HEEEELP
HEEELP MEEEEE
HEEEEEEEEELP

>>715016414 (OP)
how are you this bad at a childrens game? garchomp folds to a single ice beam

you lost to something that picks moves at random.

For me, it's Gyarados w/ dragon dance

>>715016487
>send out my abomasnow
>Garchomp used Brick Break!
>Abomasnow has fainted!
>gg no re

>>715016487
Good luck finding an ice mon that can outspeed Garchomp
>inb4 metafag with his choice scarf

>>715016616
>>715016621
use ice shard you retards
it's quad effective, it's gonna one shot anyway

>>715016621
you dont need an ice mon...you can have your water mon have ice beam. its quad effectiveness you dont need stab.

>>715016760
What if I'm a Karenfag and don't like Ice types?

>tfw you kept toxic spikes on your team specifically for this battle
pwn'd

>>715016880
What if I picked Empoleon though. It ain't surviving a STAB Earthquake.

>>715016880
My Gastrodon has Surf, Waterfall, Earthquake and Rain Dance and I can't comfortably get past Flynn without Rain Dance so that's a no go.

>>715016894
not my problem
if you are doing a challenge run then it's your responsibility to figure it out

bro your X items?

>>715016414 (OP)
Plug in AR and make sure Catch Trainer's Pokemon is toggled bro.

You shouldve been building your team around this moment. Everyone knows about her Garchomp. It's your own fault for not planning accordingly. Gyrados with Ice Fang hard checks her Garchomp

>>715017064
You can just say you were wrong bro

>most players will have pokemon in the low fifties at this point
>LOL level 66 psuedo
Did they do anything right with the orginal dp?

use an x-defend on glaceon GG

>>715016414 (OP)
His name is Lucas, not fucking Diamond.

>>715017052
>My Gastrodon has Surf, Waterfall

>why is the final boss hard
Fucking brainlets. Every Pokemon game should have champions with full lvl 100 teams and maxed EVs.

>have [literally anything] out
>switch in starraptor
>intimidate
>earthquake doesnt effect

>dragon rush misses
>starraptor brave bird

Diamond Dust occurs today, gonna go boot up and walk around while I have a cig

>>715016760
>it's gonna one shot anyway
Nope. And this is assuming same level, max EVs and IVs and a beneficial nature. Most ingame mons will do far less damage.

>>715017052
Delete Waterfall for fuck's sake and slap on Blizzard or Ice Beam; move deleter's in Canalave.

For me its:
Infernape
Roserade
Honchkrow
Vaporeon
Electivire

>>715017954
Mamoswine > Obamasnow

>>715017437
Giving the game the first ounce of difficulty it had since you were 10 isn't a bad thing.

>>715016414 (OP)
find a mon to stall on and dump X speed and X attack/special on your mon

>Whitney
>Cynthia
>Gen 3 Rival
The great retard filters...

>>715017518
>localized name
lol

>>715018114
That only has small chance of OHKOing
>252+ Atk Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 204-240 (85.7 - 100.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Again, same level, max stats.

>>715018376
>his name is コウキ, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Fucking weeb, you will never be Japanese.

>>715016414 (OP)
I killed it with the monkey starter
I killed all her money with monkey starter

>>715018493
with nevermeltice?

>>715018510
cope with your fanfiction slop eop

>>715016414 (OP)
just grind and overlevel bro

Dude...you're supposed to set up on her Spiritomb and sweep her

>>715016414 (OP)
Weren’t you supposed to mating press Cynthia with your shota cock and impregnate her with your child to win? Never had this problem

how does she filter so many after all these years?

>>715016414 (OP)
Use a fairy type

>>715016414 (OP)
use Ice beam dude should fold Garchomp easily

>>715016414 (OP)

Cloyster tanks and OHKOs

ggez

if you picked up never-melt ice at any point, the level req drops to 56

This thread has GOT to be bait, Cynthia may bne strong but nobody is this bad at Pokemon.

>>715016414 (OP)
>summon my own Garchomp
>win
It's that easy

>>715019465
Shellder requires super rod which is post-E4 you goober

>>715019140
She distracts men easily

>>715019474
The remake version of the elite 4 is remixed and way harder. My mom made me help her with it and there are compfag strats being used all the way through

>>715016414 (OP)
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD

>>715019791
Tell us about your moms team

>>715019791
tell us about your mom

>>715017614
>he's a retard that needs to use HM slaves

>>715018624
>252+ Atk Never-Melt Ice Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 240-288 (100.8 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO
That does the trick, but it still requires max attack investment.

just inject kyurem-black lmao

>>715019140

>>715020145
Bro this is Sinnoh, THE HM slave region.

