Thread 715007393

so... have we decided we're just gonna pretend this never happened? it's kind of a big deal, no?

not really

the people reviewing info about switch 2 will take note and re-consider buying the device
waiting for oled is a common theme

woahhhhh look at how fast it looks!
an immersive gaming experience, for sure

>>715007393 (OP)
Is it just me or does the Ally look better than the OLED Deck in this comparison? Also holy shit that blur on the Switch 2

Until someone hacks the switch or Nintendo adds a web browser it means nothing
you're testing the youtube app not the screen

nintendo's primary audience is literally too stupid to see it.

>>715007443
>/v/ spends the last 8 years complaining about TAA, DLSS, FSR and other forms of upscaling and how it makes the image blurry on a fine pixel level
>Switch 2 comes out
>literally a blurry mess on a hardware level
>this isn't really a big deal

>>715007393 (OP)
But it didn't happen. Switch isn't cracked so this test can't be run on it. They ran this test on a youtube video so this is a critique of youtube, and not Switch 2. Hope this helps.

>>715007720
See >>715007873

>>715007393 (OP)
Yes, just like every grifter youtuber who is looking for their next easy hit.

>>715007873
google gray to gray testing

>>715007695
That's some nice ghosting your cell phone screen has

>>715007393 (OP)
It wasn't a big deal when Switch, Steam Deck and Rog Ally came out, why is it a big deal for Switch 2?

>>715008029
The cheapest chinkshit phones have better screens now.

>>715007720
>errrrrm licherally everyone was talking about this tho?
You aren't from here.
Kill yourself back from whence you came.

Switch 2 has a worse screen than the switch 1 btw

>>715007979
No. Thanks for the offer though.

>>715007393 (OP)
Still seething about Digital Foundry's latest video huh? Switch 2 absolutely MURDERED the Steam Deck.

https://youtu.be/SvGQik3m6ag?si=-KyI0P4FmHi4ADiI

>>715008137
Time for an upgrade then

>>715008153
pretend not being mentally ill for once

>>715007873
That's literally just a lie, you can open your switch 2 browser right now and open the UFO test

>>715008148
>Switch 2 has a worse screen than the switch 1 btw

OK sure lol

>>715008148
Not my problem. Both get played on 55 inch LG C1 OLEDs.

>>715008294
it doesn't have a browser.

>>715008047
Because the Switch 2 screen is significantly slower than all of these

>>715007393 (OP)
Not a problem on my panasonic plasma tv.

>>715007534
No, it very clearly doesn't look better because the Deck is way closer to reference, but the Ally has a decent screen too so in practice it wouldn't be worse to use.

>>715008294
What browser?

>>715008229
Ooft. Steam Kek got raped by Switch 2. No wonder /v/ is fizzing.

>>715008404
Not my problem.

>>715008321
You're comparing the upgraded Switch 2 version that costs $10 more and adds HDR to the original version. You're a disingenuous likely pedophile and I hope you're at least being financially compensated to spread misinformation on the internet.

>>715008628
Uhh... no. Posting fake images is just embarrassing.

>>715008628
>adds HDR
No, it doesn't. Nerrel's review covers this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3aUW3Ln44

Fake HDR is not real HDR. Fake HDR looks terrible and washed out.

>>715008757
who?

>>715007534
As another anon mentioned, OLED is better. But it's interesting to note how terrible all the images look at 60fps, even on OLED, which is super fast. CRT doesn't have this problem because of the way the image is generated. You can insert black frames between each frame if your screen is 120hz to try to mitigate the problem on IPS or OLED screens, but then you make the image appear about half as bright.
It's crazy that so long after CRTs fell out of use, we still don't have screens that are truly capable of handling the movement of images in games.

>>715008734
Curious how in all the time you've been shilling you've never once compared dark images like I have or shown the screen from different angles.

>>715008757
>it's FAKE!!!

>>715007393 (OP)
Only a big deal if you bought early and care about playing undocked. Sucks for them.

>>715008953
Yes, troon. Bottom is the OLED.

>>715008874
People like modern nintendo fans are exactly why we still don't have flat screens that are truly capable of handling movement. People are so slovenly cultist that they will defend any business decision no matter how short-sighted it is, or how many corners are cut.

Nintendo used to have a seal of quality on their products. They used to pride the quality and construction of their devices and games. Now anything they make is nothing but a cash withdrawal from their pay piggy ATM fans who have replaced OnlyFan findom thots with a faceless organization wearing the skin of something that made them happy during their childhood.

>>715008229
Holy fuck Steam Deck is kill.

How long until Switch 2 OLED?

Does anyone know anything about color calibration on the Switch 2?
The Switch 1 LCD screen is garbage (despite being CONSIDERABLY faster than the Switch 2 screen), but at least it comes with a more or less decent factory calibration. The colors on the Switch 1 LCD screen tend to be pretty true to what you'd expect to see on a properly calibrated device.

>>715009229
You'll survive

>>715008953
>hdr on a game that never orginally supported it

>>715009234
OLED doesn't support 120Hz, so never

>>715009287
how the fuck do you calibrate monitors anyway?

