Thread 714991101

Why did he shit on Ryuji so much?

Love

You'd like the cat more if it was a girl

>>714991380
I wish it was a girl, honestly.
But I can see why they didn't go that route.
>Sleeps in your bed with you
>Obviously very closely tied with the MC
>Is both a pet companion and a party member
>Making it a girl would imply a lot of things and might make some stuff weird in the future
>MC would have to 'watch out' during conversations like guys always do when girls are involved.

I would have really liked it if they had a pair of balls and just made Mona a girl. It would have been more fun and maybe the relationship between Ryuji and him would have been more comical and less annoying. Two males going at each other constantly gets old fast.

>>714991380
You bet your fucking ass I would. Even had a female name and everything. We were robbed.

>>714991680
>>714991870
Imagine the harem event on Valentine's Day and fem Mona is there.

>>714991101 (OP)
Because he's a mean-spirited prick. Also because he knows Ryuji has what it takes to get with Ann if he really wanted to, while Morgana would always been a cuck, even in the altered reality where he finally becomes human. Morgana sucks, Teddie was way better.

>>714991101 (OP)
He didn't have a litter box

>>714991380
Nah, she'd be an even bigger asshole then Futaba

>>714991380
He's not even really a cat.

>>714991101 (OP)
Insecurity in itself, fuck this thing

>>714992148
My brother's cat learned how to use the shitter like anyone else in the household.
It literally gets up on the toilet seat and shits in the bowl. It doesn't flush, but honestly that's already better than blowing money on litter every month.

>>714991101 (OP)
CAT MORPH INTO FUCKFORM RIGHT THIS VERY INSTANT!!!!

>>714991101 (OP)
Just needs to assert himself as the #2 in the group, since Joker is unmistakably the alpha.

>>714991380
I'd like the cat more if he didn't anally vore you during the escape from the pyramid palace.

>>714991101 (OP)
>arrogant yapping simp who never really changes
>"hope of humanity"
Can't tell if this was intentional or not

>>714991101 (OP)
To have Haru join the party. Without Morgana being a prick to Ryuji, that entire segment of the game doesn't happen.

>>714992838
Good, Haru doesn't contribute anything meaningful anyway due to her late inclusion so it gives the others more time to shine.

>>714992838
>introduce Haru
>have her screentime stolen by the annoying cat
>even her most important scene confronting her father is hijacked half way through because Morgana needed to have a moment

>>714991380
He wouldn't be as erotic.

Envy

>>714991101 (OP)
He spent most of his time in Kamoshida's Palace before joining the team, meaning he was influenced by the palace into thinking Ryuji was a dirtbag and Ann was erotic perfection.

>>714993415
>thinking Ann was erotic perfection.
but, she is?

>>714991101 (OP)
>why does he dislike arrogant and vain loudmouth
gee i wonder
self inserting as ryuji and then getting offended on his behalf is a sign of double digit iq

>>714994210
I did love those moments because I'd always laugh about what a fucking idiot he was.

Fitting though, because at least he acts like a retarded teenager while Joker is busy behaving like a world weary 50 year old.

>>714993415
That actually makes sense

>>714993630
I can't like Ann
Just too on the nose white fetishism with no personality

>>714994210
get off 4chan you useless cat

>>714991680
I would actually have like a cat is fine too

>>714994692
>white fetishism

>>714994692
>white fetishism
Because lord forbid she's just y'know, cute.

>>714994906
Fuck you Ryuji you drooling dimwit I took a shit on your doorstep

>>714991101 (OP)
He wanted to be Joker's best friend

>>714992137
Based teddiechad

>>714991101 (OP)
>Rest of the group commonly teases Ryuji
>Cat lacks any real socialization or social skills
>Desperatly attempts to fit in by any means as they feel more and more isolated and estranged, not even human
>Turns into not understanding the teasing and just desperatly shitting on him because "everybody else does it"
>Or it could just be Kamoshida's palace having crept into him from excess exposure

>>714994692
I don't like (Bl)Ann(d) because she's boring as fuck.