>>715020241
uhh bro?

>>715019465
you're closer to mid-high 40s when you get to the champion

>>715020246
>finally turned flash into a TM
>they went and made defog
what the fuck were they thinking?

>>715016414 (OP)
Can you get the Razor Claw in Diamond before post game? Catch a Sneasel, evolve, teach Ice Punch and merk that shark.

I have never beaten diamond/pearl/platinum. I've always lost patience with how slow they are.

>>715020579
just use the speed up function on emulators?

>>715016621
Don't you need to first beat the game and grind battle tower before you can get a choice scarf?

>>715019670
Its been a while, looking a bit more out of boredom almost anything that learns ice beam and can withstand a an earthquake folds it pretty reliably, esp if you have an ice on them, fucking octillery can do it at equal level while tanking any of its moves and I'm sure you could find some goofy shit if you bothered to actually get something with a spa boosting nature or with even a few calcium on them.

>>715020579
>zoom zoom & gen beta (never alpha) hates the comfy slow pacing
ugh its all so tiresome

>>715017020
It will
Mine did back in the day

>>715020783
Previous gens were faster than 4 so this is a non-argument.

>>715016487
In the remakes (BDSP), this nigga is packing the berry that makes ice type moves normal effectiveness. He will tank your ice/water type and kill them. Absolutely diabolical change by the devs.

people dont abuse x items?

>>715020783
Yep, THIS is comfy chungus 100

>>715020873
did the remakes add the fairy type? if so i imagine togekiss deals with him then

>>715020873
He also has sword dance that he likes to use right at the start.

>>715019791
>>715020873
>the shitty remake actually did a good thing
I'm shocked tbqh

>>715020889
Correct. People who have fun playing games tend not to utilize mechanics specifically included to help people too lazy or stupid to win on their own.

>>715017295
>Bro you should look up meta knowledge before the game and not play blindly
Retard

>>715020873
use a bronzong with levitate to confuse or burn him

>>715021013
Only the gym leaders and elite 4 got buffed so the rest of the game is even more of a cake walk than it already was thanks to XP share and friendship spamming

>>715020951
yea fairy is in the remakes, thank you dragon gem latios

>>715018271
>>>/wsg/5919369

>>715016414 (OP)
this bitch is overrated, not once have I ever lost against her, not even when I was a child

>>715020873
he's also got full EV training (and the rest of the team too)
those games are comparatively stupendously hard but are designed to massively overlevel kids that are playing it so they don't run into it

stop making me want to play platinum again

One is missing

>>715020889
I dont think, in 25 years of playing Pokemon, I ever even touched a X item.

>>715019474
My wife stopped playing for weeks in Shining Pearl because of dying to Cynthia's Garchomp. I had to coach her on how to win.

So yes, this will filter women and children, hard.

>>715016414 (OP)
Are people just to retarded to teach their water bros ice beam?

>>715021669
empoleon is the 2nd most picked starter and garchomp just EQs it therefor a lot of people dont bother getting another water mon

>>715021136
Shame. I was actually interested now in pirating it with that, modern pokemon ain't worth even that

>>715021783
just use the pokemon randomizer and turn up levels by 20% and click the better moves box

>>715021908
Nah, I'm staying enjoying the originals on DS.

>>715018632
>>715018510
>>715018376
>>715017518
It doesn’t matter, the Sharia elders will turn him into a pretty girl, no matter what she speaks.

>>715016414 (OP)
Use a fast or bulky water type with Ice Beam

>>715016487
DP's endgame is hard. It's not a complete pushover like Platinum

nobody has ever gotten stuck on a story battle in vanilla pokemon. These games are designed for literal toddlers

>>715021908
I'll have to check out these mods at some point, they look pretty good.
https://www.nexusmods.com/games/pokemonbdsp/mods

>>715016760
Ice shard is not strong enough to OHKO that Garchomp, and the land shark will OHKO you back

>>715017395
>need solution
>give solution
>don't want to
>not my problem
>just say you were wrong
retard

>>715020873
so then ice beam twice nigga it's not that hard

>>715022483

>>715020873
>He will kil-ACK

>>715020873
Yeah, and then my ape on fire tanked the ohko Earthquake cause we are nakama.

