Sora is so fucking cool in KH2 and frankly I'm tired of pretending otherwise

He's an asshole in KH2

>>714910929 (OP)
yeah he was a fucking weenie in every other game

>>714910979
He mogs every Organization member effortlessly and has Roxas's rage. It makes sense he'd be pissed

>>714910979
>asshole
that's CoM

>>714910929 (OP)
Based. Cooler in 1 though.

>>714910929 (OP)
He was a real warrior in 2, always ready to use the enemies weakness against them in any way, really made you feel like he grew up

>>714910929 (OP)
Sora in CoM is his final form, a man with nothing to lose.

>>714910979
Nah, but he was gay as shit
>reunites with Kiari: whatever that's cool i guess
>reunites with Riku: breaks down crying while clutching him

Some post the webm where he absolutely mogs Xemnas in their 1v1 on the sky scraper. Sora wasn't fucking around in 2. Going right for the kill with each member

>>714911724
he just really wanted to touch keyblades with him ok

>>714911724
Bros>hoes

Really that simple. Besides he had his breakdown moment over Kairi in 1.

>>714910929 (OP)
>sora in kh1
>new to the game but with potential to become great
>sora in kh2
>reaches the potential and goes further beyond thus becoming a great warrior that isn't afraid to play dirty and exploits all openings he gets
>sora after kh2
>lame ass "professional" fighting style that feels like a downgrade to his previous way of fighting

>>714911198
>>714911613
Speaking of CoM should i play the GB or PS2 version? If they are not that long perhaps i will play both.

Drive Forms were kino and frankly I'm tired of pretending otherwise

>>714912176
GBA plays better, PS2 has proper cutscenes

>>714912256
PS2 has lord of the castle, amazing song

>>714912176
gameplay-wise the GBA version feels much better to play, the 3D gameplay on PS2 fucks up the card battle mechanics, feels much slower in comparison imo and a slog to play. On the other hand, it's good to have animated cinematics in the PS2 version.

>>714911724
>kairi is literally safe at their home the whole time, only getting kidnapped near the end but she breaks out on her own. She was last seen a few days ago at worst, and has multiple good guys vouching for her safety
>riku has been missing for years and was thought dead or possessed again, the king outright refusing to say anything on the topic even when pressed
>"wtf why did he have a bigger reaction to riku what is he gay???"
Stop being so autistic anon. This isn't even a media literacy thing, you outright weren't paying attention to the game.

>>714912215
I really love Anti Form despite the disadvantages you get from it. They should have made it into an actual optional form where Sora takes better control of his darkness, changing the moveset a little to fit his new capabilities.

>>714911724
what these anons said >>714911892 >>714912707
sora cares about kairi just as much. he kills himself to bring kairi back twice ffs (once in 1, again in 3)
the "kingdom hearts is gay" meme comes from the same retards that think persona 4 is about trannies

>can steal the ORG members weapons and use it against them
My favorite is when you win the mini game against Luxord and throw his cards back at him and getting the extra keyblades from winning the dual RC when fighting Roxas

Looking back, was it a kino boss fight?

>>714910929 (OP)
5 years.

>>714912914
>They should have made it into an actual optional form
The anti-form system might as well be called anti-fun, especially when you want to transform in a boss fight. So fucking stupid.

>>714913809
One of the best

>>714913951
It was like a high risk high reward type of thing to me. Anti Form made a few bosses extremely easy to beat with how much damage you can deal with it.

Anyone know any games with gameplay like Kingdom Hearts?
For now i only know about this game in development:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfEuwwFz_UY

>>714913809
Absolutely, still one of the best bosses in the series and the best final boss.

>>714911613
COM Sora was cold-blooded

>>714910929 (OP)
why does he actually look younger and like a toddler in kh3

>>714916419
Way worse engine and art style

>>714916419
Because the creators and writers for KH 1 and 2 haven't existed since the SE merger decades ago. Nomura doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and neither does Nojima; from writing Sora to the new artstyle shift with UE4.

