This board is pissing me off
>>715079948 (OP)What does it even DO
>>715080373Don't make him angry...
>>715079948 (OP)>Starwalker: The World!!!!
>>715080373The weather duo
>>715079948 (OP)>>715080505genuinely what the fuck is his problem?
>>715081109He's a stone cold killer
>>715081109He IS the original Starwalker
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>>715081109it all started with that damn bird...
Why does he try so hard to please (you)?
>>715079948 (OP)>Oh? You're Approaching Me?
>>715081642he knows that he's just a shitter darkner and we'll seal his fountain if he steps out of line
>>715081642Trying to keep us roped into the adventure so we keep our connection going. They need us, even if Kris doesn't like it, so Ralsei is taking on the burden of sucking up to us so Kris doesn't have to.
>>715081642he's a student of the gas man
>>715081850all that for 14 damage btw
>>715081850Doesn't really hit hard knowing that Kris was sandbagging and just pretending to fight
>>715081729>Gaster works at a gas stationKINO
>>715081954probably fits when the rest are SWOONed
>>715081260So Queen is a thinkpad, yet she's modelled after the oldschool mac pc's. Bootleg much?
>>715081850yeahh we're just gonna spam rude buster to beat this bitch
>>715081260Oh I just realized Nubert's supposed to be one of those laptop nipples
>>715083163i thought he was a whacka
the polyamory subplot was entirely unecessary
>>715083163I thought he was added as a joke for that one anniversary stream of Chapter 1, so that the only new thing added to the anniversary version of Chapter 1 they streamed was a guy called "new"bert. Also isn't Starwalker some guy's character that Deltarune co-opted?
>>715080992Who DOESN'T do them?
>>715081642because he's gay
Schizobosses are all stages of Grief
Jevil is Denial, his "haha but i am free" schtick is pure delusion. Or Jevil is acceptance and knows freedom is a sham, he's as free inside his cage as he'd be outside of it and in this, i'll give Jevil the acceptance stage
Spamton is bargaining, he is making deals with the devil to see heaven, but it all crashes down on him when a puppet without strings is nothing more than a pile of junk
Ramb is set up like a schizo boss but isn't, he is depression, he is just on borrowed time and he knows it, rather than to deny or negotiate his freedom he just passes it and leaves it to Kris
The knight is anger, she is PISSED off and the lack of a freedom motif is because the knight is shackled like no one else is
The real one that represents denial is Ralsei, he is set up to die and fall. His attempts to conceal vital information about the prophecy is just him delaying the inevitable, the final tragedy isn't the fated girl dying or being sacrificed, it is the girl sacrificing her hopes and dreams. The first and only time you see the music title drop is in ch.1's dark world, ALL darkworlds are fields of hopes and dreams and Susie is fated to wreck them, Castle town is the final fountain to seal
>>715085349>not making Gerson acceptance
MODS, MODS!
THEY MADE ANOTHER ONE! COME HERE THIS INSTANT!
>>715081850Oh shit, the guy behind the choice is making another animation???
>>715085534MODS DOUBLE HIS PAY RIGHT NOW!!
>>715085478That'd imply Gerson has ever felt anything within grief, that and i'd go off rails for that boomer and label him as Regret, he definitely had some unresolved things that he can't make ammends for now that he's dead.
Like dude is damn aware he's already dead and accepts that, but honestly he does not fit the stages of grief for one prime reason: He is already free, freedom in death.
>>715085790>Double his pay>The double of 0 is...
>>715084259What kind of delicacies can you make with a Nubert bump?
And how many could you farm from him before he... you know.
>>715085403Reminder that she only does webm related if you fix him, and will keep on him his red giant coffee coaster if you keep him broken.
Toriel hasn't changed at all from UT. None of the 6 main characters have. They all have the same strengths and weaknesses of their counterparts, and Toriel's is her cowardice to face reality and also having a human fetish.
>>715086098>the tv is actually a magic personhow is that her fault
What the fuck was Lil Krisโs problem?
>>715086098I do find it really fucking weird she doesn't throw out Tenna when he's broken
>>715086230he wanted to be a strong man
>>715086098Toby's is highlighting a lot of the flaws of the Undertale cast, though.
