Thread 714963386

is SS13 dead for good?
>pop for all ""big"" servers like tg and goon have cratered
>servers that actually have pop are erp havens, aliens pvp, and flavour-of-the-month medieval servers (also erp)
>interesting new content has dried up on most servers, all you get now is slightly better looking art
>every player is either a jaded murderboner or uses the game as a glorified chatbox with their metafriends
>ss14 is full of faggots and failed to understand the core mechanics of regular ss13 when they implemented pixel movement, among other things
i miss it so much

I think the glut of mainstream social deduction games have given so many more viable alternatives to broad audiences that people have either moved on or not bothered to engage with SS13's hyper-autismo.

I haven't played in years but I went to download BYOND a few weeks back and found out it was being DDOSed by a some guy wanting it to become public or something.
>pop for all ""big"" servers like tg and goon have cratered
Used to play on Paradise all the time, has that died as well? Wild.

I don't understand why anyone would choose this game as their ERP spot...

>>714963740
I never play on it, but looking at current player counts it seems to be doing a bit better than /tg/ right now. Server patreon appears to have dropped a bit, however.

>>714964161
There's an already existing base of degenerates who in turn attract even more degenerates. Text also leaves more to the imagination, idk.

They got me banned for saying bitch, I was stunned when I asked if it was a joke and they told me to find another server to "ruin"

>>714963386 (OP)
lgbtqwerty ruined it

>>714966692
It was dying long before trannies got their claws into it, but they did hasten the fall.

>>714964161
rp existed and it was boring, so efucking made it more fun

>>714966692
>/tg/ station gets co-opted by off site trannies
>they still keep the name
>lead guy tries to epicallypwn the trannies who kicked him out
>fails since nobody liked him
>he also troons out and then begs pathetically for the troons to shield him from mean 4chan trolls

>>714967749
>said lead guy can't shut the fuck up about men's right activism to the point everyone around him hates him for it
>proceeds to pretend to be a women
legitimately what the fuck did he mean by this

>>714963740
Its been DDOS'd for a few months now, whoever it is they clearly have a large war chest to burn.

>>714968042
the incel to tranny pipeline in action
if he cant get a gf he can become the gf instead

>>714963386 (OP)
raping huge titted elves on roguetown as we speak

>>714968042
Retards are all the same shit yelling about different flavors of stupidity.

>>714964912
Goon admins are some of the funniest neckbeards imagineable
>DON'T YOU DARE USE THE B WORD, DON'T YOU KNOW IT DEMEANS WOMEN AND PROMOTES OBJECTICATION OF WOMEN????
C'mon dude, its clear you've never touched a woman beyond your mom. Typing this shit isn't going to get you the e-girlfriend of your dreams

>>714968118
How much does a constant DDOS attack cost anyway?

>>714968560
Depends on the scale and sheer amount of traffic you need to shut down everything. It's not something you could casually buy like 100 bucks a month so whoever doing it must be a rich neet

>>714968814
could be a retard with a credit card and daddy's money, like that one dude who spent 200k on some streamer whore, before killing his family when they confronted him about it.

>>714963386 (OP)
is fulp dead?

>>714963386 (OP)
/vg/station is still trucking along. ironically the thread shunted to /vm/, but /vm/station died so it's whatever.

>>714969163
yes lol

>>714963386 (OP)
>failed to understand the core mechanics of regular ss13 when they implemented pixel movement
Occasional player of 13 but moved to 14, can you explain what you mean by this? The movement is is one of the best improvements to me but it's unclear how you could think it works against core mechanics.

>>714969342
A large part of combat was being able to body block people, either cornering them in maints or blocking their way through a door, etc. Space was limited, you could only fit so many niggas in a room before things got stupid, now you can just have ten seccies packed together like sardines in a space that would normally only fit three. Everyone slides past each other like a sack of marbles, there's no presence or weight anymore. Trying to move through doorways is also a major bitch, feels like I'm drunk and trying to fit my keys in the hole, I just keep bumping my hitbox against the sides until I manage to squeeze through. Someone could present this more eloquently but whatever.

>>714963386 (OP)
ill pop on monke station and just play janitor for the doctors. pretty comfy

>>714969245
>look in the /vm/ thread
>literally the same shit as five years ago
talk about stagnant.

