Thread 714897363

I hope this is only the beginning, there's so much bullshit that should be removed from this industry

>Paying to play online with a console (I will forever refuse to accept this as the standard)
>Lootboxes are still a thing due to loopholes. Valve literally has a gambling monopoly thanks to CS:GO
>Game licenses that you bought being removed so now you're forced to play a different game (Example: Overwatch 1 and 2)
>Getting permanently banned from a paid experience sometimes for very subjective "offensive language"
>Kernel level anti-cheats
>Owning a license instead of the actual game (this one is the most important of them all imo)
>FOMO purchases
>Being forced to make accounts and launchers for singeplayer games and getting banned in singeplayer games, so you're forced to give up your personal data
>Heavy false advertising (can be a bit subjective but I wouldn't mind seeing some clearer enforcement against it)

And I'm probably forgeting so many other things. I'm aware that some of these practices can't be easily regulated but I still wouldn't mind seeing them gone forever

>Just don't buy shit games
gtfo

>Just don't buy shit games
I can do this, but the general population is too retarded, laws must be made. Voting with your wallet doesnt work because retards are too plentiful

>>714897363 (OP)
I forgot another one
>In-game advertisement in pay-to-play experiences

>>714897363 (OP)
This shit is going nowhere. A local politician said; How is this not foreign interference? American youtubers started a petition in the EU because this was not in their big beautiful bill. If the Russians or Chinese did this everyone would loose their minds.

Hate to break it for you, but this american meme petition is already dead.

>>714897363 (OP)
Can't do anything about that.
Updated gambling laws would cover that.
This is part of what SKG is trying to fix.
Hard to argue in favour, but maybe possible if there is a big enough controversy about it.
Same as above.
SKG already covers it.
Hard to do anything about that.
EU recently isn't the best on the front of protecting your data. Maybe with an evolution of GDPR?
That has been a problem since forever.

>>714897693
>A local politician said; How is this not foreign interference?
The same politician involved in the same council fining Valve, Microsoft, and Sony?

>>714897363 (OP)
you and every single fucking retarded who signed this retarded petition did nothing but accelerate the death of video games as an industry. there's absolutely nothing of value coming out of this since it's just forcing devs to run servers forever at a loss or hand out tools for others to do so when normally they're meant to be private shit. they're just not going to bother making games anymore for you to waste your unemployed ass on or simply won't be releasing anything in the EU anymore. you are genuinely fucked in the head if you sign this petition.

>>714897693
Most parties in the parlement are going to throw this petition out because of this. They don't even have to read it. Textbook foreign interference. We cannot do the same in America and get away with it.

>>714898289
Thanks for the dumb bait, I needed the bump

>>714898289
$0.01 has been added to your EA sports account

>>714898170
We Europussies cannot just go to a random state in America, start a random petition, make it a law and now they have to live under it. This is not how the real world works no matter the petition. Stop being terminal online.

>>714898915
i'm going to rape you. i have the freedom to do so, so i'm going to rape you.

>>714897363 (OP)
Those are great and all. I just do my part of "no buy slop" and "commit piracy on linux".
Good luck out there, europeans.

>>714899097
I'm starting a petition in your country to avoid that.

>>714899236
you can't since you're not american lol

>please government control every aspect of media and decide for me what I'm allowed to consume
it's sad how we're backsliding into 1930s Russia we're going to live through 2-3 generations of Soviet-style garbage because zoomers are so self-oriented and shortsighted. They will gladly vote for their own enslavement because they were told it would "punish the people who have more than me". I wish I wasn't born so late. or so early. either or

>>714899227
>Good luck out there, europeans
It's not Europeans. The whole petition was standard by a fucking America e-celeb who just leverages his fanbase of other Americans to go and fearmonger actual Europeans into signing an American petition because if it somehow passes in Europe, it affects America as well.

It's a loophole because the retards there have no freedom to do something like that so they have to try and get it coming someplace else and hoping it just cascades as a follow up into their own country.

>>714897693
>How is this not foreign interference?
People hate big tech, simple as

>>714899483
>zoomers
the only people that care about this shit are millenials and gen x-ers
zooms are happy playing fortnite and fifa which will 'never' die out

>>714899483
Yeah pretty much. I can kind of get behind a consumer rights thing where devs can't just rugpull you after selling a game. But if it leads to regulating everything like OP wants, fuck that.

>>714899979
Than go to your own government.

>>714899483
>Please entertainment provider take my money, fuck my ass and sell my data just to play a videogame, I don't wanna be a slave (?)

>>714900628
You control the purchases you make.

>>714900564
No

>>714900689
We also control what the government does.

>>714900689
And I control the rules I want my government to make to avoid abusive corporative behaviour

>>714897363 (OP)
>>Getting permanently banned from a paid experience sometimes for very subjective "offensive language"

Unironically where would you even draw the line if you didn't just make it arbitrary, because we've seen what any community looks like when there's no moderation just look at how shit 4chan is any April fools

>>714897363 (OP)
>I hope this is only the beginning, there's so much bullshit that should be removed from this industry

Nothing will happen.
Nothing ever happens, unless Russia or China decides otherwise.

>>714899593
Foreign intervention.

>lolbertarian /v/ is now for government oversight
HOLY KEK

>>714901181
>>lolbertarian /v/
and here I was thinking /v/ liked hitler

>>714901069
The solution is extremely simple: chat + comms ban rather than actual game ban OR game ban + full refund since the product was taken away from a paying customer.

>>714897363 (OP)
Based anon wanting the complete collapse of the video game industry.