>>714915059
>see obvious IA art in the thumbnail
already let's see how bad it is
>it's a 1-1 copy of KH1 retextured
holy kek, jeets back at it again.

>>714916419
cool vs cute aesthetic. KH1/2 were made for kids who thought sora was "cool" and KH3 was made for washed up adults and fujos who could only think he's "cute"

>>714915059
If there were a series with KH1 action/RPG mechanics where both stats and gameplay mattered and has worlds of that variety/scale, we wouldn't still be talking about Kingdom Hearts.

>>714910929 (OP)
Good times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vhSjYVn23Y

>>714913334
>sora cares about kairi just as much. he kills himself to bring kairi back twice ffs
That's because he's the generic pure of heart character that would sacrifice himself for others.
Meanwhile he starts breaking down into tears the moment he finds the person that sent that betrayed him and sent his whole universe into hell just he was bored living of staying in the same universe he was in and because he was jealous he got a pet duck and dog.

>>714913809
the best final boss in any video game to this day imo

Sora gets worse as he ages

Did you guys make any KH2 AMVs when you were younger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o9q2NRt58g

>>714919449
I fucked around with it a lot but only finished a couple. One to Redemption and the other to New World. You'll never find them.

>>714919449
not KH2 but...
>EVERYBODY FINDS LOOOOOVE IN THE END
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHeyxvvdQuY

>>714911724
One he had no idea where the fuck Riku was and Riku didn't let Mickey just tell them he was okay. The other was safe for most of the game and the other half was just held captive, as Org XIII needed a means to keep Sora killing Heartless. You forget the scene where he gets on his hands and knees and begs Saïx to free her, which is one of the most demeaning things you could do in front of your enemy. She meant more to him than his dignity.

>>714910929 (OP)
lol lmao even

Ah yes, KH2.....the Forced-Downtime-Boss-Fight game

>>714910929 (OP)
Yeah, shame what happened to him in DDD since he never recovered

>>714921930
Who?

>>714913809
The entire boss rush was so well paced and pulled off and then it ends on this banger with one of the best soundtracks and most hyped moments ever.

This was also when shounen anime fights were about being as hyped as possible and having your signature move finisher. I'm not sure if it aged well for zoomers not growing up in that time. But man when I played that as a young teen back in 2005 it was visceral. After I finished it I invited all of my friends back to my house and I replayed the boss rush in front of them and they all lost their minds over how cool this shit was.

>>714910979
Gonna cry?

>>714923168
You should be beaten.

>>714913809
It's still the best Kingdom Hearts final boss gauntlet. 1's is mostly enjoyable but also feels a bit messy with slowly destroying the Ansem Heartless ship thing and the laser spam. 3's feels a bit over the place and has an underwater section for some reason, as well as the forced rage form against Xehanort.

The worst is probably Ventus' from BBS. It's not especially long, but having to fight Vanitas and then being forced into a gimmick match without much time to figure it out and being able to miss the finisher sours me the fuck out.

>>714923283
The dragon is shitty but other than that it's rather hype.

>>714923692
>underwater section for some reason
Land(riku), water(kairi), sky(sora)
Get it?

>>714923773
I thought cutting the buildings in half at the dragon was kind of cool.

>>714923787
I guess if that was the goal, it makes more sense, but it still doesn't feel good to play. Especially when the Angler heartless boss isn't particularly enjoyable either.

>>714913809
kino and insanely quotable
>anger and hate are supreme
>we shall go together
>there's no such thing as light
>cursed...keyblade...

>>714911802
so whats the explanation for Sora being so fucking OP naturally? final form is no joke to pull off

Why did Mickey Mouse in a black trenchcoat saying the most emo shit possible hit so right to my young ears?

It's the silliest shit ever but I took it 100% serious at face value when I played it back then. Including thinking the opening and intro were deep and philosophical. It's completely ridiculous in hindsight but I genuinely thought there were deeper layers there for me unpack as if it was a piece of media with something real to say.

