Thread 715085494

>live service game gets more popular over time
how?

it literally just came out

streamerman plays it
the only way games get popular these days is if streamers play them, an entire generation is enslaved to parasocial relationships with funny scream at videogame men

>>715085494 (OP)
>steam
Isn't this mobileshit?

>>715086006
Devs figured out you can get a modest amount of extra money by just exporting the unity project for PC and shoving it onto steam. The biggest benefit is that you're constantly advertising your game for free through people's friends lists.

>>715085671
So did Persona 5X and that's already crashing down

>>715085671
retard
the peak is usually reached on the first few days, this is already past its second week

>>715086163
what took them so long?

>>715086293
>Good game vs bad game

>>715086493
I don't listen to fatherless children. Your dad was right to leave.

>>715085494 (OP)
It's a combination of streamers sustaining it and the honeymoon period.
>Dailies take a long time
>Using up all your energy takes even longer
>Only a small amount of recurring income can be obtained so you need handouts
>Need to roll for the support cards over new uma
>New uma aren't even all that interesting because
>It's all just RNG and it gets boring after a while, especially when combined with multiple of the above
>Kitasan is probably gonna damage the playerbase because people will roll instead of just borrowing a MLB Kitasan support card

>>715085494 (OP)

https://x.com/Nikolini_/status/1941586128718442542

>>715085494 (OP)
What game is this?

>>715088743
Blue Archive

>>715085494 (OP)
cause it's fun

>>715088907
let's see if you keep saying that after Kitasan lol

>>715087412
And your Mom was wrong to adopt.

>>715085494 (OP)
ANOTHER STEAM CHART THREAD AAAAAAAA

>>715087431
This, honestly Uma will get boring real fast. It's super grindy, and super repetitive. They can "release" new scenarios but after you play them once in like 1 hour, it's the same thing.

What you play for, races, never really changes and it's all automated. Successful live service relies on keeping things fresh and/or involvement with other players. Uma has neither which is why even in Japan its popularity cratered compared to release hype.

>>715089004
>let's see if you keep up after you power up all your decks and have more abilities!
yeah sure

This board criticizes big games for the tiniest things then talk about mobile gacha games

What is wrong with you

>>715089273
Fags here can't afford big games on the regular. They can afford free to play gachas.

This is how you realize that most of the conversation comes from retards who have never even played the games they are talking about and just regurgitate things they've seen on youtube

>>715089118
yup
There is a reason why nips prefer Blue Archive

>>715089273
Thirdies can't afford or play modern games on their systems

>>715085494 (OP)
Streamers, there is no actual gameplay.

>>715089118
>Successful live service relies on keeping things fresh
I do not mind things being stale because I ultimately like the RNG elements, it keeps it (somewhat) fresh and interesting each time. My big problem is the amount of time it takes to use up my stamina. I dropped Limbus because I wasn't dealing with the MD mines anymore now imagine at least 1 MDN having to be done each day just to complete the dailies. Add to that another 3 or 4 to fully use up all your energy and I'm looking at a part-time job. If you could sweep I'd still be playing.

>>715087431
>>715089118
>>715089587
>>715089957
This is a samefag trying to boost his favorite game with lies by the way. Blue Archive tumbled down the ranking at some point and they are kind of desperate.

dead in 2 weeks

>>715089579
>This is how you realize that most of the conversation comes from retards who have never even played the games they are talking about and just regurgitate things they've seen on youtube
I realized most people here didn't play the games they talked about when I saw someone claim that quest loot outleveled dungeon loot in Oblivion.

>>715090996
you said that 2 weeks ago

>>715090782
What of what I said >>715087431 was lies? Please tell me, I'm dying to hear.

>>715091140
no I didnt because global wasnt out 2 weeks ago

ban all steam charts threads

>>715091170
All of it. Hope this helps.

>>715091196
>global wasnt out 2 weeks ago
????????????