>>714897363 (OP)
I own nothing but I'm not happy

To be honest, every now and again, the collective attention of society actually finds itself paying attention to the right stuff and doing the right thing, and the result is always catastrophic as corpos step in hard and make sure we know our fucking place. Never forget occupy wallstreet, all those protests, and the hellfish fallout that followed over the last decade.

>>714897363 (OP)
>>Being forced to make accounts and launchers

There's like zero way any government would agree to curb this. It would set precedent for them to limit their own power.

>FOMO and Advertising
Define them very strictly and consider corner cases but yeah I guess theoretically

>Getting perma banned
They'd never agree to this because it's easy enough to just get public option on the developer side by saying "Oh okay we shouldn't perma ban people for sending sexual content to verified minors". And sure you could say just limit to games that are explicitly M rated, but you'd still have to make some limit that'd be harder to enforce

Otherwise yeah I agree with your post

>>714897363 (OP)
Are our invalid votes supposed to be 25%?
If so, to make up for it, we need at least 1.562.500 votes.

Let's make the gaming industry a better place. Get more people to vote. Get your parents too.

>>714900980
>>714901045
1. You don't control the government. You vote for people or groups which control it, and may or may not use that power in your interests.
2. Your arbitrary rules will not make games better, but they will force every game to follow the same business model. Nothing new will be created, and that's without touching the utterly retarded shit like "you have to let people cheat" and "no sequels."

TOTAL CORPO DEATH

>>714897363 (OP)
>I'm too poor to pay for online
>I'm too gullible to not buy lootboxes
>I said nigger despite agreeing not to
>I'm too stupid to not fall into FOMO
>I'm retarded enough to be fooled by ads
Did I miss anything? Why does OP sound like such a whiny little bitch?

>>714898418
>>714897693
>a bill stopping american companies from assraping europeans, signed by a million europeans, is foreign interference
LOL the shills are on full mental gymnastics.

>>714901880
Why was this not in your big beautiful bill? Why do you need to have American e celebs to rile up foreign people? Whatcha doing?

>>714901842
>I'm too much of a faggot to stop licking corpo boot

>>714902112
Big Beautiful Bill is an American bill, retard.

>>714897363 (OP)
>>714897592
>>714900628
>>714901770


It’s not your property commie

The company made the game
The shareholders invested the capital
It’s theirs, by all rights, they can do whatever they want with it as their IP for all of time.
You paid for a license, as you would pay a landlord to live on his property. You cannot make changes to it without permission just like you can’t tear down apartment walls.

Know your fucking place.

You will get everything you ask for but nothing you wanted, losers.

>>714902201
So why the fuck was this not in it? Why do you need to go influence foreign people to sign your fucking petition? How the fuck is this not foreign interference? You fucking retard.

>>714902290
Suck my fat dick

>>714902183
>this much projecting
I really hit a nerve, didn't I?

>>714902312
>why is a european law proposition not in an American bill
Are you retarded?

>MUH CORPORATIONS
>BOOTLICKER
when did communists infest /v/?

>>714902404
Why are Americunts starting a petition in Europe? Stop snorting fentanyl.

>>714897517
Bad example because niggers exist and break every law and jews just let them do it with impunity, and in jewish hellscapes like california they change the law so that niggers can nig even harder.

>>714902458
When Steam became 60% russian and chinese.

>>714902458
>Getting buttfucked by the government bad
>Getting buttfucked by corporations good
You niggers would argue that water is not wet just to be contrarians

>I hate corporations
>I hate the government

>>714897363 (OP)
No cheat codes so they can sell "convenience"
... in a single player game

>>714897693
>American youtubers started a petition in the EU

It was started by an American living in Poland and married to a Polish woman. He's been here so long he's probably a citizen.

>>714897693
>American youtubers started a petition
Look at the names on the petition you absolute fucking retard.

Anyone who is against this is either a retarded troll or paid by the industry to spread negativity against it

>>714902481
The only signatures that are valid are European. Do you even know what you're talking about?

>>714898007
>CUTHSSHET
what does that mean? cut the shit?

>>714903703
>nature is the same as multibillion dollar corporations
I guess we shouldn't have laws against murder because restricting murderers would be the same as restricting nature.

>>714897363 (OP)
All of those are okay I guess. But the entire thing isn't even helping game preservation
What about
>If a company goes under, they are forced to release all source code and assets
>If a game license is expired, it is required to upload as shareware
>All video games should be publicly available for purchase. As long as the company that developed the game still exists I should be able to buy it along with the original hardware

>>714903703
Think of all those poor always online indie games! Jesus this stuff has really shown how many fucking bots there are here.

>>714904140
>can't into analogies
you're screwing with complex systems that you know next to nothing about

>>714904167
What about
>When a developer puts a game for sale, every purchase has the complete source code for the game included for free and if you decide to refund the game, you keep the source code

>>714904278
I think that might be a bit extreme. If nobody owns the property to the code, it should at least be available for preservation.
Or even auctioned off would be sufficient I suppose

>>714904276
Uh, what system?

>>714904892
In this case, the videogame industry.

>>714897693
>A local politician said; How is this not foreign interference? American youtubers started a petition in the EU
And that's where I stopped reading.

It's literally impossible for anyone but EU member state nationals to start an ECI.
Your local politician is a fucking moron.

>>714905285
We know plenty about it.

>>714897693
>EU bureaucrats try their best to make themselves important for 20 years
>legislate a fucking leash on bottlecaps
>Amerisharts come crying and shitting to EU bureaucrats to save them
>"uuuh, sorry sweetie, that would be foreign interference"

Will he mold the movie now?

Communist scum go back to leftypol where you belong.