Someone despite my rational brain realizing this is not the case even as an adult when I rewatch the openings I still get that emotional feeling like it's something deep, how is that possible?

>>714924258
You were naive.

downloading [deep dive] off limewire in the early 2000s
THOSE WERE THE DAYS

>>714924258
>Including thinking the opening and intro were deep and philosophical
idk about deep and philosophical but it pulls off the feeling of a dream extremely well (talking about the kh1 intro specifically) and implicitly foreshadows much of the story
there's also a lot of jungian themes you can pull from it too but none of that was intended

>>714911724
KH2 is all about saving Riku, like how KH1 was about saving Kairi.

>>714917702
I wanted to reply to your post as well
>>714925008

>>714912256
The gameplay was designed around a small 2d arena where most of your attacks can cover a half or more of the fighting space. The PS2 version uses a big 3d space which slows down the combat a lot and makes a lot of abilities/spells much worse.
The game is very easy in either case but >>714912256
>>714912472
sum it up well.

>>714913335
>spend two hours fighting Roxas just to have an intentionally drawn out and 'cinematic' fight including using the extra keyblades but without dealing too much damage with them.
Surely I'm not the only one who does autistic shit like this.

>>714911724
Real men don't cry for women, except for their mommies.

>>714925089
he didn't get nearly as emotional with kairi despite being what was originally set-up as a love interest in the first game. closest he got was in 3 when xehanort essentially killed her right in-front of him.
this isn't even the only somewhat homo "friendship" in this series such as axel wanting to be roxas again so bad and saix getting jealous of axel wanting to hang out with roxas again so bad.

>>714924258
You can watch/read something knowing it's absurd and still get engaged in it, especially if it's being sincere.
That's the strength of Kingdom Hearts. Of course DisneyxFinal Fantasy is an inherently stupid concept but it takes itself seriously instead of trying to being self-aware, ironic, or self aggrandizing.
It's the same with TGT. You cannot artificially create shit like that, it has to be genuine.

>>714925472
you're just normal. It's extremely rare to find a game series with this much cringe and pure kino all packed into an extremely dense ball

>>714925579
I don't think you understand male bonds very well. I do agree that he was far more emotional in reuniting with Riku but that is entirely consistent and does not imply that he has some homo lust for Riku. He loves Kairi and his entire life has always revolved around Riku.

>>714925857
I'm just saying some moments seem fairly off. Not saying that's what they outright intended.
>and his entire life has always revolved around Riku.
this just sounds a little gay regardless of context desu

>>714925675
>it takes itself seriously instead of trying to being self-aware, ironic, or self aggrandizing
I'm fucking sick of all media being like this nowadays by the way. I miss when things were pulled of with genuine sincerity no matter how it was perceived. The word "cringe" fucked up our media for about ~15 years now. Those "cringe" edgy sonic deviant art drawings we used to make fun of? I think they are "based" now and I wish people were sincere like that again.

Playing this game I thought it was normal for all boys to be attracted to both Kairi and Riku because Sora likes both. Wasn't until I said so openly in my friend group that the bullying started.

>>714927376
LMFAO!

>>714927376
LOL!

It's hard to beat the gay allegations for Sora. Even if he isn't gay.

>>714910929 (OP)
why were you pretending about your opinions on anonymous boards?

when people begrudgingly praise KH combat, they're praising Sora as a character

he is the combat system. he isn't hated like vaan, but he doesn't get respect for how much people love KH (probably because KH story gets confusing)

it doesn't help that Riku is just cooler too

>>714928363
that thought never once crossed my mind playing this. i want my kids to play KH.

practice mental hygiene.

>>714928695
Sure Jan.

>>714912176
PS2 has better cutscenes and lethal frame which makes it the best version objectively

>>714912215
Drive Forms were better than Formchanges
Command Styles are somewhere in the middle

>>714929230
>>714912914
Rage Form >>>>>> AntiForm
Rage Form is literally everything AntiForm should have been from a mechanical perspective

>>714928630
Its telling htat the big three popular KH characters are Sora, Riku, and Roxas. Quite literally the MC, the Rival, and the Mirror. Its just that DDD in particular did a lot of damage to Sora as a character ironically almost inverse to it helping Riku finish his arc.

