Is there much point in buying one if you already own a Switch 2?

>>715020908 (OP)
only for emulators beyond that its shit. why anyone wants a deck 2 is beyond me cause this shit already plays all the emulators.

>>715020908 (OP)
No. It's outdated and unlike Nintendo, Valve isn't really supporting it. Might as well roll the dice with one of the other pc handhelds

wait for deck 2

>>715020908 (OP)
Third party games

>>715020908 (OP)
Yes, it plays third party games better than the Switch 2, Steam Deck 2 will be the go-to for third party games. The Switch 2 is for Nintendo first party games.

>>715020908 (OP)
it has many magnitudes more games, including nintendo games

>>715020908 (OP)
PC games alongside most old games in general, it's also a much better media station than any console. Other UMPCs do the same and are also worth checking out.

>>715020908 (OP)
There's not much point in buying one in general unless you want an oled screen.

>>715020908 (OP)
Did you mix up your post? The switch 2 is the questionable purchase, not the deck.

>>715020908 (OP)
Yes I can actually play Mother 3 on the deck unlike that piece of crap

>>715021967
Being able to stream vidya to your bed is pretty comfy ngl. I'd get it for that alone.
Sure it's not that powerful, but if you have a good PC as well then you can pretty much play anything you want on it.

>>715020908 (OP)
No
Infact you TOS says you aren't allowed to own one or Nintendo will brick your switch 2.
So be happy with what you got

>>715022260
You can find better non oled handhelds on sale that are cheaper and more powerful.

>>715020908 (OP)
Buying a Switch 2 MADE me buy a Deck OLED. I want a screen that doesn't look like sludge.

>>715022465
>3-12 hours battery life
Yeah I fucking doubt that bro, maybe you can get 3 if you have the OLED one, but if you're pushing the regular then you'll get barely above 2.

OLED

>>715020908 (OP)
Ever since I bought SD I didn't touch my Switch OLED. You probably need to buy 30USD DLC first to have the same experience on Switch 2 though

Trying to decide between a deck OLED, odin 2 portable, and a retroid.

>>715021109
current steamdeck is weak + not great battery life.
It would be cool to see steamdeck with modern cpu architecture.

>>715022614
Yeah but they're not the deck so I sleep.

>>715022824
Deck is better bang for your buck.

>>715022752
Barely 2 hours on lcd? Are you running windows by any chance?

deck can easily play more games including switch games as good or better than actual switch can so unless you're really desperate to play midkart world or donkey kong i dont know why anyone would ever prioritze switch 2

>>715022996
I have a gayman PC, though. My primary concern is display, followed by controls. I don't need/want to play PC games.

Is the Retroid Pocket 5 any good?

>>715023047
If you're pushing the deck to the max, yeah.
Something like Dredge gets me to 60% after 1.5 hours, though I start off from 90%.

I actually just bought the Legion Go S since Best Buy had the Z2go Windows 32gb / 1tb version for $50 less than the 512gb OLED. Plan on installing steamos on it when it gets here. I figure it will perform a bit better than the deck due to the added ram and tdp settings, and i really didn't care much for the trackpads.

>>715023285
Top of the mid-tier, bottom of the top-tier. Yeah.

>>715023285
As long as you aren't expecting perfect ps2 and aren't getting it to play switch games, yeah.

>>715023421
You mean perfect PS3? It should be perfect for PS2.

>>715020908 (OP)
You will get spoiled by it's screen and the Switch will look dated in comparison.

Just buy a laptop. Handhelds are a meme for millennials.

>>715020908 (OP)
If there's enough games you want that aren't on Switch and you don't mind (or even enjoy) tinkering occasionally it's a really cool enthusiast machine

>>715023803
How do I use said laptop lying on my back in bed?

>>715022752
stop running shit at max tdp

>>715023573
Nah. Android ps2 emulator is dead. Look up ps2 videos for pocket 5. Games like Dirge and other games that have issues with android ps2 emulation are meh on the pocket 5. Joey had a comparison video where he tested the games on his odin 2 which the pocket struggled to show that even odin 2 has some issues, but less.

>>715024000
>using android
Pretty sure both the retroid 5 and odin 2 are linux-compatible now.

>>715023916
You put it on your belly/chest. A handheld is even worse because you have to hold it up which will strain your arms after an hour or two.