At least it's fun to softly bully her.

>>714992137
Morgana is really just a bitchy version of Teddie which is something no one asked for. Would've been better if he actually died instead of doing yet another fakeout.

>>714999074
>this retarded anal-ysis

The cat immediately recognizes that Ryuji is the dumb and less capable one after meeting both in Kamoshida's sex dungeon at the start of the game. So, being smarter, he has no problem bullying him, and because it's probably not a big deal if he (Ryuji) dies, since Joker is who Morgana needs.

Then, later, Morgana gets butthurt at being outclassed by Futaba, which is why he spergs out and leaves for a while.

>>714991101 (OP)
Because no one else would. Ryuji was a retard loud mouth who was useless and caused nothing but problems.

Morgana was right when he got mad at Ryuji for being obsessed with glory and constantly wanting to show off. Morgana's still a bitch for leaving, but Ryuji's also a retard.

Me and my homies all prefer Teddie and Yosuke.

>>714999448
>who was useless
he's one of the best party members in combat

>>714999448
>who was useless
They all would've died in the destruction of Shido's Palace if not for Ryuji. Ryuji also makes the save against Sumire in the third semester, protecting Ren and Akechi. He's also the one who initially brought the guns into Kamoshida's Palace, which end up being useful means of combat, even if he didn't know they'd transform into real guns in the Metaverse. He's far from useless.

>>714992137
Man I remember the days when I used that Tomoko pfp

He realized he's the Teddy of the game but there's no Yosuke to take the heat off him, so he desperately tries to play Ryuji as the Yosuke in the hopes you won't find Morgana to be an insufferable faggot.

>>714991101 (OP)
It's funny how even the developers realized how much Ryuji got shat on. Everyone's a lot nicer to him in the 3rd semester Mementos dialogue and theres even a scene in the Thieves Den where the girls feel bad for beating him up.

>>715002206
It's almost like Atlus got a metric fuckton of backlash when P5 originally came out for the scene of the girls beating him up and leaving him knocked out on the side of the road after he saves their asses.

>>714991101 (OP)
cat fucker thread

>>714991380
I would have the same feelings and i would try to fuck both.

>>715002206
He deserved to get shitted on because not only was he a dumb and retardedly loud asshole, he also had next to no empathy in Futaba's palace. He was also obsessed with being famous for being a supposedly secretive phantom thief, for some dumb reason.

>>714991380
I'd absolutely fuck the shit out of her. But alas

>>714991101 (OP)
Why wouldn't he? Everyone shits on Ryuji.

Everyone's shitting on Morgana for doing so, but the worst moment is when Ryuji saves everyone, almost dies and the girls all beat him up. Nothing Morgana ever does comes close to that shit.

>>715002804
The problem is that the girls are generally lovable and that's one scene played for laughs, even if it doesn't land. Morgana's annoying more often than not, and having him be the voice of "You can't have fun now, go to bed" was a massive mistake.
It doesn't help that you can pick a load of retarded dialogue options to make the difference in treatment between Joker and Ryuji really egregious.

I kinda wish Ryuji and Ann was an actual thing. I'm not even a shipperfag usually but for some reason that pair just works in my mind

>>714991380
No

>>715004771
I agree, it's a pairing I can really see working out, just like Junpei and Chidori in Persona 3.

>>715004771
It would have been cute, but you can't have the MC feeling like they'll get cucked.

>>714991101 (OP)
Morgana is an insecure and pretentious midwit, Ryuji isn't.

>>714991101 (OP)
P5 having shitty writing

>>715009193
I have Futaba I don't care about Ann

>>715012384
for me, it's ohya

>>715012639
She's okay I just don't like her hair or drinking habits

Common guys. You are not seriously attracted to a literal cat, right?

>>714991380
they would have had to have given it a cute girl form eventually and a romance in the final two calendar months or something

Best girl isn't even a romantic option.