>>714911724
This is jands down my favorite seen in the whole series for how fucking retarded and gay it is

>>714927376
It's ok anon. I thought the same too.

Still do. Kairi x Riku x Sora for life.

>>714929637
lmfao yeah even as a kid I knew it was retarded

>>714929316
it's a diluted version of what anti-form was. anti-form was risk vs reward. if you got it you could decimate whatever you were fighting if you knew what you were doing. There's no real risk with rage form and it doesn't feel as powerful. anti form was the fastest form in the game and it made it seem like were ripping whatever you were fighting to shreds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5EL7xn7os

>>714929805
I wanted a fucking kiss right at this moment in kh3 remind. We saved the godamn disney universe 3 times and just broke the law of time and space
too save this spinky haired jailbait tomboy girlfriend and it gets interrupted.

Nomura is the biggest autistic teasing edging faggot in all of gaming. And I don't want to hear any of that BS "Well, it's Disney" Aladdin and Jasmine we're sucking each other's souls out after the romantic carpet ride in that movie.

Nomuras sins can only be forgiven if gives us a mickey vs yoda in 4.

>>714911198
if being an asshole means not being a pussy

>>714930623
lol yeah Nomura is out of his mind. He's cagey as fuck with any ship. Even more so with those two than others.

>>714910929 (OP)
KH1 design is the best. The onesie is cute.

>>714930623
>mickey vs yoda in 4
what's mickey's style? would he have to go mage?

>>714931361
Mickey generally is shown to be like prequel Yoda in his combat but with a higher use of spells, in particular Light magic like Holy.

>>714926256
Only people that latch onto things being cringe and it mattering enough that you should consider not consuming said cringe media are mentally children. If you figured out that it doesn't matter and you should do what makes you happy, you cannot be happy.

>>714926164
Like I said, it just sounds like you're incapable of having a close relationship with another man without feeling gay.

>>714927376
Kek

Why did they nerf Sora so hard after KH2?

>>714933482
Too badass

>>714933242
>Like I said, it just sounds like you're incapable of having a close relationship with another man without feeling gay.
anon riku backstabbed him the moment he caught sora hanging out with a duck and a dog. sent the whole universe they were from into hell. soras gotta have a little anger at him even if he still cares about his well being. Yea Riku was did get possessed be he still did a lot of the bad actions that happened.

>>714933482
everything after 2 went full retard. It wasn't even necessary since they barely scraped past Ansem/Xemnas. Full powered nort should have been a complete otherworldly beast and enough by himself to craft one final non-convoluted scenario, but a straightforward story like that would have been too simple and clean

>>714933638
They spent their entire lives together since they were toddlers and did practically everything either. Riku regretted his actions afterwards and was explicitly avoiding Sora out of shame. Why would Sora still be angry at him?
You might just genuinely be autistic if you cannot understand this kind of close relationship.

>>714934007
everything together*

Is this game series worth getting into?

>>714930109
>anti-form was risk vs reward.
Anti Form was dogshit at being Risk V Reward because it was effectively pure RNG (regardless of the stupid point system with completely nonsensical rules). Rage Form is FAR better at being Risk VS reward because it's purely opt-in and requires you to either gamble your moveset for health or gamble your health to get your moveset back.

Anti Form being potentially powerful to people who have obsessed over KH2 for 20 years doesn't make it any less fucking annoying to 90% of players.

>>714934283

>>714934007
I'm just saying he should have a more reasonable response to finding Riku, he should be relieved but still a little fucking cautious. especially since he looks like the motherfucker that tried to kill all of them. I don't get your projection about me being gay and autistic when you're the blowing everything into extremes. Sora could be cautious but relieved at first and slowly become bros again afterwards. pic you posted is (you) rn

>>714934415
The way the guy's drawn...this wasn't made by him, was it?

