What are good Metroidvanias to play, I hate hollow knight, but Sotn is my favorite.

>>715029634 (OP)
Chronicles of the Wolf has those gothic vibes you might want.

>>715029718
Installing the demo right now to try, thank you for being a human

>>715029634 (OP)
Gestalt Steam & Cinder is ok if you like steam punk

Environmental Station Alpha, best vibes ever and fun to play

>>715030064
If your a junkie for finding obscure secrets then you'll love it.

>>715029634 (OP)
Ex Vitro, it's free on GabenStation

>>715030084
didn't know that I needed a steam punk game to play
>>715030234
seems like a good challenge
>>715030487
>>715030234
Definitely playing it then

>>715030234
>>715030943
ESA is great. Should mention that the bulk of the game is fairly straightforward, but some of the post-game content can get pretty cryptic, more along lines of La Mulana.
Also, there's a sequel in development, but it's more of a backburner project for the dev (Hempuli, who also made Baba is You, and just released a solitaire collection on Steam). The dev also recently updated ESA with various performance improvements and bugfixes.

>>715029634 (OP)
Try Blasphemous and that Deedlit game

>>715029634 (OP)
Try out the other Igavanias. Order of Ecclesia is my favourite.

>>715030465
playing the game now, reminds me alot of Le pacte des loups film
>>715033397
I'll play all the DS and GBA games at some point
>>715033078
Im on the edge about Blashpemous, but I'll buy the Lodos War game

i really liked this one. felt very much like konami's games.

>>715034270
Try touhou lunar knights it's by the same devs as deedlit
Also shinsekai into the depths is super underrated it's basically subnautica but a metroidvania

>>715035184
Installing the demo to play
>>715029718
Finished the demo, pretty good game, will wait for a sale
>>715036531
I'll wait for a sale on Luna Nights

>>715029634 (OP)
Rabi ribi is the best game ever made

>>715036947
im not playing Rabbi Ribi

>>715035184
I liked Blade Chimera the most of Team Ladybug's games but I'm also incredibly weak to lady spirit companions

>>715029634 (OP)
Ender Lilies is worth taking a look at. Depending on what you hated about HK you might bounce off it, but I feel like it's a mix of all the best ideas from IGAvanias executed well. Plus the music and graphics are nice.

>>715029634 (OP)
>huge Lodoss War anime fan
>found out what Wonder Labyrinth is about
>can't bring myself to play it

>>715038839
Why?

>>715039302
the game's story is about the protagonist coping with the fact that all her friends are dead

>>715038223
I like the look of the game more than HK. I'll trust your suggestion and bite the bullet on it.

>>715029634 (OP)
how do you hate hollow knight
I don't get it

>>715034270
Was obviously the inspiration for bloodborne.
>>715029634 (OP)
Ultros, chronicles of the wolf, gal guardians, mark of the Ninja, salt and sanctuary, moonscar, last faith, >>715036947, mandragora, maharachi, crow sworn and crown cathedral.

>>715029634 (OP)
I just finished playing Chronicles of the Wolf which is basically a Castlevania without being directly derivative.
It's pretty good in that it starts out very linear, gets more complex and sprawling and then you hit a big area and that it is
Near the end I started getting a bit frustrated with scouring the map and getting a few items that felt like disguised keycards (1-2 uses to unlock places, some more cool than others) but that's about the point where it got simpler and rushed toward the linear endgame so the pacing was actually great overall. (caveat that I didn't do the optional superboss grind though)

deedlits game is ok but short as fuck, all team ladybug games look and play the same and are short as fuck

>>715040947
not a fan of playing 2d dark souls, im tired out of soulslikes atm, but I'll try mark of the Ninja

>>715041213
Some games should be 6 hours long

>>715041323
sure has nothing to do with what I said

I enjoyed Guacamelee because fighting is a bit fun being juggling and combo focused combat along with how the game wraps back into the hub with very little redundant back tracking. With the lack of back tracking through areas you've just been in the game has much better platforming sections than the standard metriodvania. Not only that, but a couple of your acquired attack moves double as a means to platform to net you vertical height or launch you more horizontally.

I don’t know how you could possibly hate Hollow Knight. But anyways, here’s watch I have in my collection besides Hollow Knight

Blasphemous
Blasphemous II
Bloodstained Ritual of the Night
Bloodstained Curse of the Moon
Bloodstained Curse of the Moon 2
Ender Lillies Quietus of the Knights
Ender Magnolia
Deaths Gambit Afterlife
Elderand
Environmental Station Alpha
Ghost Song
Lost Ruins
Momodora: Moonlight Farewell
Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight
Momodora III
OwlBoy
Rabi-Rabi
Record of Lodos War -Deadlit in Wonder Labyrinth-
Salt and Sacrifice
Salt and Sanctuary
Shantae and the Seven Sirens
Shantae Half Genie Hero
Shantae Risky’s Revenge
Tevi
The Last Faith
Touhou Luna Nights
Unsighted
Iconclasts

>>715041651
you seem an enjoyer of a really wide variety, thats great
have you tried the Ori games?

>>715041805
I have been putting them off. But they look enjoyable

>>715041265
2d souls like are the better souls games imho. Souls like are fine, but mechanics like death run are antiquated.

>>715041651
>Salt and Sacrifice
Shame, he got greedy and we got a bad game. Salt and sanctuary 2 seems to be too much asked for.

>>715029634 (OP)
King's Field

>>715029634 (OP)
I love Deedo's game

>>715042907
A dungeon crawler is not a Metroidvania. But King’s Field is a good game. If you’re looking for King’s Field likes. I suggest Hark the Ghoul. There’s also Lunacid but the character creation screen has that pronoun rubbish.

>>715029634 (OP)
https://youtu.be/dEprZ_J7Wuk

Momodora is really nice but short as fuck

>>715038223
Started playing and it clicks with me.
>>715043326
Makes me want to replay cavestory

>>715043161
Lunacid is NOT a good game or a good kingsfield like

>>715045631
I have little reason to disagree. I heard the ending sucks.

>>715045631
Indeed, it's too easy to break and author regularly inserts discord tier humour into it.

How do you get over the fact that metroidvanias waste your time by artificially inflating play time by having you traverse the map over and over unlocking doors previously locked because you didn't have the power up until some boss? Doesn't the repetitive back and forth, trial and error, bore you? You don't feel like your time is disrespected?

>>715049226
No, it feels like a power trip. You're stronger and can do things you previously couldn't. The better way to organize these secrets is by having them lead to new sub-areas rather than a singular powerup in a corner though.

>>715049226
the alternative is souls games and souls-like which they artificially inflate my play time by having bosses input read, delay attacks, 10 hit combos, weird hitboxes and bloated HP...

>>715029634 (OP)
Vigil: The Longest Night
Awaken: Astral Blade
Axiom Verge

>>715049226
No because it rewards exploration and memorisation. There’s usually a lot of hidden rooms filled with unique items or power ups.

>>715049226
>How do you get over the fact that metroidvanias waste your time by artificially inflating play time by having you traverse the map over and over unlocking doors previously locked because you didn't have the power up until some boss?
that's the whole reason people play metroidvanias
it's fun