Abelard thread

The last patch looks like something that was supposed to come out on day 1, if you are to believe the patch notes, there's a lot of changes. Hopefully it makes the DLC much better and on par with the last one

>>715097368
>came out while I'm in fucking act 5
Fuck you Owlcat
At least I hope the dark heresy news tomorrow are cool

>call for abelard to watch me bathe expecting him to be all fidgety about it like Cassia was
>gives me an autistic lecture about the dynasty's assets

>>715097708
*is cool

>>715097804
Why would you expect a grown ass old man to react like that

>>715097368
the new arbites portraits are unironically really cool

>>715097368
It's already on par with the last one despite waifuniggers seething

>>715097981
All Portraits are cool

>>715098497
As someone who doesn't like Kibellah, no, it's not
In fact, this DLC does what the Last Sarkorians did which is to force you to use the new companion every time you engage with the new DLC content, Void Shadows didn't do that outside of her questline

>>715097123 (OP)
is this game as good as wotr yet

>>715098776
It's been better since it first released

>>715098591
Why the fuck would you not use the DLC characters through their DLC?

>>715097804
>not being the one that leads the lecture causing him to run away
Skill issue.

>With each step, I forge my DESTINY among the STARS!
Is this the coldest line in RT?

>>715098591
As someone who forgets kebooboo even exists half the time - yes, it is. Void shadows has a terrible last part, very badly paced and coming out of nowhere

>Bring Jae along
>"Hey, look, it's the tithe."
>"Can we steal it?"
>"We should steal it."
>"Bet nobody would notice if we stole it."
>"pls let me steal it."
>"You should use your privilege as a Rogue Trader to take the tithe for yourself."
>Later
>"Everything you and your retinue were saying was recorded and shall be used against you in the court of law."
Please tell me the update allows me to shoot Jae in the face for this.

>>715099070
Even if that was true (it isn't) the rest of the DLC is still better, and longer too.

>>715099113
>Bring Jae along
oh no no no no no no no no no no

>>715099113
>nigga brought jae along
>to anything, ever
point and laugh at this nigga

>>715098776
It shits all over Pathfinder unless you have build autism

>>715099113
>expecting actual reactivity from owlkeks
lmao, no

>>715099065
Male pious is the best
They should add more voices tho. They added only one and it has noticeably lower quality

>>715099523
Take a wild guess why

I just did Footfall in act 5, think I'll wait for the big balance patch to do another run. Ideally, I'd like difficulty increased across the board and Commissar to get some love, it's really bad atm.

>>715099713
who the fuck is that? the VA?

>>715099827
and a streamer

>>715099274
You're entiteld to your wrong opinion, but length has nothing to do with quality.
And how is vs last part not badly paced?
>everything is going swimmingly
>warp jump
>LORD CAPTAIN IT'S OVER WE'RE ALL DOOMED THE GENESTEALERS ARE TAKING OVER AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Really? They couldn't have given you 1 or 2 minor events leading up to it? Even if it was just some dialogue with vigdis or heinrix and sauerback maybe giving you reports about suspicious activity and movemnts on the lowerdecks, or strange agitation among the rabble lately? And why didn't they take over while you were aways? How much better narratively it would have been if you come back from cumrag and everything is falling apart around becausue the cult took advantage of your disappearance, and half of your ship is in open rebellion and there are bugs everywhere and you can trust no one? No, the way it was handled is half assed. It's clear they either were rushing it, or simply didn't give a shit at that point. Or worse - really thought the way it was handled was good. It's fine, passable, the actual rebellion level is good, but the lead up to it and its pace? Trash

>>715099827
Yes, it's an eceleb and a camwhore they keep sucking off. He had a voice in wotr too. Also he's the one behind that godawful blackwater dungeon. I really really hope he doesn't """""""""""""""""contribute""""""""""""""" anything to Dark heresy. All his contributions are steaming piles of crap

>>715100495
>Also he's the one behind that godawful blackwater dungeon
He came up with the concept, the dungeon being cancer is all owlcat

>>715100334
That's one minor issue, compared to Lex not having a real continuous narrative and getting wrapped up by you going in alone without your retinue, arrested adn tried while a certain interrogator could very easily claim you work for Calcazar and stop the trial immediately no question asked

>>715100495
He’s pretty good as Garry the Prophet in CP2077.

>>715100495
he was also in cp2077 as an annoying npc you couldnt shoot, ive tried

>>715100334
I just figure that they saw no need to act immediately when you were gone, but when you miraculously DID come back from cenobite city, they decided it was now or never.

>>715099113
>Bring Jae along
why would you do such a thing anon?

Fenris hjolda!

>>715100595
It's terrible both in concept and in realization. Can't really blame the concept being shit all on him though, since he had to act within the confines of that pisspoor setting. Still, owlkeks shouldn't have enabled his shit ideas

>>715100698
>Lex not having a real continuous narrative
That's true. That is one shortcoming LI has, I agree. That's why both of the dlcs are not a 10. And 8 or a 9 is more appropriate depending on how. Still, I'll take a bit disjointed narrative with just various setpieces strung together with a vague general storyline over a storyline that ends poorly

>Fail a coercion test because I made my RT wade in liquid shit
>Click it again and succeed

Is it supposed to work that way?
The game's framing devices are really hard for me to justify from a RP perspective also and I find myself doing a lot of things just because there's guys to kill.

>>715100742
>>715100731
I'll be honest with you, senpai, I fucking hate e-celeb cameos. They have never been good

>>715101073
Not him but for the fun.

You faggots do realize that vg is meant for these thinly veiled generals you keep posting here? The fuck is wrong with you people?

Total Jimmy Handjobs!

>>715102923
A ragebait article headline thread died for this....

>>715102124
>he went incognito

Should shields have more utility? Like a shield that has lumens on it, a flash bulb, vox caster etc.
I think I've been playing Payday 2 a bit too much but a shield that flashes enemies sounds real nice. Not that I'm complaining about the ability to block enemy attacks

>>715097804
>call Cassia in while I'm bathing
>gaslight into her painting me
just femtrader things

>>715103713
>Can't give your naked portrait to Jimmy or hang it in his cabin
>can't sell it for gorilion PF on a black market
>can't hang it in your cabin instead of theodora portrait
But why?

>>715097123 (OP)
Tried and tested tactics are the best ones
>Charges C'tan shard
Victory is imminent!

Jae is a fucking liability but goddamn she is charming as fuck.

Kib love

They engooneded Lex Imperialis... you love to see it.

>>715104745
Kibs cuddling

>>715104745
>>715105061
The cutest

Heavy Flamer Operative Overseer woo woo.

be careful Kibblesbros you'll attract the anti waifu schizoposter

>>715104867
They could have engoodened it 2 weeks ago when it released

i left the game in my cart and forgot the summer sale ended today ;_;

>>715097981
Imagine being the Seneschal and the successor to your boss' empire is a fucking Lex-brained cop. Poor Abelard.

>>715101691
>within the confines of that pisspoor setting
anon, Golarion doesn't have confines, that's the entire point. there is fucking everything in that setting.

>>715105582
There are worse possibilities for him

WHY DID THEY FUCK WITH SHIELD VISUALS AGAIN FUCK YOU

Also I still can't talk to Solo Man to properly start the next phase of his quest before we land on the planet.

>>715106008
Classic Owlcat

>>715097123 (OP)
What is the general consensus on the best ending for Abelard - duty or family?
I kinda like the ending slide where he dies of old age surrounded by his family, but Abelard becomes quite sad during his first quest if you tell him to move on. Plus he talks about how he wanted to be a seneschal so I dunno if it's a right thing to demotivate him.

>>715106085
>What is the general consensus on the best ending for Abelard - duty or family?
Just kill morowind and don't go heretic and he'll be fine
>during his first quest if you tell him to move on.
He doesn't though

>>715106085
Nurgle

>>715104745
cutest

>>715105143
>Heavy Flamer Operative
I should try something unconventional like that. I was thinking about a psyker operative executioner. Carnival of misery seems like it'd be good for racking up tide of excellence stacks.

>>715106085
First quest doesn't determine ending and I'm tired of seeing this claim. It affects the dialogue of the choice later on that DOES determine the ending.
Either way, going "hurrr, things are gonna change around here" makes you sound like a needy fuck later on.

>>715103557
I was hoping I could mingle with the local cultists but it’s all just gangs

>>715102391
actually he's the only one that I've noticed in games
maybe I just don't recognize the other ones since I don't watch many ultra famous streamers

>>715106506
I'm trying it just to see how well Overseer can work without being a buffbot since Servo Skulls turns Expose Weakness into an 8x8 AOE. Works better on an Arbite Castigator though since the patch today lets you extrapolate Death Sentence as well.

>>715106535
>hurrr, things are gonna change around here" makes you sound like a needy fuck later on.
I don't care how it "makes me sound", theodora left a mess of a protectorate that falls apart every time I'm not available for 5 consecutive minutes.

