Thread 715028586

Is this the most forgotten Smash game? Even with the 3DS version saving it sales-wise due to the Wii U being a massive failure, it's everyone forgets it exists. It feels like it was just a prototype for Ultimate, since it played and looked the most similar.

64 was the classic that started it all, Melee was the huge sequel that made Smash into a big, core franchise that established what Smash is today and started the competitive scene. Brawl was cinematic, had a long campaign, and introduced a much larger roster and 3rd party fighters. Ultimate has a massive roster and has every fighter, and is just the most popular by a huge margin due to the immense popularity of the Switch. Smash 4 had a handheld version and... custom moves which was scrapped with the next game. It felt like a placeholder and it's the only game

>>715028586 (OP)
I'm retarded and forgot to finish my last sentence. it is the only game in the series that lacks an identity of its own.

Yes anon, you are very observant. Have a cookie.

>>715028586 (OP)
I still think Smash Run should have been in the Wii U version

there's just no point in going back to it because ultimate exists, similarly to no point going back to brawl for A LOT of reasons

>>715030265
Brawl single player is still fun. You're right about the multiplayer though, outside of mods.

played it more than Ultimate, dropped Ultimate within the month it came out

>>715028586 (OP)
I won't allow it! I won't let people forget how good Smash 4 was before the Bayo and Cloud retardation!
Fuck those retards at the EVO finals who didn't do anything in the Bayo mirror for four minutes. They're the reason Smash 4 has a worse reputation than Brawl!
FAGGOTS!

>>715028586 (OP)
Smash Run was a great gamemode
Mega Man's custom moves were a lot of fun to play with
Cutting Pac-Maze in later games was criminal

>>715028586 (OP)
I'm still mad smash run never came to ultimate, more challenges and an online mode would be perfect

>>715028586 (OP)
I remember not really wanting the 3DS version due to low graphics and I knew Wii U flopped so I waited for Switch

>>715030265
Both Brawl and Smash 4 is not worth returning to. Smash 64 has its own unique charm with its simple mechanics and aesthetics to return to, and Melee with the amount technical depth and speed that isn't present in any other Smash game. But Brawl and 4 have nothing going for it, except at least Brawl has the subspace emissary if you really want to replay a mediocre campaign again.

>>715031240
Wii U deserved all the hate it got. 3DS can be excused with Smash Run, a better Classic Mode, and good stages.

>>715031373
Wii-U having large Samus breaats in HD is all it has going for it.

>>715031240
Honestly even maining dogshit Ganondorf and Charizard I felt the balance was good enough and I was content, Bayonetta completely destroyed everything. Smash 4 was good but just felt replaceable when Ultimate released.

I played this more than Ultimate. The game was better looking and the online was better (and free). You'd jump on For Glory (or For Fun) and get matched with someone and you could change your fucking character between matches. Ultimate won't let you do that.

>>715031580
I do think it was great and I never got tired of For Glory. It's just that Bayonetta ruined it if you had to face her, and Ultimate gave little reason to return. I also might have played it more than Ultimate but I can't check my hours.

>>715031284
>Cutting Pac-Maze in later games was criminal
The gimmick maybe wouldn't have worked but fuck it, cut the gimmick from it and bring it back. You had a stage based on one of the most popular games in history and threw it away. Pacman is only represented by some MSPaint abortion of a stage now from a game nobody played.

>>715028586 (OP)
>Is this the most forgotten Smash game?
Brawl was completely eclipsed by Project Melee and real Melee.

>>715028586 (OP)
Ult just kinda stole all of it's thunder.

4 tried to be more competitive than tripping simulator, then ult pushed it further

4 had the biggest roster and stage selection until ult went "everyone is here!"

4 came with big crossovers like Cloud and Ryu only for ult to go "here is the guy from the biggest game of the 21st century"

If the game hadnt been retarded with the way it handled custom moves it could at least have been the game with the most versatile characters, but as is its legacy is the bayo mirror in comp and "the game that HAD the ballot but the chosen characters showed in the OTHER game" for casualfags.

>>715031673
Oh yeah, the game became near unplayable with Bayonetta but before that it was a lot of fun.

>>715031284
They really could've added some CE music too, real missed opportunity
>>715028586 (OP)
It has a good Mewtwo and was the first Smash I took somewhat seriously. Played a lot of it and Melee. I do think Ultimate is better as do most people, but I don't want to ignore what it was. Bayonetta was broken but Ultimate also has its own problems and isn't that fun to watch now which is how I felt about 4 late into its life.

>>715031373
>and Melee with the amount technical depth and speed that isn't present in any other Smash game.
Because it was unintentional.
I believe that an unbalanced game like Melee that is a spectacle for adhd children and retards is not a good game, not going to deny it has a lot going for it but its biggest detriment is its meta and its community.

>>715028638
If Wii U doesn't have an identity then neither does Ultimate.

3DS version was such a mistake holy shit. Smash Run was the only worthwhile thing to come out of that piece of shit, otherwise it handicapped the Wii U version immensely.

Much like Mario Kart 7 and 3D Land, it's a great game that was outdone by its iterative sequel in almost every way.

Online was fun, it was my first real competitive smash moment so I carried the style to melee and MOG
Fuck dash dancing and wave dashing

>>715032740
I don't know what it is, but MK7 and Smash 4 are a particular style of game I'm not sure quite how to describe. It's the kind of game that feels simplified compared to a previous iteration, but then gets a sequel that just builds upon its foundations and the games its sandwiched between end up making it look much less interesting in comparison. MK7 was sandwiched between Wii and 8, 4 had Brawl and Ultimate. And yes, I know Brawl was already simplified from Melee, but it is still more unique and janky compared to 4 which has much less tech, although 4 in particular got some of the tech patched out.

>>715031373
Brawl has the most side content. Melee is only worth returning to if you want to sperg out and fight the same four characters at a dying local scene.

grab -> upthrow -> uptilt uptilt uptilt

:)

>>715028586 (OP)
I had a blast with the 3Ds version.

>>715028586 (OP)
This is actually the smash I've played the most. Never got into ultimate but I enjoyed this with friends a lot. I really enjoyed playing Robin and my friend would play Shulk and those matchups were crazy.

>>715031532
Bayo was such a joke. Although it was funny seeing that gay sperg Captain Zack cry about how his character wasn't carrying him anymore. Which also lead to the pedo cleansing so maybe it was for the best

>>715033720
>grab -> downthrow -> nair -> raptor boost