I woud have played the remakes if they didnt force the affection mechanic on me, they had to make the battles harder to counter this bullshit.

Its as allways with Pokemon, 1 step forward-a thousend steps backwards.

>>715022483
Unless you have weavile with something stronger than ice shard, Chomp will outspeed and finish off your ice beam user if it didn't one shot it to begin with.

This is not SV OU or VGC. Chomp is a massive threat in PvE for a lot of people's teams, especially yache Chomp.

>>715022784
>level 69

>>715021314
What? Does this music and the rain on route 215 not feel like a real adventure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kzmK-v3prY

>>715022954
>switch into useless fodder
>max revive ice beam user
>switch back for free
>ice beam again

>>715022957
>N-NOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUN-ACK!

>>715022954
>fake out + Ice shard + expert belt
gg garchompiras

>>715016414 (OP)
>all that art of garchomp dicking down cynthia
>female
wtf brehs, porn artists lied to me

>>715016621
Nigger, your Froslass?
>naturally faster than Garchomp
>has Ghost coverage and immunities
>can even learn Thunderbolt for boltbeam coverage
It's super easy to get too. It's not even a high tier Pokemon so crying meta isn't applicable here.

>>715021392
Mew probably

>>715023696
>garchomp has fire fang
>froslass is weaker than paper

>>715023764
Behind the tree on the left.

>>715021392
Haunter?

>>715023872
>Lvl 65 0 SpA Froslass Ice Beam vs. Lvl 66 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 244-292 (102 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>Froslass base speed: 110
>Garchomp base speed: 102
Your waifu is shit, by the way.

>>715016414 (OP)
EV train your mons, tard.

>>715023187
>affection crutch

No, it doesn't count.

>>715023187
>webm
Beat me to it

>>715024346
>Froslass base speed: 110
>Garchomp base speed: 102
And Garchomp will tank the attack, Froslass won't unless you sacrifice an important item.

>>715024445
>And Garchomp will tank the attack
Read, you stupid nigger. READ.
>Lvl 65 0 SpA Froslass Ice Beam vs. Lvl 66 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 244-292 (102 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>715021761
A level 60 Empoleon with average hp/def and low EV investment can tank 1 EQ and guarantee the one shot. Even if you were caught off guard on your first playthrough you could just max revive it and get another chance to take it down. This is also completely ignoring how most players over level their starter and Empoleon would be significantly bulkier and higher level.

>>715020904
Now tell me which trainer in DPPT uses a lvl 100 Blissey.

>>715024520
>Read, you stupid nigger. READ.
READ, YOU STUPID. READ! >>715020873

>>715016487
>childrens game
all games are for children

I had no issue with Cynthia. Ghetsis and his Hydreigon gave me trouble though.

>Froslass
You can't obtain Froslass in DP
>expert belt
Once per day in an optional route that's out of the way. You also need the correct level for a chance to obtain it.
>fake out + ice shard
Pearl only. Must breed the move onto a late game pokemon, Sneasel, with a Glameow.

>>715024328
Yep!

>>715024703
This

>There are grown ups that simply can't press sum fackin' buttons properly
>mfw

>>715024645
>playing the demake
Oh, you're retarded, my fault. Carry on.

>>715016414 (OP)
You must be a special kind of retard to lose that fight, anyway, just use a Weavile and 1 tap the garchomp with an ice attack.

>>715024749
>Pearl only. Must breed the move onto a late game pokemon, Sneasel, with a Glameow.
Meowth works for the move as well and can be found on Trophy garden. But I think that's post-game

>>715024751
Nuh uh, it's below Magmar.

>>715024850
>trying to save face this much

>>715021392
I looked all over and I can't find Parasect.
>>715024328
Check again. Near the cliff toward the bottom by the trees. It's partially visible like the other two ghosts and better hidden.

>>715016414 (OP)
Just sent in my Sturdy Explosion Golem. GG bitch.

>>715025173
They always forget about my boy Parasect

>>715016621
I would have said weavile, but the issue is this is platinum, and the only physical ice move it gets in platinum is avalanche... which forces you to go last.

pokemon games need to be harder and make gym leaders with actual EV trained mons and better items, even if its only through their rematches
then again, shit dont matter when you can just over level your mons

>>715020873
>fairy exists in remakes

its fucking nothing lmao

>>715024914
Weavile doesn't learn ice shard if you evolve your Sneasel before level 49. Due to DP's level curve, many people end up obtaining the razor claw in Victory Road before their Sneasel learns ice shard. One of the most frequently asked questions on release was how to teach Weavile ice moves because it doesn't learn any and ice beam hits like a wet noodle.