>killing gives me no pleasure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>I'm Fidelio
>I have no idea who that is
>Believe it or not, neither do I
lmao

>>715106535
>Either way, going "hurrr, things are gonna change around here" makes you sound like a needy fuck later on.
No it doesn't

>>715106535
>Calling out Theodora for being incompetent and declaring that things will have to change
>somehow a bad thing

>>715106085
>but Abelard becomes quite sad during his first quest if you tell him to move on
No he doesn't, even if he did, grow a fucking spine holy shit and learn to hurt other people's feelings, that entire quest is Abelard flexing on you, make yourself respected
>Plus he talks about how he wanted to be a seneschal
And later on he realizes that he wants to be with his family after they all almost die

>>715107874
That image but with Cassia's third eye

>>715107734
You literally break down, practically cry, and go "but I neeeeeeeeeeed you, Abelard" if you pull that shit with him at the beginning of the game.

>>715107631
Yeah, I was really disappointed by the lack of reactivity there

>>715108221
What? When?

>>715108221
But I do need him? How else am I gonna bathe? Without my loyal seneschal? Get the fuck outta here
>>715108339
In anon's addled mind

>>715099523
Female*, sorry, I'm trans and get them mixed up.
Female pious is the best.

>>715108468
shit taste pragmatic is the best female voice

>>715108625
I'm sorry that you'll never know what love is.

>>715108739
projecting a little hard today aren't we anon

The Immaterium released us from its grip. This time.

Why does Idira say "There's movement in the Imperium"? What's on the move? What movement?

>>715110305
anon, she's a schizo

Did they finally fix the Dual Wield 2H Shotgun bugs preventing you from getting
2x attacks?

>>715110305
>he doesn't know

Nice.

Found my new portrait for an officer overseer

>>715111474

>>715109120
I'm high and having fun leave me alone

>>715111142
ANSWER ME!
>>715110785
But all her predictinos are tru tho

>>715106336
Kibs being an enthusiastic sex kitten was honestly unexpected.

I thought she would give a little push back because I'm her boss but she was down to get piped immediately. And the way she code switches from assassin to girl in love is something else.

I just started this. Does the voice acting come back after the prologue at some point? BG3 ruined me.

>>715112114
Yeah but only some times

>initially used cassia as a buffbot
>respec her to fuck them buffs, all navigator offense
>she just fucking deletes everything
holy fuark my wife is strong

>>715112148
Shame. I like Argenta.

>>715112238
EACH
STRIKE
IS A P R A Y E R

I hate the fact that the best time to play owlcat games is 4 years after the release

>>715112237
She can do well at everything, but I prefer my wife to be my cheerleader

>>715111628
She says Immaterium, anon.
So the Warp, the schizo spirit realm etc.

>>715112474
I like shitposting about the game with anons. it's a part of the experience and is best done when the game is released

Haven't played in like 8 months. Have they added so much new stuff to the game that I should just start from scratch?

>>715112414
GOD EMPEROR MOVE-
FOR YOU MY EMP-
[MANIACAL LAUGHTER]

>>715112639
The beta threads were great

argenta was dogshit in the early game but once i got a melta and some levels on her she runs around the entire map deleting packs
i think ill focus on area attack ranged, still havent found a heavy flamer for her yet

>>715112580
She says Empyrean

>>715112850
She's great even early now thanks to the Ripper burst weapon in the Freight Line area
Otherwise just give her Longlas in Act 1

>>715112858
Thank you. I did not understand a single word.

HIGH MOMENTUM

>>715112850
First one you can get is a generic from the priest faction store but you gotta dump a ton into it. Second is from the Void Shadows DLC if you have it and will carry you through Comorragh.

>>715113959
We won't ever hear it in dark heresy....

>>715114047
HIGH MORALE

What the fuck does the Familiar Upgrade Station even do?
It had an interact prompt that did nothing
It didn't raise the stats on my bird
What's the point

>>715114332
It changes it visually for more bling to your pet's resting space

>pasqal's servoskull randomly decides to attend the battle even though I didn't even bring him
Never change owlcat

>>715114816
This unit is cataloguing data about the unfolding battle by the grace of the Omnissiah
We hereby request this unit's investigation remains undisturbed, layman

>>715105582
The other options were a mutant and a heretic

>>715115132
and a retard who willingly walked into a ritual circle

>>715115132
What mutant?

>>715115132
Whatever the option, the lord captain is severely mentally ill, and thanks for that, if he wasn't the expanse would be doomed

>>715115772
The worst part of a heretic playthrough is seeing Abelard's poor mind breaking down as he remains dedicated and loyal to you despite how batshit insane you increasingly obviously are.

>>715115575
Pyskers are mutants

LOW MOMENTUM

>>715116358
>the emperor is a filthy mutie
Nuke the Throne and put a real prime specimen of humanity in charge

Do you like elves?

>>715117840
Why do some Eldar go to battle without tummy armor? I can understand DEldar and Exodites, as they're all freaks or treehuggers respectively, but why do craftworlders parade their unprotected toned abs around in front of the mon'keigh? Is it just typical arrogance?

SEEN ANY ELVES?
HAHAHA

>>715117840
They make for great target practice

>>715097123 (OP)
Can anybody post a clip of the moment when the vox master Vigdis sort of flirt with the mc?
Please.

>awareness check succeeds
>can't figure out what I noticed

>>715117710
Fat Bastard RT is too fat for the Golden Throne

Reminder that Yrliet is autistic and average Eldar would only be slightly racist if you were nice to them.

>>715117840

>>715118062
pretty sure this never happens

>Finally got the Arbites Helmet aka the Retinal Analyser
Dumb name but I finally have something that doesn't look ass fashion wise.

>>715117840
>draw a human with pointy ears
>call it an entirely different species

>>715118245
>Some humans are born with different skin colours
>some people call them an entirely different species

>>715118025
Forget the Corpse Emperor, I now worship tanned tomboy elves

>>715117840
Elves are only good for sacrificing to slaanesh

>>715118096
how would an average Eldar react if a human officer propositioned them for sex after they'd been aboard the vessel for 5 minutes

>>715118093
>he willingly loses one of the many extremely powerful perma missable gear behind the check
I'm not even joking

>>715118093
Run around close to shit, rotate camera and hold TAB.

>>715118245
Game scale often messes with that. Eldar are a race of >7' tall chads and stacies who literally exude an aura of beauty.
This especially shows on tabletop where female Eldar heads are actually mildly attractive, unlike GW's human female heads.

>>715118527
Probably burst out laughing at the sheer ridiculousness of it, believing it to be some kind of odd human joke.

I always wondered, is the Gellar Field stronger in the upper decks of the ship?

>>715099523
I've been wondering about audio modding for this, since it doesn't seem like anyone is doing much with it
I would try adding voices made from Darktide characters since there's a lot of them, male/female variants, and enough variety within those voices you could probably make variants of the voices, too (like taking the psyker voices and making versions that emphasis their psyker-ness, and another version that doesn't)

>>715118681
>[Heretical]:"I'm not joking."

>>715097981
I wish we got more masked portraits, it'd save me the autism of being annoyed when the character model doesn't line up enough

>>715118424
You don't say.

>>715118856
just use AI to make one

>>715118906
She looks like she practices magical girl transformation sequences in private

>>715118906

Kill those heretics yet?

>>715118906
Emperor forgive me I'm about to breed with xeno cows

>try to play heretic
>feel bad and cant do it because im dooming everyone to a horrible fate

>>715118952
I'd need to find a lora that matches the art style perfectly, otherwise it'd just end up looking like crap

>>715118543
>>715118540
I do hold tab constantly, check the map to see where loot locations are, look for every interactable but sometimes I just don't see it.

>>715118998
>WELCOME TO CALIXIS, GENTLEMEN

>>715117840
I don't care about a character's race as long as the character themself is fun. So no, I don't have any feelings about elves one way or the other

>planning 3rd playthrough
>going dogmatic this time
>start doing iconoclast choices again
I just love my (d)eldar crew too much bros. Let's bring some compassion and kindness to the expanse

>>715108061
it's a literal gateway to the warp your eye can't touch her third eye she probably doesn't even have a brain it's just some kind of warp void in there

>>715118998
Almost.
The Lextists on Leethus are being faggy though.

>>715118998
Take off your mask and let me sit on your lap first

>>715099523
Pragmatic male remains undefeated. Pious male gets an honorable mention I guess.

>>715118974
I love elfdar so much.

>>715119041
just upload one of the default portraits to chatgpt and tell it to use that same art style

>>715118998
I wish there were more power armors in game. All I've found are 2, one from a colony project and one from the drussians. Not counting Pasqual and Ulfar's uniques.

Why can't we sex the SoB?

>>715119162
Abelard, chop off this anon's balls for calling my wife a brainlet

>mfw too conflict averse so I had Yurrleet lashed in lieu of following along with her dumb romance path.
I think I dodged a bullet on two fronts.
>>715119514
Because they're the Emperor's fangirls.

>>715119514
GW knows people want it so they refuse it to us out of spite. A truly evil company.

>>715118998
>You see Interrogator [char name] to become a great Inquisitor you need impeccable style

>>715119604
>>Because they're the Emperor's fangirls.
>listen to one of the random Cain audiobooks
>the one where some chaos warlord who can mind control people whos up to fuck with Cain's planet
>Cain casually notices that the SoB he's working with is unsubtly fucking some administratum clerk
they ain't that pious

>>715119514
She'd be too powerful

>>715119735
Well now this warrants some investigation.