>>714934328
All I hear is "I'm not a gamer."
Also, who gives a fuck if it was annoying. That's kind of the point. It was a darkness form in Kingdom fucking Hearts, its more of a punishment then anything.

>>714934546
Seconded.

>>714934415
but will I enjoy it if I liked FF7 remake combat?

>>714934328
i wouldn't mind rage form in kh3 if they didn't neuter it so hard. feels like just another one of the lame as weapon transformation changes and the little sparkler lights don't look as cool.
also this >>714934739

>>714934283
Yeah, 1.5 -> Re:CoM -> 2.5 for a solid trilogy. Or you can go whole hog and join our collective headache.

>>714911724
And this homo still got in over Geno

>>714936068
yeah from what I'm seeing there are 3 colllections but only the first collection seem to have the most important games

>>714910979
t. Effeminate faggot

>>714926256
Sincerity will always be above irony.

>>714934546
>he should be relieved but still a little fucking cautious
I explained why that would not be the case and you're not addressing it. The only explanation is that you're too autistic to understand it.

>>714937529
He literally looks like the guy that tried to kill all of them and He knows that Riku is susceptible to manipulation at this point even if he's somewhat redeemed himself. I'm not asking for the entire game to be changed but the reaction when he sees riku again is still weird. the part where riku joins the part is still peak and that shouldn't be changed. Just show that he's relieved to see his friend again without pissing and shitting himself. Again (you)'re the one projecting.

>>714937872
Still not addressing what I posted, just repeating yourself.
>Again (you)'re the one projecting.
Unless you address and explain away the fact that they have been together since toddlers, doing everything together, it just sounds like sour grapes. He knows Riku more than enough for it to be natural. As for him looking like Ansem, Sora does react to his appearance before getting a closer look so I'm not sure what you're trying to say unless you don't remember the scene yourself.

>>714938232
>Unless you address and explain away the fact that they have been together since toddlers, doing everything together, it just sounds like sour grapes
I'm not saying he has to have a vendetta against him, i'm not even saying that he can't forgive him quickly. Them being together since toddlers would infact help sora forgive him quickly but the breakdown he had is still out of proportion. Rikus betrayal should sting just as much as him missing him. especially since they were friends since they were little.
>As for him looking like Ansem, Sora does react to his appearance before getting a closer look so I'm not sure what you're trying to say unless you don't remember the scene yourself.
I mean that the consequences of Rikus actions still has some effect on him and Sora wouldn't really know if Riku is still 100% in control even if he's been doing nothing but helping the entire time. again you're being very autistic bpd about this

my naive hope is that kh4 will recapture some of the chuuni/emo edge that made the earlier games so cool

>>714910979
>hot topic wannabes constantly causing unprecedented bullshit to the point where even Maleficent has had enough
>actively harming his friends
>takes the fight to them and shows them up HARD
>”n-no he’s an asshole!!”
Nope he’s justified
Kill all Org fags
>m-muh feels please I don’t have a heart
I don’t fucking care

what was up with ansem(/xehanort)'s daterape cave on destiny island in the first like hour of KH1

>>714939251
i honestly doubt it, he had been losing the vision for kh ever since he finished kh2 and especially when he never got to release his ff game and decided to insert it in kh.

>>714939003
>Rikus betrayal should sting just as much as him missing him. especially since they were friends since they were little.
Did you forget the ending of KH1 or the lead in to CoM? Their adventure was to find Riku.
>again you're being very autistic bpd about this
You're the one who initially claimed that it was homo-erotic so again, this comes off as you now just being upset for getting called out on it. You're not even being rational anymore.

>>714940785
>Did you forget the ending of KH1 or the lead in to CoM? Their adventure was to find Riku.
Yea but do you think Sora wouldn't be a little hurt that his best friend had little to no faith in him?
>You're the one who initially claimed that it was homo-erotic so again, this comes off as you now just being upset for getting called out on it. You're not even being rational anymore.
Sorry anon i know people with autism have hard time telling when someone is being humorous or not. We'll try to keep you filled in next time champ

>>714940915
also the adventure was to find both of his friends, and to understand what was going on. Riku kept being an asshole to Sora for a lot of it. If Sora had to cry in that scene it should be that he finally truly reunited with his friends again for real for the first time in a long time, not just by finding Riku.