Even after you obtain ice shard Weavile, Cynthia's Chomp in DP is strong enough to survive an ice shard from an underleveled Weavile and one shots back with brick break.

>>715025364
Battle Tower exists literally for this and it's ass cancer.

>>715025364
>pokemon games need to be harder and make gym leaders with actual EV trained mons and better items
>clover exist
>AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BUT NOT LIKE THAT FUCKING TRYHARD METAFAAAAAAGS!!!!!!
Eat a dick.

>>715025503
What's up with /v/ and immediately going for strawmen every single time?

>>715025589
Filtered.

>>715025451
>Weavile doesn't learn ice shard if you evolve your Sneasel before level 49. Due to DP's level curve, many people end up obtaining the razor claw in Victory Road before their Sneasel learns ice shard.
Move tutor in Crasher Wake's city. Can't recall if there's any requirements for it to be re-learned/appear on the list

>>715025615
What kind of response is this? You need to take meds, schizo. Where the fuck did I even mention Clover or whatever that schizo babble is on your third greentext?

>>715025589
Autists are prone to black-and-white thinking.

>>715025364
Why? It's a game aimed at kid. there is plenty of other Mons games that are made to be harder.

>>715022358
ice shard into aqua jet
milotic is a bigger threat unironically

>>715018271
How bad you have to be to struggle with vanilla pokemon?

the only time i remember having a difficult experience was when i was doing something retarded like wanting to beat the elite four with Jigglypuff and Bellsprout without healling during a match

>>715025503
Clover has cheating ass AI that reads your movelist and reacts to whatever option you pick. Otherwise it was good

>>715025626
It doesn't work that way in gen 4. If it isn't part of the pokemon's level-up learnset or a level 1 move, it cannot re-learn the move. Otherwise, obtaining spore Breloom would be trivial in the earlier generations.

>>715025710
majority of kids dont play pokemon these days
its fortnite or roblox's time now old man

>>715024751
Remoraid

>>715025835
Pokemon is still extremely popular with kids.

>>715016414 (OP)
>you've just defeated the Sinnoh Pokémon league champion, Cynthia, and you're about to be rewarded
what would you do in this situation?

>>715025736
>the bulky water that doesn't kill physical water types is less of a threat than the mon that just took two pokemon to bring down

>>715025902
GIVE ME YOUR HAT

>>715025824
I could swear I had a bunch of good moves on there without ever even having a chance to learn them for my mons.

>If it isn't part of the pokemon's level-up learnset
But Sneasel/Weaville do learn it, players just missed the window for learning it.

>>715025429
>Bro just hit him with a 2x fairy move instead of a 2x ice move
Same result. Unless you have a handcrafted strat to one hit or are overleveled, it can tank your hit and kill.

>>715026017
Sneasel learns ice shard, but Weavile does not as it learns dark pulse at level 49 instead. You cannot heart scale ice shard onto Weavile in gen 4.

>>715021201
I thought it was cute how that Tentacool came out of the sea to play its part.

>>715025665
Filtered as fuck lmao
>>715025776
>NOOOOOOOO THE GAME CHEATS AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
filtered

>>715025902
Have her pay for my ticket to Kanto so I can go back to my wife Erika.

>>715025928
that is if it is not consecutively
it's usually either lucario or togekiss, dropping an all out sp attacker vs mirror coat+ hydro pump is asking for trouble

>>715026575
But it doesn't always use mirror coat. Its ability to sack your out is really inconsistent. Most people 2-3HKO Cynthia's Milotic without any issues. Garchomp, however, is always a game ending threat.

>>715026240
Oh so you're just an actual schizo, can't even form proper sentences and can just parrot shitmemes from /v/

>>715025967
this

>>715026240
I wasn't filtered because I did beat the game. Kinda funny that they straight up make beating it impossible if you turn on shift because muh compfaggotry

>>715020889
i have never even used one

>>715026793
>>715026956
Post hall of fame teams or stay filtered, simple as.

>>715027075
I don't engage with schizos.
This will be my last reply to you.