>>715119514
each thrust is a prayer

>>715119514
Because she'd be reduced to coomer bait instead of being the single best RPG companion ever created.

>>715119514
Could it be it's because Argenta is simply not into you? Nah, must be an anti-white stragh male conspiracy

>>715119898
>instead of being the single best RPG companion ever created

>>715119912
my RT is a black male thank you very much

>>715119514
It would mess with argenta's story arc
It's a pity that you cant bang her, but after stepping into this ship alone she seems like a different person

>>715120113
>argenta's story arc
what arc?

>>715120113
>tell her she should show some humility, during the approach on the ship
>she (the ship?) decides this means her pride is so intense she needs to kill herself
man, that did not go the way I expected it to. oh well.

>>715119147
Icono also has the best gameplay bonuses by far anyways

>>715120113
I don't know, that part made me think it'd make for a sweet romantic gesture
>In moments of doubt, alone in that ship, she thinks of you, and to her surprise that safeguards her more than anything else
Shame the entire thing is offscreen which is complete dogshit but hey

>>715118768
Depending on the hand-waving of the specific author, that is either "physically" impossible or VERY very likely.

I wish Act 4 Companion quests weren't so shitty.
Pasqal and Kibellah's seem the only ones with effort put into them

pasqal is my techno homie and i never leave him out of the party

>>715120553
Tech-Use/Logic are probably the most useful skill checks to have in the game so not bringing him always make you feel like you're going to miss something

>>715120376
>she thinks of you, and to her surprise that safeguards her more than anything else
You couldn't posisbly sound more like an incel even if you tried
>Yeah, she's so wet for me that it safeguards her more than her faith in the emperor

>>715120783
Go back

>>715120783
I'm sorry you don't believe in The Power of Love

I'm trying Zealot cape and I'm deeply disappointed. Turns out hitting your entire team with a Heavy Flamer only gives one stack.

>>715120783
retard

This is genuinely the first time I'm struggling on companion choice, I wanted to use some comps I didn't use on my first run minus a few

non negotiables:
>kibbles
>cassia
>argenta

not sure who I run for the last 2.
I need someone with tech use, so I'm thinking pasqal, but I also wanted to run heinrix as I had a build in mind for him, and also possible yrliet once I get to act 2.

might need to drop argenta or kibbles.

>kroot wife
>ogryn buddy
I'm looking forward to Inquisition so much the only thing that could make it better is if they added a blank companion or a necron companion

>>715121589
I'd say Pasqal/Jae and Heinrix/Idira are good picks, having a skill monkey and a wizard in your RPG party tends to be good practice
It doesn't necessarily play out that way in the game but it's a hard habit to break

>>715121657
Same except lord inquisitor sex

>>715121657
There is absolutely no way they aren't doing a Necron companion DLC for RT, especially with the Vault one that's necron themed

>>715121737
Yeah, not a fan of Idira/Jae, both are going to die on this run after exploring their paths on my first run. Idira is alright, but Jae is a cunt. That leaves me Pasqal and Heinrix.

I have an insane chainsaw build in mind for Heinrix, in which I think with buffs he'll be capable of soloing the game, so I'm thinking of keeping Pasqal and dropping Kibbles for him, since I'm not really going to need her flavor of busted.

>dude here's ANOTHER dogmatic Soldier/Arch Militant
>oh but you don't get them till mid-act 3
>oh and they have trouble walking places
>oh and they have limited equipment

>>715121889
>I have an insane chainsaw build in mind for Heinrix, in which I think with buffs he'll be capable of soloing the game, so I'm thinking of keeping Pasqal
Pasqal is essential for that since he can go Grand Strat to always act first, then add Missionary Oath and Henrix can instantly buff the whole party with Spirit Drape + generate enough Momentum through Witch Collector + instantly go to 8 AP after triggering Daring Breach with Saint Keefe Boots at which point you hack and saw all enemies with ninja speed
Just add Malpian Shroud + Desolation + Invigorating Resolve and there you go

>Updated visuals for the Kinesiostatic Shield, Hardened Shield, Radiant Shield and Heavy Shield:
Why? WHY? I'm using two of these and they looked better before? They totally changed thy TYPE of model that they use from large shield to buckler and vice versa so now my Noble RT is carrying a door and Soloman is carrying a dish plate.

I wanna believe that the next companion is gonna be a 8000 year old Valancius heir (female) that Trazyn put on ice. Gimme a noble origin companion so I can buff my PC.

>>715121889
>I have an insane chainsaw build in mind for Heinrix, in which I think with buffs he'll be capable of soloing the game
He already can
>chainsaw for heinrix
Disgusting. The man is a KNIGHT! Treat him as such. Chainsaws are for commoners and rabble

>>715122406
You shut your whore mouth.

>>715122406
Hendrix in my current game is clearing maps from act 3 onwards. Shit's insane. I don't even know how the mechanics work but he keeps getting extra MP and AP and no attack limits and he just goes and goes and goes

>>715121962
>worse ranged options than Argenta or Pasqal
>worse at melee than my RT, Abelard or Kibbles
>worst mobility in the game
>his only unique quality is that he's tanky
>oh wait that's not unique at all Abelard is already a tank god, Pasqal is sturdy as hell and both my RT and Kibbles are god tier dodge tanks and parry machines
>won't stop talking in prose and furry roleplays on deck
They did the Emperor's Angels dirty with Ulfar. I was fine with him getting the dreadnought ending on my playthrough

>>715122498
That's not a chainsaw, that's a chainSWORD. Learn to spell

>>715122498
That's now a chainsaw that's a chainSWORD as in a sword as in a weapon fit for knights
A saw on the other hand is a tool for manual laborers

>>715122593
Before Void Shadows released he wasn't even tanky either

>>715122593
Perhaps it's for the better we don't see him again.
>Especially considering the situation with his VA

>Decide to investigate on my own instead of letting the dumb sauerback woman bring me people even though I have to insist twice to do it
>Still get all the same evidence with a few lootable cupboards
>There's a puzzle
>Puzzle gives me a location to loot
>Get two unique items

Shit son I'm never letting her present evidence again.

>>715122985
>LI doesn't have banter voicover because the tranny ruined his voice

I kind expected this game to have more open ended exploration and NPC interactions, is this how all owlcat RPGs are?

>>715123560
what do the items do

>Kiava Gamma steam corridor
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>715123560
I did it this run, and it was just a bunch of tedious bullshit. Nah, I'm letting Saurback handle this one from now on. The loot i will just add through toybox and it's not Rogue Trader's job to do menial busywork

>>715124387
Yes this is their template

So I'm guessing the vault is for sharing shit between characters, right?

>>715124476
You can go around it

>game is called Rogue Trader
>you don't do any roguish trading

>>715124476
>He didn't expertly dodge the steam
Out-skilled by spicy air, what a shame...

>>715124771
>>715124476
>he didn't have his Skull Servo Swarm auto solve it

>>715124429
Sword is generic and I haven't tested the goggles to see if they stack or not but they probably don't. Also gotta see if Stolen Breath triggers off overseer companion dying.

Jinveri is cute

I probably should have shot Calligos.

>50% of the map still can't be explored
>literally the entire left/right parts are barren
At least Kangmaker & Wrath didn't do this

>>715124550
No, it has no purpose. Maybe it's for multiplayer or something

>>715124841
You can not "solve" it. It's just there and you either find a way around it, or navigate it

>>715125021
Buy the second season pass the next DLC will add 2 more systems near Dragonus!

I hope the next DLC doesn't only start on fucking Act 2

Commorragh fucking sucks, I wish there was a mod to skip it like the Fade in DAO

>>715125397
You jest but at least Lex added 4 new systems
I don't think Void added any

>>715125509
to be fair only the Malice battle is appaling, and I still have no idea how non Psykers MC do it and the arena after when you only have trash weapons, at least Argenta as MT can still do high damage even with that garbo burst gun or rifle

>>715125559
>I don't think Void added any
Yes it did

>>715125559
Abelard can still tank just fine, they also give you a pretty good shotgun and shield now

>>715125708
>taking Abelard to Commorragh
big oof

>scour every map to loot every item
>act 4
>realize I somehow missed Argentas helm in act 3

>Feel the urge to restart
>Again
I just feel the urge to do a heretic run but I keep wondering if I should do it as a psyker or just a disgusting bootlegger pirate-wannabe

>>715124476
>non-combat environmental hazards
Oh boy I love moving around the map and randomly getting hit with fast-stacking semi-permanent defbuffs. Traps can eat a dick as well. If I'm not on combat I should not have to worry about taking damage.

>finish void battle above Dargonus
>loading screen taking a lot longer than normal
>gets to 100%
>just sits there forever
>repeats every time
good ol' owlcat

>>715125819
I got late into act 2 on a Heretic run shortly before LI released but of course they are still adding and tweaking THE ENTIRE GAME so I'm just going to have to start from scratch when I finish this current Dogmatic run.

>>715125754
>Missed Argenta's helm in Act 3
Shit.
So did I.