>>714939251
The Quadratum part of the KH4 trailer looked edgy as fuck with that Sora and the new Darkside design.

>>714941067
thanks for the transparent image gugle

>>714940915
>Yea but do you think Sora wouldn't be a little hurt that his best friend had little to no faith in him?
Which happens throughout the entirety of the first game and is resolved by the end at which point Riku tells him to take care of Kairi while he stays behind and Sora sets out to find him. We then get the entirety of KH2 with Sora looking for him (and COM although his memory is wiped).
Why you think after all that he'd be kicking the ground and bitter at Riku, especially given who Sora is as a character and what Riku is to Sora, seems to be grounded in nothing but your own desperate desire to cling to this unsupported argument. You have nothing based in the actual games or the characters to support your own bizarre fixation.
>Sorry anon i know people with autism have hard time telling when someone is being humorous or not. We'll try to keep you filled in next time champ
You're really bitter about this aren't you?
Especially coming from
>this just sounds a little gay regardless of context desu

Not one of you niggers brought up how this is ONLY the Xehanort Saga so far.

>>714941327
You're taking way out of proportion here
>Why you think after all that he'd be kicking the ground and bitter at Riku
When did i say he should be completely bitter? all i'm saying that him crying is a bit unreasonable and a little comical for the moment. Not even saying it's a bad scene
>>Sorry anon i know people with autism have hard time telling when someone is being humorous or not. We'll try to keep you filled in next time champ
>You're really bitter about this aren't you?
>Especially coming from
>>this just sounds a little gay regardless of context desu
golly anon sorry that i was being a little humorous, i forgot i was on 4chan after all.

>>714941782
I heard that kh4 is gonna be the last one. There's no way he's gonna pull this shit again for another 20 years

>>714941832
>When did i say he should be completely bitter? all i'm saying that him crying is a bit unreasonable and a little comical for the moment. Not even saying it's a bad scene
If you want to backpedal and retroactively tone down and retract your own arguments, that's fine, but your old posts are still just above.
>golly anon sorry that i was being a little humorous, i forgot i was on 4chan after all.
Is that how you're trying to spin how bitter your last few posts were?

>>714910929 (OP)
put him in a fighting game!

2FM is the best game ever made

>>714941898
someone didn't see the ending of 3 and the mobile slop storylines that are just getting started
everything so far was just the prologue

>>714942361
it never ceases to amaze me how serious people here get with arguments, no matter how dumb.
I'm not even gonna say anything else but at-least this has been funny if you're trolling
>>golly anon sorry that i was being a little humorous, i forgot i was on 4chan after all.
>Is that how you're trying to spin how bitter your last few posts were?
lmao

>>714942656
Tell that to square enix and disney when they finally pull a hideo on him and tell him to finish up on his shit

>>714942689
who do you think we learned it from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZs29IAu3c

>>714942689
see pic in
>>714942361

>>714910929 (OP)
He peaked in KH2, just like the series itself

>>714939251
Nothing will reach even days anymore.

>>714913809
this is genuinely one of the best bosses in all of video games

>>714933482
Sora gets nerfed in every game to justify being Lv.1 in the next release.
Same is true for 4 already.

>>714913809
even the entire lead up was fucking great

kh2fm gameplay is so fucking good

>>714939251
With Nomura's literal crusade to save fucking everyone, I doubt it. Emo edge requires there actually being consequence and death mattering. Unless youre in a fucking phone game of all things you are guaranteed not to suffer anymore

>>714946071
It's still my favorite by far but I really like modded Kh3 remind

Falling to your knees and sobbing for another man is gay no matter what dude. You can bro hug and pat him on the back but that shit is fucking gay.