>>715020889
>using items in battle
Save scumming tier and should be ashamed if you can't beat a simple game like pokemon without them

>>715025902

>>715027165
>you should be ashamed of using mechanics the game gives you
every single time

>>715027195
how sad

>>715027137
awwwww the little gay baby anon got his little sissy butt filtered by the meanie shitposter? aboo boo pooor little filtered guy, is ok little fella, you can play mainline pokemon is made for little kiddos like you.

>>715027195
>>715027586
TPCi's quality control forbids tits, ass, and swimsuits.

>>715027243
That's not a mechanic, it's an option to make it ez and failing at it after the GB/GBC releases.

>>715016414 (OP)
The only hard pokemon is online pokemon what the fuck are you doing its literally a children's game

>>715027697
But iono exists

>>715027705
>its not a mechanic because i said so
Wow, I guess pokecenters and pokemarts aren't mechanics too

>>715027826
>its not a mechanic because i said so
Mechanics are integral to the videogame; battle item is the only thing in the whole series that never had a real impact in the game beyond the early titles.

>I guess pokecenters and pokemarts aren't mechanics too
They aren't; they're part of game flow system as relief points, they don't have any internal working system affected or noticeable by the player.

>>715028157
>Mechanics are integral to the videogame
they don't have to, as long as they're part of the game you can normally interface it with following the game's rules
spin it however way you like, you ain't changing my mind and I ain't changing yours

>>715028295
>they don't have to
They do. Otherwise they're cosmetics as they only work for visuals which is already telling when you lost far more with the removal of the walking partner after HG/SS than by removing battle item. They're simply that irrelevant, a visual treat meant to be disposed is above it.

>you ain't changing my mind and I ain't changing yours
True but you're the one treating a simple healing point where you mash A as a feature integral to the functioning of the game as if it had anything more than press A to heal for free. Godspeed anon

>>715021392
Missingno

>>715020889
X items weren't really that good until one of the 3d gens I think made them into +2 buffs. Plus I think her Spiritomb has Embargo, but still anything with Swords Dance or Calm Mind would sweep Cynthia.

I literally beat this as a child

why does gamefreak favor fire starters so much? Blaziken into Infernape is just too much to not see the blatant favoritism, why is the grass pokemon never the fast sweeper?

>>715021085
>>715021467
>>715027000
>>715027165
I just beat Steven (Sapphire) with a team around Lv.42 average, not sure how that would have been possible without items. I'd rather play with minimal grinding + items than grind levels.

>>715028797
They have been good since inception as long as you have an opening to safely set up +6 buffs, then you can sweep. The only flaw is that there wasn't any X-Sp.Def until one of the later gens, but as long as you can outspeed and one shot any of the special attackers you are usually fine.

>level up my mons until it takes too long per level
>proceed
>never struggled
I don't get people who have trouble with these games, just level up your guys!

>>715029508
>meowscarada
>skeliderge

>>715029508
Serperior and meowscarada
Grass is just more of a defensive typing

>>715029617
Its silly because its pretty intuitive that the game wants you to explore and fight all the trainers and wild mons that you encounter.
Both give exp, trainers give you money, and you were incentivized to explore and capture mons for your dex while culling their general population

>>715029508
>why is the grass pokemon never the fast sweeper
Have you seen this thing? In practice it basically has Speed Boost but replace gaining Speed with using a free Tail Glow while using Overheat but Grass

>>715016414 (OP)
>Female

>>715029947
contrary is a hell of a drug

>>715023696
>>715024346
>naturally faster than Garchomp
Enjoy auto losing 14.98% of games

>x4 weakness to ice
Come on, anon...

>make a counter to dragon types
>by making it the dragon type but better
I see powercreep didn't just happen to pokemons but on typings as well

>>715024703
What about the ancient sport of kumite where two men enter but only one man leaves?

I don't know why you people are struggling. I just swept the entire Elite 4 with my Lv.100 Palkia I got from some rando on the GTS.

Is gen 4 the last mostly agreed upon good gen as far as actual battling and comp? I spent a good chunk of time doing battles online and in PBR. I did a bit of gen 5 and really liked Excadrill only to find out that everyone hated him for being OP.

>>715016414 (OP)
Lance's rematch team folds this bitch easy

>>715030634
>also nerfed steel's defenses to shill the faggot type

>>715031102
Gen 6 comp was pretty fun
However it was also the only gen I actually bothered to play comp in so maybe that's why. I played online in PBR too but I mostly just stuck together pokemon that I liked and had vaguely compatible types since the only reference I had for comp shit was a gameshark and a FRLG guidebook with a type chart and pokedex up to gen 3 in the back

>>715016414 (OP)
If you don't want to learn the game just grind. If you don't want to grind, just learn the game if you don't want to do either then why are you playing it?

