Thread 715057167

When will original hardware purists and CRT shills wake up and realize that there are just better ways?

>>715057167 (OP)
For ps2, the ssd mod is basically required you will not hear many counter arguments. Sony’s build quality on those laser assemblies was notoriously shit. They didn’t have the “nintendium” or whatever magic plastic

>>715057726
Or...or...just use your PC and an OLED monitor.

>>715057938
I’m for og hardware, but with mods. I’m not poor though so I sympathize with your plight Pablo.

>>715057167 (OP)
I have two PS2s. One is a slim with a working disc reader(I can also use it to load games by the ethernet port) and one phat with an HDD.
Then I also have a Component video cable. Hook that up to a modern TV and set the image mode to 4:3 and it's about as good as it get, for just about any game.

For older stuff, I use SCART RGB and a chink upscaler. It's about 90% as good as using one of those expensive, artisanal crafted upscalers that cost a ton and have waiting lists for purchase.
I did try getting a PVM but it's just stupidly expensive. The few that I've seen were comically expensive. I could buy a motorcycle for the same money.

>>715057726
I've got 3 launch model PS2s and have never had an issue. I'm convinced the people complaining about the lasers are living in a swamp.

If no one begrudges vinyl collectors for maintaining a music collection through records why is owning old game consoles being treated as arbitrary stubbornness and refusal to adapt?

>>715058084
>One is a slim with a working disc reader(I can also use it to load games by the ethernet port)
How does this work? I wanna do this

>>715059259
Google up a guide, it's not hard. You use an ethernet cable to link it to your PC, place ISO images on a shared folder and load it via the linux tricks on PS2.

>>715059259
I've done this but I tend to get loading hitches.

It might be because I'm doing it over a wireless bridge, though.

>>715058171
nta but ive been through 3 Ps2 that all suffered from laser issues (2 slims, one fat).
But then again, i was playing that shit daily

>>715059387
Zero issues doing it with a direct cable.

>>715059259
Look up OPL and FreeMcBoot, it should take about 10 minutes.

>>715058694
It's sour grapes from people who didn't get in before the Covid boom. Now they can't afford to buy retro games and so cope by relentlessly shilling for emulation and against physical media.

>>715057167 (OP)
Yeah I just have a PC connected to a CRT TV instead, runs pretty much all the emulators I care for. I don't care that much about OG hardware, convenience & performance of PC emulators are just unsurpassed. The CRT TV kinda has to stay though, games look totally different on that thing compared to my modern 4k screens.

>>715059957
>against physical media

But I've also started losing my sentimentality for physical media myself, I just won't speak out against it because my preferences don't represent the greater good.

The fat PS2 I use FreeHDBoot with still reads discs of all kinds without issues.

>>715059957
There is no such thing as "physical media"

jacking this thread for a fmcb softmod question
anyone know how to load games on to opl without having to take out the hdd every fucking time? it seems like usb doesn't work so i'm not sure if there's any alternative

>>715060650
Get an MMCE compatible memory card. Make sure the SD card you use is not a SanDisk and that you use 32kb cluster size. It's the most reliable method for PS2 game loading.

>>715057167 (OP)
Modern hardware is soulless and not fun to use

>>715060325
PS1, PS2 and PS3 were made to last

PS4 and PS5 were made to last until the next iterative console release

>>715060885
seems good but ngl i really don't feel like spending $50 for a memory card, is there any other way? to be clear i only want something i can use to transfer games to the hdd. i'll get this thing if there's nothing else i can do

>>715057167 (OP)
When PCSX2 becomes as good as original and as easy as putting in a disc or pirated .iso without tinkertrooning the settings mid gameplay

>>715061412
can you ftp them?

>>715061312
>PS3 were made to last

>>715061312
ps3 did not last, at least the original model didn't

you probably think gender doesn't exist either

>>715061436
Is this post from 2014?

>>715057167 (OP)
troonlators on a monitor with max resolution and such just turn everything into a soulless indistinguishable blob like modern games

>>715061412
You can get a Bitfunx PSxMemCard Gen2 for 31 dollars right now on Amazon. It works with MMCE. Not a paid promotion, just saying.

is ps2 emulation just doomed? will there ever be a pcsx2 usurper? i STILL can't get the vast majority of 2D games to look right and using reshade for crt-royale barely helps

>>715061436
i can't even get a ps2 game to run in an emulator. i've tried a dozen times on almost as many different PCs. closest i get is the game freezing on an initial loading screen and the emulator crashing if i press anything. i fucking hate it.
>use latest pcsx2 stable
>use a recommended NA BIOS
>try multiple file types for games, zipped and extracted, always seems to TRY to load at the very least and always crashes the emulator
>this makes me think it's a BIOS issue but i flat out cannot do anything more with BIOS files that i haven't already tried. i have even tried using a bunch of available PAL BIOS' out of desperation.

there are easily 50 PS2 exclusives or games that work best on PS2 that i want to play. i am losing my fucking mind here.

>>715061461
doesn't seem like it works for games
>>715061754
yea that's more reasonable, maybe

>>715061878
>doesn't seem like it works for games
damn, thats how i do it on my xbox.
for my ps2, i use a sata to usb adapter.

