Thread 714871357

This months friendslop dropped

it dropped a while ago unc

>>714871357 (OP)
>friendslop
Is this a problem?

still playing REPO

>>714871753
Yeah because
1. it means the game is shit
2. it means that people don't have real friends: what's stopping your friends playing from literally anything? Why does it have to be a game that just so happens to be popular online?

>>714871989
What's the problem with playing what's popular?

>>714872193
It incentivizes groupthink over logic.

>>714872337
the logic being what? A game designed with co-op in mind will be fun with friends

>>714872556
Yes and there's like..... many. Many many games to play. Dumping 100k+ players into one game at a time doesn't really benefit anything but sheep brains.

>>714871989
>2. it means that people don't have real friends
yes no need to tell on yourself, we knew from the OP

>>714872959
Riddle me this then Batman: why are everyones friends always only playing games that have 100k+ players and then drop it after it doesn't?

>>714872956
>Many many games to play.
And they chose one to play.
What's the problem?

>>714873081
I just told you. If that wasn't the case then there would be more to play. But people have this mentality that they can't play things that don't have enough players. It's like weakness in the human brain.

>>714873247
>If that wasn't the case then there would be more to play.
Huh?

>>714873308
It's same shit as with popular multiplayer games. Like Counter-Strike is popular because Counter-Strike is popular. And if it wasn't then people would suddenly not care about the game. But imagine how cool it would be to have more people spread over more games.

>>714871357 (OP)
>friendslop
How do you define this without including any and every multiplayer game with a public lobby?

>>714873391
I know you're on summer vacation but you should be in school. You need to further your education. You should not be on this website.

>>714873391
>But imagine how cool it would be to have more people spread over more games
And games like Peak are in the way of this... how?

>>714873431
friendslop, as defined by the current "everything is bad" zeitgeist is: every multiplayer lobby game released after June 14th, 2018.

>>714873557
Games like Peak promote the same groupthink.

>>714873431
You don't
People just attach "slop" to other words and then pretend like it's making a point.

>>714873023
Helldivers 2 has a decent sized player base despite its player peaks.

the named it that way just so zoomers and streamers would go
>ayo chat today we're playing PEAK
>yooo this shit is PEAK fr lol
>certified PEAK bruh

>>714873723
Or maybe it's because you climb a mountain peak

>>714873613
Every generation of humans has had popular fads.

>>714873023
No one wants to play a game with a dead playerbase, Riddler.

>>714873847
Yes because our brains learned that to survive it is beneficial to do what others do. But this is about video games so it's misleading signal.

>>714873940
But you need only 2+ players to play it.

>>714874019
Yeah man, I had frosted tips in high school to survive.

>>714873247
You mean to tell me if people aren't aware of games then they won't play them? Say it ain't so!
It's not a hard formula to figure out.
>Game with minimal marketing comes out
>Streamers will give it a go
>Streamers provide exposure
>People begin to buy and play with friends
>They have the same funny experiences streamers and co have
>They make their own clips
>Hundreds of funny clips are now in circulation on social media
>The game gets more exposure as more people play it
>Fun is had for a while
>Numbers drop as the game gets stale as players and friends have had their fun.
>Numbers drop
Players don't care about the numbers. They're not looking at player count. That doesn't matter in a game where you and 3 others play in your own lobby. They're looking at something which seems like fun.

>>714874126
Some did. Their brains told them to.

>>714874312
I genuinely don't understand what point you are making or are trying to make.
It's like talking to a fish.

It's probably a no-friend loser or a failed dev seething over other dev's success. Many such cases

>>714871753
No. "Friendslop" was a term invented to try and demonize fun and make people feel bad for having a good time, despite that being the entire point of vidya. A lot of the games that get hit with this label are ironically very well made and polished too.

>>714874392
Trying to tell you that the brain has one goal and that is to survive. That's what organisms do.

>>714872337
>>714872956
Are you autistic or just pissed off you don't have friends?

>>714874584
Fuck yes, I love playing Autist 20 Questions.

Okay! And what does that idea have to do with people playing fotm games?

>>714874714
The point is that in this case their survival isn't at risk. The brain evolves slower than our world.