>>715021392
https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/pokemon
lets cheat and find out

>>715030179
>Dragon Gem
>Bro thinks we're still in gen 5

>>715027195
but

>>715031102
No, comp players generally prefer the more recent gens. The whole "Pokemon peaked during the gens 3-5 I grew up with" thing is a campaignshitter idea.

>>715032817
post processing from the pokestudio editors

Throw bricks at meta/tourney faggots, they ruin every single game they touch

>>715032960
shut up casualcuck

>>715020889
ive done probably 30 runs of pokemon through different gens and used them approximately once when i first played my first one
t. compfag that has no qualms about using items in game
>>715027000
checked and based

>>715029508
>why is the grass pokemon never the fast sweeper?
Sceptile is fast and Leaf Blade is the GOAT grass attack in gen 3. It just so happens to get mogged by the other two.

>>715032860
tera > dynamax > mega evo

>>715033414
they're all shit gimmicks
megas at least had potential to help out some shitmons but they used it on too many pokemon who didn't fucking need it

>>715020904
Lol same HP bug happens in any Johto game compounded by how shit the leveling is too but know one ever brings that up

>>715016621
why use an ice type? just teach ice beam to a normal mon, or a water mon if you're a pussy
i think i had it on this lad last time i played the game
>>715020889
only in gen 1 where you can use an x accuracy to guarantee horn drill hits
are they any good in later games?

>>715032960
>meta/tourney faggots are manchildren that play a children’s game competitively it’s so fucking embarrassing seeing these bald and bearded smogon enthusiast coded losers

>>715019140
Hard to play with one hand

>>715033827
couldnt' say it better, thanks

>>715025626
Those move tutors are a lot shittier in DP compared to Platinum, plus I think it teaches Ice Punch instead

Cynthia leads with Sprittomb, which isn't kill your pokemon so you're suppose to set up and sweep.

>>715016414 (OP)
????????????????????????
your level 78 infernape with close combat sweeping the whole game????????????????????????????????????????????

>>715032960
>get owned at a game for barely literate children
>impotently seethe at anyone with an IQ over 105 for knowing what the funny numbers in their RPG game do

>>715016414 (OP)
>send out gyarados
>set up 2 dragon dances against spiritomb
>sweep her entire team
wow what a tough fight

>>715031183
Lol her rematch team folds that faggot easily

>>715022209
because platinum actually had fair level scaling while in diamond and pearl the elite four are retardedly overleveled

>>715025297
You mean Diamond? Ice Punch move tutors is in Platinum

>>715025297
the move tutor on route 212 teaches ice punch

OP is the type of person who screeches about XY being too easy btw

Real challenge is this faggot and his cheating facility

>>715029656
it’s tied with rock for having more weaknesses than any other type

>>715033854
Isn't there a built-in one handed mode where the left shoulder button is confirm?

>>715035513
[left shoulder button]

>>715019207
Idiot zoomer

apparently I never beat diamond and pearl because I don't remember this fight. should I go back and do it now so I can feel like I deserve to cum to cynthia porn?

>>715036957
yeah but platinum's a lot better, play that instead

>>715034856
love battle factory so much despite only having like a 34 streak

>>715037259
Its so fun, but such a pain in the ass. I'm still grinding emerald's before moving onto platinum's, and i've only made it to set 6 like twice. And the assholes upped the wins you need for the Gold print to 49 in Gen 4, lol

>>715036957
>>715037105
yeah platinum isn't artificially slow. diamond and pearl are glaciers

Steelix + leftovers, shellbell or some healing shit

Spam curse then earthquake

Pretty sure thats how I did it. Just pray you don't get crit during those first two curses

>>715016414 (OP)
>snowrunt used icy wind

lmao dragon grounds

>>715017020
It will....unless garchomp crits

>>715016414 (OP)
Gotta see your team first. Usually any ice attack on your water mon should be enough as long as it can withstand one attack.

>>715034704
>>715034793
My brain broke typing and am aware platinum has ice punch and level 66 garcomp being diamond.

I never lost this fight is /v/ just bad at games?

>>715037695
>>715037105
does it have more pokemons available? I think the reason I quit the first time is because I hated everyone except my starter.