Who is the Forgotten Man trying to help that he can't remember?
>Himself
>Kris
>December
>Someone else?
>>715086098It's nice that Kris and Susie both have a long-nosed weirdo they identify with
>>715086306It's so you don't have to confront the choice of whether to bring his corpse to Castle Town
Also it adds a little thematic something extra to the Chapter 4 end cutscene
>yfw The Roaring Knight appeared.
>>715086306>>715086098>tenna isnt thrown out if hes brokenProbably for gameplay reasons, but I do wonder what happens if Tenna is left out in the rain AND if you don't go back to see this.
>>715086465i wonder if ralsei's gonna get a long-nosed weirdo of his own.
I CAN'T ESCAPE IT AIIEEEEEEE
>>715086230He did it in the name of love. But love too is an acronym.
>>715086430mfw
>I WILL BE COUNTING ON YOU
>>715086430an Earthbound reference...
>>715086541>"FUUUCK TENNA">first thing that comes to mind is kris somehow doing it>pans over>"oh shit its a titan from the prophecy, how did that spawn in?">"The Roaring Knight appeared."i literally kneeled irl
>>715086604Is it possible FRIEND INSIDE ME was just Toby acknowledging that Deltarune is basically a fantasy Toy Story?
>>715086230>Murder Kris' friends for no reason in a game>Scare the shit out of Kris>Try to kill Susie which sets up a romantic scene>Watch as Kris fumbles it like the autist freak he is>Walk awayIs he the true hero of the prophecy?
>>715086734>first thing that comes to mind is kris somehow doing itYou might be right.
>>715086541KRIS ISNโT THE KNIGHT???? BUT TENNA SAID... (I didn't do Sword Route in my first playthrough).
>>715086717>>715086430>next Egg session, Kris and the Forgotten Man take a coffee breakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LZ1GqSrEE
>>715086768It's more like a video game version of Adventure Time or Regular Show
In my playthrough, I missed the scene where Asgore admires a "black shard" in Carol's room. Now I saw it and understand why people think that he will be the next schitzoboss. The question is: was he looking at a shadow crystal of his own, or at Carol's katana?
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>>715086401When you learn what Papyrus' character weakness is, you'll never be able to unsee it in the Undertale variant.
Or he'll stay perfect; which is fine.
>>715086230How the fuck are we linked to him?
Kris drops the controller and we can still control him, he leaves on his own, then he can come BACK because we're still controlling him and Kris's dialogue options at the same time.
Why can't we have him fuck Noelle instead?
>>715086541>is this the fucking knight?>"the roaring knight appeared">black knife starts playing>mfw
>>715086959Black Shard is the Knight's weapon.
>>715086959the common theory is that he somehow managed to get an actual Black Shard, i.e. a chip of the knight's sword
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>>715086645Do people really think this is the kind of guy who would have piercings? Everything about him screams "my mom dresses me".
>>715086768Checks out, ch.5 dark world will be toy themed. And i dread to see the outcome of it
>>715086959The BlackShard's a part of the Knight's weapon, so maybe Asgore found a cut-off piece of Dess's knife and put that in the center of his private investigation into where the fuck Dess disappeared off to.
>>715087058Why is Kris just Frisk?
>>715087042No, it's a little piece of the Knight's weapon that Susie breaks off, along with a shadow crystal.
>>715086098How can you not fix him?
>>715087082>gripping his dick tightly in anticipation seeing Susie use his knifeWhy is he like this?
>>715086954Did either of those have a focus on the idea of what inanimate objects would feel about us if they were alive?
>>715087058Elnina looks hot.
>>715087082yeah kris is the quiet autist who wears the same outfit every day literally me
>>715086541>are we doing the Knight alre-ARE THOSE FUCKING ANTLERS?
>>715087082Hm, I could see Kris getting like at least one piercing if Toriel wouldnโt pull the ultimate guilt trip if she saw it
>>715087231We will meet our desire.