>>715023996
I don't know how to limit it.

>>715020908 (OP)
deck sucks
Just get the latest stinkpad. Every laptop manufacturer falls for the slim meme for they are quite light now. If you're gonna game on the bed, just put it on your lap.

>>715020908 (OP)
deck sucks
Just get the latest stinkpad. Every laptop manufacturer falls for the slim meme so they are quite light weight now. If you're gonna game on the bed, just put it on your lap.

>>715024000
>wasted trips on wrong info
You can dual boot into Linux on both those machines. The rocknix fags were holding out for dev consoles from AYN, but caved and released it anyway.

>>715020908 (OP)
so you can buy games on sale for $5 rather than pay $60 on the tendy eshop

>>715020908 (OP)
I just got all these for my deck. I can't wait to play them all!

>>715026001
>ignores all the other games on the eshop

Why are deck fags this retarded?

bros... i have the lcd deck... is it over?

>>715026015
I liked Tevi, but it's not as good as Rabi-Ribi.

How good is PS2 emulation on the Retroid Pocket 5?

>>715024182
if you're using an LCD model press the ... button and go to the performance tab and limit it as much as you can without impacting performance

if you have an OLED, TDP capping works a little different because it's a more strict power limit that will hamper performance a lot more.

you need to do this in conjunction with limiting the most power intensive game settings, usually shit like shadows

>>715022465
>>715023047
>>715023996
lol

>>715028469
>Buying a surprisingly expensive device to play poorfag simulator like you are using an office shitbox to try play vidya.
Steamgoys are truly a cult.

>>715020908 (OP)
UMPCs have little to no value, and it has nothing to do with the Switch

>>715031081
>1:16
something isn't right about those numbers because even with the original 40w/h battery and the deck going at fucking 26W, you still get 90 minutes. 26W is already the deck cranked to its knees

>>715031205
>adjust settings so you get 3 hours of battery life for minimal visual loss
>no, I think I would rather run everything at max for 90 minutes on this 7" screen I can't even tell the difference on anyway
you're a retard

>>715031587
Sorry your toy sucks

>>715020908 (OP)
Yeah, so you can sell your shitch 2.

>>715031587
>the goydeck already struggles at full throttle
>"no goy you should be making it even weaker so the battery lasts longer than 30 minutes"
grim

>>715027068
I heard but the gameplay looked more fun

>>715026087
Because they think switch owners only play nintendo games

>>715032414
Which in turn is largely projection from snoys only playing snoy games, at least until they find fortnite and hoyoslop because there's nothing else on the PiS5.

the switch was just the right size, i'd even say the switch lite was the perfect size. i hope the switch 2 lite becomes a thing. even with big hands i'd rather get one so i can throw it in a bag more conveniently.

>>715032176
>ue5 slop and the most notoriously poorly optimized crapcum game barring wilds
those run like shit on full size cards that run at 10x the power too

>>715020908 (OP)
If you play games primarily on PC, you don't have to re-buy every game you already own to play portably.

>>715032176
>modern AAA on steamdeck
It was not designed for this, and that should be clear to anyone who isn't retarded.
Go play civ 3 on your switch 2 or rog ally and tell me how good it was you faggot and don't forget to tell how long could you play on battery

If you want to stream games at home, Deck is actually really good for that. Pretty low latency. Make sure you have a solid wifi 6 router.

>>715033030
Problem is if all you are doing is moonlight then you are legitimately better off with a chinkdroid.
Even your phone with a bone controller would be better and cheaper.

This thread reeks of nintendie shills.

>>715033285
Aren't you tired of getting laughed at, eric?

>>715027774
Shit unless you install linux.

>>715032464
I've never owned a shitch, but I agree the deck is just too fuckin big
thing is chunky like an elevator controller at a steel factory

>>715026087
buy both, you can use the switch 2 for bing bing wahoo and zelda, and the deck for 95% of games. or you can just skip the switch and miss out on mario/zelda and play the other 95% of games that matter

>>715022752
Depends on the games. If you’re running switch tier games with graphics from 2015, you’ll get many hours out of a single charge.