KH4
>Replaced the villain from KH1-3 with comic relief Marvel quipping mobile gacha character who appeared in 2 cutscenes in the actual games for 6 minutes and 36 seconds
>Organization XIII is replaced with mobile gacha characters who have cardboard one dimensional personalities and appeared in 1 cutscene for 2 minutes and 55 seconds in the actual games
>In order to understand backstory you need to play mobile gacha (WHICH IS OFFLINE NOW)
>Another mobile gacha that was supposed to contain crucial backstory got cancelled
>QTEs
>Strong woman representation
>Unreal Engine 5
>Nomura is retiring and giving away the franchise to literally who
IT'S OVER

>>714947163
You have never experienced true brotherhood which makes you gay and not a true bro.

>>714942529
lucky for you, they did

>>714910929 (OP)
Cool? Sora looks cool. He has cool powers. But his personality is not cool. He's an idiot with no common sense. And I do blame Chain of Memories for how Sora transformed into an idiot. How the fuck can Sora forget that he turned into a Heartless to rescue Kairi some love of his life if he forgets such a traumatic event. The irony is that Sora said that while he was a Heartless he was starting to forget who he was. And I hate how Sora is so dumb that he could not figure out Roxas is his Nobody until Riku directly told him.

Sora being stupid is one of the worst parts of Kingdom Hearts and sadly between Tai Yasue, Nojima, and Nomura the damage is permanent. Sora has no chance and its sickening how Japan worships idiocy. Japan's most famous heroes are all fucking stupid and I'm not talking about Goku from Dragon Ball. Japan is supposed to be a culturally gifted culture where academia is important yet their pop culture glorifies being Super Stupid.

This is awful. And its gotten worse now they worship stupidity and being a wimp. Expect Sora to become a bigger loser wuss.

>>714942529
Surprised Sora has never been added to Soul Calibur or Marvel vs Capcom. Hell Disney has their own racing game and they refuse to put Sora in Disney Speedstorm. One of the easiest characters to implement in a roster and he's not put in.

>>714947941
>they worship stupidity and being a wimp
Qrd? Last I checked all the stupid MCs are also the kind to jump at death without giving a fuck.

But yeah, I guess Disney told Nomura he needed to be more kid friendly to mesh with Disney characters and DDD shitted in him harder.

>>714936232
Fun fact Geno's job is to destroy anyone who crosses over into Mario's universe. So if Sora trespassed Geno would have to kill him. Sora would have to kill Geno in self defense.

>>714947941
Their MCs are stupid because their culture does not allow much self expression.
So having an idiot as your MC means you have someone who is to dumb to care and therefore is free of expectations placed upon them.
Its extreme escapism from a culture that has functioned under a soft martial law for so long it is in many regards their culture.

>>714948143
Disney didn't do a thing. Japan loves idiots. Look at Satoshi from Pokemon. Look at Naruto. Look at Deku from Hero Academia. In fact look at Eren from Attack on Titan he's a pussy. Japanese media loves idiot weaklings.

Don't know how it works in their live media but for their animated media they glorify hideous traits like not having common sense. Be incompetent and somehow someone will bail you out or give you Deus Ex Machina super powers to help you win at life. No logic no sensible writing.

>>714948016
I think he's joint-owned by SE and Disney so getting him into a game is a real fucker in terms of rights

>>714948143
Shonen manga is the entirety of japanese cultule apparently

>>714948379
But it makes for awful stories look at isekai. Be a loser in life and inexplicably because you know how to play video games in a new world you are considered an alpha male.......this is stupid.

>>714947941
Sora being dumb was forgivable up the end of 2 as he's literally just a kid. Him (and the rest of the cast for that matter) being retarded all through BBS and 3 was not.

>>714947417
Collapsing is fruity nigga. You can kneel for a bro when he's down but that's it. KH characters don't have a sex drive at the end of the day anywho. A simulacrum of gayness if you will.

>>714948535
Namine gave him brain damage.

>>714948472
Yeah but its simply not for you, its for them and they enjoy it.