>>714871357 (OP)
It's fun, and is actually very cooperative...
Except for that one time my shot shot in in the back with a blow dart causing me to fall in Lava....
But at least I managed to beat it with my British friend.

>>714871357 (OP)
We already finished it, was fun but the fog is bs

Can be friendslop and also absolute peak at the same time.
Aggro Crab are good people anyways, they can do no wrong.

>>714874932
Okay
And what is the issue with that?
This is my 7th question to you and I still have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

>>714873431
It's just another way to describe flavor of the month games. Specifically, it hones in on games that go viral due to le epic clips surfacing of wacky moments that come from human interaction with voice chat rather than anything inherently tied to the game itself.

>>714875683
Well I've given you multiple answers even so the problem is in your end.

>>714871357 (OP)
meh i played it before it was cool

>>714875920
Yeah I know. That's why I'm trying to solve it.

>>714873431
Easy
Round-based four-player co-op games that consist mostly of busywork to set up emergent gameplay situations that will be talked about later
Ironically this all started ages ago in large FPS games (namely Battlefield 2). Those developed on a parallel track, see also those dumb war simulator MMOs

>>714874580
No it’s because they’re incredibly lazy and cheap games that only exist to make a quick buck

>>714874262
>Streamers
dont give them credit, it goes to their head

>>714876139
>Small teams are able to create fun, gameplay-dense titles on small budgets and with low development times that lots of people enjoy
>This is a bad thing somehow

>>714877172
Let's just ignore all the ones that failed and can't become anything because people only play the big number one. Is this still a good thing?

It's one of the best co-op game because of the helping hand and boosting mechanic

>Let's just ignore all the ones that failed and can't become anything because people only play the big number one
It really is a seething no dev.

>>714871357 (OP)
The characters are very expressive and neat. Everything else about the game looks like shit though, and the world design is so boring, ugly, and lame.

>>714873940
That makes sense for massive online games, but why does it matter for smaller games where everyone in the lobby is someone you directly invited?

>>714876597
I hate them just as much as anyone should, they're talentless lames. However regardless of how you feel about them, they're the main driving force behind games like these gaining momentum in short order.

>>714874580
Haven't seen this image in ages, I still laugh uncontrollably whenever I do though. It's so funy

>>714874104
>>714877921
Being a part of something new that everyone is into and also experiencing for the first time is exciting.

>>714878292
Pathetic.

>>714877460
>Is this still a good thing?
Yea. People having fun is never a bad thing.

>>714873023
Because 9/10 times that's when the game is new, and people like new things, and when they drop it is usually after it's been out for 3-4 months and people have been able to get their fill of it. This is how it is for every game in existence.

>>714875953
Does it actually play like grow home?

>>714871753
to normal people? no

to the 30+ friendless NEET khv virgin subhumans that inhabit this board? yes

>>714878806
#gottem

>>714871753
It's a problem when the devs decide to spend 60% of their budget to marketing, aka paying streaming niggers to promote the game, instead of making a good game.
It's always the same story, a game becomes popular overnight, try the game, the game ends up being shit, but it's popular because the devs chose marketing over product quality.

>>714874580
There is a very particular type of game being made to cash in on a fad and you're being intellectually dishonest if you're denying what they are.

>>714879947
Well yea that’s what sells. Making a good-quality game isn’t gonna get eyes on it, and word of mouth only goes so far. Market your game so people get eyes on it and you’ll have people playing in droves easy
I can guarantee you there’s at least a dozen excellent games on steam you’ll have a great time with but you’ll never know exist because they didn’t do anything to get eyes on it

>>714880049
>There is a very particular type of game being made to cash in on a fad
And what is that fad?

>>714881287
It's already been said but co-op games that are mechanically superficial and designed around creating zany clips that go viral.

>>714882036
>mechanically superficial
Does not describe most of the popular games in this "genre"

>>714871357 (OP)
You're kinda late on that, buddy

I hate this dogshit game so much its all my normie friends want to play. It's just spawn, climb, die on ice level, over and over. I understand what it means now when people say friendslop.

>>714883443
Are they also LOUD AND FUNNY?