>>715035000
Don’t need a switch 2 to play Zelda

>>715020908 (OP)
>all these deck cucks getting worked by OP
Great thread, i'm posting it next week

>>715026015
>Mirage Feathers
Based and funpilled

>>715020908 (OP)
The eck is a meme, just use a laptop, even the shittiest chromebooks can run Dolphin these days. unless you really want to play Elden Ring at 22 fps on low settings on a brick, the deck is worthless.

>>715020908 (OP)
Yeah. I find a lot of older games have interesting or even necessary mods, and it's not really much work to set up most of them on the deck (many might need just a single rote startup option that injects DLLs).
It's a stable platform for your less demanding steam games. I have both a Deck OLED and Switch 2, and both devices get plenty of screentime during the month. I'll use one more for one or two weeks depending on what I wanna play. That's how it was with my Switch and Deck, and it's remained the same now.

deck sold like shit
stop pretending it's an thing people actually use

>>715043186
by what metric? deck is the best selling UMPC on the market

>>715043564
>by what metric
real numbers
switch 1 sold 152 millions
switch 2 already sold over 6 milllions
steam deck only sold 4 millions

>>715043791
deck is a handheld for enthusiasts. it's a complimentary device to a PC for the novelty of playing full fledged PC games on a handled
switch is a console targeted primarily at children so that timmy doesn't hog the TV from mommy and daddy

these are not apples to apples comparisons. they're not the same market. you might as well throw iphone sales in the mix because zoomers love playing fortnite on their phones

>>715044193
>it's meant to sell like shit, that means it's for "enthusiasts"

funny how the "switch killer" suddenly doesn't count as a fair comparison against the switch

>>715020908 (OP)
sell shitch 2, get oled deck

>>715044283
UMPCs are an enthusiast market, shitposter-kun

>>715031081
both of these times fucking suck what the hell happened to handheld battery life

>>715044193
>enthusiasts

>>715020908 (OP)
If you already have a steam account yes. I don't see why not. Unfortunately it's not as accessible to buy as a switch 2 is. Valve should sell them in other stores instead of being a steam only product.

>>715023285
Yes. It is very good.

>>715044562
lol you're never letting go of that word to sugarcoat the true meaning: failure

>>715044629
Batteries didn't evolve that much and handhelds now use the most hungry screens possible...

>>715044283
I sure love Sales and Sales 2. Some of my favorite video games are Famitsu, Metacritic, and The Q3 Report. I sure love Mcdonald's and Walmart. You tendies are fucking deranged and hate video games.

>>715044795
>spend years saying the switch will sell like shit
>becomes the most successful console ever
>the steam deck becomes the failure you wish the switch was
>S-SSALES DON'T MATTER ANYWAY
you always knew people voting with their wallet count more than any cope you can ever write for free. And now you lost

>>715044725
if it was a failure, valve wouldn't have put out an OLED model with plans for a future full hardware revision. it's literally the best handheld I've even owned

>>715044935
between the two models they sold 3 times less than the wii u, let that sink in
>it's literally the best handheld I've even owned
and trannies say veilguard is the best game of the year, but clearly, the opinions of an extremely small and pathetic minority don't count

>>715044904
>spend years saying the switch will sell like shit
who are you quoting?
>S-SSALES DON'T MATTER
they don't. sales != quality. call of duty sucks

>>715044935
if the zune was a failure, then why did microsoft relese the zune HD?
this obviously means the zune is the greatest media player ever

>>715045027
when you start to believe that objective proof of success doesn't matter, you're gone beyond salvation
you got so used to failure you erased the concept of success off your broken brain

>>715045010
>between the two models they sold 3 times less than the wii u
the wii u was a console from one of the big 3, who cares?

>the opinions of an extremely small and pathetic minority don't count
the opinions of people with shit taste don't matter and the average person consumes absolute slop. the reason we have such a decline in quality is because quality no longer matters. the markets have expanded to the point that retarded third worlders are lapping up our entertainment so there is no reason to put in effort anymore