>>715089587
>Astroturfed piece of shit

>>715091562
What seems to be the problem? It looks like Blue Archive just got a few mail-in voters at July 8

>>715091562
>4 year old global vs new global

lol ok
it's actually impressive that BA can peak at 22k

>>715091508
man time passes fast

>>715091695
Funny to see you BAfags have to backtrack after gloating for so long. Couldn't beat Persona and couldn't beat Uma. Uma is the most with actual organic popularity

>>715091892
>organic popularity
>paid streamers

>>715091968
BA pays fan artists, and all I'm saying is in every available metric we can see that Umas popular, players, stream numbers, sales. But for BA you can only see it in the fanart, that's weird

>>715091892
Is it really so surprising that BA would have a lower player count? You can finish dailies really quickly in BA whilst you need to spend quite a lot of time on Uma. That's not to detract from Uma hitting it big but the difference in time commitment is massive.

>>715092423
>Well you see people just don't actually play BA
Using that as a cope after saying how KINO the story is and how much of a good waifu game it is is crazy. All you fags have hundreds of unread momotalks whenever you post a screenshot, you just don't play the game because what you really like is just the fanart/porn

>>715092601
I made absolutely no mention of the story, nor have I said anything about waifus. It's fine if you don't like it. You do not need to create narratives that are formed through straw men. It's also fine if others like things you don't, anon.

Poor BA fags

>>715092902
>love and deepspace
>pokemon TCG
Always amusing to see these there. All these other gachas get shilled left and right on 4ch but those 2 are just chugging along and doing well.

>>715092897
I just don't like astroturfed pieces of shit.
>>715092902
>lost to brown dust 2 and ALMOST lost to infinity Nikki
LMAO

>>715092902
Where's Persona 5X

>>715092902
>Even Azur Lane, a game no one talks about anymore, is doing better than BA
What the fuck happened???

>>715093582
at the bottom

>>715093586
BA is astroturfed, the game is organically popular. It's why in ANY public metric that isn't fanart BA flops.

>>715094221
why aren't people laughing at it more then
it's using an AAA popular IP and looks way more polished and western friendly

>>715093582
>>715094395
read the date, imbeciles. I even marked with a big fucking line so retards like you wouldn't struggle

>>715092902
>>715093484
>>715093586
>>715094237
Very organic chart you have there sis.

>>715094608
You know P5X Global released in June and has been released in China for a long while now, right? Cope

>>715093586
AL kept alive by tits

>>715087431
>Kitasan is probably gonna damage the playerbase
The opposite actually because a lot of people are saving for her, her banner is a 10 pull, meaning you get other SRs and SSRs along with it, you are not rolling only for her or nothing.
This will boost the power of most accounts allowing more of the community to participate in more PvP events, also you only need 1 Kitasan card because the upcoming events will allow you to max 1 SSR card of your choice.

>>715095816
Unf. Regardless, stopped playing this game ages ago and this doesn't make me wanna go back since I got the impression I've seen everything the game has to offer after hitting lv 100.

>>715085494 (OP)
>live service game gets more popular over time

>>715091968
>paid streamers
Streamers put #AD in their titles when they get paid, sorry but you are wrong on this one.

>>715085494 (OP)
nigga let's see the retention in one month, you fucking retarded bitch

>>715085494 (OP)
Rust

>>715097828
>in one month
Why not now? Persona and Blue Archive are already way down.

>>715085494 (OP)
Dead By Daylight

>>715097734
gay

>>715093337
PTCGP was very popular in the first month on /v/, and it probably has a /vp/ general still. I like it.

>>715085494 (OP)
Path of Exile

>>715097767
unsurprising

>>715097901
>>715097997
redpill me on these

>>715085494 (OP)
GTA V

>>715091968
its literally fraud and a crime to not state you're sponsored on sites like twitch, none of these fags are risking a mandatory ban and potential lawsuit for not putting a single #AD in their title when taking sponsor money
is it really so hard to believe people are doing it to just ride a bandwagon rather than being paid? not every fag with a gopro streaming pokemon go was sponsored either, not every trend is astroturfed

Even the twitch drops are for the fucking 3rd anniversary of the taiwanese server and only claimable if you live there lol

>>715093337
/v/ doesn't play Pokemon Pocket at all, it's all on /vp/

>>715098324
appears to be in decline though

>>715085494 (OP)
Stardew Valley

>>715092902
>>715093586
>BA
>That was called once the "FGO killer" and "the next touhou"
>Now is below brown dust 2, some shitty fetish game
Embarrassing

>>715085494 (OP)
I want to play it because a weeb version of Teletrak sounds so funny

>>715085494 (OP)
Stardew Valley

>>715097990
It's probably because the honeymoon phase. I've quit games because I end up hitting the wall and seen just how horribly grindy things become.