>>715007393 (OP)
The amount that people talk about it is directly proportional to how big a deal it is

>>715009234
About 4 and a half years. So early 2030.

>>715007695
Reminds me of my old DLP TV

>>715008757
>>715009083
>>715009229
>>715007393 (OP)
>>715009749

You got rapelated, erpedophilesnoytrannic ;)

Inserting a black frame completely solves the problem of modern screens being crap, but the final image is very dark and I don't know how viable it is for games. On my monitor with a response time of about 5ms according to rtings, the image is perfect at 48fps, much better than the same image at 144fps.

>>715009380
I used an external device.
It works something like this: you see the lighting in your room (in my case, I use 6500K bulbs), and from there, the idea is that the colors on your monitor look as close as possible to the colors you see in your room, in the real world.
So if, for example, you scan an image from a book and look at the same book in your room and on your monitor screen, the colors will be very similar.

Everyone's waiting to see if Nintendo will patch it

>>715008628
You realize switch 2 is on the left here? Which looks clearly worse

>>715010368
yeah but I mean what software do you use? I don't see any way to do it in windows

>>715010469
Yes? Are you illiterate?

>snoys keep inventing more and more desperate reasons to hate switch 2
You love to see it.

>>715007497
Why should I care when my Switch is gonna be in its dock for 98% of its lifespan?

>>715010634
why not just play games on your pc then
its also "docked" and has more power since it doesnt use an automobile soc from 2018 made on samsung 10nm

>>715010634
because muh portability is a major selling point? you can't just sweep it under the rug when it becomes inconvenient.

>>715009310
>things are getting worse but it won't KILL you ;) just accept lower standards
Go eat onions and live in the pod you dumb fag

>>715010368
problem with BFI is it doesn't work with VRR which makes it kinda shit for high refresh screens, even factoring in that you are cutting your refresh rate in in half anyway and for low refresh rate screens BFI isn't a magic bullet as the panel still has to transition from black back to colour.

>>715010741
>>715010748
>>715010854
You got rapelated, erpedophilesnoytrannic ;)

>>715010472
None, the UFO test inserts black frames. I'll see if it's possible to do this in a game to see the difference in image perception.

>>715010741
>>715010748
If you really care about playing games portably then I do agree it is an issue. However, I believe most people use their switch docked or only for very short periods where it won't matter.
>Just play games on your PC!!!
I mean my PC doesn't have Mario Kart World (though I got tired of it) or the new DK game. If you're just gonna say the games are shit then why do you even care about the Switch? Just ignore it.

xenoblade 2 is probably one of the blurriest fucking games I've ever played on a console

>>715011262
I dont play nintendo games but I wonder, why not just play anything else on pc?

>>715009229
There is shit I care about and shit I do not care about. I do not care about scrutinizing the alien test. Are you really going to get a thousand pound CRT because the response rate and motion blur is perfectly optimized? No, you just get a monitor that's good enough. I'd rather have the Switch 2's LCD over a hypothetical OLED that would add $50 to the price.
And if we did need something that would add to the price, the screen would be the last thing to modify since its already good enough. I'd add hall effect sticks or a larger battery.

>>715011369
I like playing on the balcony in a hammock.

>>715011369
I literally only have a switch for their exclusives or weird console exclusives that don't come to PC, like Unicorn Overlord.
I am primarily a PC gamer, my switch is hooked up to my monitor.

>>715010472
https://github.com/squeaksci/desktopbfi

reference enjoyer

>>715011372
>monitor that is good enough
If nintendo gave a single shit about their hardware then they could easily fix this by inserting black frames at 120hz and downconverting gameplay to 60hz. The switch 2 is capable of it. And it would look great with almost no ghosting. But they won't do it because their company model is flipping shit cheap shit from china and painting it bright colors for their retarded audience.

I do find it hilarious that nintendo fans are justifying paying $80+ yearly subscription + dlc packages + battle passes but scream when you dare suggest that nintendo put more quality into their actual hardware, a one time purchase.

>>715012339
You got rapelated, erpedophilesnoytrannic ;)

>>715012339
bfi isnt that easy to implement
the monitors that have a worthwhile implementation tend to be very expensive esports >360hz tn/ips panels and most monitors that have the feature will get reviews saying its shit
it generally hits brightness very hard as to maintain same brightness with bfi the pixels need to be brighter. Switch display with its middling 400 nits might not get bright enough.

>>715012645
That's true but the option should exist. The blur on any motion is incredibly jarring on the S2. They really should have gone with a better display even if it meant a 30-50 dollar more expensive development cost. Nintendo made billions from the switch 1, they could have afforded to provide a better quality product for the same price at a slightly lower profit margin.

If the modern day nintendo made the gameboy, it would be a frail piece of shit that dies 5 months into the use and would be plagued with issues like button wear because of the modern era's obsession with cutting corners.