>>714969875
No I think I understand.
Whilst I can agree in part, It doesn't stop the space from feeling crowded or prevent people accidentally whacking each other with stuff.
For me it's also far more readable what's happening at any time and a huge improvement when moving objects around.

>>714970669
I'm also not a fan of the UI design, lighting and how most sprites look when they have been pixel shifted off the main tile, but those are lesser, more personal issues.

>>714970452
And that's why it continues to drag itself along

I unironically prefer SS14. My feeble brain can actually handle the two digit frames per second it runs on.

>>714969163
They moved to ss14, now a goobstation downstream

>SS14 still hasn't opened public beta

Still dead to me

>>714971052
have they implemented the limb system yet, that was a major turn off for me. if i can't set off a bomb and watch leg-and-armless people hobble away from the epicenter, why even play?

The 3D test that Yogstation did a couple years ago was kino. Probably the best proof of concept for actually immersing you into "a paranoia-laden round-based roleplaying game set against the backdrop of a nonsensical, metal death trap masquerading as a space station" that the game advertises itself as.

>>714971184
goobstation and its forks did

>>714971548
what's goobstation? is that like the goon version of ss14?

>>714971727
>goon
nope
think tg but for zoomers

>>714963386 (OP)
nortubel is more alive

>>714963386 (OP)
admins with god complex have been ruining this game for more than a decade
the worst part is that every alternative fucking sucks, been playing ostranauts instead to fill the void but it’s absolute trash for the most part

>>714968042
>had a meltdown, lost his free patreondollar cash stream and became a tranny; all because someone called him an incel

>>714967749
>/tg/ station gets co-opted by off site trannies
They even renamed it TGstation because they didn't want to be associated with the chuds.

>>714973223
>/tg/ station
>named after the board: traditional games
>uh oh le hecking chuds made the name, lets subvert it
>change it to TG station
>transgender station
normally I would feel bad but /tg/ became reddit incarnate a decade ago so it kinda fits

>>714971137
it's open, you just need to do some shit to join it on steam.

its been dead for a long time

gonna be honest I only remembered Uma Musume existed after seeing this video on my YT feed randomly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oydEJzjVJT4
Apparently Nice Nature's seiyuu got into a boyfriend scandal, if you can call it that

>>714963740
>>714968118
>they dont know
its literally a group of trannies DDOSing it to try and armtwist BYOND into being open source. No Im not kidding. They even sent a fucking letter demanding it be made open source or they would begin DDOSing until it was

>>714974903
what the fuck, I literally had an uma thread open in another tab

>>714975489
Of course a horsefucker would post in a ss13 thread kek

>>714970452
The thread is not where stuff happens, but recent happenings off the top of my head
>new map proposed - undercooked and sent back to the kitchen
>synergy (old map) getting some updates
>changes to the smithing minigame
>added sfx for several machines
>research archive added as a r&d objective
>tetris game machine updated, pretty good - I don't like tetris
>painting tools expanded
>new power reactor added
>new gene added
Not major changes, but a decent variety of flavor I'd say

>>714976749
still pretty lacking imo

>>714970669
NTA. I don't really get this? If you have loads of people crammed in a tight space that's how it should exactly feel and play. SS13 is a silly game, but basic grounding elements like that helps to enable the RP experience and make the silly elements comparatively more impactful. Like how the Wizard is fundamentally funny because it's just a generic fantasy mad wizard with no sci-fi attachments like a game such as Mass Effect has to make it feel less out of place just plopped onto an otherwise consistently sci-fi space station.

>>714963386 (OP)
Everyone moved to SS14.

SS13 was on the decline for years. I started playing it back in 2010-2011 when Goonstation was huge. Fell in love with it before I eventually graduated and had to get a job. Looking back at it, the only reason you'd get banned was OOC metagaming, ERP, and griefing but last week my younger cousin got banned for failing to heal someone as a doctor because he was "on break."

>>714977506
What server?

ss13 is still gatekept by byond (probably for the better) but all of its communities are hyper niche and have little overlap since the servers are so differet. ssethtide among other big publicity things attracted players and devs who just want TTT and without really good design direction, admins, and a decent playerbase it won’t be a good social deduction game

ss14’s official servers runs into pretty much all of the same problems on top of being excessively woke to the point it saturates too deeply and takes away from actually making the game and experience fun.
>t. former ss14 project manager

>>714968042
Watching this faggot appeal to trannies and libfaggots like vektor only for them to turn around and stab him right in the gut was the most satisfying thing.
The real beginning of the end of /tg/ was when this faggot took over and that bald kiwi sexpest oranges ruined botany and xenobio.

