Should you play the original or remake? What are the pros and cons?

>>714877506 (OP)
Just play the remake man, it's not worth suffering the bullshit of the first game

I'm gonna try out the remake when it goes on sale for 20$ on steam. never play any silent hill game before

>>714877506 (OP)
play the remake, it's much more accessible. if you have hunger for more after finishing you can play the original games.

>>714877506 (OP)
I don't think you'll understand why everyone loved Silent Hill 2 if you play the original in 2025. It's one of those "amazing for the time" games. It would be like playing Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 after you know what modern games look like.

>>714878165
Look at this game. When I was younger, I thought this was the greatest game ever. Looks like shit, right? Your perception of stuff changes if better games come out.

>>714878421
NWN was never a good game son (some mods are good though).

>>714878539
Thank you for giving me your opinion of NWN. I'll be in my other tab now where the vast majority of the board was auto filtered because the opinions of stupid people is very important. Assume this is a bluff. I saw this thread because everything is gone.

>>714878658
>...(whisper) maybe the problem is you.

>>714877506 (OP)
The original is half shorter and has better pacing. There are some nice things and places in the remake though. None of them uses the same puzzle so playing both is the best option.

Silent Hill 1 is still better.

>>714877506 (OP)
>Should you play the original or remake?
The 2001 original ONLY.
The 2024 DEI-make is absolute cancer, with all the modern UE5 + TLOU-wannabe cancers packed into one, with some literal Sweet Baby Inc virtue signaling on top.

The pacing is absolutely butchered, with everything taking 4 times longer for no reason. The exploration and problem solving aspects were minimized, while action was cranked up - and it plays just like the notorious SH Homecoming. If that says nothing, it's essentially Dark Souls -lite, which absolutely does not fit a slow-burn, "sad lovestory" vibes of SH2. All the acting and character models are terrible as well.

No fan wanted that shit to be made. No OG Team-Silent dev wanted that shit to be made.

In short, SH2 remake is THE worst way to experience the Silent Hill 2. Even worse than the notorious HD Collection port from 2010.

Here's the SH PC Guide to help ya get the OG trilogy, for free:

https://pastebin.com/uf5XhyXz

PS: if you have never played a SH game before, START WITH SILENT HILL 1!
It's a far better game to start with, and unironically ups the SH2's experience as well.

>>714877506 (OP)
Pro remake:
>more fluid and enjoyable combat
>more exploration
Anti remake:
>bloated as shit
>arguably too much combat due to said bloat, gets repetitive after a while
Pro OG:
>atmospheric as fuck
>better camerawork during cutscenes
>short and sweet
Anti OG:
>tank controls are an issue to some zoomers, generally they serve to create a more cinematic experience, which they do, but a lot of people have trouble with it
>combat is annoying, there isn't a lot of though, besides the bullet sponge bosses

>>714877506 (OP)
why not play both?
t. playing the remake rn

>>714879431
Packing this many buzzwords into what I suppose is meant to be criticism just makes people dismiss your posts. Stop acting like a fucking sperg. It's not hard to shit on the remake.
Also, not a trilogy, fag.
>>714879801
The combat in the remake is a fucking lie. It's just a dice roll with kewl animations to bridge the gap. It's staged. No real hit detection at all, which hilariously makes it less mechanically advanced than the twenty+ year old game it's failing to ape. Having more of the town is probably the single good thing about it though, for sure. Tragic how the only game to actually utilize Silent Hill was 1, with every sequel abandoning the town more and more.

>>714880419
i actually don't understand how so many people played sh2r and came out thinking the combat is good, it almost seems like you have to have 0 basis on videogames as a whole but surely there aren't this many people that have never played a single real time action game

>>714880419
>this many buzzwords
What are the buzzwords?

>>714880668
>i actually don't understand how so many people played sh2r and came out thinking the combat is good
Because it's literally the same shit the PS4-generation late zoomies are used to.
God Of War devolved into similar slop with the part 4. TLOU has used the same system since PS3 days, which itself was based on Uncharted. And around the same time, SH Homecoming used the same smack-smack-DODGE-smack design, and everyone loathed it to bits.

>surely there aren't this many people that have never played a single real time action game
There is.
This generation thinks that Elden Ring is an action game.

Not to mention the same group judges ALL games by how "good", as in effortless and flashy the game's combat is. That itself is a massive departure from the OG SH-fanbase's general consensus that combat should not be a center piece in any survival horror title.