>take BOTW climbing
>add it to multiplayer game
Who would have thought this would result in a instant 10/10 videogame.

>>714883443
And what have you suggested they try instead?

>>714881215
I'd rather search through muddy waters till I find a game worth playing, or wait a couple years till a game gets some good fame through word of mouth, rather than play every popular slop game whether it's AAA or indie. Perseverance and patience helped me find games like Outer Wilds, DRG and FTL organically, compared to FOTM games like Lethal Company, Schedule 1 or Amogus my friends pester me to play because "they are popular, man".

That's cust called a co-op game, anon.

Got all the badges except the multiplayer ones, those should be pretty easy. Now I just gotta work on my ranks for those cool upper sashes. I see so many people rocking purple sashes yet they make the dumbest fucking climbs and die all the time, so I refuse to believe they're Owl rank somehow.

>>714885701
>Outer Wilds, DRG and FTL
Two of these are singleplayer games so of course your friends wouldn't ask you to play them, and the one that isn't was also popular FOTM when it came out and absolutely would've been labelled friendslop if it'd released today.

>>714871989
brother we play the friendslop and older titles all the time, take the stick out of your bum
you're not smarter or more special for disliking popular things, it just makes you harder to approach

>>714872337
no it doesn't

>>714886539
You didn't get my point. Streamers are also paid to advertise single player games like the latest Assassin's Creed, yet the game being shit didn't prevent it from becoming popular and normie friends talking about it. Also a game being co-op doesn't immediately make it fun, or better than a single player game, usually it's the opposite.

>>714877172
>>Small teams are able to create fun, gameplay-dense titles on small budgets and with low development times that lots of people enjoy
Wait a minute...., isn't that just describing most retro games?

>>714871989
>Why does it have to be a game that just so happens to be popular online?
because its something new?

>>714871357 (OP)
>t. miserable cunt

>>714884175
how did it take like 50 years for anyone to create climbing like this? fuck wrong with game devs

>>714883443
Play with them and climb past Alpine for them. Caldera is easy, Kiln is the only difficult part after.

>>714871753
yes I don't have friends

>>714871357 (OP)
Slowpoke is my favorite

>>714888156
Shut the fuck up, Proton.

>>714871357 (OP)
Hi Cd0m

>>714885701
>Outer Wilds, DRG and FTL
Those aren't even obscure and you didn't find them as organically as you think. Indies don't get popular by accident, but through relentless shilling wherever possible.

So like, contrarianism aside, anyone want to play?

Can OP or anyone recommend me some friend games that aren’t friendslop then?

>>714887806
Not only have i not made it passed Alpine or whatever, one of them did beat it and unlocked some kind of hard mode where your hunger builds retarded fast and that's the mode we have to play on now. So not only is this gay little cal arts bean mouth game repetitive and dull, but it's also tryhard for some reason.

>>714889532
Terraria, risk of rain 2, Jackie chan

>>714889790
>Terraria
I hate to tell you this but the Twitter retard who coined the term used Terraria as one of their examples of friendslop

>>714888721
They were when I found them. But it doesn't matter, you are incapable of having a discussion.

>>714871357 (OP)
threadslop

>>714871357 (OP)
>8 dollars full price
there is nothing wrong with smaller cheaper games you play for a few hours before moving on

>>714871357 (OP)
My brother said he wanted to play this with me

Is it good? Is other "friendslop" (repo, lethal company) better?

>>714891194
Found any hidden gems lately?

>>714889532
Rock of ages

>>714891548
rockslop

I feel like this site has gotten to the point where like 70-80% of posts are some dipshit trying to manipulate public opinion and invent new buzzwords

>>714892438
naw it's just once again people here being unoriginal and parroting a twitter post they saw once because the internet culture pipeline has completely reversed, with 4chan being at the bottom regurgitating everything they see other more clever and funny people make up

>>714889532
Please more recs I’ve already played all those games…..

>>714892909
I imagine you must have played it by now but me and my friends have gone back to replay Left 4 Dead 2 expert campaigns and have been having quite a good time

>>714892824
>clever and funny
This is neither though, just seething.