For me, it's Krusie
I really hope the Knight isn't Dess because I want to see everyone who's made all the fanart and fanfiction of KnightDess and Asriel getting hanky get shattered when its revealed to be literally anyone else. Oh the fallout will be so juicy
>>715086959It's probably the black katana he's fucking standing in front of while saying that but everybody's already decided that Asgore somehow soloed the Knight
>>715087007>kills kris>nobody can tell the difference between them so he takes his place>pounds susie in kris's room immediately upon exiting the dark world because hes more aligned to our interests than kris
>>715087194I think making like any recruit LOST, even if you have recruited the shadowguys and pippins causes no one to help Susie fix him
>>715086959>The question is: was he looking at a shadow crystal of his own, or at Carol's katana?I don't think we know. But well done on considering the second possibility because most people seemed to have failed to consider that.
>>715087194On my first run on Snowgrave I was attacking everything to see the result. It's so fucking stupid that there's no benefit to not recruiting everyone.
Unless you were asking how, in which case just don't recruit the Pippins and Shadowguys. They're the ones that help Susie find his parts.
Reminder that the Forgotten Man is literally a fucking guy who lives in Hometown, who you can catch a glimpse of each subsequent day. He is a man in Hometown who drives a car and eats lunch at the diner. And it's just that nobody who hasn't stored his eggs can remember him after interacting with him.
This gives him absurd "plot hole filler" capabilities. There is straight up an agent in the light world who can act on the light world with nobody detecting or noticing his actions.
>>715087231Games are supposed to be fun
>>715087007Because he is us. Did you not see the intro to the game, where the first frame is the SOUL, and then it turns into the mini-Kris? Mini Kris is just a manifestation of the SOUL with a knife
>>715087007Did you not see the soul appear when the game loads in?
>>715087007We know different controllers correspond to different characters. So I think the OddController corresponds to the SOUL rather than Kris, which is why every time we start a new level we see the SOUL onscreen before the game loads in.
>>715087284He would've wanted piercings when he was still a kid and Dess was around, but now he is too apathetic to get one.
How bad will Kris get cucked in ch5?
>Fav character
>gets shit on all the time in both games
>chapter 5 will most likely revolve around him if Gersons dialogue is true ("the field of pink and gold the vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy")
My glorious king, you will have your moment. I know it.
>>715087231To create a new future.
>>715087416I wouldn't be surprised if Wing Dings Gaster has his own vessel in the Light World just as (We) were supposed to, in order to keep tabs on the Player, and that he was the man who Kris saw at the bunker. Take into account, I'm pretty sure Gaster is the only character in the UT/DR universe who is described with the noun 'man'. Everyone else is referred to as otherwise, even if they're male, but never with the word 'man'. The 'man' who speaks in hands.
>>715087416>A forgotten wizard did it
>>715087378>>715087415Wew, I never knew this. Not recruiting everyone has severe consequences apparently. Good thing I always take care to do it.
On that note, I was just reminded of having grinded out 25 shadowguys the first time I got out of the green room because I was afraid I might not have a chance to do it later and might not be able to save for another hour because "you missed out: the game" was the title of the chapter up until that point (I had to redo all the boards).
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>>715086645>>715087082That Susie is pretty good for a grunge style, but yeah, the Kris is horrible with that piercing. I really like the weird/monstrous Susies as long as they don't give her weird fucking hair on her arms and face.
>>715087374Frisky the STRONG.
>>715087597I'm pretty sure Kris won't get cucked because he wouldn't really care that much if it happened. He is already trying to push people away.
>>715087597If that happens, then Kris can always ride with me
>King never actually saw the knight himself, he just bought into Jevil's (resident clown schizophrenic in jail) hype
Based retard
>>715087695I was about to say that Susie is not doing grunge style intentionally, but then I remembered ripped jeans.
>>715087231Total. Doe. Breeding
>>715087769But doesn't Seam say a strange knight appeared? What's that about, then?
>>715087769King would be the one getting hyped over Burngrave, and Papyrus Knight theories
>>715086959>why people think that he will be the next schitzobossConsensus seems to be more that he'll be the next main boss
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>>715087815He does, but he's the one that had to lock Jevil away. King never met the Knight.
