Thread 715014851

Everyone I've talked to the industry is shook and really worried by this, not because of the actual content of the petition, but because they feel like there is this growing sentiment where gamers just blindly hate and spew vitriol towards all devs and publishers with. They are worried it's going to be like G*mergate 2.0, but much, much worse.

>>715014851 (OP)
But I already hate developers

I actually don't give a shit about preservation. I support it because I want developers to stop making live service garbage entirely and this will make it so unappealing to do so that no one will.

>>715014851 (OP)
you can thank EA, Activision and Ubisoft going full distopian Corpo for that.

My first experience with games was when my uncle introduced me to his favorite series. I don't want to rob someone of that just because some retarded devs

>>715014851 (OP)
>but because they feel like there is this growing sentiment where gamers just blindly hate and spew vitriol towards all devs and publishers with
maybe if they didn't have a whole campaign about hating gamers and focusing on other audiences while making the least consumer friendly shit and completely trashing every franchise we loved they wouldn't get so much blind hate from gamers

>>715014851 (OP)
Yes because the focus used to be on making actual good games. Now all the west gives a shit about is making addictive pay to win dogslop or straight up propaganda. Western devs have burned every last bit of goodwill at this point.

>>715014851 (OP)
Maybe devs should treat consumers like respectable clients and try to make products that are of good quality AND try to have a positive relationship with those who purchase it? Instead of treating them cattle and demanding they pay for absolute shit and demonizing those who don’t? Just a thought.

>>715014851 (OP)
Total industry death

Fuck your manipulation attempt. The gamers are waking up.

>>715014851 (OP)
Why are they trying so fucking hard to turn SKG into another Gamergate?

>>715015475
Gamers are cattle though and do pay for absolute shit

>>715014851 (OP)
Anything to fuck with Activision Blizzard.

Game journalists are turning this into another Gamergate. Look how they're making Asmongold and Pewdiepie the face of the movement and warning people about Pirate Software's harassment campaign.
>Many developers are now urging #StopKillingGames organizers to take a firmer stance against hate groups and clarify the movement’s values. “Preservation without protection is meaningless,” said Aviv Salinas, co-creator of Blood Nova. “We need to preserve games and the people who make them.”
>As the campaign approaches legislative milestones, its ability to remain inclusive and principled will determine whether it becomes a force for good or another flashpoint in gaming’s long-running culture wars.
These fuckers are really playing dirty now.

>>715014851 (OP)
It doesn't need SKG to hate the industry, the only thing you need is see how they wanted to destroy the industry and rebuild it in a way they wanted in the last ten years. It's basically they trying to treat shareholders as consumers and consumers as cattle.

These days they just can't stand the fact that players could retaliate by simply not buying the garbage they threw against their faces.

>>715014851 (OP)
sure thing buddy completly organic concern

just
dont
buy
the
game
if
you
dont
like
their
practices

no need to legislate a luxury good you fucking morons
Just learn some fucking self-control and vote with your fucking wallet.

>>715015584
every journalist wants to be fucked by five guys

>>715014851 (OP)
>>715015584
>They are worried it's going to be like G*mergate 2.0, but much, much worse.
Leave it to lefty journalists to be against consumer rights and play into the hand of corporations

>>715014851 (OP)
Not all devs and publishers, only those who push gaas dogshit.

>>715015790
Fuck you, gtfo of this thread. Voting with your wallet means nothing. They will produce the slop even if it won't sell. Go back to the marketing meeting bucko.

>>715014851 (OP)
>not because of the actual content of the petition, but because they feel like there is this growing sentiment where gamers just blindly hate and spew vitriol towards all devs and publishers with
You're lying and even if this was true, that shows publishers and devs are bitch niggers
>WAAAAH SOMEONE SAID OUR ALWAyS ONLINE TRANNY GAME IS AIDS!!

You're all really trusting the retards in the EU government to understand the issue.
Nothing will happen at best, indie games will be neutered at worst.
This movement is fucking retarded.

It's incredibly funny seeing the left, who calls themselves anticapitalist and anti establishment fall for every single one of their tricks time and time again.
We can already see the context shift happen in real time, it's so fucking sad.