>>715020908 (OP)
I got one semi-recently and I like it. I had a Switch 1 and enjoyed playing handheld around the house but hated the library and prices. With Deck, I have all my steam games and new games are usually cheaper, or I can pirate. Performance is pretty good for what it is. I'm playing Elden Ring on high with pretty minimal frame drops; it helps that you have PC graphic settings in games, so you can tweak individual things like shadows. Plus, unlike the Switch 2, you can share your saves between your main PC and your deck. For me, this is perfect because the only time I really take it out is on my train commute; I can be playing Death Stranding at home, grab my deck on the way to work, and continue pretty seamlessly. This ended up being a huge thing I never thought about before buying, it's extremely nice to have, especially for more graphically intensive games where you may want better performance for most of your playthrough. Form factor and quality of parts are good (although I think the left mousepad should have been above the left stick), but, unless you have the expendable income, I would take the cheaper model over the OLED. I got OLED because I had fuck you money from my bonus, but it's really not worth spending an extra $200 imo. Overall, I give OLED 7/10, other models 8/10, but you need to really think about how much you play on your PC.

>>715044367
>deck living rent-free in tendies heads
here's your single (you)

>>715045218
if your measure for success is sales or gross revenue then the last jedi is an objectively better movie than the empire strikes back

Why are Normalfags, Xbots, Snoys, third worlders, and trannies so fixated on pushing this Switch vs Steam Deck, Nintendo vs Valve war so badly?

>>715045010
>an enthusiast PC handheld sold worse than mainstream normie consoles
>this means its bad to tendies
>>715044904
>try to cope by bringing up your resentment towards an imaginary individual that has been telling you your cult of personality console "will sell like shit" for "years"
>>715045010
>>the opinions of an extremely small and pathetic minority don't count
>except when normies shit on nintendo for 10 years, that doesn't count
>tendies cant comprehend people on the board dedicated to video games on the famed chinese rice trading forum would be saying the enthusiast gaming product that sells less than the mainstream gaming product is the choice to make.
You realize they sell less acuras than hondas, right? Tell me about how hondas are way better

>>715045575
>star wars analogy
deck trannies are never beating the redditor allegations

notice how he has no reply to the zune post
it destroyed his argument

>>715045670
>cries reddit when he doesn't have an argument
lol

>>715045708
i'm not him, but you're a fucking underage retard. the Zune was an iPod clone and the Zune HD was an iPod touch clone. Zune HD was not a "sequel' to the Zune outside of the name, it was an entirely different product because they were trying to compete with Apple in the "next frontier" of MP3s. The OLED Deck isn't a completely different product, its the same as the existing product with upgrades to the hardware. What's your response to my point about honda and acura, retard?

>>715045708
Valve isn't microsoft and they don't behave like microsoft. When their hardware flops, they don't keep pushing new revisions of it. The deck, and to a lesser extent the index, is the only hardware that valve has seen enough success in that they want to keep perusing.

>>715043186
>posting this image in a deck thread that has nothing to do with the Switch 2
the irony

>>715022465
People that are too stupid to realize the Steam Deck is the better choice deserve the Switch 2. Capitalism would not be as successful as it is if it were not for low IQ consumers that will buy the the most socially popular thing without thought put into better alternatives.

>>715031081
>>715031372
Im the anon that recently bought one. There's a ton of variability in the battery life based on the settings you turn on (like a PC, you can prioritize battery life vs. performance) and the game you are playing (obviously a 2025 AAA is going to drain battery faster than a 2017 AAA). Given the Switch 2 genuinely has a shitty battery life that you can't alter in anyways, this faggot probably cherrypicked his Deck settings. Notice he doesn't even show that they were playing comparable in intensity games.

>>715044283
>goyslopdonalds sells the most goyburgers in the world!
>I won't go anywhere else!
good goyim

>>715046312
we know, these metrics are always only ever interpreted in the most uncharitable ways possible for the express purpose of shitposting

the steam deck is just a poser pc for people who are too broke to afford a real computer or even a laptop
they can't play new games so they just pirate old games everyone else already beat

>>715047519
the steam deck is for people who already own a PC with an existing steam library, it is literally designed for cloud sync'ing games between devices and playing them on the go

you are this threatened by a fucking handheld and don't even understand it

AMD's latest APUs have improved significantly on the GPU side. I'd wait for the underclocked/modified/binned for low powee consulption versions of the Strix point halo to become available for handheld makers. My coworker bought an hx370 laptop and the performance is insane for an APU, but it's too expensive and power hungry for a handheld

>>715047706
No one is threatened by a handheld that in 3 years sold less than what the switch 2 sold in one day

>715047519
OK?