>>715125559
>I still have no idea how non Psykers MC do it and the arena after when you only have trash weapons,
The game gives you opportunities to scavenge decent weapons and consumable items. That's my favorite part of act 3 because you actually have to use any means possible to stay alive for the first time since the prologue

>>715125886
I got this when I defeated the final pirate ship battle. I just reloaded and toyboxed it to instakill the enemies. Couldn't be fucked stomping them again, I didn't have 45 seconds to spare.

>>715125819
I have literally 1100h on the game and never made it past Act 4, have also done Act 1 around 20 times by now and I despite it

>>715125753
>meta-gaming
big cringe

>>715125886
Got it several times in my latest playthrough. Also strating with act 4 I started getting a bug where I couldn't progree argenta's turn. After I was done using all her actions I would simply be unable to end the turn, or use any ability. Happened during final battle too. I didn't give a shit. Just reloaded and used toybox to kill all enemies

>>715125929
Same. Though in my current dogmatic run I seem to be killing off a lot of companions.

>>715126298
Argenta blowing a hole in Idira's skull during the Theodora ghost mission was the fucking funniest thing ever
When I told her to shoot I thought we were talking about the ghost, but nope there goes Idira lmao

>>715126102
Time well-spent since act 1 is the best and act 4 is the worst

>>715126298
>>715126383
Unsanctioned psykers, xenos and rogue arbitrators are a threat to you and the Imperium, anon.
It's the right thing to do.

>>715126298
Like whom? The only ones I killed are elves and kamilla

>>715124907
Got into a combat, breath does not trigger off shooting the pitbull.

>>715126585
Just about all of those...
And that poor old military man...

Why are flamers so buggy around stairs

>>715126383
>glass Idilra

>>715127000
>old military man...
Whomst?

>>715127000
You bastard. And after all the introducing he did!

>>715100334
Is it just me or they patched it but yesterday doing the battle in the crypt i can thoroughly destroy the genestealer crypt that spawn enemy because iirc can only be damaged by the boss special attack
>>715102651
Do shooting the ship when asked in dialogue reducing it's effectiveness when you decide to make it your escort ship? Also fuck pirate escort ship that shit destroyed in 1 turn

>>715127386
>Is it just me
No. I think it's a bug since they still have the buff that says "can not be destroyed by regular means". So it will get fixed. Maybe

>>715127068
AoEs as whole are, try using Cassia's Lidless Stare

>>715127386
No, but it cost you some PF to fix it later

>>715127068
The game gets fucky wucky when it's time to calculate sight lines and trajectories across elevation levels
Characters at the top of stairs often can't draw a line of sight to enemies at them bottom even though visually they stand plainly in the open

>>715102651
this but the eldar alongside himmler

Are heavy flamers actually good? Whenever I try to make an Argenta build with one it just comes out meh

>>715112237
>Spec her into tactitian as usual
>Anon here says spec her to grand strategist to exploit first turn
>Hmm okay why not? Let's try
>Cassia first turn
>Cast mend reality to buff whole party
>Give extra turn to idira
>Idira use prescient and forewarning with the auto retaliate power with 0 AP (from accessory)
with +1 psy rating due to psyber raven talent (Still aware of 5% psychic phenomena)
>Proceed to wipe enemies in first turn and enemy can hit you since all party get dodge boost and perception boost
Never though it's gonna become this easy, praise the emperor

What's you're preferred Dogmatic party composition?
>RT Officer
>Argenta
>Hendrix
>Pascal
>Cassia
>Kibbles

Abelard is taking care of business on the bridge, Soloman is being autistic about regulations and fucking his dog below decks, Ulfar may as well not exist and Idira & Yrilet were blammed. Oh and Marzipan was eaten by demons or something I guess.

>>715128089
They can be decent but not as good as Burst
And they definitely require an Officer ally with Focus! + Voice of Command because the hit% is shit for a long time
Just really outclassed by Shotguns now what with them costing 1 AP for area damage as well

>>715127386
I haven't actually shot it to see but I'm pretty sure it makes the two fights easier but removes the loot Janrok gives you after the battle. The loot itself is cargo and stuff for your planets like xeno-artefacts. Still cost me 5 PF to fix the ship.

>>715112850
I dunno but melta range is a bit short and cost 2 AP per shot, kinda bad action economy for me although that melta you get earlier is pretty busted with 7 range

>>715128134
Well, there's a reason I told you to go GS anon
Now make Pasqal GS as well, give him Missionary Oath and watch the true unlimited power

>>715128247
I had to make him an overseer so he could have a servoskull friend, sorry

>>715120454
I think the last 2 upcoming dlc will add quests and companion in ch 4 instead ch 1-2 like the current dlc

>>715128089
No, but the Vindictor flamer looks so fucking cool than I'm gonna use it anyways

>>715128452
Owlkek will probably be crucified for that
People already got them to have Solomorne start earlier

>>715128089
Kind of a meme weapon unless you know how to stack the hell out of buffs/debuffs.

>>715120963
Use cape of hatred instead, 3% bonus damage per enemy dead due to area attack
>>715121589
Heinrix for momentum buff and lore xenos also he's gonna be your tank and hit like a truck with executioner spec, kibbles with exec in my experience so far kinda ass and damage wise is lower than jimmy although she can hippity hoppity jump

>>715128473
Oh they fixed it. it's not pocket sized anymore

3 quintillion builds, companions, and item synergies BUT EVERY FUCKING FIGHT DIES IN THE FIRST TURN EVEN ON THE HARDEST DIFF WHATS THE FUCKING POINT

>>715128452
The game needs more quests in ch4 and 5 I would welcome that but as for companions the only way to justify a late-game recruitment at this point would be an alignment dependent companion

Heretic Psykers should get to have a daemonhost companion

>>715128628
Having fun, I for one loving alpha striking everything into submission
Why should you suffer the mutant, heretic, xenos to attack you even once

>>715128473
When do i get SoB hentai helmet? seeing that they finally adding it in-game

>>715128865
see now that would actually be awesome as an act 4 recruitable companion

>>715128628
to justify clogging up your inventory with tons of useless shit

The hardest fight in the game is the first fight in the mechanicus forge world with the two tech priests and their exploding servitors

>>715129052
Some easily-missable location in act 3, apparently.
>>715128865
And I should get to have a cute gf that loves me.

Ill ask on this thread
But as someone who enjoys Twisted Metal

Is Speed Freaks good?

>>715128452
It's unlikely but I hope we get content for the next DLC as mostly Acts 1, 3, and 5. Recover whoever Trazyn had on ice in Rykad (maybe stolen by Dark Eldar so you can grab them on Majoris since there's no explorable map there), On Commoragh run into the original theft plot again, act 5 Trazyn is coming for his shit.

How to make Eagle good?

You niggas seriously believe there will be trazyn? Get real. You'll fight his goons and little helpers. Doubt he'll make an appearance

>>715129551
>Runs 20 tiles and explodes
>Explodes again on death

Whoever designed that fight is a jackass that wants you to do the rest of the map with traumas.

>>715130293
Equip Item and give it Blinding strike. It's a 80 damage krak grenade that can hit anywhere on the map for 1 AP every round.

>>715130421
Cast cassia death eye and hope they all failed willpower test

>>715130293
It's the only pet I haven't played around with yet sorry anon can't help you

>>715118954
That's basically what Aspect Warriors do. They spend their time training in how to ritualistically put on their War Masks and theb practice combat. They're basically grimdark Power Rangers.

which way to get rid of idira is the best/funniest for a dogmatic run

>>715130794
>spoiler
KEK

>>715128089
I used one as a secondary to her heavy bolter to generate more versatility stacks, and while it's not nearly as strong, playing on core it was still a death machine once she started getting rolling, but I'm also fairly certain it would be the same with literally any weapon since she just scales way too hard once she gets rolling. Was funny to hear her voice lines while she was burning the heretics and the xenos, though.

>>715130905
Either
>Have Argenta issue a point blank bolter round to her face
Or
>Hand her off to Jimmy after assuring her you'll keep her on despite her instability.
>Bonus if you do that after her companion quest and tell her not to take the implant.

>>715130734
How to make Dog not extremely bad?

>>715130920
Laugh all you want. Maugan Ra practiced so hard he can solo Tyranid Hive Fleets and one-shot Bio-Titans.

>>715131151
I intend to do just that.
LOL.

>>715131113
Beg Owlcat for a buff

the whispers told me a secret~

>>715130421
>walk back to the ship
>full heal
>return to Kiava Gamma
Nothing personnel, kid

>>715128089
>>715128183
>>715130982
what about melta?

>>715132239
Meltas are just high Armor Pierce flamers with how they're handled in the game. She can make anything work by virtue of being a well scaling ranged DPS, but anything with a limited range is going to make your life more annoying if it's your main gameplan

>>715132239
melta is even worse since the aoe is shittier
Shotguns are the new king of AoE weapons

wth the Eagle pet is OP

I'm at the beginning of act4 and still new bugs that haven't had before the dlc. At some point owlcat must put his shit together and put some effort in having a functional game, I mean it's not like a breakthrough game on a technical side

>>715135131
>play the game 2.5 years after release
>still feels as fresh as day 1

>>715135131
The DLC patch introduced all new bugs to the game
I noticed some dialogue flags getting triggered incorrectly and showing you the responses to decisions you didn't make
In a similar fashion I got people in cumrag talking about Solomorne as if I had brought him along to the city but he was left behind on the flagship
Sasuga Owlcat

What is the name of Argentas new helmet? I'm trying to add it via toybox.