>>714880419
>>714880668
SH2:R's combat isn't revolutionary, but it gets the job done. It's comparatively better, especially in situations when the OG leaves you stuck in a combat situation. Running around in circles in a tiny boss arena while losing all of your ammo and health items isn't scary, just annoying.
Forgot to add one thing that also annoyed me about the remake
>repetition: was it scary or weird the first time it happened? well, you're going to see it 50 more times, fuck you!

>>714881160
it's absolutely not comparatively better unless you have an insane stance on what constitutes good combat design
sh2's combat is at least proper real time combat, even if it is basic and shallow
sh2r's is essentially just a cutscene masquerading as combat where the only inputs that actually matter are dodge and attack, and everything else is solved and dicerolled for, for you behind the scenes
enemies don't even get beaten to death over time like proper combat, it just runs until it decides to roll the kill hit which instantly kills whatever enemy it rolls on (yes it can kill full hp enemies when the game mistakenly puts it on the wrong enemy) it's just terrible
like even if you're the most staunch sh2r defender, it's still hard for me to understand how it's possible to be retarded enough to defend that garbage fucking combat

Look at this game. When I was younger, I thought this was the greatest game ever. Looks like gold, right? Your perception of stuff doesn't change if newer games come out.

>>714878935
Silent Hill 1 IS better. It's scarier too.

All the cult-involved stuff is more interesting. 2 is a great self-contained story but I don't get the obsession with it after one or two playthroughs.

These modernized remakes are a joke and lack many of the nuances from the originals

https://youtu.be/X6P6VMNwbCU?si=zDpy6ilmgzSkg7BH

>>714877506 (OP)
as a zoomer, just play the original bro, original silent hill 1 on my ps3 (I know I probably missed on something by not playing on a CRT but whatever) convinced me forever that no matter what they put out there the remake/remaster will never be superior to the original when it comes to old games (for instance between persona 5 and royal just go with royal for more stuff even if some additions are questionable)
if it was a generic third person shooter UE5 game it woulnd't be a cult title and nobody would remember it, this is partially why I think it just doesn't make any sense to remake sh1
>>714879801
>tank controls are an issue to some zoomers
are you aware that the oldest zoomers are hitting 30 soon pretty much? that shit was totally fine btw, zero issues with it
old games have notoriously bad checkpoints and generally there are more gimmicky and annoying parts because they were still figuring that shit out during that time, and even then it's a complete experience even with the shortcomings that on my opinion just add more to the game (because they remind you that a bunch of real people made it)
you are talking about gen alpha, most zoomers experienced the ps1/ps2 from older brothers and parents

>>714881967
>Not Twin Perfect
Don't care.

>>714881443
>it just runs until it decides to roll the kill hit which instantly kills whatever enemy it rolls on (yes it can kill full hp enemies when the game mistakenly puts it on the wrong enemy)
I never noticed that. Huh.
Anyway, as much as I love the original, the combat is sluggish and there is little variety in monster behavior. If you want a fun challenge in that department, play SH1 or SH3.

>>714882140
the combat in sh2 is supposed to be easy because james killing mary was easy, if the enemies were threatening, instead of pathetic, it would give the player the impression that james was defending himself, rather than committing cold blooded murder
sh2r players are the kind of people that say it was justified self defense because the kids threw chicken nuggets at him

>>714882428
I hate that Chris Watts posting makes me laugh. I get the design philosophy behind SH2, but it's a video game. The idea also kind of falls apart when you're stuck with a boss you can't even run from while it eats 200 shotgun shells.

>>714882623
to be desu playing on hard and not great knifing the strong bosses to death in a couple hits is unhinged

>>714883284
I find that great knife is only really effective in the PH fight. Could be a skill issue on my end.

>>714877506 (OP)
play both. no cons

>>714884097
>>714883284
NTA, but I've played SH2 OG dozens of times, Hard modes included, and I never used the Knife. It's such a shitty RTA tactic, no one could ever come up with that on their own.

If you seriously lack patience to pistol-only the pre-final boss encounters, then that's on you.

>>714884191
There's tons of cons in the DEmake.
Only play that shit after the OG trilogy. And only pirate it. No Denuvo or anything, so fuck Jewnami.