>>714971727
goob station is a fork of the tranny upstream codebase. Lots of shitcode additions (like limb damage and various antags) and a different philosophy towards game balance (in other words, fun is allowed). Highly recommend anyone thinking of trying SS14 to skip the official Wizden severs and go straight to Goob. You'll still get banned for saying the nigger word but they know how to have fun. The other day I got an ion law that loosely suggested I could start a fire in medbay and the admins called me based when I did a full plasma flood, rather than instabanning me

>>714979392
>t. former ss14 project manager
What does a project manager do in regards to ss14? Were you coding shit, writing design docs, wrangling tards?

>>714979675
mostly wrangling. the project management was mostly people that had contributed a good deal and would be unlikely to have a violent meltdown. there were lots of annoying and overly specific discussions about what was and wasn‘t enforcable from the administrative side of things to the point our rules were becoming miles long with lengthy and contradictory edge cases being cited for nonsense that didn’t really matter. for some reason everyone thought just throwing twice as many admins at the problem would solve all of the admin related issues we were having and the reality was our headmin was being too autistic about making everything black and white to the point nobody wanted to do anything because the book to do it by was ten chapters long
I never got involved in the code too much because I couldn’t be assed to learn it and having to have all the PRs reviewed was too different then what I was used to which was just pushing whatever I wanted to my ss13 server. the admin team frequently failed to communicate with maintainers though which often resulted in admins doing things for behaviors that should have just been hotfixed or programmed out or changed in design.
the only other thing we dealt with was the hub servers and that was just nonstop issues from russian servers and interserver drama

>>714963386 (OP)
Tranny jannies who micromanage everyone despite never going outside is what killed ss13
>be on CM
>playing standard grunt
>guy asks me to help with stuff at the FoB
>say sure and start building tables and flipping them over
>after the 5th one get bwoinked asking me why I'm building as infantry
>tell him I was asked to
>you're not supposed to do that it's the engineers jobs
>tell him it's just tables they break in two hits so why does it matter
>he tells me I wouldn't know how to even build it
>tell him if the minimum wage workers at ikea can put together a table and chair I'm sure I can too but I doubt you've held a job in your entire life
>bans me for a month

>>714980724
>admins would rather wrist slap people for building tables instead of just programming it so grunts cant build tables
never understood this mindset

>>714980724
This shit became absolute circus last years.
>bwoinked cause i was building "barricades" out of flipped tables as a surgeon
>some faggot lizard bartender building mechas is okay somehow

>>714980724
>>tell him if the minimum wage workers at ikea can put together a table and chair I'm sure I can too but I doubt you've held a job in your entire life
Lmao, worth the ban.

>>714980724
Had a friend who was a long time contributor to CM, they said some mildly dumb but not all that bad shit on the discord and got banned for an insane amount of time, in addition to needing to write some novel length appeal note. They crashed out and haven't touched SS13 in years.

>>714963386 (OP)
Take the IS12 pill.

>>714981269
QRD?

>>714981624
Garloids.

>>714975079
Good; they make people hate them more, and we might even get open source Byond out of it if they cave. Win-win.

>>714981624
A world where only two nations have ever been. The PROUD Redistani authoritarians and the LOATHSOME Bluesnian Democratic citizens.
Blu v Red fought in a big war spanning generations, the Reds have won.
Now they find themself at the highest cultural peak of their nation, and yet the nation ventures in total disrepair for the proud Red patriots need a constant enemy, and their industry has been built from the ground up with a planetary-scale war in mind. Now these lie in disrepair and the people fight pointless patriotism wars over the right shade of RED.
You play as just some guy getting by amidst all that in a backwater bunker thats more or less stable.

>>714984229
>>714981269
>>714981624
Its ruled by meta gangs and discord cliques, dont bother

>>714984625
I'm a regular player and i've never seen that. The game IS discord heavy bc there arent forums or a regular hosting schedule.

>>714980724
Sounds dumb as hell
>why are you putting tables down you can't know how to do that
>I read the pamphlet
>fuck, I'll get you one day

>>714963386 (OP)
Yet another casualty of SJW entryism