>>715135843
Corruption Eradicator Helmet

Replaying the game and referring to a walkthough to make sure you aren't missing anything/fucking anything up is actually very satisfying. I've been using the neoseeker one.

>kill Yrliet after escaping cumrag
>she's suddenly back and playable at some point, probably after the final jeanstealers fight
>ending slide says she's trapped in cumrag and becomes a deldar

>>715136240
genuinely amazing how something as simple as event flags can break in so many places after already working for over a year

>Dogmatic Run
>Abelard (Ath, Car)
>Kibbles (Demo, Med)
>Hendrix (Xeno, Imp)
>Pasqal (Tech, Log)
>Fishwife (Aware, Warp)
>(You) (Per, Cor, Com)

>>715135783
Some funny bug include your RT literally bypass enemy armor, i remember my RT blowing servitor easily when i checked the log they literally not counting the servitor's armor

>>715111628
>pre-thought crimes
Abelard, throw that witch for a loop would you?

>>715137547
She's not wrong about Henrix though

>>715117840
as trophies, yes
can't imagine keeping a creature that would betray you in any situation in which she isn't dead

>fight a forgebeast
>"when this enemy first takes damage in a round, it gets a turn"
>fucking thing gets a turn every time I damage it in a single round
Am I reading this wrong or is this a bug or what
I mean eventually I just said fuck this and used my executioner RT to keep damage/bleeding him until he died but what is this horseshit

Also the fact that this is a dialog choice makes me feel like the biggest dork on the planet

>>715138740
He only gets one extra turn per combat round, so after your first dude damages him once he gets an extra turn and then you can hit him with your other characters until everyone had a turn and you enter round 2 of the combat encounter

>>715130313
Both Trazyn and Bobby G show up in Battlefleet gothic 2 why wouldn't he show up here

>>715138740
I remember in my playthrough i'm getting shredded fighting this thing on that chaos corrupted mechanicum ship, beating it only with my RT doing desperate measure since all my party members are incapacitated. Played it again and i destroyed them in one turn also the kiava gamma boss is pretty easy now

>>715130313
You ventured into trazyn's vault, why do you thing he won't be appear?

>shoot the bitch, Lord Captain
why is Abelard so based

>>715139014
>Abelard I didn't expect it there.
>Back of the knee subsector maybe.

>>715097123 (OP)
how much neomarxism in this game?

Do you guys still recommend waiting for year 2 or is it worth buying now?

>>715141000
/pol/ is that way buddy

>>715141241
>NOOOOOOO YOU MUST HAVE PORTRAITS AND REFERENCES TO MY LORD AND SAVIOR JEESUS CHRIST AND HIS MOTHER MARY IN UNRELATED VIDEO GAMES YOU HERETIC!!!!

the irony of a neomarxist zealot in a warhammer 40k vidya thread

>>715141324
what the fuck are you even talking about

>>715097981
I can't use masked and helmeted pics because then I imagine my character is constantly wearing it. Wearing it to eat, to shit, during sex

>>715141660
I'm asking if there is neomarxist ideoology injected into this game. It's not a difficult question, and so far some marxist midwit got triggered someone doesn't want his religion included.

>>715100731
>He’s pretty good as Garry the Prophet in CP2077.
I unironically thought he was Jesse Cox (another jewtube celeb) the first time I played it. His voice is so bland, it doesn't fit in Vidya.

I don't get it.

>>715142214

>>715141324
Lmao schizo

>>715142356
having transexuals and multiculturalism in warhammer 40k or forgotten realms is schizo. Save your impotent insults subhuman.

Can anybody answer the question or is this thread just one jewish whore/hired shill?

>>715142430
here's a pity (You)

>>715142430
no, there is no trans in rogue trader. gays yes, upon request. and 1 case NOT requested, but it's a complicated story

>>715142176
Cox is the guy with the faulty dick implant

>>715142505
Save it subhuman, you're literal cattle
>>715142632
Thanks anon. Anything else? I'm considering buying it when it's on sale but heard that owlcat puts some shit in theeir newer games

>>715142747
it's fine man, it's a 40k game, a real rpg. the only thing that you to ask yourself is "I'm ok to play a turn based combat with a leveling system that require you to complete the game at least once to begin to understand?"

Cool sperg out retard

>>715142947
Sounds fine to me
>>715142957
>worship my jewish psychopathic gods
I'd like to see you whores have to enjoy your hobbies with portraits of hitler everywhere to remind you what subhumans you are, I'm sure you'd enjoy it :)

>>715111747
I thought she'd just starfish into a bed since she can't really feel anything

>>715104745
what an absolute piece of trash of a gf. no wonder it's popular in here

>>715141000
I think /pol/fags would say that Warhammer is inherently "neomarxist" if they were aware of the lore GW wrote for it. Chudcels really like Warhammer 40k but it's constantly making fun of them (and wypipo in general).

Imperium of Man:
>metaphor for the western world / white people
>they follow a bastardized religion despite LARPing as pious
>completely useless at stopping the spread of chaos
Orks:
>have British accents
>created to fight for a reptilian ruling elite (Old Ones)
>used to be powerful and fearless, devolved into a bunch of hooligans
Tau:
>most likely represents China
>advanced and industrialized at a speed the surprised everyone
>is capable of having relations with other races that don't involve military conquest (unlike the Imperium)
Necrons and Aeldari
>both have Middle Eastern motifs and names
>deeper history that far predates the Imperium of Man
>the Imperium is in denial about the Aeldari origins of their religion

>>715143907
>the usual lefty wot

>>715143907
>Actually it's a metaphor for
SHUT UP
SHUT THE FUCK UP
STOP EXPECTING EVERYTHING TO BE SYMBOLISM
YOU ALREADY RUINED CINEMA WITH YOUR SCHIZO NONSENSE
FUCK OFF

Catachan women are a metaphor for my desire to pump muscular women full of children

>>715119912
Rent free.

>>715120783
You are so fucking dumb, i hope its bait

>>715126383
Kek i never did other thing, idria was disgusting and its cool that she died. I love killing yrliet in the end of quest

ok real discussion here, psychers should have had a more unique or dedicated build other than the recent raven, for fuck sake with idria and heirnix "straight pole" van calox I have to choose the archetype that just gives me the the base stat that I need and just forgive anything related to the archetype

>>715145843
Just build heinrix as executioner, idira as overseer

>>715118787
I had this same idea with importing Darktide voices and I was looking on how to do this. There is one anime gacha or whatever voice mod replacer on Nexus and apparently you can only replace existing voices, but can't add new ones

>>715114047
Good. It's a dumb mechanic. A cheat when you are losing and a win harder button when you are winning or even doing ok. At least Desperate Measures have heavy drawbacks.

kibs

Since it doesn't matter if the enemy has 1 exploit or 50 when you proc this piece of shit, I've been thinking about making Operative with a big AOE weapon, like a flamer or something, is that a bad idea? Maybe the community figured this out long ago and I'm reinventing the wheel...

>>715148308
That's how people use Pasqal.
It's good but not amazing

>>715148308
Bro? Your tactical knowledge?

>>715148308
you can run this with executioner for the carnival thing, apply bleed/burn on every enemy on the map
then hit the fire button on fire psyker to proc every instance of burning on the map, congrats you now gained enemies x 1dmg2pen, usable every turn (assuming you can cast carnival, but thats easy with chronomancer clock and inquis ring)

>>715106506
>a psyker operative executioner
STOOOOP FUCKING STOOOOOOOP
FOR THE LAST TIME, PSYKER EXECUTIONER IS THE OP CLASS YOU AREN'T COOOOOOOOL AARHGHGDSFARGEG
jk do what you want idc

Is Idira worth bringing to commoragh?

>>715117840
I tolerate elves. I dragged her all through Comorragh, witnessed her kill all the farseers that killed her people, gave her some lashes for fucking up badly and then I saw her betrayed by her own people despite her continuous efforts to prevent them from dying in stagnation. At the end I got one of the most loyal assassins I could have and all it took was dragging her to the final point of her desperate journey into desolation, where I was her only true recourse.

>>715128136
>Abelard for announcements, handling dignitary shit, acting offended at everything.
>Pasqal for vibe checks and tech decks.
>Kibbles because I think she pisses blood on the bridge tapestries if I fucking leave her at home.
Everyone else is dependent. It's more who gets benched outside of their remit. Jae suffers the most, Henrix would be right alongside it but turns out having a literal Ordos Xenos Inquisitor in a story involving a lot of fucking Xenos and the Inquisition means it comes up a lot. Go fucking figure.

>>715132239
>>715133062
Do shotguns have a cool air jet sound effect when they burn down enemies? Then they can be the king,

>>715151598
Idira was made to be a benchwarmer the second you get your 7th companion.

>>715151598
She in the upper set of interactability for stuff going on in cumonmyrag, if that's what you're looking for sure but it's nothing tremendous either.