>>715015584
googled that guy , watched 2 minutes of one of his takes

jesus christ what an insufferable faggot

>>715015790
Retard please.
There's a reason why FIFA makes shitloads of money even tho its hated by its players.
Brown people have zero self-control

>>715015841
Redpill me on the mana gem lore

You don't hate devs and publishers ENOUGH

The "good" publishers and developers are in the 99th percentile, while the rest are greedy assholes that do not care for the customer experience, just their bottom line.
With video games becoming such a massive market, non-gamers have flooded the market and are now making and publishing your games, out-of-touch suits ruining it for the core audience.
The future of video games is only with independent developers and publishers. Any teams that bloat to triple-A or even double-A will eventually get ruined by corporate interests.

>two separate totally normie coworkers that have never even showed a hint of redpilled have now made jokes about nazi shit/swastikas in the last month
it's really happening bros...

>>715015910
yes, let's vote for even more regulations and government overreach, nothing will ever go wrong with that!

>>715014851 (OP)
It's not blind hate, it's pretty specific hate against the attempt of erasing ownership of games and wanting to have the right to just erase games you bought from existence without even returning the money.

Let's write a twitch chat comment to Thor, one word at a time. Will use the first 20 words that reply to this post and clip his reaction.

>>715015841
mana gem?

>>715016006
>the 99th percentile
Tell us. Give us examples. I assure you they are not the saints you make them out ot be.

>>715016091
You can't own a service.

>>715015674
just tell them to shut the fuck up and "stop killing games" you get that into the law to fuck them up. Make politicans and law makers notice, journalists dont make laws.

>>715016141
redditor

>>715016141
FERRET

>>715016046
Not buying it doesn't mean it won't exist. Corpos can do whatever they want in this hell we created.

>>715015910
>If it won't sell
Then their gigabudget slop will result in thousands of layoffs, another addition to that dev apology compilation, and another dead studio. There is of course that line where the game is fine enough for the cattle to buy it but capital G gamers with standards won't. Doesn't matter to /v/ anyway as /v/ doesn't play games so their wallets never had any impact.

>>715016046
The government is a gun.
It's a messy, imperfect solution with horrible consequences for an imperfect world.
If a invader get in my house, i don't want to shoot him, but if shooting him is the only thing i can do, it's what i will have to do, as the alternative is probably getting raped and/or murdered.

>>715016046
But the left (you know, ones who push for government overreach) are against it
>>715015941
>>715015584

Honestly, any devs who are against SKG are basically just saying I should pirate/ignore all of their games, which is fine by me.

>>715016141
prolapsed

>>715015584
>self-serving self-promoting
how? He isn't promoting his own shit, just the initiative
not wanting to lose the games you paid for in proxy can be "self-serving", sure, but why the fuck wouldn't you protect the things you own?
>i made a video
now who's self-promoting? And the video has 30 views, just like your bluesky posts?
>new breed of dudes who don't play games
he has a channel with hundreds of videos of nothing but playing video games, both old AND modern, even games that nobody has ever heard of, and 80% of the "modern" games he has played rely on a central server, so those games will be dead without EOL-plan

Now THIS is a genuine grifter if I've ever seen one.

>>715014851 (OP)
I hate both AAA developers and publishers,
but what I hate the most is absolute morons buying their garbage shit products.

>>715016046
i take regulations over unsuperivsed corpos anyday

>>715016172
then you don't get to sell it among goods

>>715016172
These are nice ferret words, but you advertised your "service rental" as buying games, and people hate you for it.

Enjoy being regulated by germans.

>>715016046
Every time we gave you libertarians control you couldn't do fucking anything. The government exists to serve people and is the best way of controlling certain parts of our society.

Making a game just for the sake of it
because "research" showed that if you invest 50mil you'll double that in two years!

so yeah! let's make a Product™ for Money!

The whole thing needs to burn down to the fucking ground.

>>715016461
i´m german and germany doesn´t do shit

it´ll be the danes or swedes who´ll drop some based laws that most of europe will copy paste

>>715016141
anus

>>715015584
>Chet Faliszek (/ˈfɑːlJsɛk/; born 1965) is an American video game writer who has worked for companies like Valve and Bossa Studios, having been involved in the story writing for series such as Half-Life, Portal, and Left 4 Dead.
He's a washed up Valve faggot, no wonder he's steaming

funny the one against it were furfags who also fuck with animals irl

>>715016141
mana
Good luck not being banned after this one.

>>715016141
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>715016632
Nice anyway

>>715014851 (OP)
>think about the devs
Sir people here hate like 90% of devs. And with good reason mind you.

>>715015941
they always parrot the "be gay, do crimes" except if said crime goes against their gay or when the crime in question has to be shared with people they don't like

>>715015674
Do you have a second article? That's like a complete fart of a site making shit up. It couldn't be more obvious that it's the world's more retarded divide and conquer strategy, who are you expecting to fall for this?