>>715012795
I love that image. It's delicious.

>>715012985
Not a male one, yeah.

Teddie and Yosuke are so much better than their p5 counterparts, it's not even funny.

>>714991101 (OP)
he's insecure, initially because he doesn't know what the fuck he even is, and later because beyond his (limited) knowledge of the metaverse/palaces he doesn't do anything better than anyone else in the thieves

>>715012795
Her hair is fine, just because she doesn't have her concept design ponytail doesn't mean she's shit. Better than Haru with her football field sized forehead.

>>715014596
I never said she was shit I just like Futaba better.

>>714991380
It literally is a girl. She's voiced by a woman in English and Japanese and has a woman's name both as Morgana and Mona. The Royale shit is her fantasy image of herself, it doesn't correlate to reality, she's a girl.

>>714991101 (OP)
If he can push someone else down it makes him not the bottom rung.

>>715015565
sorry my bad, i'm just so used to people shitting on ohya all the time and it annoys me because she's my favorite

>>714991101 (OP)
Because it's not enough that the game jacks off your self-insert it has to emasculate all potentially sexually threatening males in your vicinity

>>715009193
I don't think that many people pair Joker with Ann and the dedicated Ann waifufags are in the state where they don't selfinsert as Joker anyway.
Most of the time it's always Joker and Makoto or Kawakami.

>>714991101 (OP)

Apparently the English version removed a ton of Ryuji giving the cat abuse in translation. So the cat actually looks like a complete prick by default in the localization of the game.

Read it somewhere in a previous thread.

>>715017035
>a cat wrote this
Sure thing, sell your propaganda catwashing elsewhere.

>>714994210
I will always hate the way both Ann and Ryuuji lose their brains after Kamoshida's arc.
Ryuuji is the worst one as his SL let him keep some resemblance of a brain just to lose whenever plot needed him.

>>715017693
It felt like Ann completely disappeared a a relevant character in the plot after her arc was completed. Not sure if that is better or worse than Ryuuji just fucking shit up for the sake of an idiot plot. The entire game just had too bloated of a cast.

>>715013103
Yes she is

>>715018424
True. SIU Director might be one of the most unintentionally funny characters ever just because of how pointless he is.

>>715013419
>and later because beyond his (limited) knowledge of the metaverse/palaces he doesn't do anything better than anyone else in the thieves
If only he realized that every thief not named Joker or Futaba is equally superfluous and interchangeable...

>>715017693
both of them are retarded from the start, both do reckless shit without a single thought

>>715013419
Honestly, I always thought that was the point of his arc too but the game fumbles it. They set up this cool angle where he's grappling with identity and self-worth, but then he just gets reduced to comic relief mascot halfway through. He never really earns his spot in the crew beyond being the tutorial gremlin. Even Teddie got a proper existential crisis payoff, Morgana just kinda... vibes.

Should I play 3,4, or 5 right now bros?

The main playable cast/phantom thief members in Persona 5 are all insufferable except for Yusuke.

>>715020152
I like Haru. Her whole "teehee I'm actually bloodthirsty!" is really overstated by the fanbase. It comes up barely enough to fit on two hands in the actual game. I'm sure they dial it up in spinoffs

>>715018839
>best
>girl
Dusty woman.

>>715020295
Haru's not insufferable, she just winds up getting no characterization since half her chapter is Mona tantrum and the other half is Makoto. Then you compound in if players aren't using a guide they may get fucked out of any S-link with that compassion gate super early on.

>>715020342
Yes

>>714991101 (OP)
Because Ryuji is trash and extremely annoying.

>>714994506
you'd play a war weary fifty year old too if you got on a president candidate's shitlist and obtained a criminal record before even finishing high school

>>714991380
>Morgana but turn into a girl instead of a faggot
>no retarded shit with ann and ryuji
Yeah

ryuji became my least favorite persona character after he screamed and had a tantrum when they found out they were being set up. he's just awful.