>>715012339
>If nintendo gave a single shit about their hardware then they could easily fix this by inserting black frames at 120hz and downconverting gameplay to 60hz
As someone who's had the Switch 2 for a month I don't know if I could go back to 60fps. I'll take a little ghosting for that smooth 120fps gameplay

>>715007873
Chat is this real? Did these faggots really use a fucking a YouTube video for the test???

>>715008321
>>715008628
Switch 2 screen doesn't do HDR. Only on a TV, like 120hz. Also the Switch 2 has a "wider gamut LCD" which I don't understand how that works.

>>715008628
Also reminder that Quake is supposed to look like the left image instead of losing visual data like on the right.

>>715013090
The display is unacceptable but at this point theres no reason to expect it will get better somehow. All one can do is warn others from buying the device.

The only handheld I'd care about is SD 2

>>715011363
>Be Monolith
>Make huge games that rival slop like GTA
>Next game is one new hardware
>But the game needs to run on a shitty lithium battery (all lithium batteries are garbage)

This is also why Breath of the Wild got gimped hard.

>>715007720
>>/v/ spends the last 8 years complaining about TAA, DLSS, FSR and other forms of upscaling and how it makes the image blurry
Don't worry, the switch 2 also use all those as well

>>715011372
If the Switch 2 OLED were only $50 more, I think it would be an easy decision.
I'm not a fan of OLEDs because I use my computer heavily for work, sometimes leaving the same program open for 14 hours and things like that, but for a device just for casual gaming, spending only $50 more and getting such a superior screen would totally be worth it.
But I don't think it would be just $50 more. The Switch 1 OLED is only $50 more expensive than the regular Switch, but as far as I know, the more optimized design has caused the price of other things to drop compared to the regular Switch.

>>715010756
The problem is the motion blur, not the color reproduction.
Try taking a photo of link moving on the two devices.

>>715013364
>>715013958
>>715014174

You got rapelated, erpedophilesnoytrannic ;)

>>715013356
Kill yourself, shill.

>>715007443
fpbp

>>715014287
>people say that screen has problem X
>proves that problem Y does not exist
>"i won".
Show the motion blur.
I'm not even "against the switch 2", if had one it would be a TV device because i don't care about more than 1080p, and the switch 2 clears that with ease.

>>715014470
Calm down lil troll bro

The steam deck is old and busted but the Switch 2 LCD is also a piece of shit. If they don't release an OLED Switch 2 before 2028 I'm not buying one at all. Fuck you Nintendo, I don't even like bing bing.

>>715007393 (OP)
>rah rah check out the blur on my 60hz 480p 5 inch display
lmao
least of your worries man

>>715014747
There's no 480p display in this.

>>715014470
>>715014527
>>715014747

>people bought the switch 2
Lmao, I have not bought a nintendo product in almost 15 years

>>715015421
I have bought nearly every Nintendo hardware since 1985

>>715015421

You got rapelated, erpedophilesnoytrannic ;)

The Switch 2 doesn't even have Morrowind, why would I waste my time with such an inferior gaming platform

>>715007393 (OP)
I don’t really care but I hope they put out a firmware fix for the people that do care, because overdrive should be a solution.

You didnt have a problem with it with your LCD display

>>715016359
I don't think that will happen. Overdrive isn't something you download from the Internet. Your monitor comes with certain settings from the factory, so it needs to have been built with that in mind. And overdrive has its problems too. On my monitor, there are several levels of overdrive, and only the most subtle one is really usable, because all the others degrade the image considerably, making it WORSE than just ghosting.

>>715016580
do you have some garbo cheap VA thats 5y old?

Notice the screen thing only came out after launch.

Not at any of the many events people went to etc to play it. It's just OLED niggers being niggers.

>>715016823
how many reddit threads complaining about the screen do you need?

Switch 2 is just Pete Hegseth mode

>>715016887
There are none

>>715016887
>trust reddit
No I don't I will.

>>715007393 (OP)
>find a monitor that meets all my needs
>AMD unboxed reviewed it and this ufo whatever test says its shit
samsung bros ... what am i suposed to buy now?

>>715017012
check out the ktc m27t6

>reference ufo image testufo.com
How did they get to it on the switch 2?

>>715014841
I'm sure it's not 5 inches either but I'm also sure the point didn't fly over your head entirely, or did it? I'll spell it out anyway, it's an utter dogshit display to begin with who cares about ghosting

>>715016580
The panel’s the same as a bunch of Samsung tablets that don’t have as slow of a response time. This is a software issue.

>>715017339
You got rapelated, erpedophilesnoytrannic ;)

>>715017070
>27 inch
too small desu

>>715017593
for a desk?

>>715017620
my current monitor is 40 inches. i cant go any smaller. i refuse

>>715017097
They didn't. They just used something "similar"

>>715017651
just have the monitor closer to your eyes so it appears larger

>>715017664
But then they tested all the other screens in the same way so it was a fair comparison, right?

>>715013958
WAIT
Blur in one direction from software
BUT
you then blur in the other from hardware, right?
This shit will be crisp as FUCK bro