>>715135131
>>715135783
>Playing a Owlcat game right after a major DLC release.
One month after release, at least, before you dive into it.

Hell, just wait for the ultimate edition at this point if you already finished at least one full playthrough.

>>715117840
The Eldar are my favorite faction in 40k and my favorite depiction of Elves in general. So yes.

They have gigakino lore and easily the best aesthetics of all the races in the setting.

>>715097123 (OP)
>taking your SHIP NAVIGATOR into COMBAT as a your STANDARD PROCEDURE
fucking retarded beyond belief, who thought of this shit?
oh great your NAVIGATOR caught a fucking stray bolter round now you're fucking stranded great plan

>>715097123 (OP)
>finally find first merchant ship after a few hours of wandering around
>have about 8 profit factor so maybe I can buy some cool weapons or someth-
>a pack of 3 medkits cost 6 profit factor
>some neat things cost close to 20
What the fuck is the point of trading in this game? Why are things so expensive? Is there some way to farm a ton of profit factor?

nobody here actually uses Jae, right

>start combat
>use my abilities in the sequence that gives me an extra turn and/or wipes the entire board of enemies
>end combat
>collect literal trash
>wordswordswordswords
>walkwalkwalk-combat
>start combat
>use my abilities in the sequence that gives me an extra turn and/or wipes the entire board of enemies
>end combat
>collect literal trash
>walkwalkwalk

waow

>>715151906
profit factor isn't consumed when you buy stuff. You can get everything you fulfill the profit factor requirement for, for free. You just need to prove you're rich enough.
>>715152025
I'm very rapidly regretting it.

>>715151598
I wouldn't know, I kicked her out of my ship the second I had the chance. Walking warp timebomb she was.

>>715112237
Cassia is basically a first turn nuke for me. Wipes entire group of enemy faster than anyone else

>>715151905
A Rogue Trader using a Navigator as part of his entourage is a massive flex. Means he can afford to potentially waste a really valuable "resource" on a whim and just get a new one. At least superficially it looks like that.

>>715117840
Elves yes.
Eldar no. Even by 40k standards (one of the lowest world-building wise) they are one of the worst, along with CSM

>>715118245
Funny that there are like entire human races that are less human looking than the eldar or tau

>>715152025
Nah, she feels like someone you should meet earlier in the story when you are not even an official Rogue Trader quite yet. By the time she's asking me to help her rescue some random criminal friend of hers, I'm already dealing with planetwide issues and her small crap doesn't feel that important at all.

>>715141909
>He doesn't wear a helmet during sex

>>715152025
She's useful, gives me profit factor and a pet lacerax.
But i pretty much never have her in my party

>>715117840
This >>715152249

>>715151906
To add to what other anon said: The only time profit factor has an active cost it's usually signposted in the details of that option, and usually in dialogue. Shopping trade is literally just the factions giving you goody bags for sending them so much shit because you're gucchi as fuck.

Don't worry about "I gave a faction shit I don't have the profit factor for yet" either, you can go back later and pick up stuff you've already reached the trade level for.

How does Kibbles respond if I fuck Jae?

>>715117840
I have vicarious sympathy/hatred for Eldar entirely because of Eldar players over a period of, oh fuck like 25 years fuck me I'm old.
They've had shit/great times over the years, though I'd argue shittier than great most of the time, so I have some second hand sympathy for them on behalf of their players.
For completely unrelated reasons fuck the Tau.

>>715152940
Not very well

>>715152249
>>715152780
Warhammer fantasy elves are lame as fuck in comparison to the Eldar though. Both in terms of aesthetics as well as their lore. Their lore basically just boils down to gay ass court politics, being goody two shoes status quo maintainers and seething about the Druchii all the time.

Whereas in 40k the Eldar actually get to be morally more complex, being backstabbing dicks and manipulators of the imperium just as much as they are their allies at times, and best of all there is none of the fucking lame and gay "Muh mortal enemy dark reflection rivalry shit" between the Craftworld Eldar and the Dark Eldar. The best part about the Eldar is that both the Dark Eldar and the CWE still regard each other as kin, even if they kind of hate each other, and will often fight together against mutual enemies rather than just being stuck in some lame protracted civil war over who gets to be the phoenix king like the fantasy elves are.

>>715151598
If you also bring Argenta along, sure

>>715153074
>Warhammer fantasy elves are lame as fuck in comparison to the Eldar though.
AYYYYYYYY LMAAAAO
>being backstabbing dicks and manipulators of the imperium
But they are not some great manipulators. They are literally Imperium's pets and too retarded to actually double cross Imperium or anyone without killing themselves in the process/end.
>, and best of all there is none of the fucking lame and gay
Picrelated begs to differ.
>and will often fight together against mutual enemies
But this is almost false. 6th edition codex had 1 minor mention of Dark Eldar aiding Yanden on Valedor. After than CWE and DE only teamed up when Guilliman ordered them to march into the Eye of Terror to handle him some Eldar artifact.
>rather than just being stuck in some lame protracted civil war over who gets to be the phoenix king like the fantasy elves are.
Yeah because Vect - Yannari civil war is soooooo dynamic. Just like the whole Ynnari plot-line

>>715153074
Craftworld Eldar are just fucking pathetic though
They pine after a civilization they can't even attempt to rebuild because they are forced to live on ships they can't build more of.
They have no goal and live for nothing. And they only have themselves to blame because

The only Eldar i respect are Exodites, since they're the ones who actually had the balls to reject their fucked civilization and went on their own to live how they want instead of whining about it.

I like Idira.

>>715153007
The dichotomy of Eldar is such a weird ass situation
>Absurdly strong rules on tabletop, to the point that their strength comes from the core mechanics of the game and thus can't really be changed
>Treated like shit in pretty much every piece of lore that isn't Valedor, frequently get clowned on in their own books
>Model sales were bad due to their range having the oldest un-refreshed models in 40k with Warp Spiders and Vypers. As soon as updates happened they sold out virtually overnight.
>Despite the refresh Eldar lore has only gone backwards, with nothing new except that what was the newest lore is now essentially retconned

>>715153610
>Unironically posting Mike Brooks' fan fiction
Bro nobody takes his books seriously except for Ork fans. They're Goto tier slop.

>>715154274
>they sold out virtually overnight.
Nope.
They sold much slower than Marines, than plastic Krieg, than Cathay

>>715154353
>>Unironically posting Mike Brooks' fan fiction
Shall I post Valedor novel where manliest CWE character cries like a baby over the corpse of his lover amidst the battlefield (not very different from Brooks where autarch started crying right when his waifu was killed)?

>>715153610
>>715154274
No actual Eldar fan asked for the Ynnari bs or liked it, it was shit introduced with the whole "let's squat slaanesh out of warhammer" bs idea that GW had going on under the previous CEO, which was thankfully aborted, but it left the Ynnari without any purpose because they were meant to be the tool via which Slaanesh could be removed from 40k and also probably via which all Eldar factions could be combined into one faction under the banner of the Ynnari.

Basically, the whole Ynnari shit was designed to drastically alter the lore of 40k as a whole and Eldar in particular, and was driven by people who didn't even like the Eldar and probably just wanted to make 40k more "family friendly" by removing the rape sex god and also the sadistic murder torture elves.

>>715154359
>Krieg and Cathay
Anon I play the fucking game. Every refreshed Eldar model except Asurmen and the Swooping Hawks sold out within the day of their pre-order going up, and Asurmen was sold out within the week of release.
Most of the Krieg models didn't even sell out, and at this very moment you can check Cathay's sales and the only thing that's out is their Grand Battalion.
Yeah Eldar aren't Marine tier sales wise, fucking nobody is, but they're still above fucking Krieg.

>>715117840

>>715154456
>where manliest CWE character cries like a baby over the corpse of his lover amidst the battlefield
I legitinately don't know what you're getting at. There's only two moments where a character cries in that book and neither of them are over lovers.

>>715154528
>No actual Eldar fan asked for the Ynnari bs or liked it
False.
One of the biggest Eldar-fags cope was how awesome were pre-Fall Eldar.
Ynnari are your pre-Fall Eldar. Enjoy sucking Imperium's cock.

>>715154660
His face at the end
>that didn't feel as good as i thought it would

>>715154628
You are talking to the resident eldar hating retard, he isn't arguing in good faith. Every time Eldar are even mentioned in any 40k thread he tries to start a shitflinging contest about them for some asinine reason.

>>715154734
>I legitinately don't know what you're getting at.
When dying Yrel sucks off his second in command

>>715154793
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about? Ynnari have nothing to do with the pre-fall Eldar, they are just a new splinter faction of the post fall Eldar composed of Craftworlders, Dark Eldar and Harlequins.

>>715154836
>. Every time Eldar are even mentioned in any 40k thread he tries to start a shitflinging contest about them for some asinine reason.
Too bad I didn't visit 40kg for year, at least.

>>715154886
>Ynnari have nothing to do with the pre-fall Eldar
Yeah except of Fractures of Biel-Tan every lore book described Ynnari as pre-Fall Eldar.