>>715087663River Person also mentions "Beware the man who came from other world", which people *assume* refers to Sans.
>>715087694>Not recruiting everyone has severe consequences apparentlyI think not recruiting every darkner is fine to an extent, it's just actually attacking darkners that can fuck things up for Tenna and Jackenstein.
>>715086430>tfw it's gonna take 4 more years until we can fully understand this cryptic bullshitI CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER
>>715087597nothing that could theoretically cuck kris could be worse than noelle getting cucked out of her personal kris concerts
the concerts just for me became concerts just for susie
>>715087414After further thinking, I think that both options are flawed.
>shadow crystalI doubt Toby would use evasive language like that that also happens to refer to an existing item.
>Carol's katanaI think that it would be strange for him to admire a her sword in that scene's context.
>>715087619His time will come, Asgorebro. We can all feel it.
It's still really weird that he doesn't try to talk to Susie.
>>715087723it's implied in an unused cutscene that kris has a crush on soos
>>715087903And we can wager that Sans has a direct connection to Gaster in some form.
>>715087963Nah, you have to recruit all of them for Tenna and Jack to survive.
This only applies to actual recruitable enemies though, everyone else can be (and most times should be) slaughtered.
>>715087597This shit is just bringing back old emotions in me, I really hope he doesn't do this.
>>715086430he's just toby's selfinsert
Reminder that at the end of the day, HE wins.
>>715087963Going full pacifist was the right choice. It would also suck to have an empty castle town
>>715087903also the river reappears with the same sfx in the friend scene at the start of ch. 3
>>715088000>Do NOT speak to Onion-San (to trigger Chapter 4 lake event)what is this talking about
if it means Susie talking about the song from the sea, she does that regardless of onion
>>715087597> * I thought if I said something different> * If we did something different> * If we were just kind enough> * Perhaps by the time we got here... it would change.> * But... but no matter what we do...> * Our fate...> * ... is already decided.
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>>715086541I closed my eyes and smiled.
I have fully bought into the theory that Kris and Carol are trying to use Susie for the sacrifice in place of Noelle.
He's going to do something in chapter 5, bros... I can feel it...
FRIENDSCHIZOS WE ARE GONNA BE EATIN GOOD SOON
>>715088029>in an unused cutsceneWait, where?
>>715086541a bat AND antlers?
>>715088141https://youtu.be/K-kr7wL7nUg
>>715088000I love the idea behind this guide but what the fuck did they mean by this? To be it's clear
>If you play toois the right choice.
>>715088086But a default Chapter 4 save starts with Tenna alive, and that doesn't have every Chapter 3 three enemy recruited.
Same for Jackenstein, the game's not gonna kill him because you missed out on Miss Mizzle for example
>>715088209The aura farming competition
>>715088196iirc susie will attempt to skip rocks on no onion saves at the lake
kris laughs at her attempt, one of the extremely rare times we see him actually emoting
when i close my eyes, I'm always thinking about Noelle.
>>715088141I genuinely hope we get a chapter that's all him, like we get for other characters.
Give me an entire chapter to get to know this nigga better.
Cuz if Gaster is one of Toby's weaker characters, I'm gonna kill myself.
And I hope that he has a sense of humor. It'd be weird if he's super serious mad scientist when Sans and Papyrus both have their goofiness.
Press Ctrl + Shift + Esc
Maximize the task manager window
Cum on your screen
There, you had sex with Tasque Manager.
>>715088209The game. Unlike you.
>>715088250>that gifCHRIST, ANON
>>715088396That's because it's a default file, they're different.
>Same for Jackenstein, the game's not gonna kill him because you missed out on Miss Mizzle for exampleIt will if you're continuing your save data.
>>715088181It's the River Nyx.
What would you like to see in Chapter 5?
Personally, total meltdown of everyone
>>715088381They're giving it to "I'll play someday" because only that line causes Susie to make "that face", the one where she gently touched Kris's shoulder and said "let's go back there tomorrow, okay"
It only shows up 1-2 times each chapter and this is one possible time
>>715088339https://youtu.be/qDsBG1QG2FQ
>>715087769>this was enough for him to turn the entire card castle black to match the Knight's aesthetic INSANE levels of dickriding
>>715087508Mmh...Asriel was the one using the shitty controller when him and Kris were kids...