>>715048393
Clearly they are or they wouldn't have spent those 3 year relentlessly shitting up deck threads.

Want to play light or old PC games and emulate old systems? Get a Deck.
Want to play new console exclusives and some light or old indie ports? Get a Switch.
There's literally no reason why these two clash with each other. The only reason you might be torn up is if you're a kid with no money or a manchild who has allegiances to a company.

Am I crazy? Why would you ever get a Deck when you can get a ROG Ally? I don't care for handhelds, but it seems like the same thing but more powerful

>newest Switch video from DF drops
>suddenly 3 anti Deck threads in the catalog
lol these niggers are already done with Mariokart and will use any news to shitpost

>>715048930
trackpads
better software integration
functional suspend and resume mid game
your sd cards not getting melted

>>715048843
You should only buy the Switch for Nintendo games. A 600-700 dollar laptop is sufficient for portable gaming these days as long as you get the latest generation Intel or AMD chips. They've both made huge strides with their iGPUs. AMD wins out at the higher end, but at that price point you could get a laptop with a dedicated gpu.

>>715020908 (OP)
why the fuck would someone with an once of self-respect buy a switch 2?

>>715049098
>a laptop is sufficient for portable gaming
lol?

>>715048930
PPPD-488

>>715049039
>implying they can actually enjoy playing videogames in the first place
you're giving the cattle too much credit

>>715022465
my $20 chink controller works on my switch 2 just fine
and i have a real PC to function as a PC
the only real concern is the battery life but so far my sessions have never lasted long enough to run out of it

I don't get the portability of these things. A laptop plays whatever game you want, from any room in the house, without the need of moving your rig. Are there people playing video-games outside? I can't even imagine it.

>>715049187
<3

>>715026015
>FFX Remastered

>>715049187
Did you need to look that up or did you JUST KNOW?

>>715020908 (OP)
playing any of the thousands of PC games that aren't playable on the switch 2?

>>715049430
Mods can fix that easily nigger

>>715049292
to play on a laptop you need:
>a mouse or controller
>power brick
>flat, hard surface
>an outlet
>"portable"
yeah, no

>>715049461
No they can't.

>>715049442
it's one of my favjavs

>>715049519
>Grab a controller
>Put it on your lap
You might not know this, but laptops have batteries.

>>715049536
Hello tendie
https://www.nexusmods.com/games/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/search?keyword=PS2

>>715049589
>Put it on your lap
Enjoy the first degree burns and infertility. I'll pass.

>>715049519
Just put it on your lap. A laptop will last longer on batter will last longer than either the switch or the deck unless you got a really cheap one

>>715049653
>Enjoy your infertility
I have children. Have you even had sex, handhelder?

>>715049678
my steam deck lasts longer than I need for a single session of gaymen for anything but the most hardware intense slop

>>715049768
>30fps

>>715049461
incorrect, this is not fixable

>715049867
>didn't even read the reply chain
Obvious ragebaiter is obvious
No (You)4U

>>715049819
30fps on newer stuff is just the price that has to be paid when you're playing on a handheld that caps at 15W TDP because it has to obey the laws of physics, but now you're just goalposting

>>715049940
>The price that has to be paid
You have the weakest hardware between the Switch 2, ROG Ally and Deck. You can't afford the price kek

>>715031690
what an ugly mod lol

>>715049917
that linked mod is an attempt at fixing the problems, no one has succeeded.

>>715049964
right...

>715050068
>715050072
b8/8

>>715050116
Yes? You proved my point hahahaha

>>715020908 (OP)
Steam deck emulates and plays all the best games ever made pretty well.

Literally the only game your missing out on is Bloodborne.

Unfortunately since Sony doesn't have any exclusives I'm pretty sure Bloodborne remake is going to be the PS6 launch title in order to actually sell the shit.

That means a worse experience for an actual PC port.

Anywho, you should just buy a PC that's as powerful as a steam deck. Which shouldn't be expensive. There's zero reason why you would ever be playing a steam deck outside.

>>715050161
Good thing emulation exists lmao

>>715050147
How?

>>715050251
That must run like dogshit. Total dogshit. I should redownload it though to test it out.