>>715015968
>>715016152
Nepopirate was playing a mage in a hardcore WoW guild, they were doing Dire Maul dungeon
Everyone else in the team but pirate wiped because he didn't help the team. He kept saying he was out of mana the whole time, but he had mana to teleport multiple times to run away, he even had supplies to regenerate his mana to help the team with blizzard and frostbolts
and he kept insisting he wasn't in the wrong in this, doubling, tripling and quadrupling down, because he is a massive narcissist.

>>715014851 (OP)
If only you retards would stop making single player games connect to some dogshit server as a live service product.
I blame diablo 3 but honestly idk, maybe it started even earlier bu that pile of shit and blizzard made it so popular every other dev followed.

>>715015790
>no need
also no reason not to

>>715016975
I look like this

>>715016141
Maldingvius

>>715016172
I own a product
Which is why EU determined that I can re-sell the copy of the game as a product under the ruling UsedSoft GmbH vs Oracle International Corp.
>but my EULA
I wipe my ass with your ELUA like the EU court did

>>715016926
His stream also auto-filters "mana", "gem" and "mana gem" because he had that on his hotbar but didn't use it while denying he had any way to help others. This event also happened weeks after he bragged about how great of a mage he is and that it's the mage's responsibility to crowd control to help the group get to safety.

>>715015790
>just let me the marketing department to say WHY the game wasn't bought
>and yes, i'm telling it is the lack of even more microtransactions

>>715016046
and what specifically do you think will go wrong by preventing game publishers from rendering people's products unusable?

>>715016975
Seethe jew, seethe

>>715016046
Why do Americans post like this?

>>715016419
They didn't. You weren't tricked. Try again.
>>715016461
>and people hate you for it.
Doesn't look like it. Otherwise you would know not to buy a service game. Yet here you are crying.

>>715016926
tbf the other 4 were just as retarded and flip flopped after run was called

imagine being to stupid to do 5 man classic dungeons

>>715016975
If you don't say why you didn't bought it loud enough so the shareholders can hear, it will be twisted and turned into something even worse.

Why are they desperate to make this into a direction brain thing?

>>715017159
>This event also happened weeks after he bragged about how great of a mage he is and that it's the mage's responsibility to crowd control

hours

>>715014851 (OP)
>there is this growing sentiment where gamers just blindly hate and spew vitriol towards all devs and publishers with.
Good.

>>715017241
>just shup up and let ME tell the companies why the game didn't sold

>>715016046
I signed the petition specifically to make people like this guy seethe

>>715017291
That way, the industry could improve their situation to a 50/50 (with their 50% being the people in positions of power) vs a 90-10% issue where they are the 10%.

>>715017220
Perfect golem soldiers that operate on double-think. Orwell was being hyperbolic but Americans can genuinely be reprogrammed to fight a new enemy with the flip of a switch. No thinking needed, since Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck or Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson can tell them what to think.

>>715017291
It worked for killing occupy wall street, it must work for killing SKG too.

Just so I can hammer home this point to everyone (even the burgers itt)

>Corpos can do whatever they want in this hell we created.

If you are against this you are also in favor of war and people being exploited.

>>715017379
Dangerously based. You will have rights and mutts will seethe.

>>715016975
>I
it's not about me, it's about preventing corporations from fucking over the average person
I'm sorry to say, but I do actually care about my fellow countrymen and don't believe that they should be getting screwed over like this, even if they are stupid enough to fall for it
put simply, this business model is a purely negative and exploitative one that benefits a tiny number of people while harming many and should thus be illegal

>>715016159
Unfrozen
Daedalic Entertainment
Cryptic Studios
Arc Games
Amplitude Studios
MercurySteam
gamigo
Stunlock Studios
PlaySide
Knights Peak
THQ Nordic

Just to name a few from my immediate memory

>>715017159
the bragging happened within the same day lmao

>>715017220
if you think that poster is being earnest I've got a bridge to sell you

>>715017241
they did, you have a lack of understanding, educated yourself before returning

>>715015941
Literally who? Did you screencap your own post?

>>715017596
>they did
No they didn't.