Ynnari were an interesting idea that was executed in the absolute worst possible way
What should have been 30 years of developing a faction and having them search for their macguffins ended up being a couple paragraphs and two of the worst black library books ever written (and that's saying something)

>>715154863
>Man lays dying beside his best and longest friend, almost completely destroyed both in mind and body
Yeah man that's probably as good a time as any for anyone to cry, especially consider that scene ends with (legitimate spoilers ye fucking ingrate) his friend ends up dying to save his life and give him more time to live.

>>715155074
>30 years of developing
>40k
Pick one

>>715154917
Probably because you are a retarded teritary that has no models and has never played the actual fucking game. Your understanding of 40k is based on vidya and memes, given the contents of your posts.

>>715155002
No they haven't you colossal moron. The ynnari are a post fall of the Eldar cult worshipping Ynnead. We know exactly when and how they emerged, we know the factions of the Eldar from which they draw their numbers, we know the technology they use, there is fucking nothing in them that makes them any more "pre-fall eldar" than any other faction of the Eldar could claim to be. The pre-fall eldar are fucking dead, and have been dead for over 10 thousand years within the context of 40k, all that was left of them are the survivors of the fall, each of whom are at best a pale shadow of the power of the pre-fall Eldar.

>>715155109
They literally confess their love to each other in book.

>>715155184
>Probably because you are a retarded teritary that has no models and has never played the actual fucking game
Post your models with a piece of paper that has my post number written on it in the photo.

>>715155002
For the love of God anon pick up a book from time to time, even if solely to not be wrong.
Ynnari were a dipshit fringe cult that only picked up momentum because GW literally forced them to.
Imagine if an Inquisitor enacted a plan to resurrect the Emperor, but it went haywire because of an Ork Invasion and instead only partially worked. Then halfway across the galaxy a fucking Night Lord gets a vision from the Emperor and decides to become Loyalist again, and all his warvand just goes 'Yeah sure okay we're with you', and then he goes and fucking blows up Macragge trying to recruit the Ultramarines, who ALSO just go 'Yeah sure we're with you'.
The entire Ynnari plotline was complete and utter horse shit that was butchered because Gav Thorpe was mad that someone else wrote Eldar better than him.

>>715155239
I am visiting my folks at our family's summer home so I don't have my models with me, otherwise I would post them with the timestamp. All I can give your right now is photos I have of my models I've taken before.

I expect you to post your models in turn, dipshit.

>>715155427
>framed photo of hitler on the desk
never change 4chan

>>715155427
>i-i'm at my parents house!!! I can't!!!!
I accept your concession.

>>715155520
Uncle Adolf was a great lad.

>>715155547
Still not seeing your models, faggot.
I got plenty more pictures I can post of my models.

>>715155639
you know the one complaining about the ork player is underage or retarded

>>715155239
>>715155547
Bro, your models?

>>715155946
Nice avatar, here's mine

>>715155184
>that has no models
Yeah, eat shit.

>>715155184
>No they haven't you colossal moron. The ynnari are a post fall of the Eldar cult worshipping Ynnead.
And by worshipping Ynnead they are reaching pre-Fall Eldar capabilities, it's openly spelled out in Psychic Awakening.

>>715156002
I sbould really touch up the loincloth on mine. Did it when I was a bit of a worse painter and didn't know how to use White properly.

So... What're Owlcat going to announce today?

>abelard, I need you t-
>yes my lord, anything you say my rogue trader imperium lord regent emperor. I will die for anything you smell and see in a 24 mile radius of the warp.

>>715156074
Rumors are its some music for dark heresy, maybe the main theme.

>actually buying the overpriced plastic toys

>>715156042
>And by worshipping Ynnead they are reaching pre-Fall Eldar capabilities, it's openly spelled out in Psychic Awakening.
Pre-Fall capabilities =/ Pre-Fall Eldar. The Ynnari are a death cult. When Ynnead is fully formed she's going to kill ALL Eldar. The 'good side' to it is that rather than be infinite torture like with Slaanesh, every Eldar soul will combine and form a singular and utterly 'complete' being who will zero-sum out of existence to a higher reality.

>>715156203
It's not even an expensive hobby you poor.

>>715156042
>And by worshipping Ynnead they are reaching pre-Fall Eldar capabilities, it's openly spelled out in Psychic Awakening.
This is just flat out false.
The Ynnari are still vulnerable to predations of Slaanesh when using psychic powers, nor they cannot reincarnate themselves if they die like the pre-fall Eldar could.
Not to mention that there was a lot of more to the pre-fall Eldar than just psychic powers. They were the masters of the galaxy at that time, trough both psychic mastery as well as technological supremacy, with no other race being capable of standing in their way at that time. The whole fall of the Eldar narrative is about how this unquestionable dominance made them arrogant, and increasingly indulgent in their hedonistic and leisure pursuits because for all intents and purposes, they had no challenges left within the galaxy.

>>715156218
>Pre-Fall capabilities =/ Pre-Fall Eldar.
More mental gymnastics.
>The Ynnari are a death cult.
And also the only cult which matter because ALL CWE named Characters are Ynnari.

Pre-fall Eldar are a bunch of spoilt degens coasting on a weak era with gibs and no real competition, I’d rather wank for necrontyr

>>715156160
>Owlcat reveal the main theme and the deldar gf

>>715156358
>The Ynnari are still vulnerable to predations of Slaanesh
So as pre-Fall Eldar.
WHOAH turns out Eldar were shit since the start. No wonder why Old Ones made krorks.

>>715156203
The trick is buy better product without turning yourself into paypig

>>715156404
The reason the necrons went to hibernation and hiding was because after the war in heaven the Eldar were ascendant and actively hunting down the diminished and depleted necrons. They did correctly calculate that eventually the Eldar would collapse, granting the Necrons the opportunity to reassert their dominion over the galaxy.

>>715128583
Give her drukhari weapon prof and equip toxic blades.

>>715156392
>And also the only cult which matter because ALL CWE named Characters are Ynnari.
Actually as of the latesr Codex none of them are.
Yvraine has spent so long failing in-universe that she became a death-obsessed lunatic who began pushing the Ynnari into more suicidal battles so that Ynnead could feed on more souls. There was nothing to show for this so all the named characters flat out left her.
>Eldrad went back to Ulthwe, where he wasn't exactly welcomed but they couldn't turn him away
>Jain Zar left and is currently searching for alternate ways to prevent the Rhana Dandra
>Iyanna Arienal is now looking for the Tears of Morai-Heg again, having grown disillusioned with Yvraine and the Ynnari
>Yriel returned to Iyanden and appears to have taken up piracy again since the Spear of Twilight is no longer killing him
>Lelith left and returned to Commoragh, where she's now feuding with Vect

>>715156469
Nigger, slaanesh wasn't a fucking thing for the pre-fall eldar. You clearly don't even know the most basic elements of the Eldar lore. The fall of the eldar was fucking caused by the birth of slaanesh. Before that event, Slaanesh did not fucking exist, and did not prey on Eldar souls. The pre-fall Eldar didn't have to hide their presence in the warp via using runes etc as proxies for their psychic powers, they could just use psychic energies at will because the warp was not as dangerous to them as it became the moment Slaanesh was born.

>>715156404
I would like necrons a lot more if 99,9% of them weren't less sapient than servitors.

>>715156074
They';re announcing something? Sauce?

>>715156665
>Nigger, slaanesh wasn't a fucking thing for the pre-fall eldar.
Wrong.

>>715156731
No, you are fucking wrong. Read Eldar codexes, any of them will do because this is Eldar lore 101.

>>715156665
>Before that event, Slaanesh did not fucking exist, and did not prey on Eldar souls
If we want to get technical; Due to the nature of Chaos, Slaanesh has always existed, and the Fall of the Eldar and Birth of Slaanesh was him manufacturing his own breach into reality.
Remember; Chaos is allowed to be as bullshit stupid as it wants because they're a pet faction for some of the writers.

>>715156594
>>Eldrad went back to Ulthwe, where he wasn't exactly welcomed but they couldn't turn him away
>>Jain Zar left and is currently searching for alternate ways to prevent the Rhana Dandra
>>Iyanna Arienal is now looking for the Tears of Morai-Heg again, having grown disillusioned with Yvraine and the Ynnari
>>Yriel returned to Iyanden and appears to have taken up piracy again since the Spear of Twilight is no longer killing him
So they still doing Ynnead bidding by helping Imperium instead of standing on their own.

>>715156791
Yes, but at the same time, before that event, for the pre-fall eldar, warp existed in a state where Slaanesh was not a thing. The pre-fall eldar were capable of reincarnating and using psychic powers without warding themselves via runes etc because their souls were not preyed upon by slaanesh before the fall and the birth of Slaanesh occurred.

>>715156829
How on God's green Earth did youever come to that conclusion?

>>715156780
Time is not linear in the warp.
And Ynnari literally met Slaanesh Demon-Prince who was pre-Fall Eldar.

Chaos giving birth to itself is so Chaos.
>Slaanesh makes space elves so horny it's only natural their degeneracy would let Slaanesh be born.
Necrons would never do such obscene things with their efficient metal rods.

>>715156904
Isn't it evident that he is just some imperiumfag salty about the Eldar for some asinine reason.