>>715061876
same here but i have not tried more than a couple times.
it's so fucking ridiculous that on the other side of the fence, you can install dolphin and load a .iso or .cvz or whatever and it just fucking works, and if there are any visual errors the wiki has 1 or 2 quickly changed settings that fixes it.
the only game i have had permanent issues with is Ultimate Spider Man and i'm 99% certain that was the worst version of the game to begin with.

>>715061876
You just point the emulator to the .iso and it should run it no problem. What are your PC specs?

>>715062065
yeah that's what i use too, i just hate taking the hdd out of the ps2 to do it

>>715062115
What are your PC specs?

>>715060129
>But I've also started losing my sentimentality for physical media myself
skill issue. growing up, sadly, is realizing that the things you enjoy are choices you make every day.

I have a Slim model with FMCB ans a CRT with component and I still emulate. A lot of games either run like horseshit or simply don't look that great without at least a bit of upsaling. For some reason, NO ONE ever talks about performance.

>>715062179
>>715062245
idk the specifics but it's not a specs issue, i can guarantee that.
my PC plays current AAA VR games on PSVR2 without a stutter, no problem.

and i keep finding games that are a zipped .bin file. should they all be .iso files? am i just being screwed by the modern internet's ability to be useless?

>>715059704
did you actually attempt to fix them before getting a new one? majority of those problems are really simple to fix by adjusting the sled elevation or laser potentiometers. all you need is a screwdriver

>>715062512
What do you mean you don't know? Just go into Windows System settings and use CPU-Z. There might be compatibility issues even if it's a good PC.
>and i keep finding games that are a zipped .bin file. should they all be .iso files? am i just being screwed by the modern internet's ability to be useless?
Some PS2 games came on CDs and their disc images are .bin + .cue (two files) instead of .iso. You point the emulator to the .cue file in instances like those. If you don't have it, use one of those websites that generate the correct .cue for the corresponding .bin.

>>715062731
>You point the emulator to the .cue file in instances like those
fuck me i don't think i did that. that's the like, 1kb file that is along with the proper sized .bin, right? why the fuck doesn't PCSX2 *SAY* that?
>you appear to be loading a .bin file. please try loading the associated .cue file
absurd that it has to be a fucking safari across the internet to get that instruction.

and if something specific about my mass-produced prebuilt prevents it from playing PS2 games when everything else runs like butter, i'd GENUINELY rather believe it's my own fault instead. genuinely. i have enough gripes with technology to learn i'm being crippled by it in yet another way

>>715063014
Anon, you might be retarded...

>>715063014
>>715062512
bin/cue files means it was ripped from a CD. iso is DVD rip. bin is the file cue is like a playlist or something. it's retarded

>>715063183
fine
so be it
funny how most other emulators, including the 'terrible' n64 emulation, are so incredibly retard proof

>>715063014
>why the fuck doesn't PCSX2 *SAY* that?
Because it's common knowledge when it comes to emulators. You always do that with systems that are exclusively CD-based like PSX or Saturn.

>>715057938
>OLED monitor
480Hz with a CRT simulation shader ( https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation-in-a-gpu-shader-looks-better-than-bfi/ ) is getting close but still not fast enough. Maybe 960Hz will be enough to look like a real CRT.

>>715063492
your explanation is great and concise, appreciated. makes sense.
but there is seemingly no reason the program cannot just attempt to load the .cue file when the user provides it with a .bin
i haven't programmed for 15 years and i know it should be trivial to implement

>>715063643
some binaries have multiple data streams so it needs to tell what "tracks" have what. it's very CD specific.

>>715063808
i get it now, yeah. explains why the game could load the loading screen but crashed as soon as it attempted to also run audio or something

okay i loaded the .cue and it did the exact same crash on loading screen as when i loaded the .bin, except the emulator briefly flashed the name of the game this time and the game now shows up in my history

don't tell me road trip adventure is specifically hard to emulate or some shit because i have looked and looked and found nothing mentioning problems

>>715064097
oh and i can access the emulator menu without it crashing now. that's a step forward i guess

making the ultimate ps2 is more expensive than buying a used ps3

>>715062731
i went into 'windows settings', as in the modern windows settings with big useless buttons for bullshit i don't need and i have no idea what you mean by cpu-z
did you mean enter that into a command line? that seems like a command line thing.

>>715064392
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

>>715064320
ps2->40$
hdd->40$
hdd expansion->20$
sata/usbadapter->20$
fmcb mc->10$

bc ps3 that dies in 2 months->300$

>>715064580
>click this link and download this program just so i can 100% make sure that you don't have some incompatible hardware
you are a delusional moron lmao. i do not care if this is as well known as 7zip, i am not downloading a program for that purpose alone.
how about list common incompatible shit and i'll see if any of it sounds familiar

>>715064097
>>715064175
tried a .iso game (battlefront 1) and it just crashes at an initial black screen

>>715064882
trying a multitude of different BIOS files and having the same result

>>715064592
>300$ for a used ps3
where the fuck do you live lmao you can buy a switch for less

>>715064592
>ps2->40$
Lol
Lmao even

>>715063636
or you can just get a used PC CRT that runs at 60Hz from your local electronics recycling center, probably for free even.

>>715064592
A working PS2 runs around $100 these days. No clue why, they only made 160 million of them

>>715065861
He means for a full BC model.

That said none of the four I have ever cost that much (I think I only spent $120 on the first one and the other three were $100 or less).