>>715088086IIRC I think you only need to have the pippins and shadowguys
>>715088227I also smile thinking of winners.
>>715088381telling susie that kris will play again gets a second susie smile in ch4, but she doesn't do that if you pick 'play together'
it's a difficult choice
>>715088516Asriel Dreemurr or Papyrus as the secret boss
>>715088250Shame about those pesky emotions starting to get in the way.
>>715088516I want shit to go south of the border
>>715088516Same. the chapter needs to be a turning point no character can come back from.
>>715088516Flowers based on the dead kiddos.
>>715086541>Okay, I doubt you're meant to win the fight here, but so far it's not so bad-IS THAT THE FUCKING SANS ATTACK AIEEEEEE
>>715088250Why though? Kris being used as sacrifice makes much more sense.
>depressed and suicidal so he is offered a chance to make his death meaningful>Snowgrave has us making Noelle desensitized to murder>Ralsei hoped that Susie becoming kind will change the prophecy>Knight is trying to lure Noelle back into Prophecy in chapter 2>Susie gets over the initial shock of discovering the final Prophecy too quickly - she may have gotten suspicious of Kris if it was about Kris killing her, but if it's the other way around, she can just brush it off - "I'm not going to kill him, right?"
>>715088440Gaster has been a literal decade in the making. Toby cannot fuck this character up. He needs to be given way more of a spotlight and more influence over the plot, otherwise its all for nothing.
>>715088516Seam optional boss fight before he agrees to create the Pure Crystal.
>>715088492>That's because it's a default file, they're different.Thats true, fair nuff.
>It will if you're continuing your save data.I would check that but that would involve playing 3&4 all over again so i'll take your word for it
>>715088516If it's true that chapter 5 was supposed to come with 3 and 4, then I assume it's the end of the 2nd act, so I expect the cliffhanger to end all cliffhangers.
My theory? The roaring starts. Everyone in town runs to the shelter.
>>715087231Seal the fountains, Kill the Knight, Stop the Roaring.
>>715088440>I hope he has a sense of humorRemember the part of the vessel maker where it's the same pants 5 times and then the pants flipped around once?
Or that fuck ass cut
>>715088516Kris gender reveal party.
>>715088538>>715088595You are right, I just checked the scene again. Well which one is the correct choice then god damn it. I thought teaching Susie piano was an extremely cute prospect.
>>715088000Holy shit, the dedication. I kneel.
>>715086541>see tenna dialogue about how the roaring knight told him the plan>"ah ok so i guess the knight really was kris since he was the only one home" >
>>715089000I sat at that decision longer than anything else in the game and ultimately chose "if you play too". I think both options are sweet
>>715087231To impregnate the Doe
>>715088910>Festival starts>Shit goes south with Susie and Noelle, Susie manages to find the code or something>Kris krashes out and rips us out for some reason>He starts the Roaring>In the chaos, the Soul and Kris end up separated>Gaster drops in a care package with our Vessel in the shelter
>>715087231Impregnate the Dinosaur The Doe The Bird The Goat and The [original] Starwalker
>>715086541The buildup to
>*The Knight Appearedwith that fucking music kicking in convinced me that Toby is finally going to be the one who dethrones
>The boundary to another dimension is coming undone...>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDebB9PmIlo>The indescribable god has awakened!As the single fucking hypest music cue in any turn-based game ever made. He's already gotten so close, and we're only halfway in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtuDEM3Cqm0
Is Snowgrave worth playing? I got spoiled on a lot of the story stuff like the doe rape scene
>>715088000I need one of this but for the Doe
>>715089098Yes, both are cute.