>>715085494 (OP)
Team Fortress 2

>>715085494 (OP)
War Thunder

>>715098582
What happened in 2024?

>>715085494 (OP)
Crosshair X

>>715098085
More like not horny and lonely enough to be manipulated by these.. pngs

This Uma vs BA fight has to be one of the most pathetic fanbase wars I've seen.

>>715085494 (OP)
They combined raising mechanics, deckbuilding, roguelike, and the "I must make my charge/daughter/bestie better and achieve her dreams!" all in one.
Im honestly not surprised it caught on for more than its surface level appeal in the west

>>715085494 (OP)
Delta Force

>>715093337
LADS is fuelled entirely by chink femcels afaik

>>715098901
>pngs
they are 3D now though

>>715085494 (OP)
7 Days To Die

>>715085494 (OP)
Day Z

>>715095816
>>715099173
>Nigger asses
*Puke*

>>715099173
OK but is the gameplay still the same?

>>715099418
>The Irishman returns

>>715085494 (OP)
Warframe

>>715099008
It's manufactured by alphabet people.

>>715098820
1.6 patch, says it right there

>>715085494 (OP)
Red Dead Redemption II

>>715097776
>you think people would go on the internet and tell lies?
retard

>>715085494 (OP)
Sims 4

>>715100031
lmao this nigga got brainbroke so hard

>>715085494 (OP)
Hearts of Iron IV

>>715085494 (OP)
Geometry Dash

Japan hired jeets and e-celebs to shill this because they're desperate to make a successful gacha and stop being mogged by Korea and China.

>>715085494 (OP)
Euro Truck Simulator

>>715085494 (OP)
Terraria

>>715093337
i don't know a single woman gamer that hasn't tried love and gayspace
and pokemon will make profit even if they sell literal shit (also there's no pity system there like in the rest of gachas)

>>715092902
its 90% gachashit...holy christ, gaming is completely fucked

>>715085494 (OP)
Rim World

>>715099329
i reinstalled this shit like 7 times across the years hoping it would get better but i was always disappointed
the only time i had fun was when i got an ESP wallhack to work and could see where everyone was

The Reddit Horse game? Probably all the e-celebs shilling it. No-one who isn't an easily influenced freak would ever pick this slop up, though.

>>715100831
Isn't it just a list of gachashit?

>>715100831
>the gacha list is filled with gachas
are you retarded?

>>715085494 (OP)
Project Zomboid

>>715085494 (OP)
Left 4 Dead 2

>>715089273
>This board criticizes big games for the tiniest things

Like what?

>>715085494 (OP)
Naraka: Bladepoint

>>715101160
I'm gonna have to interrupt you for a moment anon as OP said live service and a lot of your games aren't. Regardless, I'm sure OP got the point by now.

>>715085494 (OP)
Skyrim

>>715101489
I have to stop anyways. Steamdb has a limit to how often you can look at its charts. Which games are not live service games?

>>715098206
this looks like a seismograph

>>715100850
and this looks like an electrocardiogram

>>715101837
that's because poefags are addicts

>>715085494 (OP)
Dead cat bounce.

>>715101154
most anti-gacha crusaders are, until they find out some gachas are actually fun and not really a casino simulator like they thought
like a dunning kruger epiphany

>>715085494 (OP)
Psyop

>>715102269
if they were good games they wouldn't need to be gacha in the first place, you fucking retard

>>715085494 (OP)
With this game specifically, it received a streamer boost from July 2nd onward. From its launch it was hovering around 20k players, but then streamers found out about it which caused a chain reaction of other streamers jumping on it, now with their viewers trying the game.

>>715101713
>we think your post is spam
Guess I'll just point to the ones that are live service
>>715099565
>>715098786
Idk if I would consider cs2, tf2, and such ilk to be live service since people can just host their own lobbies, right?

>50k on a free game is good now
kek

>>715100831
Man. You must have broken your parents' heart so bad

>>715102465
just out of curiosity, do you even know what that word means? what's your definition of gacha?

Its crazy how much Uma Musume makes chinks and gooks seethe.

