the level of Baldur's Gate 3, Expedition 33, Psychonauts 2, It Takes Two, Sekiro, Cuphead, etc and the fact their slop is slightly less sloppy than the other slop manufacturers doesn't make them praise-worthy in my eyes

>>714898185
You should've aged out of bing bing wahoo when you were 12

>>714898501
I mean, the only one they "ripped off" was some bamco one they bought the rights off of

>>714898949
>You should've aged out of bing bing wahoo when you were 12
>lists psychonauts, cuphead and it takes two
The best part is that you're serious.

>>714867047 (OP)
there's a quote from scott the woz that i don't fully remember that goes something like
>super mario 64 wasn't the first 3D platformer, but it might as well have been
which honestly sums up how i think about this kinda shit
it doesn't matter if you were "the first", all that matters is if you managed to get people to give a shit about you.

>>714898501
Pretty much every single thing you see people claim was invented by Nintendo, wasn't invented by Nintendo

>>714899095
>doesn't understand the difference between those games and bing bign wahoo
Yep, you're still mentally 12

>>714898501
The super retard doesn't use a real example because then he'd have to admit Nintendo did innovate and create shit, in fact they would have to because even the retarded haters say Nintendo does things "their own way" ie they gotta innovate

>>714899116
>merit doesn't matter what matters is popularity
Typical brand drone

>>714899209
The difference is that they're mediocre. You play them as filler between the release of higher quality games.

>>714899495
>they're not Mario which means they're mediocre
Yep, still mentally 12 at the school yard trying to convince other kids your product mascot is Jesus

>>714867047 (OP)
According to Tendies, Nintendo invented every mechanic on the face of Earth.

>>714899616
Who said Mario was the only high quality game? Sounds like you have a problem reading.

>>714899209
>mature adult children's toys for mature adults such as myself

>>714899684
>Who said Mario was the only high quality game?
You by implying platformers without Mario are mediocre by default

>>714899384
Nintendo fans don't even talk about the innovations and all that shit all the time. You know who does? All the retarded haters who for some reason gotta enter every thread and make false claims all the time. They got that Sony fanboy obsession about Nintendo

>>714867717
>You were seething about this
>...
>I was seething about this

>>714899859
>Nintendo fans don't even talk about the innovations and all that shit all the time.

>>714899916
It's true and you know it.

>>714899749
Anon if you find mental stimulation in Bluey, Cocomelon, Hello Kitty, Dora the Explorer, Kirby, bing bing wahoo etc you have a developmental disorder

>>714899792
>platformers without Mario are mediocre by default
And when was that said?

>>714886862
>get mad at random anon post
>create an entire powerpoint to show how wrong he his

>>714900134
Here >>714899495 when you implied some of the best platforming games of all time are mediocre whereas you claimed Nintendo games are high quality by default

>>714899916
He's right, I mean, look at this thread. Do you see anyone making a list of innovations to defend them? No.
And it's because they don't care either way.
Nintendo fans just buy Nintendo games because they're good

>>714867047 (OP)
Things Nintendo invented:
>2D platformers.
>3D platformers.
>Power ups
>Lock On Target.
>Jumping.
>Gliding.
>Catching animals.
>Catching animals using tools.
>Riding animals.
>Motion controls.
>Racing games.
>Gorillas.
>Plumbers.
>The concept of animals using fantastical powers.
>Strategic RPGs
>Open World games
>Painting
>Squids
>the name Mario
>the world Super
>Turtles
>The color yellow on an animal
>Anthro Rabbits
>Sea Serpents
>Throwing objects.
>% as health
>Cartoon eyes
>Cartoon smiles

>>714899495
>mario games
>not mediocre
Shit taste.

>>714900125
You're mentally stimulated by cuphead?
Are you that reviewer in the pigeon video? >>714900210
>some of the best platforming games of all time
I don't see

>>714900336
Fucking post timer
Anyway, I don't see sonic, crash or spyro there so you can fuck right off. I didn't even care about your zoomer conversation until you tried to say that shithead was better than those.

>>714867047 (OP)
Holy fuck OP fix your shit comic.

why does this guy try to push his 'look guys i'm totally an oldfag' mspaint OC in opening posts when they look like recycled shit from actually good mspaint OC?

>>714882858
>he doesn't know about worm gears
lmaoing@ur life rn my dude

>>714901053
Zoomers trying to appeal to the older generation basically.

>>714868731
Stick with the prod
Prod with the prod
Just in case, though, we're police

>>714899749
You have manchildish idea of maturity, you don’t understand and comrehend

>I feel like no one will fall for this
-
>What do you mean? This is the best game ever
>Actually, this is just slightly brighter
-
>This is the next generation experience
>This is a GameCube.
-
MODS!!!!

I really don't like how every sucks off Ocarina of Time when Mega Man Legends did most of what it did first

>>714901646
A bit of a pot and kettle situation you're putting yourself into there.

>>714901834
Because Legends didn't do anything.

>>714869930
>>714870061
Retard. It's in reference to Mario 1 and Pac-Land. A game which had momentum based platforming across levels way before Mario 1 did. Mario 1 is an actual good game tho

>>714902150
No it isn't.

>>714902034
Ocarina of Time also didn't do anything

>>714867047 (OP)
nintendo doesn't do that though?
shouldn't it be sony?