>>714884097
2x ph you just horizontal slash but the other 3 bosses you overhead, maria specifically you hook up the ampoule iv drip unless you're going for 10*

>>714884247
i think 2bh a lot of people that emu'd/pc'd sh2 have a warped view on melee combat because they don't realize it worked differently on real ps2 with analog face buttons, on emu/pc it's not eminent how the different attacks get triggered, on original ps2 it was

even if you want to say 2x ph horizontal slashes is a bullshit strat that nobody'd think of, abstract daddy and maria are pretty obvious (just walk away and overhead) you'd have to have some kind of bizarre stance that experimentation with all mechanics when they're introduced isn't natural to think otherwise

>>714884629
I've played both PS2 and PC ports. Altering between the attack types is pretty simple in latter: quick tapping VS holding down the button.

That has nothing to do with it.
The weapon is just too clunky to wield in general. Massive movement penalty leaves you vulnerable to enemy attacks, which can be instantly lethal in PH fights.
Same thing with the attack windup.

I know no one who would willingly even try that thing on their first or even the second run, not just keeping their distance and using the often well saved Rifle ammo instead.

>>714885480
>i will NEVER try a strategy that might not work
>in a videogame where i have infinite attempts to be as creative as i want
interdasting

>>714885770
>he thinks even one game over is "okay"

>>714877506 (OP)
Its so funny how they couldnt even be bothered to fix things like enemy variety when they force you to fight the same 2 enemies for 20 hours and they had the fucking monster designer come back

>>714887485
To be fair, they kind of tried. Lying figures, Nurses, and Mannequins come in two varieties. If they created any new ones, I imagine the purists would lose their shit.

>>714877506 (OP)
The original is shorter. The remake is quite easily double the length, if not a little more. I love both. Play the original first and then play the remake. I overall still prefer the original, but the remake is super polished and surprisingly faithful. I didn't think Konami/Bloober had it in them. The remake has, by far, the better combat game play if that helps you at all. It could be harder to play the original afterward from a fun perspective.

>>714877506 (OP)
Both are worth playing. Play OG for the story, play Remake for the gameplay.

>>714881752
Spill mama we stan our undefeatable cunty kweens alessa and harry beating the shit out of anything and everything and saving the world from evil <3

>>714887727
>I imagine the purists would lose their shit.
If by "purists" you mean the actual fans AND the OG developers, then this TLOU reskin is already insulting as fuck as-is.

Bloopooper's homos should've listened to Masahiro, and made a WHOLE NEW GAME instead, using the SH2's idea as a spring board if needed. Now it comes across as a sad, cheap, insulting parody of all things SH2 spawned since the birth of Youtube.

>>714888057
>the remake is super polished and surprisingly faithful
Not even you believes this shit.

>It could be harder to play the original afterward from a fun perspective.
On the contrary. The DEmake made me APPRECIATE the original SH2 more than ever, because it is actually a properly designed, memorable and tightly packed experience, instead of playing like every post-RE4 action game on the market. Nonstop Doom 2016 style combat rooms and Jimbo smacking 450+ nurses and legs is not my idea of "fun", nor "Silent Hill".

>>714888075
>play Remake for the gameplay! :^)

>>714888163
Let's be real, Blooper is incapable of original thought. All their previous games were ripoffs of something or another, and they all sucked. Making a remake on a tight leash by OG devs is the only way to go.

>>714888448
the mod to remove those cloths is a must-have
the mod to remove the silly arbitrary weapon reticle sway is also a must-have
and goth angela + prettier angela

>>714888336
I do believe it. The original vision is superior, but I still ended up liking the remake. Before it was even announced, I never thought a Silent Hill 2 remake could ever work in any capacity no matter what. They surprised me with how much I actually enjoyed it. The original still exist, nobody is taking it away from you. I am capable of appreciating both. The remake is definitely uneccesary, but I still enjoyed it.

>>714888707
>I never thought a Silent Hill 2 remake could ever work in any capacity no matter what.
And it did not. I'm not going to sugar coat it.
This shit was EXACTLY what every single original fan was afraid of. And it's clear that Jewnami silenced Masahiro from commenting too much on the project afterwards.

>The original still exist,
Does it though??
Did you forget that as of now, SH1-3 are all LITERAL ABANDONWARE.
Zoomie fags don't even consider them to EXIST if they are not available on PS5 and the very least on Steam.

The surprise GOG port of SH4 was a positive surprise, yet still falls in the gray area thanks to the site's relatively niche status.

>>714889183
Why do you care if Zoomers don't know of their existence? Shouldn't you be happy about this? What do you want? Sounds like the series is being properly gatekept. You're sitting in the drivers seat playing the original while the kid in the back seat is using the fake steering wheel playing the remake.