>>715102854
the only ones seething are these fags who think this game is a huge hit on steam

>>715102465
Anon..
F2p with mtx (gacha in this case) is an attempt to milk the retards with poor impulse control. It can be a good game but usually become a shit game due to monetization because the monetization usually fucks with progression by making it extremely grindy and time-consuming or making it really inconvenient to play the game. Shit has been played out for ages in kMMOs

>>715102715
it is when its mobile

>>715102593
Yea, people abused linking a bunch of posts, so you can't do that anymore.

>Counter Strike 2
>Team Fortress 2

I don't think the ability to host private lobbies negates the on-going support the games get from their developers. But if those two games are your only examples of non-live service games, and I'm going to just say you only meant TF2 because Counter Strike 2 is so clearly a live service game, you've only got one example out of 24 total I posted.

>>715102978
Are you a chink or a SEA nigger (same thing but I just want to clarify)?

>>715086493
"Surprise" hits almost always reach their peak in their second week during the week end so it'll probably reach its final peak during this week end (but given that it's a gacha, it will possibly happen during Kitasan Black's banner next friday and then fizzle down).

>>715103095
There's a lot more others that aren't live service like terraria, rimworld, euro truck simulator, project zomboid, and so on. Just didn't want to point to every single one of them. Point is, live service games are games that, if the developer/ publisher decides to stop supporting the game, the game becomes defunct and will no longer work because it requires a host server like MMOs.

>Uma thread turns into a BA seething thread
Why are the shitposters so obsessed to put these two fanbase against each other?
also obligatory ban steamcharts threads

>>715102978
You do realize it is the 31st most played game on Steam right as we speak, right

>>715103462
Terraria has gotten developer support, updates, and content since it launched, just like a live service game would. That it doesn't monetize like a gacha game, doesn't make it a non-live service game.

https://terraria.fandom.com/wiki/PC_version_history

I'll check on the other games, but I'm guessing that more and more players aren't playing games that are years and years old that have not been receiving continuous developer support to ensure players are being serviced.

>>715087412
>gachashit
>"good game"

Why the heck were BA and P5X flopped so fucking badly?

>>715103520
>31st
Damn, that bad, huh?

isnt revenue what matters the most?

>>715103890
BA fags were successful at gatekeeping.

>>>>715085494 (OP)
I like the horse game but it's been psyoppd into popularity by every major streamer playing it because they think it's funny and quirky to play the le epin horse girl anime game. They and their tens of thousands of normie twitch viewers will be quitting the game in a matter of days if they haven't already, and it'll go back down to 3-5k players where it belongs.

>>715103953
>pretending to be retarded cause he has nothing going on in life

>>715103462
The Rimworld developer has a blog going back to 2013. I see updates, patches, what looks like an upcoming expansion. This isn't a game that the developer launched then never touched again. They've been feeding it and its audience month after month, year after year.

https://ludeon.com/blog/

>>715103853
Never mind then. We're seeing things different. You come from the view point where any game that still gets updates is considered live service while I come from the view point where if the dev/publisher decides to stop bothering with the game, it'll cease to function.

>>715103890
99% of BA """fans""" are twitter

it's trendy with ironic weebs atm
it wont last, in japan they like it unironically.

>>715103890
BA has the gigacoomer barrier and P5X is just a shittier version of P5, it’s one thing to play it on your phone it’s quite another to play it on your PC where you have access to the real game.

>>715086293
Persona 5X devs crashed their game via multiple things
1) accelerate global by a hillarious amount, like 3 banners per rotation
2) halving the necessary resources you get from events/promos/etc
so you got 3 times the speed, while getting shafted on free resources, which the chinks got

>>715104243
In what world being the 31st is considered good? Hell it's a fucking free game that's supposed to be the FOTM yet it's not even in the top 30 after only two weeks? Really?

>>715102854
it's because there's actual passion behind it, something they'll never have

>>715103462
Euro Truck Simulator like 14 (expansions?) DLC. It also got a rework of the base game's content to match the quality of the later DLC. It also has a bunch of post-launch Trucks it looks like.

https://truck-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Euro_Truck_Simulator_2

Here's the version history page. I didn't bother to look at it for more than a few seconds.

https://truck-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Euro_Truck_Simulator_2_Version_history

>>715104709
>gacha
>passion
You gachabrains are beyond saving

>>715104510
>game with tens of thousands of games
>NOOO 31 NO GOOD
Enjoy this (You), for it's the last. Hope you kill yourself after you enjoy the fleeting feeling that you are in any way clever or amusing.