>>715050304
I drop the settings enough and I can get 60fps

>>715050341
I don't believe you. Do you have any footage? Would be cool to see

>>715049964
NTA but switch 2 and deck trade blows when it comes to performance.
>>715049768
Laptopa theae days are so efficient they run even cooler than the Deck and you can do much more on them the on the deck. Just having the keyboard opens up more types of games you'll be able to play.

>>715020908 (OP)
Yeah.

>wasting your life on video games

>>715050364
Just try it yourself because some retard will just call it fake

>>715050423
I don't have a Deck, just a PC

>>715050371
I have a laptop. I use it for doing work. Having to plug in a controller and deal with all of that shit is just a pain.

The deck is way more painless, you can just pick up and play it (literally) and start and stop without giving a shit because it actually has functional suspend and resume while PCs just don't.

>>715050304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczQta2AU2w

>>715050664
Hey, that's 30fps, not 60fps! I'll say though, it's crazy the Deck is outperforming a base PS4. I didn't even think it'd be able to run it.

>>715050402
>Taking manhood advice from a bald man wearing glasses
No thank you

People like living in the Mario Jail.

>>715022465
>this kills the nintranny
>>715049261
cope harder nintranny
>i have a PC to function as a PC
i love when people cope about extra features of a device, same as iphone trannies coping about removal of headphone jack back in the day
>i have a dongle
>i have wireless headphones
sadly many retarded manufacturers followed suite

>>715031205
cope and seethe
limiting TDP =/= lowering graphics
if you play shit like 2D games you dont need max TDP
would love to see your $500 toddler toy have that option

>>715020908 (OP)
Only if you like playing games. If you don't then yeah, buy a switch 2

>is there a point to having access to games that aren't nintendo
that's only something you can answer

>>715020908 (OP)
Yes. It plays basically everything. Switch 2 can only play and do a tiny fraction of what the Deck can and is significantly worse as a handheld. Valve's support for it is also far better, plus there's community support.

>>715020908 (OP)
Yes, its a full Linux gaming laptop at a budget price and first class driver support. I use it much more for coding and shitposting when traveling than I do for games.
>b-but how can you say its a laptop if it doesn't fold and have a keyboard
Just use a bluetooth keyboard, tardo.

>>715020908 (OP)
It can run Fallout 4 modded and MGS 5 portably, while the Switch can’t

>>715027068
>Tevi
Tel Aviv
>Rabi-Ribi
Rabbi

>>715051429
You can mod mgs5 on dreck too

>>715022752
If you're running something like a VN you'll get 8 out of the LCD and 12 out of the OLED. Everything else is entirely dependent on the game. The problem with the Switch 2 is it'll still only get 2 hours even on Mario Kart or even super simple shit like Welcome Tour.

>>715020908 (OP)
>Portable PC which can play 30 years worth of PC games and also has access to emulation
Nah, I think you can skip it and just keep playing only MKW for a few more months

>is there a point of getting grey when the tiny bulge on red exists?

So how many of these games can I play on my switch 2?

sd oled has oled screen
switch 2 has the slowest screen recorded in humane history

>>715049653
It's called not buying a gaming laptop.

>>715051743
Probably more than half of them. They really liked porting old games to the Switch

>>715052053
>the slowest screen recorded in humane history
I would bet good money its faster than your TV

>>715052269
why would you want to lose money
even if you have a VA the slowest dark pixels tend to have transitions in the 20-30ms range while rest can be in 5-15 range

With sw2 all the pixels are slow
theres no black smear, theres just smear

>>715020908 (OP)
You've got it backwards. The real question is if there's any reason to buy a switch 2 if you have a deck. And with modern nintendo being a soulless suit driven shell of its former self, I would argue no.

>>715052269
you have to go back a decade to see tvs that bad even being sold
who the fuck disables overdrive on a fucking tv, something that's as inefficient as screens go

>>715052269
>TV
?
Average gaymen monitor is 1ms btw

>>715052568
no it's not, watch the video that came up with those 33ms switch 2 results
average monitor is between 5 and 10, oleds are 0.3

>>715052613
look at literally any high refresh monitor in 2025 and you'll see 1ms delay, sometimes 2ms at the most. many are starting to advertise .5ms delay at this point

Deck or Legion Go?

>>715052820
Legion Go with SteamOS is pretty good, but you give up trackpads, which I think are vital for a ton of games, and it's not OLED.