>>715017596
i made a typo and now must die meaning i lost, replies invalid, argument complete

>>715017594
>ummm I was heckin pretending to be le retarded

>>715015584
>he thinks they shouldn't exist
HIS WHOLE THING IS THAT HE WANTS THE GAMES TO EXIST THOUGH
THAT IS LITERALLY THE CORE ISSUE

>>715017519
>but I do actually care about my fellow countrymen
This is something burgers don't understand. Their attitude is pure crabs in a bucket. If their neighbour is scammed, they laugh at him for getting scammed and tell themselves the same won't happen to them because they're "smart".

>>715017656
EU law defines one-time purchases of digital content as being much closer in their contract requirements to goods. Digital content in the EU is considered neither a good nor service but it's own thing, however when the contract involves a 'one-time purchase', the license is expected to last indefinitely.

>>715017786
Hate to tell you but I am a burger and I wrote that post. I admit that you're correct about many of my people thinking that way but it's not like it's unique to us.

>WARNING
Careful, you don't want to have fun even for a little,
don't talk points against this, or post funny reactions with hypothetical arguments

The other day some faggot mod who is probably trans and was dilating at the moment just downright banned and deleted my posts.
because I was just shitposting,

Can the older mods tell that newfagcancer mod that it's ok to make fun of things?
Morons

>>715015941
Never EVER cooperate with leftists, they will ALWAYS sabotage your movement and/or sell you out as soon as they're able. They will shoot themselves in the foot rather than be associated with the 'evil' right.

>>715017519
So basically it's my job to stop the retard cattle from enslaving themselves? Great :\

>>715017870
Can we extend this to goods and services so that when I buy a prostitute I own her for life?

>>715015584
>Why are they trying so fucking hard to turn SKG into another Gamergate?

cause it's the same thing what gamergate is about; gamers calling out the industry over their stupid shit but the industry takes control of the narrative to slander the movement to get the win.

>>715017594
Mate it's the same argument that someone was arguing for an hour in the previous thread. Even if this one is fake, it's a copy of actual arguments posted here.

>>715017971
Yes. Just because the tribe got bigger doesn't mean you aren't a part of it. What affects them affects us all.

>>715017220
they have been brainwashed. they want a "free market" because they have been sold the lie that they could be the next big entrepreneur who can make it big and start the next multi-billion-dollar business. problem is the "free market" doesn't exists because it assumes that people don't play dirty, which is fucking retarded

>>715017987
We used to have that, it's called slavery. You can try to start your own initiative to bring it back but I don't think you'll get the signatures.

>>715017987
What do you mean you don't have that already? Every time I paid for a prostitute and I got to keep her forever. In fact I have 3 of them in my basement right now.

>>715017987
You didn't buy a prostitute, you bought sex
Now fuck off faggot

>>715014851 (OP)
I only hate woke devs

>>715017870
Ok but the developer never sold them as goods, you knew they would expire, so stop crying.

>>715018413
>some random thought that passed through the empty head of some random dev
>literally the fucking EU law
Hum... I can't figure out which one of those hold more legal power... Which one could it be...?

>>715014851 (OP)
I hate developers that hate me. I feel like that's fair. I do hate pretty much all publishers though

Fuck your EULAs. Fuck your digital licence. Fuck your shitty dlc culture that made complete games at launch a rare sight. Fuck your game key that you have to redeem to even download something you never can preserve. Fuck your propaganda.

You won't get away with this anymore.

Well, they should be, just give people the ability to continue playing your shit game after it reaches the end of your milking of it, what's the big deal?
>B-but what if someone makes money off of it?
So what if they do? It's not like you were going to make anymore money off of it.
>B-but that's my money!
Yeah, and this is why nobody cares if game developers and publishers are all turned out into the streets to starve to death in the gutter.

>>715018238
So I must make my arguments like I am talking to the parliament or something,

sneed.

>>715018534
Can you please stop pretending to not know that online games die? It makes you look like a pathetic shill. Thanks.

>>715018650
Go back to basedjack party you retarded child.

>>715015674
>Many developers are now urging #StopKillingGames organizers to take a firmer stance against hate groups and clarify the movement’s values.
Why should they do that? Hitler was firmly against the killing of games, everybody knows that.

>>715018658
>please, I'm begging you, let me win just this once, I'm tired of being BTFO by everyone in this thread
No, I don't think I will. Games don't die, but some of them are killed. After SKG, your masters won't be able to kill them anymore.
Cry me a river.

>>715019023
Calm down.

>>715015041
>so unappealing
>all they have to do is make the game playable without their dogshit servers
You tried and almost succeeded in fitting in, but plenty will still see you as the cocksucking corposhill you are.