You can't sway me on what I enjoyed. I enjoy both, simple as. I had fun with the completely uneccesary remake that doesn't harm anything at all because I have a functioning brain and can continue replaying the original as much as I want. Konami has always been a terrible company, and I'm surprised the remake was as solid as it was. It doesn't need to be spot on the same. It doesn't even need to exist. Just play the original and never play the remake. It's not that hard.

>>714889698
>why do you care that this shit means a game that could use an actual good high quality port on a proper renderer (silent hill 1) is going to get an awful low quality remake instead
huh yea idk why anyone would care about that, you're right

If you're a zoomzoom who is afraid of tank controls, there is an over the shoulder mod. Works pretty well.

>>714889698
>Why do you care if Zoomers don't know of their existence?
Because knowledge is power, and crucial things being forgotten result people being exploited by predatory behaviors, including endless de-making of old classics without any respect towards the original.

No, an 80-dollar Unreal 5 action slop should NOT be the only widely accessible version of one of the flagship titles of the PS2 and survival horror genre of the 2000s.

This crap already happened with Doom and such.

>>714890278
literally ruins the in-game design and cinematography, just like the demake. Also still uses tank controls, which never were a problem, just like OG RE4 proved already decades ago.

>>714890572
>Also still uses tank controls
sh2pc always let you use 2d controls ackshually and you can just enable those while using ots

>>714890054
The community already fixed it. I don't know why you're so excited to re-purchase a game I'm sure you already own. We have already seen how Konami handled the Silent Hill 2 HD port. It was fucking terrible. Team Silent is forever dead. Konami is forever garbage. You shouldn't expect anything from them nor care what they are working on in any capacity. Even though I enjoyed SH2 remake to my own surprise, that doesn't mean I think it should become the norm or that I want more. I don't give a fuck what Konami does. We already have the original Silent Hill trilogy. The entire original team and the entirety of everyone who has ever worked at Konami could all die tomorrow, and I wouldn't give a single shit. It's time to move on from Konami and Team Silent. They are never coming back.

>>714877506 (OP)
If you aren't already into PS2 survival horror games, just play the remake. You can't go wrong either way, remake is great. I wasn't sure on it at first either, pirated it, and bought it about halfway through my play through.

>>714890278
It wasn't designed for it and it shows, if you need to go this route, just play the remake.

I would rather play the original because I'm not a normalfag retard. Reddit is that way, faggots.

>>714878539
faggot
its one of the best CRPG games just because of the mods
nobody plays the vanilla story

>>714890695
>the community already fixed it
nigger what, nobody has ever ported sh1, we have buggy pgxp correction options on duckstation but that's the closest thing, and it still has performance issues where you have to trade off having things run too fast due to oc'ing, or having the game lag regularly

regardless, i would like it if everyone could have easy access to high quality versions of good games in their original design philosophy, not require moderately obscure knowledge to fix old games

yes, i can play them, can i tell some random norman to try sh1, 2 or 3 and know they're going to be able to play them properly? abso-fucking-lutely not

>If you have a PS5 or a good computer
Remake
>If you only have a PS2 or Indian PC
Original

>>714877506 (OP)
Original:
under 10 hrs
gameplay is more braindead than remake
acting is worse
curated camera angles making exploration and finding items more intuitive

Remake:
over 20 hrs on first playthrough
TPS camera angles meaning exploration is tedious with checking every corner
enemies can be unpredictable and can dodge melee attacks

On a subsequent playthroughs the remake is noticeably shorter with access to the chainsaw and beelining for key items

>>714891106
Calling people indian will not make you fit in here, normalfag.

>>714890916
furthermore, the best, real version of sh1 (the american version) has an extremely important memo broken and inaccessible, and i've only ever posted the fix here in like one thread years ago
that's something that's important to the game and it's just not known to the average person, that shouldn't be required obscure knowledge to experience a game properly
like even if you just educate everyone to play the yuro version to have the boiler memo accessible, that still means they have the wrong enemies in midwich

i prefer a universe where the best version of the real game is easily accessible to everyone

>>714877506 (OP)
The remake. The 2005 version is clunky

>>714890916
>nobody has ever ported sh1
For now:
>https://decomp.dev/Vatuu/silent-hill-decomp
It went from less than 1% to 15% in around 3 months. So we'll probably get one pc port within the next 2 years, and that's if gog doesnt' make one themselves or hire someone to do one (it's the third most voted game on the dreamlist and gog themselves said they want to release it if they can).
>https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/silent-hill

>>714877506 (OP)
original isn't padded out to the point there's maybe one jumpscare every 10 hours of gameplay
even in the original I had to force myself to keep playing past the hotel because it was all getting so boring
God only knows what kind of catatonic zoomer would enjoy the remake

>>714891405
Reddit is that way, normalfag.