>>715052820
Do you care about touchpads?

>>715052803
thats a common misleading marketing issue
only oled has true <1ms pixel response times

TN has best lcd transitions around 2-3ms for the high end esport monitors, then some ips has <3-5ms and both cost like 600€ for a 24" 1080p display obviously

>>715052803
then you're falling for marketing, the little blurb in the monitor listing is a lie
even high end tn monitors are still sucking dirt compared to oleds when it comes to response times

>>715052910
Can't you just use a mouse in place of trackpads?

>>715052937
Not really, I'm more worried about power and battery life.

>>715052269
We're talking about screen on mobile device here.
Only desktop monitor has the privilege of low response time on IPS.

>>715053245
Yeah retard, I'm going to hold my deck with one hand while I use a mouse on whatever surface area I can find. Just get the legion go if can't understand something as simple as dual touchpads on a handheld.

>>715053647
>ugh you retard kb+m and tables don't exist

Based faggot.

>>715053245
You could for certain games, but it's not ideal. If it's mouse only or you're also hooking up a keyboard, sure, but even in that situation you're losing a lot of the portability factor. The original Legion Go has that mouse mode with the controllers, but it kind of has the same problem which is probably why they ditched it with the Legion Go S.

>>715053872
>Defeats the whole point of a handheld
Get a laptop then?

I love playing tactics ogre on my 'eck. Can't wait for that shitty fft remaster

>>715053963
not him but i'd rather have an 'eck 2 and carry my peripherals around if i plan to use it that way over a laptop

>>715054020
The whole point is that you shouldn't have to carry all that shit when you have a steam deck. Just get a laptop if you plan on setting up a whole "mobile desktop" situation. Stop being retarded.

If you want to play tendie games then get a shitch
If you want a portable gayming system then get a 'eck

>>715054020
If the deck 2 makes you have to carry around those peripherals then that would be a significant step back from the deck. One of the reasons its so good is because you don't have to, which is why the trackpads are important and it's annoying other handheld pc makers haven't really figured that out yet somehow.

How good is the emulation on the retroid pocket 5? What can it emulate?

>>715054298
Zotac zone implemented it but I question its quality.

>>715054149
If you want to play nu-tendo's soulless slop, get a switch 2. Deck can already play all the real nintendo games.
t. just spent the last few hours playing smash remix on my 'eck

>>715054348
just search on youtube lazy nig

So in 10 years will we get a pre-alpha shitch 2 emulator?

>>715054134
laptops have shit keyboards and worse trackpads and significantly worse battery lives
it's a really shitty ship of theseus
gaming on one requires being stationary and plugging a mouse in while the 'eck just requires you to sit down like you would playing anything else that isn't some turn based phone game
60% boards are small as shit, they're basically deck sized and mice have always been small
i'd rather pack them and pull them out as necessary over needing peripherals to game on a laptop

>>715054020
Recent laptop makers all fall for the ultrabook meme. As long as you don't buy gayming laptop, they weight 3 pounds at worst.

>>715054504
Guess what, you don't need any of that shit when you own a deck. Surprise, surprise. The touchpads on the deck are great and how you use them to type on the decks on-screen keyboard is nothing like you've previously experienced. This is my last post on this topic. Do what you want.

>>715054627
you don't need to
but you can
using your own mouse and keyboard and using the built in controllers is much better than using the laptop's keyboard and trackpad and packing your own controller

>>715054627
>The touchpads on the deck are great and how you use them to type on the decks on-screen keyboard is nothing like you've previously experienced.
I mean, it's serviceable for needing to do something in desktop mode but I wouldn't describe it that way.

>>715054615
there should be an actual gaming laptops with proper mechanical hotswappable switches and 1 more kilo of aluminium fins and copper pipes for cooling
you'd have a hard time finding a laptop that isn't pointlessly slim

Should I get an Odin 2 or a Steam deck?
I'm mainly gonna be playing retro games but I want the option to read Visual Novels too.

>>715055614
>arm
irrelevant until proton gets ported to android and deck 2 will launch by then

>>715055614
linux runs 99% of vns out of the box. renpy games run natively and unity games run through wine.
niche japanese games are the only case when it can be problematic to use linux for VNs, so unless you're a weeb you'll be fine with a steam deck.