>>714912215
The only thing I hate bout Drive Forms is that you can't max level them up as soon as you get a Drive form. You need to wait til the end of the game with Final Form so you can be allowed to finish maxing the old forms. And hate how even when you max the forms you can't get a truly maximized mobility ability. That means Sora's Double Jump will always be worse than Master Form's Double Jump.

>>714948397
>Look at Satoshi from Pokemon. Look at Naruto
As far as I remember they're idiots but nothing like Deku and Eren are real pussies tho.

>Don't know how it works in their live media but for their animated media they glorify hideous traits like not having common sense. Be incompetent and somehow someone will bail you out or give you Deus Ex Machina super powers to help you win at life
This? You got it right but that's not really exclusive to shounen slop, just look at stuff like Batman

>>714910929 (OP)
Anyone else think Kingdom Hearts 4 will sell mediocre?

>>714948016
Disney seems ashamed of KH outside of Japan. I went to Disney World last year and this was legitimately the single piece of merch I saw in the entire park. Literally saw more shit for Meet the fucking Robinsons .

>>714916898
Making Sora Asian has made him uglier.

>>714948745
Depends on when it actually releases but I imagine it'll do fine just off hype. I just don't foresee it doing well enough to continue the series afterwards. They'll put in shit like Star Wars to give it better general appeal.

>>714916419
I am still mad KH3 looks worse than KH2's FMVs. Higher poly count and higher quality textures doesn't make up for a solid art style. And now we are stuck with Nomura's closeted fantasy Jpop star fuck boy Sora in KH4, which I am hoping is only his look for that specific world.

>>714926718
Sora may not be Jesus but he has more in common with Archangel Michael the leader of God's Armies. Sora literally is the one who inflicts justice on the wicked. It's also poetic that Maleficent's powers of Hell have her transform into a hellish dragon similar to Lucifer during the Bible. So Sora beating Maleficent mirrors Michael kicking out Lucifer out of Heaven. And it helps Sora is capable of growing an angel's wing as Remind showed.

>>714948938
Nomura has a great working relationship with Disney japan but KH was a product of the late Eisner era. Iger's Disney never had a place for it.Thanks to the stricter branding expectations and the lack of a proper western advocate.
Hell even the creatives outside of the Pixar Guys have only ever expressed embarrassment or distain over it to my knowledge.

>>714948745
Even if it does good enough it won't matter because Nomura is retiring , I really doubt they can fuck it up Even more.

But then again they fucked up with Final Fantasy and Disney has been doing a lot of stupid shit too

>>714913809
GONNA LOSE IT ALL

>>714922737
>posts the worst boss in the game to elucidate his argument

>>714948941
Sora was always asian tho, changing his hair is what fucked him since it went from dark brown to almost blond

Did this guy do something particularly heinous in the past for all of his posts to always get nigh instadeleted?

>>714949586
Who knows? This happens in every KH thread.

>>714949857
I just find it funny that there's a dozen other spamming schizos and they're all a thousand times worse than this guy that just comes into every KH thread to go on a tirade about how it doesn't tackle equal rights for furries and shit.

>>714950856
maybe they're a mod and just wipe out all their shitposts when they're done for the day

>>714910929 (OP)
KH2 Sora was cool, but he also started the Sora is a dumbass thing that got used every game since.

>>714912041
>play dirty and exploits all
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>>714949364
such an anime line

>>714914036
Re:Coded has some of the best combat in the entire franchise, but jesus christ is it a horrible slog of a game otherwise.

>>714955604
That's because what good is having good gameplay IF you are regurgitating the same worlds from the first game for a third time and with a story that aborts itself near the end? And to finish it off Data Sora is not an important character even after he gets his memory erased. Nothing about him during the epilogue revelation matters.

Good gameplay but trapped in a WORTHLESS experience. I hate the Command Deck but Re Coded did it decently. Shame it was wasted like this. Oh well Square Enix is shit. Hope they die.

>>714914036
Sky boy.