>>714891325
The enemies from the american version are still censored from the beta versions.
And considering that (iirc) none of the japanese media even mentions them it's likely that the enemies from japanese version are the canon ones.
The japanese version is the best one and has the original script with no translation fuck ups like the doghouse bit.

>>714891747
this. the remake is way too long and padded
endless waves of monsters just to pad the content for no reason

>>714891738
GOG absolutely wants all the Silent Hill games on their store, the issue is Konami.

>>714891738
yea i've been on that for a while but it's still at pipe-dream status currently, there are many, many decomps that sit entirely done for years without ever getting a pc port, i'm always hoping but i'm not expecting

>>714892012
>every single enemy gets a stronger, different looking variant as the game goes on
>oh but this one enemy uhh actually wasn't supposed to ever
nah

>all these demake shills
kill all zoomers holy shit

>>714877506 (OP)
Just play the remake. The original is definitely dated, though never forget that the remake is riding on the shoulders of the original. It did what a remake was supposed to do and it would be unfair to say it's "better" than the OG.

>>714892143
>every single enemy gets a stronger, different looking variant as the game goes on
Not every enemy gets a stronger version though.
The sewer monsters don't get one for example.

The best enemy is the mannequin and how it hides and pretends to be a statue.
You can shoot it in the leg to make it kneel. I only went for bodyshots my first time.

>>714877506 (OP)
Just understand that they are different games, Silent Hill 2 Remake is not Silent Hill 2, if you play that and only that you didn't play Silent Hill 2 you played a game from 2025 that simply shares the same name.

Imo you should play both, or at least the original, it's a short game anyway and is easy to emulate. Simply grab PCSX2, grab a Rom and you're all set. that way you can continue with SH3 and give a try to 4.

>>714892840
Yes, one is a good game, and the other is Stray Souls: Silent Hill Edition.

combat in SH Remilk 2 was literally made by a DEI fat woman, who never made anythingn before. and people here are praising and defending it, you deserve the slop, shit eaters

silent hill will flop again, can't wait for it desu

>Hinako, why aren't you playing with your friends?
>They won't let me play house with them, because I hang out with boys

it's gonna be about lolicon stuff, isn't it? I fucking knew the second I heard about that ryukishi guy... it's so fucking over

>80 euros for a AA game from a hong kong studio (their first game btw)
>soulslike combat
>action focused
>no guns, only melee
>japanese setting
>every enemie will be doll-like
>female schoolgirl protag
>schoolgirl drama themes
>child abuse
>mobbing
>unwanted pregnancies (maybe even pro-abortion, as ryukishi is a leftoid degenerate)

WHY?

>>714894078
As opposed to... Japanese take on American horror? There hasn't been a good American Horror movie in 20 years for the Japs to rip off so they have to do something original for once.

>>714890672
>sh2pc always let you use 2d controls ackshually
PS2 versions of 2 and 3 did already day 1, little one. Literally no one wants to play with that shit.
SH4 got extra hate for forcing the 2D controls only.

>>714878165
the clipping in this game goes crazy

>>714894078
>maybe even pro-abortion
anon forgot SH3, looks like god didn't make it

Eileen shaving

>Claudia after swallowing the demon child whole
MY TUNNEL LOVES TO DEEPTHROAT

>>714878165
You jest but I actually played SH2 for the first time only 6 years ago and it's in my top 3 favorite games now. I replay it multiple times every year.

>>714891761
You don't fit in, normie.

Remember when all the Crowbcat trannies were saying the remake was going to fail?

>>714897804
It did fail. Not commercially, but as a silent hill game.

>>714877679


Correct, the lack of fog in the remake doesn't make the remake bad. Old game had too much jank.

>>714877506 (OP)
Original only.
And do start with SH1, so you don't become one of those obnoxious SH2-only fags.