>>715055614
There's a reason everyone just says get a Steam Deck. If you want to read a lot, the Deck's bigger screen will also be better. Odin2 only really seems more convenient for android games or if money is really tight and you absolutely have to have something asap and can't spare an extra $100 for the Deck.

>>715054938
As much as people like to dunk on ultrabook, being able to carry a laptop around in my backpack without feeling like I'm toting a brick around is quite amazing.

>>715055614
Winlator and the like are little more than proofs of concept at this point, ARM still has an entire decade to go, given optimal conditions, to actually put up a fight against x86.

I specifically got the Deck to put all my emulated games on it instead of having it on my PC clogging up storage.

>>715055614
android is pretty bad for VNs, stay away from that meme.

>>715055614
Just get the deck.

>>715056012
proton 10 supports arm64
from there it's a straight shot to go to android and to effectively turn phones into entry level steam gaming

>>715056079
>clogging up storage
a 1tb ssd is $50

>>715020908 (OP)
I don't think so, even as someone who only has a Deck. You don't *need* more than one high-end handheld. You would be better off with a powerful PC to use alongside the Switch 2.

>>715056229
It's nowhere near that simple.

>>715055614
Steam Deck.
Odin 2 has an ARM CPU, like >>715055821 and >>715056012 said.
If you need help with visual novels not working, go to https://www.vnwiki.xyz/
If you need handholding, go to their discord and ask for help, they'll guide you step-by-step.

>>715056527
>https://www.vnwiki.xyz/
Damn, that's nice. Thanks.

I'n waiting for the Steam Deck 2
Imagine buying a Nintento branded Tegra tablet, lol

>>715056386
>You don't *need* more than one high-end handheld
You do if you want to actually play games on it portably. The S2 is exclusively for people who want modern Nintendo games and think modern Nintendo hasn't completely shit the bed.

>>715056979
the power isnt even that bad thanks to dlss carrying the image quality but the display and price of actually getting games that run on the device are just wack

SD2 with fsr4 + oled screen is gonna be much better for almost anyone

>>715056386
only reason to own a switch is to play online nintendo games. I'll even admit that i played totk on my PC instead of on the switch.
but i will always recommend people to try out games like mario kart and splatoon, because those are unique games that aren't in the PC library.

>>715057130
>Switch 2 uses AI you can't toggle for rendering games
The absolute state, these pieces of shit are just locked down PCs now.

Hi I'm from the future
I brought the Steam Deck 2, it's not worth it desu.

is there a reason something like this hasn't happened yet

>>715057685
wat

>>715057020
>>715057138
I agree (mostly). My post was coming from the assumption that someone already owns a Switch 2, in which case the Deck seems like a frivolous purchase. The Deck is better, overall, unless you solely care about new Nintendo releases and the "it just werks" factor.

>>715057685
I think ltt made a video like that

>>715057815
a cooling system that can switch between being a handheld and essentially strapping a cpu heatsink almost directly to the SoC

Uglier, slow, less powerful than the Switch 2, hard pass.

>>715050402
>that fucking tryhard with the cigarillo at the end
Holy shit what a faggot

>>715059139
its not less powerful in handheld mode tho
at most you can say since games are optimized for switch 2 that games run better than pc versions of a game runs on deck + dlss quality vs fsr obviously

>>715059447
>at most you can say since games are optimized for switch 2
The problem is even this kind of thing isn't true anymore. Optimization for specific consoles used to mean improvements to performance without just sacrificing visuals. Now they just nuke the the settings below even the lowest pc settings and call it a day. We can't even get an equal comparison between the s2 and deck in handheld mode because cp2077 in s2's handheld mode is locked to lower than the lowest deck settings and the deck still beats it.

>>715052568
Gaming monitors are a world of difference between standard monitors, much less average TVs.

>>715020908 (OP)
A jailbroken switch 2 might actually compete with it with box64

>>715052568
Your $200 Hisense TFT TV is not an "average gaming monitor"

>>715051440

>>715020908 (OP)
Only if you want to play a lot more games on a better screen, otherwise no reason

>>715020908 (OP)
>only plays 99% of all games ever made
>portable
>Open OS and platform

Dunno. Are you a seething tendie? This is important.