For me the first thing that came to my mind after her story even before the prompt was
>let's play togetherso I was glad to see it as an option too
Cliffhanger for ch5: we see Frisk ENTER
>>715089427>The flowers somehow are connected to undertale and reveal the form of Frisk
Why is blue Gaster Follower NPC so concerned with us not reading the books at the top of the library? What could we possibly learn that would endanger things,
And furthermore, what would it matter to hide that information from us? We are atemporal information gatherers. Hypothetically we can restart an earlier chapter after learning from a later one; this is kinda acknowledged in ch4 by banging out the piano prophecies before we find both pieces.
>>715089413If you're not really interested in it, at least wait for chapter 5.
>>715089290>Awesome song makes me want to try out the game it's from>Third in the seriesThis is always a conundrum for me. How important is it to play the first two?
>>715087231Bring order to chaos
>>715081642You know I never thought about it that what would happen if we sealed the original dark fountain in Castle town?
How's Noelle going to take it when Susie tells her Kris played the piano in front of her?
>>715087597Noelle will ride with me. Susie will get cucked.
How do Tenna and Spamton even know each other?
>Spamton is from Chapter 2, which takes place in the computer lab at the librarby
>Tenna is Kris's family TV
How did they even make contact when dark worlds are supposed to be separate?
>>715089413Chapter 2 is much faster but it's also the only chapter where there's a worthwhile amount of diverging content. Chapter 3 is a chore to replay when there's almost no differences, especially with how many good items in chapter 2 you're locked out of on Snowgrave like the Dealmaker, Chainmail, and Tension Bow.
>>715089583Etrian Odyssey's story is a complete excuse plot. If you're playing EO1/2 you're doing it for pure gameplay, because the games are all "create your own party" dungeon crawlers outside of the "Untold" remakes on 3DS.
>>715088784>depressed and suicidal so he is offered a chance to make his death meaningfulpeople exaggerate how depressed kris is. I don't think he's suicidal, at least not yet. and he still has people he loves.
>Snowgrave has us making Noelle desensitized to murderI don't really see what this has to do with anything
>Ralsei hoped that Susie becoming kind will change the prophecyRalse wants the whole group to be kind, not just susie
>Knight is trying to lure Noelle back into Prophecy in chapter 2What makes you think that? If anything it could just be an accident that she got dragged into the dark world
>Susie gets over the initial shock of discovering the final Prophecy too quickly - she may have gotten suspicious of Kris if it was about Kris killing her, but if it's the other way around, she can just brush it off - "I'm not going to kill him, right?"Susie would never suspect her friends like that. She isn't aware Kris' sneaky behavior at all. Also the prophecy probably wasn't specific enough to mention anyone by name.
I also think it's much more likely that the final line of the prophecy specifies "the girl" dying than the human. I don't really see why Kris would have to be so sneaky if he was the one who was going to die.
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https://youtu.be/3LMmXO01F7s?si=HPEtqIygH7TiKoUW
never realized how creepy this sounds at high volume
>>715089583not that anon but I've played IV, V, and Nexus and they had very little to do with one another
>>715089779I takea da laptop to my house.
Also Ramb is from the Library
>>715087231Sex with the Girl
>>715089779I forget if it was Tenna or one of the random NPCs, but someone talked about how Kris would take laptops from the school home to play around with on the couch.
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>>715089881Dess is a human, feet theory btfo's this
>>715089779Play the Sword Route.
>>715087231Our end goal is the Deltarune, which is the friends we made along the way.
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>>715086541Audibly yelled at "there's the bastard".
Didn't fully realize that was the knight till it actually roared. It was an immediate call for violence. I went from laying back to instantly locking in
>>715089750>Noelle gets cucked out of both Kris and SusieI like how things are going.
>>715086230he looks like a heavily malnourished conan the barbarian and it fucking works
>>715081642Ralsei is actually Toriel, that's why she was asleep the entire time in the Dark World
>>715089847Thanks anon that's all I needed to know, I'll jump straight into 3 to experience kino. If I like the gameplay enough, I'm sure I won't mind going to older, less refined versions to get a little more out of it.
>>715089750Says "I guess I should be happy for Susie"
while looking for gas can and matches in the garage
>>715089779Same way King and Queen know each other, Kris and Noelle took the playing cards and laptop home to play with together. Spamton started as a generic TV infomercial salesman before hopping onto the Internet.