>>715018413
>stop crying.
We're not crying, we're signing a petition with millions of signatures and showing displeasure with the whole state of the thing.
And now, either the game industry will have to deal with it or get EU in their asses.
And by deal with it i mean creating some sort of self regulation or set of rules etc that makes the public happy, not the retarded ubisoft shit.

>>715018869
I've been here since 2010
why don't you go back to fucking reddit or wherever the fuck faggots like you come from
;-)

>>715019290
>I've been here since 2010
Sure, niggerfaggot.

>>715015475
>good quality
They hit peak quality long ago. Now the only way is down. The only way for these corposcum to keep their jobs now is by making everything incrementally worse. Have you not noticed it in literally everything? You can't do what you want with any piece of tech anymore, physical products are made to break on purpose, even food tastes like chemicals and oil now. Everything is getting worse and will continue to get worse as long as capitalists are in control. Capitalism has run its course and should have become communism a long time ago but for the successful brainwashing of the retarded masses who now think the word 'communism' is illegal.

>>715014851 (OP)
They should be more worried about if their company will randomly fire them tomorrow HAHAHAHA

>>715019230
Best you'll get is a symbol on the packaging saying "service game" which everyone including yourself already knew inspite how retarded you're pretending to be to make this nothingburger an issue. Hope this makes you happy.

>>715019230
>Ubisoft EULA
It's not just Ubisoft and it's not something they can even enforce but I guess it hit the front page of Reddit or something so it must be big news.

>>715019230
I hope ubishit forgets to remove from the internet before it gets brought into EU court. There's no way they're gonna let that slide.

>>715014851 (OP)
>Treat the industry as a Fleshlight for years
>Nyoooo consequences of our actions
indie and AA devs are doing better than ever. It's just AAA suffering

>>715015674
>Don't let republicans and their shills hijack it
Sounds like a good idea, this is apolitical.

>>715014851 (OP)
Everyone I've talked to the industry said OP was a faggot.

>>715019567
So why are they (you) all so scared of it?

>>715019567
sure thing, ESL. Learn fucking English before you try shilling here at least.

>>715019816
I'm not.
>>715019819
Nearly every country in the EU is ESL dumbfuck. I'm your white American master.

>>715019972
>American
>white

>>715019972
>Nearly every country in the EU is ESL dumbfuck
Yeah and they're all fucking subhuman lmao dunno why you thought that would help your case, ESL filth.

>>715020008
Yes.

they are right
and journalists should be afraid for their pathetic lives at all times

>>715014851 (OP)
I think their concerns have some merit. Are they going to DO anything about it, like reigning in the biggest industry retards, or publisher excesses?

>>715015584
Because they nominally won at gamergate because of the press, and are completely out of touch with how much the press has collapsed since then.

>>715018658
>i know this is basically illegal but you see other people going along with it, so just go along with it, okay?
no

>>715019972
Your peers against the movement certainly are. Are they more informed than you to be afraid of something you can't comprehend?

>>715014851 (OP)
>I've talked to the industry
No you haven't.

>industry is shook and really worried by this
No they aren't.

>>715015790
Funny how that wasn't a viable option when trannies were demanding representation. Fuck no. My vote, my choice. My money. My choice. And if that money goes to fund class action lawsuits against the worst behavior here, or to fund politicians who support me here? Still my goddam choice.

>>715019179
i dont mind siding with the devil to put the lazy greedy devs once in a while. fuck them. why should we give a fuck when they havent in a decade?

>>715019771
>pewdiepie is a rapepublican shill
retard

>>715020160
I didn't say any of that.
>>715020201
I'm aware people disagree with me.

>>715014851 (OP)
>but because they feel like there is this growing sentiment where gamers just blindly hate and spew vitriol towards all devs and publishers with. They are worried it's going to be like G*mergate 2.0, but much, much worse.
When I think of game devs:

>I want to put them in front of my tank and drive over them ISIS style.
>I want to drone strike them and put Ukrainian uniforms on half of them and Russian uniforms on the other half so that i can post on /pol/ from both sides.
>I want to send them to Gaza

>>715020249
>Funny how that wasn't a viable option when trannies were demanding representation
It wasn't?

>>715015790
I won't buy them, and I will still petition against them anyway.

>>715020431
post your full steam library

>>715020330
>I didn't say any of that.
you did
not putting any more effort into this post than you put into yours

>>715015941
This person literally got ZERO likes, and 72 views. You had to hunt to find this schizo.

>>715016141
Onahole