>>715038053
DID YOU KNOW IN POCKET MONSTERS PLATINUM RELEASED FOR THE NINTENDO DS, DSI, 3DS, 3DSXL, N3DS, N3DSXL, THERE'S AN OLD MAN, WEST OF PASTORIA CITY IN THE SINNOH REGION, ON ROUTE 212, THAT TEACHES THE MOVE ICE PUNCH WHICH CAN BE LEARNED BY TRADING COLORED SHARDS YOU CAN FIND IN THE SINNOH UNDERGROUND USING THE EXPLOER KIT?

>>715038441
yeah, there's like 50 more pokemon in the dex
houndoom, all the eevees, gliscor, magnezone, gallade/gardevoir, togekiss, rotom, earlier gible, you can get after the 2nd gym

i'd look up the dex and see what and where you can find them, since some pokemon have weird evolution methods like piloswine needing ancient power to evolve into mamoswine

>>715038476
what the fuck is a sinnoh??

>>715021392
I can’t find Ditto

>He uses...
>Infernape
>Staraptor
>Luxray
>Gyarados
>Lucario
>Garchomp
Erm.... cringe.

>>715038441
Just download a full dex/randomiser/qol romhack. No reason not to.

>>715021314
Play it this winter, more comfy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5B1fKByIsc

Also try renegade platinum if you're sick of replaying vanilla

How much do I need to grind?
>Chelterrain Level 55
>Staraptor Level 50
>Yanmega Level 46
>Garchomp Level 50
>Gastrodon Level 46
>Lucario Level 51

>>715042243
can I make it so I can just use my 6 most favorite pogeymans from gens 1-4? is that cheating?

>>715038024

>>715042654
Cynthia's highest is 63 in platinum, so mid 50s will probably work

There's a lot of rare candies to pick up around the region so you could start there

>>715023626
>>715030052
Generally speaking unless it's a gender-locked Pokemon NPC trainers will always use Pokemon of the same gender as themselves.

>>715017395
Most intelligent and least brown Pokemon "gamer". It's not looking good for you guys.....

>>715042759
Platinum Cynthia is lower level but her team is overall stronger and has better AI compared to DP

>>715025902
Demand that she let me fuck her Garchomp in front of her

>>715025902
Demand she lets her glaceon and lucario knot me while watching as humilation

It's hilarious how Cynthia's team has been powercrept over the years. Now her Roselia, Spiritomb and Milotic are basically shitmons. She might as well just be an Ace Trainer you randomly encounter.

>>715027697
>TPCi's quality control forbids tits, ass, and swimsuits.
Not at all. Cynthia is just flat.

>>715019791
Give your mom a hug and tell her you love her.

>>715041735
clefable

>>715032860
Gen 3's meta has become very popular recently but you're obviously a fraud like everyone using yawnnigger bait like campaignshitter so I'm just wasting my time telling you this.

Will.shaun read this thread

>>715042738
Use X Defense on the snail.

>>715042654
I hate Anna so much it's unreal

>>715016414 (OP)
Get a Scizor and have it solo her, Jesus.
>swords dance x2 while spiritomb can do absolutely nothing about it
>bullet punch x6
Bg2ez.

>he didn’t bring his own garchomp
for shame

>>715016621
Then you sacrifice a monster.
Send out one that can survive OHKO and paralyze that bitch.
Then finish it off.
You don't need all 6 mons to beat her anyway.

I replayed platinum after playing some rom hacks and pokerogue which had a bullshit end game and it was really funny how pathetic these games are and I get that’s the point but damn, only the champion has a team with 6 mons and they have shitty movesets except for the Garchomp. You wanna know how a real pro fights Garchomp? They have all 6 mons alive and they just throw everything they have at him starting with most effective first because he will not sweep your team. Ever.

>>715016487
This.
She beat me like once and then I whooped her as a little kid.

>>715042738
Here's my plan
>Night Slash the Spiritomb down with Honchkrow holding Razor Claw hoping for good crits
>Flamethrower the Roserade with Infernape
>Wood Hammer the Gastrodon with Abomasnow
>Earthquake the Lucario with Gastrodon
>Ice Shard the Garchomp with Abomasnow - continue with Blizzard if it lives the Brick Break, Ice Beam with Gastrodon if it dies.
>Milotic uhhhhhh idk

>>715024703
If all games are for children then explain why I have to wear an ankle bracelet for letting the neighbor's daughter play Lost Life on my computer, faggot?