>>715090102>Turns out the femboy was always a girlHow do you even call that, a triple trap?
>>715090175That's just regular reverse trap.
>Actual chapter 5 cliffhanger
I don't know what Asriel will be up to but he's going to be really important one way or another.
>Cat Dad says Asriel will become "a big shot" at college, hopes he will remember the rest of them (Don't Forget lul)
>Asriel probably wears glasses based on Susie thinking the fridge picture was Azzy
>Spamton glasses item is the "Dealmakers"
>Spamtom fight item is for Ralsei and is a scarf of guitar strings
>Asriel is figuratively tethered to Hometown by Dess, who is represented by guitar strings
>Even as Spamton NEO, Spamton was held by the strings
>Asriel played with the knockoff controller so his little sibling wouldn't have to
>The knockoff controller has FRIEND's color scheme
Asriel possibly made a deal with FRIEND. Or at least did something analogous to that.
We see other Darkners like Queen take on aspects of Lightners. Spamton, bizarrely, acts like a confidant toward Kris. He tells Kris to come ALONE and Kris, for some reason, obeys, both at the junk yard and in the basement. Spamton promises to "pass my savings onto you" if Kris helps Spamton become NEO. Spamton also tells Kris "we don't need friends!" I think one element of Spamton, at least, is actually Asriel.
Also, I don't know what to do with this piece of information but,
>Seam is Asriel's desktop background
>>715090102I was going to belittle you but knowing Toby Fox this might be true
>>715090138Have fun, anon.
If you play the PC remakes, make sure you get the mod that fixes the dogshit font the ENG HD version has.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602
I had a bad idea, if Spamton Neo represents a boss fight we got robbed from in UT, does that mean we'd have the "what if you fought Asgore in genocide" boss fight in DR?
Okay, but what the fuck is the deal with FRIEND? It's implied he drove Jevil and Spamton crazy. It's implied he is behind Dess's disappearance. He is implied to be Mike. He shows up in Susie's room dark world. He shows up at the church. He shows up when you fight ERAM. He shows up before you fight Spamton.
Did Noelle just accidentally summon a cat demon from modding Cat Petterz 2 too much? Was it Kris and Catti when they tried to summon a demon?
>>715089994how do you know those shoes aren't also made for hooves?
>>715086541>"B-B-but we are only at chapter 3!"
>>715090360Buckle up, shits gonna get fucked
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Toby really said ''knight to C3'' and put the casual filter at the early end of the game
>>715090313>CHECK: He wants to make a deal, but don't give him your MONEY!>You can take $5 from Azzy's desk drawer
>>715090360It's very likely we might have a six SOULs (Flowers) Asgore fight, yeah.
>>715090413I don't think there's a single FRIEND, I think Seam is the main entity and uses FRIENDs to do his bidding, after coming into contact with the Knight's Shadow Crystal that Jevil got. ERAM is the Seam on the computer wallpaper, explaining their connection.
>>715090631>Seam is the main entityNever trusted that Irish bastard anyway.
>>715079948 (OP)was he even around on ch4?
i could only find his statue
>>715090436I... I don't! F-FUCK!
>>715090714he (apparently) shows up as part of the stack of cups/recruits to save jackenstein if you recruited everyone
>>715090561>>715090413WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE THE DOG AMALGAMATE?
WHATS THE CONNECTION?
>>715090714I think he was among other Darkners when they were making a tower to save Jackenstein.
>>715090360It's either a not holding back Asgore fight or a Flower form Flowey fight
>>715090360i thought this was fem pyro ass. chat am i cooked?
>>715090413seriously why the fuck is he endogyny
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>>715089994>theres like 50 of the same shoe so tobys probably trying to draw attention to it (looks like that one light puzzle in the cyber world)>could also just be a legitimate mistake (same nigga literally forgot that fighting shit had a different ending in chapter 1)>also alarm clock dialoge by asgore stating rudy had two daughters in undertale im pretty iffy on this one, would also take away from the whole "kris is the only human in hometown and feels like an outcast because of it" shit
>>715090815Toby was lazy and recycled an asset.