>>714871989
/thread its like another lethal company its just an excuse for people to e-socialize

>>714893379
friendslop is very funny though, because it was clearly some guy seething about his friends asking him to play a cheap indie game for a few hours.

>>714893498
words of a friendless one

Me and my friends got to the peak a few days ago.
Kind of lost the will to continue playing after that, but it stole 13 hours of our lives so it was a fair trade.

>>714871357 (OP)
Anon it was last month's and it's still going strong into this month.

>>714871753
I'd say this isn't slop. According to steam 9 in 10 people get up the first climb (do steam achievements no longer count people who buy but never launch? This seems suspiciously high)
Now friendSLOP? Yeah, those games are honestly bad because they are bad games, not because they require friends to play.

>>714875953
>>714878802
Grow Home was great but it's nothing like it.
Grow Up was really lame.

>>714889532
Friend game:
Overcooked 1 (no online, couch coop only)
Trine 1 (still trying to get friends to play 2 & 4, 3 had bad reviews)
L4D1/2
Terraria

Sloppy friend game:
Overcooked 2
PlateUp
Castle Crashers
Tabletop Simulator has everything anyone cares about to play
Portal 2 (you can't play puzzle games twice is the problem)
Armello, Civ IV/V/VI, or any video game board game (never buy at full price)
Stardew Valley
Vermintide 1/2/Darktide
Any good RTS from 10+ years ago

Friendslop but you can still look it up:
Don't Starve Together
Raft
Kingdom Two Crowns
Ultimate Chicken Horse

>>714871753
When you have to buy the latest throwaway FOTM shitty indie game to play with your "friends", only to have to buy next month's FOTM shitty indie game, then yeah.
I've no problem with picking a decent game and actually playing it for years, I guess I'm just more autistic than my friend group.

>>714893870
go play vrchat

>>714894391
>When you have to buy the latest throwaway FOTM shitty indie game to play with your "friends", only to have to buy next month's FOTM shitty indie game, then yeah.
why? You don't make enough money to buy games that are usually 20 bucks or less a month? Does the idea that your friends want to socialize while all playing some goofy lil indie game for a handful of hours not make them your friends? Why did you put friends in quotes?

>>714894391
They aren't your friends if you only interact with them to play one game that you happen to do with them instead of playing whatever to pass the time while you're hanging out together.

>>714871753
it's even closer to heroin than most games. you're always chasing the next dragon with friendslop.

>>714871357 (OP)
Fun game. Hope the devs incorporate the 4+ party mod into it. Have had 10 people games so far with no lag.

>>714891426
Out of bunch of party games I get dragged into, it is one of the best. But imo you need to have 4 or more to join in.

Completing a game takes hour hour n half unless you all die early.

>>714871357 (OP)
I thought it was pretty fun for $5 and I already 100%'d the achievements and done up to Ascent 7. I'm getting pretty bored of it though and don't really think adding cactuses or new items will really shake that up.

>>714887802
They had to figure out how to do it in a way that Nintendo wouldn't issue a strike for patent infringement. By tying all your wellbeing stats to a single bar, it circumvents the worry.

>>714875978
He is just trying to get you to say
Popular = bad
Is all popular stuff good? No, but in games it doesnt matter, if you had fun, popular or not it fullfilled its job, that dude is just another special snowflake, the contrarian type.

>>714874580
You are the realest for saying this. You won't hear the term 'friendslop' coming from the people actually playing them cause they are too busy having a genuine good time with their friends. Lethal company was not 'friendslop', it was a charming game developed by a talented guy and it became popular because it was good. This game is fairly similar.

friendslop is a shit term. just say what it really is: streamerbait. some streamers play it, generate clips, everyone plays it for a month, game dies because its actually shit

"Friendslop" is the genre with the most innovation in it. The saturation level is insane, so only games that actually do something different can succeed. The innovation here in Peak being
>let's distill the climbing traversal that is popular in countless open world games down into what makes it fun, and turn it into a multiplayer game
Much like balatro distilled roguelikes down into the single act of making choices, and then made a game from it, this is also a masterclass in raw game design through identifying what it is that people like about climbing as a mechanic.

>>714871753
nah, people desperately crave social experiences