Why is there a schizo on /vp/ who hate her so much

>>715047513
/vp/'s like some neo-sharty shitposting colony with a schizo for everything at this point. retarded board

>>715016554
This unironically makes it harder though.
It’s why Pokemon Stadium is harder than any of the main games because the ai just does whatever the fuck it wants to.
and generates many funny Werster clips

>>715016894
Nearly every Water type also learns Ice moves

>>715016414 (OP)

>>715025503
clover is still just mashing A to sweep every battle you sperg

Set mode sucks even though I’d never ever play shift unless it’s a modern Pokemon game where I’m forced to

>>715020319
>uh they probably won't like if both Defog and Flash are HMs, let's get rid of Flash

>>715016414 (OP)
strongest champion

>>715025503
Dear Cloverdevs; stop cheating.

>>715017052
Ok I figured out the solution to this is to give it Choice Specs and spam Surf.
>>715017614
Not really a terrible choice I think considering Surf is a special move and Waterfall is physical, they're good for different situations.

>>715042738
>>715047448
Give Gastrodon toxic, ice beam and leftovers, then set up a bit against her own Gastrodon or Milotic. You can kill them with Toxic and then one-shot the Garchomp with ice beam.

That's what I did when I did a poison team run last year or so except with Tentacruel instead of Gastrodon. But it should still work, you just need to use items instead of barrier.

Cynthia sexo

>>715023626
she's such a pokefucker

>>715016414 (OP)
hate when this happens

>>715016414 (OP)
>Finally got past that stalling milotic
>Whoops looks like you're out of items and all you're pokemon are one hit gg

>>715025671
You literally described npcs retard

>>715016414 (OP)
you should have built some kind of strategy before hand
if you're really struggling just get a weavile or something though or use your setup TMs that you've been hoarding all game and never used, or use berries so he doesn't one shot you, or idk, there's like 20 different solutions

>>715042738
just juice up gastrodon with some X items

>>715047448
>every single mon is sweeperslop
lmao

sweeperslop isnt a real word

>>715051139
yes it is

>>715016414 (OP)
I never fully understood why Pseudo Legendaries exist and why only one evolution line per series?

>>715051534
Well there's two main reasons for them to exist.
Firstly they're good bossmons for the endgame as you can see from nearly every champion using one.
Secondly it's a good endgame failsafe if you're having trouble with the game and don't want to use an outright legendary, you can spend hours grinding up a pseudo instead.

>>715051797
They are just so bizarre to me. Back in Crystal, with Tyranitar being one and me unknowing, I kinda shrug him off as having a shit load of health since he manage to tank more than 3 hits of Aqua Tail from my Feraligatr and get me down to low red health even though my pokemon was 3 levels higher.

do I play the new one or the old one?

how is the emulation of the new one?

>>715051534
Gen 3 had two lines. But that aside, it's also nice to have a high investment, high reward line for the endgame and postgame. It annoys me more that they're almost all dragons. GF could've experimented a bit more with interesting type combinations for them.

>>715016487
floatzel used ice fang, it's super effective!

>>715016414 (OP)
die

>>715038441
Yes, vanilla Platinum has more pokemon available in general. Gliscor early game is a massive change to the experience. It also does a visual overhaul in a couple of places so it looks less basic if it makes any sense.

i want an actual sinnoh remake, instead it was skipped for a dogshit spinoff like arceus

>Garchomp Giga Impacted Bronzong which gave me a free OHKO Blizzard on it with Abomasnow
>this is her last Pokemon
If I fail I'm literally ragequitting.

>>715060123
Why are you fighting level 60s with low 50s pokemon?

>>715060123
>KO'd by Wood Hammer reocil
FUCK YOUUUU
>>715060182
It's the level the game spat me out of Victory Road at and it matches the first E4 member, pretty sure it's the intended level range for this.

>>715060374
>>KO'd by Wood Hammer reocil
lmfao

>>715060123
I applaud the selection of your pokemon.

>>715060374
>KO'd by Wood Hammer reocil
I love when that happens in battle facilities

>>715023187
>words words wrods wrods words words
jesus christ what happened to the RPG mechanics

>>715060182
Because he's playing original DP. You come out of Victory Road in the mid 40s unless you funneled all the exp into one pokemon.

>>715023187
what the christ are you talking about

>>715016414 (OP)
KWAB

>>715022784
Look how fucking long a single turn still takes takes despite not being the 4th gen engine