>>715103462
Project Zomboid is apparently on "Build 42 unstable". Here's the build history going back to 2013. Much like the other games you mentioned, on-going support from the developer creating a game as a service.

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2017/02/buildstatus/

GABEN YOU FAT FUCK FIX STEAM

>gachafags are the steam chart thread makers
now it all makes sense

>>715104808
this is the first gacha I've touched in ages, unless you pokemon pocket
gacha or not it's still a competent game and you really don't have to pay to enjoy it

>>715104808
I mean, theres a hundred+ page long Google doc documenting all the connections to the actual horses and keiba as a whole. The CEO is a massive keiba otaku and not just in the "haha I like to gamble on horses" kind of way.

>>715104264
>if the dev/publisher decides to stop bothering with the game, it'll cease to function
this is a wildly retarded thing to say

>>715104264
You're thinking about always-online games, not live service games.

>>715105613
and then to show his passion he made a gambling game?

>>715105628
>square pulls the plug on xiv
>game no longer works
It's how it's designed. If cygame pulls the plug on the horse game server, it'll cease to function. Same shit with blue archive.

>>715105395
>you really don't have to pay to enjoy it
If I had a cent for every time I've seen a gachafag say that I'd be a billionaire by now, and it's always a lie

>>715105825
What is Valve pulls the plug on Steam. Will Counter-Strike or Team Fortress 2 still function?

Sorry guys. Our horse game is so popular that releasing a new banner brought Steam down. We'll try to be more conscious of lesser games from here on out.

>>715105756
>gambling game
>easily the most generous gacha Cygames has made to the point that JP whales complain that they arent overpowered enough for whaling
>literally state that there is no gambling in universe
You're just an angry chink, got it.

>>715086293
Game quality aside, the horse people knew exactly what they were getting into. P5X on the other hand, you had a lot of people that don't usually play gachas curious about it to see if maybe it wasn't like every other gacha and when they realized what was going on dropped it

>>715106139
Then why don't they just make an actual game out of it?

>>715089587
>mid archive
aka nikke for pedophiles

>>715105395
Also only started playing it right now but I can see the horizon. The free karat handouts slow down DRASTICALLY after you've played for a while as you start off getting achivements and main-line quests for doing nothing, but once those run out you are probably left with at max like 200-300 a day from daily quests, loggin bonuses and doing daily events. It's the classic "give you so much of it you think it's worthless then stop giving you any" tactic. You can certainly F2P it since I've seen people do that from the JP launch but the handouts will start dissappearing quite soon.

>>715106209
Because it wouldnt last 4+ years? Its the same reason Bombergirl stayed arcade for so long and why Gundam Xtreme VS doesnt get a console port. Being an "actual game" wouldnt change how Uma Musume worked in the slightest since its basically a single player horse raising game to begin with.

>>715106453
You're on 4chan. You're all pedophiles.

>>715106754
speak for yourself faggot

>>715106505
>You can certainly F2P it since I've seen people do that from the JP launch but the handouts will start dissappearing quite soon.
Its quite actually the only gacha that I've played thats been the opposite.
This is my deck. All meta. Havent spent a cent in 4 years. This game also never bombards you with hourly sales, daily promotions, or any of that annoying shit.

>>715092902
>Seven Knights
I have literally never heard of this, is it a chinese thing?

>>715106505
I mean no shit, they gave out like 120 free pulls to start you off with, obviously you're not gonna get that every month
and it doesn't even matter because the main draw is the raising sim and vn aspect
you don't need to perma pull, it's not that kind of game, it's a slow burn

>>715106754
I will concede, but only on the blue archive general and half of /vt/, and I say this as a /vt/ sister.

>>715097767
I'm still mad Gaben stole my achievements.

>>715086006
yes and its making rounds with streamers who usually have nothing to do with gacha shit, thats all. its like a flappy bird effect.