>>715156904
>How on God's green Earth did youever come to that conclusion?
Pic was very much related as it's been last Eldar appearance in the lore. where they send aid to Imperium against Abbadon and Vashtorr only to be slaughtered by Black Legion and Inquisition.

>>715154798
Well, killing the Farseer wouldn't bring back the battlebrother they killed in front of him in the previous panels
He also already hates Eldar due to losing more battlebrothers to their trickery when he trusted them in his backstory

>>715156936
I know that time isn't linear for the warp however Eldar lore states that before the birth of slaanesh, the warp did not prey on their souls, that they could reincarnate and so on. It is more like the birth of slaanesh "retconned" slaanesh to have always existed retroactively or something.

>And Ynnari literally met Slaanesh Demon-Prince who was pre-Fall Eldar.
So? There are chaos eldar, that isn't news, they just have very minor lore and tabletop presence. It makes sense that the first champions of Slaanesh would have been eldar pleasure cultists that she who thirsts favored so greatly that she did not devour their souls.

>>715156901
>for the pre-fall eldar, warp existed in a state where Slaanesh was not a thing
Again, technically, no. Daemonettes existeed during the War in Heaven which actually led to truces and alliances between Eldar and Necrons from time to time.
This means that Slaanesh (and for that matter the other Chaos Gods) were active during the War In Heaven. This is compounded by the recently revealed fact that Vashtorr also predates the War In Heaven and considers the Necrons and Old Ones to have been little more than children.
If you think it's dumb then you're absolutely right, GW just realpy loves jacking Chaos off at the expense of everyone else who isn't the Imperium.

>>715157136
That is news to me and it sounds fucking retarded. I never read any of the vashtor lore because I generally disregard chaos stuff as I don't collect them (besides some death guard lads due to their models looking neat). GW really ought to tone down the chaos wank.

>>715156997
>Pic was very much related as it's been last Eldar appearance in the lore
No it fucking wasn't. Eldritch Omens was about Black Legion attacking an Exodite world that had emerged from the Great Rift, with Abaddon wanting to wipe it out and build a fortress there while Saim Hann was there to protect the Exodites who had survived under a big psychic shield. Both forces destroyed each other and the Exodites were able to survive.
The Imperium wasn't even involved in the slightest.

>>715157078
>So?
So they found it in a tomb sealed since War on Heaven, you dimwit.

>>715152025
Currently using her on this run as Pasqal's replacement.

>>715156062
White is a bitch color to work with unless you use it as a basecoat from the getgo.

>>715152025
Jae is based and necessary due to serving as the containment for all the r*ddit shit that would otherwise be smeared all across the game. Like a dish sponge, she absorbed all of it and now lies out of sight under the sink.

She's a living R*dditeract Vault.

>>715157259
>Eldritch Omens was about Black Legion attacking an Exodite world that had emerged from the Great Rift,
As part of Arks of Omen plotline.

>>715156594
Yvraine becoming the 40k equivalent of al-qaeda is pretty great

>>715157226
Yeah Vashtorr is literally just a vehicle for them to shove Chaos into more stuff.
For example; in the Pariah Nexus (where Daemons literally get frozen in place and are unable to move or think), the AdMech and Necrons threw a bunch of superweapons at each other. Because of all the tech going off, Vashtorr popped back into reality there and immediately turned oje of the Blackstone Pylons into a Warp generator. He is now a bigger threat in the Pariah Nexus than the fucking Silent King is.

>>715157316
No, it wasn't. Eldar weren't involved in Arks of Omen at all outside of a group of diplomats going to warn Coteaz that there was deeper shit going on than just Abaddon grabbing a new fleet.
In fact it's noted that Coteaz showed a rare moment of leniency and even allowed the diplomats to leave alive afterwards.

>>715157264
Was that in this book>>715156936 because if so, lmao, thorpe is a god damn retard. Boy am I glad I never read any of the ynnari books because the fracture of biel tan supplement was such trash that it permanently made me dislike the ynnari.

>>715157473
>No, it wasn't.
Nice denial

>playing unfair act 1
>everyone is a permatrauma'd cripple
Am I supposed to just waltz around with every limb broken all the time or am I doing something wrong? Combat's easy enough but there's just no way to avoid those fat injuring hits, save for Abelard facetanking shit with deflection and fake hp.

>>715157610
Your concession is noted.

>>715157303
literally the nenio of rogue trader

>>715157832
>battle described as part of Black Legion advance
>not part of Arks of Omen

>>715158014
Eldritch Omens released in early 2022
Arks of Omen released in early 2023.
There was no connection between them lore-wise.

>>715156120
Well, he better. His house lives or dies by my generous grace. If he gave me any lip, his incompetent family would have being eaten alive by the other aristocrats in my home planet ages ago.

>>715097123 (OP)
they turned warhammer into nortubel tier shit

>>715157787
You're supposed to backtrack to your ship constantly

>>715157787
>Wtf Unfair is unfair??
Anon?

are build still impossible, since you unlock everything levelling a class?

>>715158516
The implication that Abelard owes the Rogue Trader his undying loyalty is a shaky one at best. Just because he’s a lifelong military man doesn’t mean he should be a complete kiss-ass
He’s literally Gary Stu but as a secondary

>>715139364
Because battlefield gothic 2 is different. It's about the fall of cadia, the one event that changed the status quo. Rogue Trader is about a buncg of literally whos in the bumfuckwhere doing some irrelevant busywork. And no, a chained ctan will never be canon

>>715141000
It's neofeudalism.

>>715097123 (OP)
Did the new patch provide buffs for the new class? I found most of the the stuff you could get for them to be pretty underwhelming.

>>715142214
It's a stupid quest that they still haven't fixed

>>715152139
>launch game
>press button
>win
>close game
waow

Why did they do it?

>>715160951
Yes, Skull is godly now with Officer
Raven has always been OP
Eagle has always had obscene damage
Dog is the shitto one

>>715156160
Wow. It's fucking nothing. When are they firing their marketing department already? Those guys are so fucking bad at it

>>715156936
What the fuck is happening with the bitch in the front lmao

>>715161141
Hmm. Should I try an officer servoskull MC next playthrough I guess? Doing a pyro with the raven, and finding it okay, not great. I mean, its great, but the raven doesnt add MUCH beyond AOE buffing toughness etc.

>>715161520
Pyro isn't the build for the Raven. It's focused on buffing so you want to be a biomancer/diviner for optimal buffs.

>>715161115
starting to hate owlcat bros...

>>715161115
So if the ritual affected her like that (did it? I don't remember the game ever implying it) then why didn't it affect you?

>>715162171
RT has big dick energy

>>715162171
The actual reason is that the unironically did nothing wrong and didn't deserve to die so of course Owlcat killed her

>>715162171
You're a very special oc donut steel mommy's boy

>>715162723
Areelu strikes again

Can I have a QRD of the classes? Playing for the first time and they seem neat, especially Noble.

>>715163272
Noble isn't a class. It's a background. Background don't really affect your character much. They determine the basic outfit of your character and give you a single skill you can use as well as a couple of talents you can take when you level up, but they won't affect the way you play the game. Noble is one of the better backgrounds

>>715161520
Raven is best for mass Psy buffing
It also has the highest attack/round potential with offensive Psyker though: Strategic Adaptation has great Extra Turn cheese synergy, plus the Raven offensive powers, even if the damage won't ever be as high as Master Tact
Skullchads can now spread Focus! & Personal Oversight together with Voice of Command + Air of Authority etc.party wide which is really good
Skull also seems to have better reaction, it gives you an item that increases

>>715163272
It's weird because some of classes are in archetypes and some are in origins.
Basically warrior = tank/melee dps, soldier = ranged dps, operative = rogue, blade dancer = dex melee.
Psyker origin = cleric\wizard.
Arbites = shotgun or melee focused.
Rest of origins matter very little.

>>715163831
>>715163951
Ah, got it, thanks. Also thinking of Sanctioned Psyker, Sanctic seems fun for loyal Emperorfag roleplaying.

>>715163272
tldr
Psyker is strongest most versatile background for everything
Warrior is best for melee
Soldier is best for all ranged (Burst, Shotguns, Flamer, Melta) including spells
Officer is best for buffing allies AND can also deal great damage if Psyker background, and the buffs ARE that good
Operative I wouldn't recommend for a beginner
If you want something fun and simple and fast even early, go Soldier Pyromancer Psyker, you can use your Run and Gun ability to cast spells 2x/turn and later get Firestorm power at level 6 for great AoE potential, just maxx Willpower stat
You can also do Ignite (your main spell that makes enemies burn), activate Run and Gun for another cast on the same turn, then go for Firestorm on the enemy you cast Ignite to explode all enemies on the AoE (since it can only be cast on a burning target first)
Combine that with Backdraft + Psychic Barrage talents and you're golden

>>715164040
Sanctic is very good and has the strongest damage abilty in the game from a Staff in Act 2 that's literally called Emperor's Wrath
Ideally you want to go either Soldier or Officer and start as Pyro then pick Sanctic towards the end of Act 1 ( you can pick other Psyker schools of magic during level up)
Reason is early in Act 1 Sanctic only has a buffing ability, Pyro has damage which is more fun especially with Soldier