>>715090556Casuals have been filtered by shadow crystal schizo content since Jevil
>>715089994check text says the shoes are meant for hooves
your logic is flawed
>>715090815amalgamate of discarded cats from noelle's game
>>715086645Normal Faggots are waking up!!
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>>715090815Deltarune is Post-Scratch Undertale (or other way around)
Anyway, Dog got replaced by Cat
>>715090413There is also the "Humble Servant" stuff. And that he might be the "Friend with a creepy smile" that shows up in one of Undertale's unaccessible rooms (though you could make the argument it's Gaster/Chara/Flower, but I'm leaning towards into it actually being Friend).
>>715090815Because he's a shadow of darkness. It's like how you can only see the shadow of a Shadow Crystal.
The other anon is definitely right that FRIEND has multiple "bodies" going around as we can see in the ERAM fight. We know the shadow crystal of ch2 was inside the NEO body, not something Spamton generated. So the FRIEND face we saw there may have been coveting it, or had already planted it, watching for the sweet chaos, Chaos!
But one more thing worth noting is FRIEND has one less appendage than Endogeny. The result is that FRIEND resembles a hand, possibly connecting it to all the Kris hand stuff. But also, making it possible the entity referred to in BIG SHOT. The one who "pulls the strings and makes them ring".
>>715087058why are King spamton and Jevil edgy n evil???? they're allready monsterous in the base game why did you need too make them edgy n evil they're fucking evil!!!!!!
>>715088440>And I hope that he has a sense of humor. It'd be weird if he's super serious mad scientist when Sans and Papyrus both have their goofiness.It could go either way, Sans and Papyrus could both have "defective" personalities strictly as a result of gaster getting so fucked up doing whatever shit he was doing.
Then again he's likely open to trolling since he loves passing random comments on shit during character creation
>>715087597I'm bracing myself for this shit. I don't know if I'll sigh and groan like every other time or just turn the game off and youtube the rest of it.
Suselle is such a drag.
>>715091104Some people doubt the hand thing, but look up how it looks for a pianist to put their five fingers on the keys by Middle C on a piano. The thumb swings up to the side like the rightmost (our pov) appendage on FRIEND.
>>715091159>>715090909I'm just saying I would be more accepting of stupid retarded theories if they were backed by really cute art.
>>715090815He's just theorybait.
Reminder Kris wishes they had a dog monster body, not a goat.
>>715090940Not those, just the ones she had in her room.
Noelle is in a sports club with jockington but doesnt have any human-hoof shoes in her room
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>this is your fandom
>>715091350i also wish to racemix with and be molested by dess
>kris slashes his friends for brown pussy
>>715086557Susie goes back to get it inside the closet before entering your dark fountain
>>715091362this isn't FNAF, Toby is autistic enough to actually have real answers
Seam's role is pretty obvious if you replay chapter 1 with our current knowledge.
>Was Jevil's best FRIEND
>Was powerful enough that he could seal away Jevil after the latter went schizo from the Shadow Crystal
>In doing so, came into contact with the Shadow Crystal and is now jaded over fate as a result
>Knows that he's talking to us the player
>Ralsei describes us as being capable of changing fate
>Despite being just a random shopkeeper early in chapter 1, is important enough that he's retained his role as our Shadow Crystal contact the entire game
All of the schizo boss stuff and FRIEND is Seam trying to test us to see if we can in fact change fate enough.
>>715090940>>715089994>>715090909>>715091159>>715091350you guys just wanna worship tomboy feet or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhVfjqKbqw&pp=ygUUc2FucyBjYXNpbm8gZGlhbG9ndWU%3D
sans casino dialogue destroys the human dess theory
>>715088516>The full design of Dess, either before she disappeared or underneath the Knight form.>That striped bird to get the fuck out of the library.>Onion returning.>What happens to Tenna if we keep him in Castle Town.>For us to jettison Sans into the Undertale timeline, out of Toriel's panties, and for Asgore and Gaster to witness this as both insurance and a warning respectively.
>>715091434Nope, he just feels like a dog because he's on the leash.