>>715106737
so they knew they couldn't make a good actual game so they made a gacha "game", alright

>>715107760
Gacha has more longevity and, yes, makes more revenue. Who the fuck remembers/still plays your precious Wukong game?

>only 50k atp on launch

Reminder Horsefuckers
LimbusGODS own the steam gacha crowd pay your respects or be buried under our 80k ATP

>>715092902
all of you are cucks

Why do people have such a hate boner for blue archive?

>Bought fanart
>Bought reviews
Not looking good.

>>715108301
why dont you? The games playerbase is 90% pedophiles they've even made it a community joke to "ironically" be one with there "uohhhhhh" shit.
That and Nexon is a scumbag company whos been shitting up the online space since before gachas whre even a thing.

>>715108301
BA fans are very obnoxious and their game is objectively pretty boring

>>715107685
Im pretty sure genshit was way more popular with streamers

>>715108301
Have you not seen how obnoxious the handful of SEA niggers that post here are? Three weeks ago they were claiming that BA was going to dominate Steam, making thread after thread.

>>715108301
>the most obnoxious gacha fanbase out there
>the most narcissistic gacha fanbase out there
>their game is a literal FBI pedophile honeypot

>>715108590
uhhh, that sounds based tho

>>715108590
Then why do I only ever see art of Asuna?
I know nothing about Blue Archive aside from Asuna because she's everywhere for some reason

>>715108301
i can asure you the hate its totally organic and not a handfull of retards spamming because its totally normal that the uma thread somehow brings up BA every thread

>>715099475
TND

>>715109205
Why would the Uma thread care about the inferior game

>>715099173
Worthless till they are removed from their gacha jails

>>715089579
I used to think this board being overrun by broke thirdies was just a meme. No, it's real. We share a board with people who are unironically living in squalor and probably have a bundle of wires hanging in view of the closest window. Man I miss the old internet.

>>715108676
horsegirls is way more popular with vtubers specifically

>>715109754
i dont know you tell me why since there is always a post about it

>>715102593
Huh? TF2 is one of the progenitors of live service games.

>>715108842
It isn't since the game only has TWO actual lolis. Idk why it got a reputation of being a loli game.

nice game bluekeks

>>715092423
The biggest issues BA on steam has is no Web Events, why the fuck would I even log in on steam if I gotta go through my phone/emulator to do what I need in game anyway?

>>715085748
Got to be organic though. NL wasn't sponsored to play it. Did it as a shitpost, it blew up, and others hopped on the trend

>>715099008
You mean /v/ vs /v/ fight, don't kid yourself.

>>715103508
>>715104190
It's BA players being mad that their strategy of being as repellent as possible to gatekeep actually means their game is on the downturn.

>>715109962
I live like that and I do have a bundle of wires hanging in front of my house

Uma may have won the battle, but BA will win the war.

>>715115245
the war of losing...

>monkey still mad
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Funniest thing this year so far was BA cucks daily posting about not being allowed on Steam, and how it had been 61 days or whatever the fuck, whining and complaining like BA was a big deal and NEEDED to be on Steam.

Then it came out and no one played it lmao

>>715085671
Its been out for 4 years, EOP-kun...

>>715085494 (OP)
they paid a lot for streamer exposure. it's just another lame gacha

>>715108301
you seem confuse hating a game with hating a fanbase

>>715117817
No one cares, nigger....

>>715117817
and nobody in the west cared about it because no english version

>>715116497
In 1 year BA will have more players than Uma

>>715089273
what is wrong is we need a gacha board so they can all fuck off

>>715089587
>There is a reason why nips prefer Blue Archive

>>715099446
yes

>>715095816
feet

>>715092423
Wasn't BA is a VN? Did people just press SKIP all the times or something?

>>715094726
BA is censored and flop even harder in China lol

>>715127657
He's the crazy part. We HAVE one.
>>>/vmg/catalog
Why mods don't enforce the rule is beyond me. 80% of "game" discussion on this board has been fucking mobile games like blue archive, master duel and the horse shit for the last few days with a sprinkle of switch 2 ragebait threads, steam charts and SKG/Thor shit.
But no move the /an/ thread to /b/.

If I obtained dlc through creamapi would I "keep/own" it after uninstalling creamapi? Or would I have to keep it installed to continue using said dlc?