SH2 purist complaints about remake:
>It's too long
>The actors are ugly
>Action is bad
>Maria isn't sexy enough
It's over grandpa, the new remake is worth $20-40

>>714894683
>There hasn't been a good American Horror movie in 20 years
Hereditary

>>714877506 (OP)
You could play the remake and enjoy, just as I enjoyed the original back in the day If you are retarded, they killed the cutscenes with their low skills.

https://youtu.be/NqNuta-n2tE?si=BpJ3AnT2CM6RPcg5

Please have a look at this video where we compare the same scene on the two games. This scene is VERY IMPORTANT and conveys a lot of stuff. If you find that the remake scene is good enough you have shit taste

They destroyed the visuals of the scene and the usage of shadows. Even the expressions changed a whole lot because of lighting changes. I'll mention the voice acting too. It's much, much better in the old version, it lacks the changes in how Maria went from soft spoken to enraged easily.

Also Maria's head is huge on the remake, what retarded proportions she seems like she's been on Ozempic for half an year.

This remake didn't correctly capture either James or Maria. James was supposed to be almost dissociating, like he's floating inside of himself barely unable to connect or feel anything without that brainhaze huge suppressed sadness brings. New James talk like he's on the verge of crying.

That makes the actors bad? No. It's the director's fault.
It's not like the remake has no value, it's just inferior as a whole.

>>714898723
>purists
Is this the Bloopooper vatnigs new forced meme?

Also, that's not even a fraction of the DEImake's flaws people have listed.

>new remake is worth $20-40
It's cute how these pajeets reveal their jewish ways all by themselves.
If you must play this slop, PIRATE it like everyone else did. If you however want to get into Silent Hill franchise, the original games by the Team Silent are the only proper way to get started.

>>714877506 (OP)
Played both recently and honestly they're quite different and have things they do better and shittier than their counterpart.
sh2 remake mishandles pyramid head a lot compared to the original, his buildup is just really underwhelming in the apartments but the fight with him feels more like a fight and not a series of very awkward strafes where you just plink him with 9mm until he gets tired and leaves.
Losing the fixed camera is sad and loses a lot of impact, notably the forest sequence at the start of the game, but giving agency over the camera to the player allows for a lot of opportunities to be scary, notably with the mannequins of which I love the behavior change.
They're really two completely different games and I would just recommend playing the original first before the remake as the remake enforces a very specific interpretation of the events of the original.

>>714900260
No one will ever take you seriously since you only know how to use buzz words and insults. Every time there is a SH2R thread, you have to brigade against it and you do it for free.

Both of them are really good. I would say which one first depends on your age. I'm an old man so I grew up playing those games (I had a fucking Game Boy Pocket and Six Golden Coins, I'm ancient) so going back to PS2 is nothing to me but if you're younger I can see how it might feel weird, so play Remake and then go emulate SH2.

>>714900232
When it comes to remakes everyone always focuses on the superficial elements like character redesigns or changes in cutscenes but I rarely see anyone mention the fact that it's a fundamentally different experience.
In the case of SH2 the original has a melancholic feel to it during gameplay because the monsters aren't that threatening, in fact some of them look pathetic, and it's a fairly lonely and quiet game, it doesn't even have the blood and rust suffocating otherworld but instead it's a very cold and eerie place.
Now compare that with SH2 Remake bombastic non stop action and oppressive otherworld sections.

>>714901619
this
also don't buy it, just get it for free on GOG if you must. but the OG is monumentally better

>>714898723
Pacing is a huge issue with the remake and it's not that it's inherently bad that there's more action than the OG it's that there's too much of it for how simple the combat system is and the low variety of both weapons and enemies. It makes me question people's tastes when stuff like that doesn't bother them but they can't stomach the learning curve attached to the controls and rythm of older games. So many games with shallow repetitive gameplay and missions like AC Black Flag, GTA IV, Skyrim, BOTW are praised as flawless masterpieces everywhere and I didn't really get it before more and more evidence started coming out that most people simply never finish their games. It will be interesting to see if Silent Hill f can succeed where Slitterhead didn't simply by having higher production values and being attached to recognizable brand™ because I don't see how it's not going to be even more repetitive than SH2R with what they've said and shown so far.

The lesson to be learned here is that controls and combat being improved doesn't necessarily mean the gameplay is better beyond from a purely technical standpoint. The combat in the remake is fun for like 2-3 hours then it just becomes a chore that you can't avoid nearly as much as you could in the original.

>>714901619
I don't think you read enough of the true fans' criticism if you think people haven't shat on just about every single element in the de-make.