>>714869930
>>714870061
>>714902150
>>714902261
Actually it's about the Zelda adventure game format, which Nintendo didn't do first but many claim they did it "right", which is easily disproved by the fact even Nintendo uses an open world game format for Zelda today, which they did not come up with, meaning another dev did the adventure game format even more right but they don't get the recognition for it

Actually it's about the analog stick, which Nintendo didn't do first but many claim they did it "right", which is easily disproved by the fact even Nintendo uses dual analogs today, which they did not come up with, meaning another dev did analog sticks even more right but they don't get the recognition for it

Actually it's about Z-targeting in OoT, which Nintendo didn't do first but many claim they did it "right", which is easily disproved by the fact even Nintendo uses a combination of lock-on and gyro aiming today, which they did not come up with, meaning another dev did third person aiming even more right but they don't get the recognition for it

Actually it's about

>>714904163
>which is easily disproved by the fact even Nintendo uses an open world game format for Zelda today
Uh, no?

>>714867047 (OP)
I'm not reading all of that.

>>714904163
>which Nintendo didn't do first but many claim they did it "right", which is easily disproved by the fact even Nintendo uses an open world game format for Zelda today
That doesn't make a lick of sense. Just because you did something right doesn't mean you can't try something different.
Which isn't all that different given how open ended Zelda 1 could be

How the conversation actually goes irl
>Actually it was used first in this obscure game you never heard of
>Oh cool

>>714905318
It makes a lot of sense when you acknowledge the fact the narrative shifted from "Nintendo REVOLUTIONIZED games by INVENTING adventure games with Zelda" to "Nintendo REVOLUTIONIZED games by INVENTING open world games with BotW" when BotW released

>>714867047 (OP)
I am bothered when people say things that I know are not true. Especially when I tell them how it really is and they still insist on it

>>714905830
>to "Nintendo REVOLUTIONIZED games by INVENTING open world games with BotW" when BotW released
Which wasn't a thing mind you. The closest you got to that was "you only think Botw is good because it was the first open world game on Nintendo systems" which is also a false statement but actually was said.

Heres how I view it. If some obscure game invented a mechanic 20-30 years ago, then suddenly a major well known AAA game utilizes it again, and then suddenly other games are copying the AAA title, then for all intensive porpoises the second game basically reinvented the mechanic.

>>714906702
Journos and fans definitely went around claiming Nintendo invented open world games when BOTW released

The more time passes the less people who play games know about the previous games and thus have no frame of reference how much worse things have gotten and accept the current industry being the best there ever was and will be and thus something only an insane person would complain about.

>>714906917
You just posted an image that proves otherwise.

>>714907481
No it proves >>714904163 happened with open world games as well

>>714908968
Except your claim was this>>714905830
>Nintendo REVOLUTIONIZED games by INVENTING open world games with BotW" when BotW released
It also doesn't prove that post right.

>>714909706
You do understand the wording of that is imitating the top part of the OP comic

>>714909775
Which it isn't. It very clearly doesn't say that Nintendo invented open world nor is it saying it added anything particularly revolutionary.
I take it English isn't your first language.

>>714910259
>nor is it saying it added anything particularly revolutionary.
Genuinely retarded

>>714910849
So that's a yes on being an ESL.
I shouldn't have expected more from you.

>>714911224
Projecting harder than an IMAX

>>714911278
That's not how you use the word projecting by the way.

>>714911575
Anon you can't just say things that are the direct opposite of truth and then pretend they're the truth

What nintendo thing in specific is this supposed to reference, the joystick? I thought it was agreed upon that nintendo revolutionized gaming, especially in 3d, by making joysticks on controllers commonplace with sony then proceeding to perfect it by having two joysticks?

>>714911852
It's basically just OP venting about an argument he lost

>>714911852
See >>714904163, this anon >>714912581 is just venting about an argument he lost

>>714912978
Well, what are some examples of the modern joystick prior to n64?

>>714913234
Arcade sticks, Atari/Intellivision sticks, which spawned from Aviation navigation sticks, which owes it's history to the automobile's stick shift.

In short, we should show gratitude stick. Just stick.

Are there really people on here who believe that a controller first shown off in november 1995 inspired a controller that released in april 1997?

>>714896742
cars should have been designed with horse faces as a homage
imagine what the streets would look like now

>>714900171
It's always a good thing when anons get mad enough to create things. Madness should be encouraged, not shoved down.

>>714867047 (OP)
This has to be the worst strawman comic I've ever seen. I have no idea what its even trying to say, aside from the fact that one party is a Nintendo fan.

>>714915234
Thing is in product therefore thing in other products are stealing from product brand, but thing is found to be in other products before or at the same time as product from product brand.
Therefore product brand defender is aggravated and lashes out with wild accusations.

>>714869613
Nobody talked about Sony. Nintendo stole from a fuckton of third parties decades ago yhen pretended it's all their own and are now patent trolling on top.

>>714914961
I miss when rage was the avatar of /v/

>>714906917
Is that Dunkey

someone should unironically use the name "Maifriendo" for their game company

>>714867047 (OP)
A vidya butts thread died for this.

>>714922447
And get sued by Maifrirendo? No way