The atmosphere, pacing, cinematography, art-design, audio-design, acting, writing... everything's completely off, and practically built off a number of UE5's stock 3rd person game template.

>>714902303
>So many games with shallow repetitive gameplay and missions like AC Black Flag, GTA IV, Skyrim, BOTW are praised as flawless masterpieces everywhere and I didn't really get it
holy fucking chad post, I kneel
I fucking hated BOTW & TOTK

>>714877679
>it's not worth suffering the bullshit of the remake

Corrected. The first game was like 7 hours long if you stretched it out. The demake is 19 hours of copy pasted rooms and 500+ nurses you have to kill if you're trying to avoid combat. It's pure slop.

>>714901619
>superficial elements like character redesigns
That was only part of what I was saying. The scene I chose clearly shows how different both are, in visuals and atmosphere. You understand that, right? And you do also understand that if a person watches this simple comparison and prefers the remake, that person should stick with the remake but has shit taste, if not, please just let it be. This message clearly did not have you in mind.

>>714877506 (OP)
I liked the remake for what it is, but if you're only going to play one version to experience SH2 one time, play the original.

>>714902303
>It will be interesting to see if Silent Hill f can succeed where Slitterhead didn't
silent hill f will flop HARD. oldfans don't care about it and nufans don't care about it either. the game is way too japanese to be a hit in the west. and it's outsourced hong kong slop made with poor effort and low costs but going for 80 fucking eurobucks. konami will kill SH after the remake of SH1

>>714902887
Pretty sure it’s already out preordering the series

>>714903225
source? lmao

>>714877506 (OP)
play the original idiot

>>714902463
Yeah the combat was just ridicilous pooper team really turned him into this caricature T_T and now theyre gonna shit up sh1 next and we'll never get a good remake T_T

played the OG with a friend and the demake afterwards. it's not even funny how much better the OG is. we used the fanmade mod which made the game even prettier. I was so fucking disappointed by the demake, I have NO CLUE how so many people sucked it off so much. the game is worse in everything. I only liked the music and sounds.

>>714877506 (OP)

Original, always. Fuck all remakes.

>>714902303
I will defend the 20+ hour play time as it feels like you've been trapped in Silent Hill for a whole day. It's not supposed to be fun romp through an amusement park.

>>714904052
Horror does better with brevity. Being too long in a scary environment just makes the players desensitized.

>>714877506 (OP)
>Game which is a beat-for-beat, character-for-character rip-off of a movie, to the point people at the time wondered how the hell wasn't Konami sued, and whose mechanics and difficulty are dumbed down from the previous entry.
>Now there's a bunch of retarded "purists" who see it as some artefact that needs to be preserved.

>>714904952
Which movie?

>>714877506 (OP)
All I know is that they're both called silent hill 2. Try one and then the other

>>714905081
"Lost Highway." Pic related is Fred Madison, the main character.

Watch it.
1. It's really good.
2. You'll be shocked by just how blatant of a plagiarism the game is. Japanese are already known for their propensity to rip-off Western media, but this one is just completely shameless. They didn't even try to hide it.

Accessible trannies get the rope

>>714903530
>and we'll never get a good remake T_T

It doesn't help that the majority of SH 'fans' outed themselves as midwit mouthbreathing retards that actually liked it. Was watching some guy who does SH story analysis videos do a playthrough and you could feel the ADD through the screen, the puzzles were like watching a monkey trying to do calculus.

>>714877506 (OP)
they're fundamentally completely different games to the point that playing one doesn't mean you played the other

>>714877506 (OP)
The only reason to play a remake of anything is to mod the women to be nude

>>714906009
The three main enemies: lying figure, mannequin, and nurses are pretty sexy on their own. Feels weird bludgeoning, shooting, and stomping women tho

>>714906234
I wouldn't waste my time playing SH2R at all I just wanted to be anti-remake but still make it clear that I pirate and mod RE remakes to wank to Claire and Jill

>>714906234
>Feels weird bludgeoning, shooting, and stomping women tho
That is literally the whole point in SH2.
Except the de-make missed the whole mark of having those feminine enemies be weak and easy to deal with, with James only being truly challenged when face to face with other "males".

>>714906759
bravo team silent

>>714906009
and to make them 500kg

>>714877506 (OP)
why do you add "original" like there's another one? if you want to play silent hill 2, there is only one option, silent hill 2. the other game with a similar name is completely different