>this is the god of death according to china

>mogged by jobitano
lol, by the way, any connection of her eye wings and the shogun statue?

Yes, she killed billions of my sperm

>>715118894 (OP)
Herrscher of the Void?

>>715118894 (OP)
this only got 60m when they used to rake in millions
kekkaroooooooo shoud've made more robot boys and girls in zzz faggots

>ranjit is in here immediately to talk about sales numbers he made up

>>715118894 (OP)
I still have no idea who the fuck any of these characters are and people want me to read through like 300+ hours of side content to understand it. That, plus an additional 70 hours of building a database of proper nouns because it's not enough to call someone a god, they have to be the Progenitor of Wisdom Incarnate or Left Hand of Arbiter.
Nod Krai better start hitting the ground running or it will kill any interest I had in it. Seriously chinks just don't know how to write concise stories and the technobabble exposition format is awful.

>>715119976
you seem like a retard, most of this shit has been shown to you in game, without ever having to search something out to read

EoS EoS

>>715121358
>here is the god of space and time Mukvlad Hizturnag or some other dipshit name that is impossible to remember
>there is no picture or image of said character
>this character is really important
>we will only mention it in a world quest that's tucked away in some fucked up corner of the map after you unlock a cave entrance that only opens on Thursdays
>no attachment can ever be made with abstract concepts because they aren't utilized in any meaningful way and they're never present in the story beyond vague mentions and imagery through flavor text
If it's not in the main quest, it doesn't matter. I'm sorry, but the chinese cannot make memorable stories because their storytelling presentation is inherently flawed. It's all bloat. I spent 2000 hours learning nip moonrunes looking up every third word in a shitty harem visual novel, and that experience was still more digestible than anything hoyoverse games have put out in my own native language of English.
It's fucking awful. Their localization and translation teams are 1000% fleecing the shit out of them otherwise. Have you even seen the skill descriptions in genshin lately? It's an incomprehensible mess of words.

>>715122532
>here is the god of space and time Mukvlad Hizturnag or some other dipshit name that is impossible to remember

space god is literally the first person we see in the opening cinematic to the game and the god of time has been mentioned in the main story multiple times

are you pretending to be a retard?

>>715122532
I love these kinds of lore games where you have to autistically put together 15 clues from 12 different sources to figure it out. Sounds like you're just a brainlet, and possibly a faggot.
The main story is always shit btw, it's made for social media engagement farming. If you want REAL kino you actually to find it and not just led daddy hoyo spoonfeed you.

>>715123383
I'm exaggerating for the purposes of hyperbole you stupid fuck. Maybe if you could look past the terminology and actually refute the fact that genshin's storytelling is obtuse and needlessly wordy, you could actually understand the point I'm making.
>>715123684
The problem is that genshin is a visual novel that never utilizes the visual aspect of it, and novel part isn't even than strong either. The main story is reading through wordslop and then you have to read more on top to actually get to the good parts. It's just garbage pacing. Even the worst and slowest parts of muvluv are more enjoyable to get through than genshin.
Besides it's a casual game. You can't expect the average person to want to read an over 2 million character script. Like fucking jesus, you guys will do anything to pin it on anything but the actual formatting of the storytelling.

>>715118894 (OP)
I bet she killed trillions already

>>715118894 (OP)
In Chinese mythology the ruler of death always takes his job seriously. So it makes sense.

>>715119135
I have heard some people say theorize that Raiden idolized or fears Ronova because death is essentially is the ultimate form of Eternity. We always thought Raiden was a bad Ruler for allowing so much death to happen and rhat Kokomi was insane for becoming buddy buddy with the Shogunate after the war. However, if we look at it a different way, death being the ultimate eternity might be considered an honor among Inazumans. The Inuzamans could possibly all be naturalized into accepting Ronova's reign as law so death becomes something common, casual, and accepted no matter how cruel it seems. It could also be Mihoyo ans the Chinese government's way of stealthily insulting the Japanese Samurai's motto of "honor in death" philosophy by making the island based on Japan into worshipping death. There is a weird amount of layers to this whole thing with Ronova and Inazuma. I hope we get a more clear explanation in the future.

>>715125427
>It could also be Mihoyo ans the Chinese government's way of stealthily insulting the Japanese Samurai's motto of "honor in death" philosophy by making the island based on Japan into worshipping death
I mean in 1984, Eurasia and Oceania are communist while the ideology of Eastasia (based on the Japanese empire) was death worship. Orwell knew what he was doing.

>>715125427
I still subscribe to the theory that Ei is the Electro Sovereign

>>715125427
>Kokomi was a fucking death fanatic
I am never going to look at that fish the same way again...

>>715119517
>60m
>Used to take in millions
Is.. 60 million not millions?

>>715126242
Cut him some slack. Indians count in lakhs and crores instead of millions and billions.

>>715125902
kokolove

>>715127407

why do i keep seeing i need to pull for shorekeeper? she's not on any banner, how tf am I supposed to pull for her

>>715128016

>>715127407
Haha
Yeah

If I remember correct, Ei died once and was revived by her sister. Maybe Baal made a deal with Ronova to bring Ei back to life, and that's why she had to get herself killed in Khaenriah.

>>715118894 (OP)
why is she fondling herself?

>>715130120
why arent you?

>>715118894 (OP)
I'd stare

>>715133130

>>715118894 (OP)
Don't care. 'bina game.

>>715118894 (OP)
Wait'll you see Death according to a male feminist

>>715118894 (OP)
Wow, she looks like she could immediately fall in love with a charismatic-vacuum twink we conveniently happen to be playing as.

>>715118894 (OP)
kys slopper

>>715133381
so the glitching, did hoyo give that idea for the fan video or did hoyo borrow that from the fan video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf80lpl9AyU

>>715118894 (OP)
Goes with Morrigan and Ereshkigal.

>>715118894 (OP)
rape

Istaroth's femboy feet in my mouth.

>>715133381
>not barefoot
ruined

>>715133859
Based and slipperypilled. Slopperbro stay winning.

>>715129392
haha

>>715141314
Imagine the smell in Kokomin's gooncave.

Istaroth created Barbatos, helped Aberaku create the artificial sun in Enkanomiya, helped Ei and Makoto plant the Sacred Sakura
Ronova helped Xabalanque established Natlan's rule and the Night kingdom, cursed pure blooded Khaenriahns with immortality, conceded and had to accept Capitano's deal
Naberius created Egeria, and some other elemental beings maybe?
Asmoday defeated the twin travelers and separated them, then betrayed the HP

>>715141946
smells fishy

>>715118894 (OP)

>>715119976
>I still have no idea who the fuck any of these characters are
I do. My lorefag stocks are paying off massively.

>>715144802
The death hoe everyone knows because she was just mentioned in main quest. The homunculus hoe everyone knows because of Al pedo. The life hoe is her twin I suppose. Who's the time hoe though
>inb4 headcanon

>>715140061
she has to be playable, pls understand

>>715134404
Arlecchino also had a glitchy effect and she released before that video. It seems glitching out is an effect of being associated with the Three Moons in some way. And with lore leaks saying one of the moons crashed into Nod Krai, Columbina probably has some sort of lunar powers.
I fear they won't make Columbina schizopilled enough, they'll dango milk her

>>715144891
Time hoe (male) is namedropped a few times in Enkanomiya and I Ei's quests I think.

>>715144891
life hoe is furina's grandma which was keked by homunculus hoe and now they're split personality hoe
time hoe is either venti's mother or he's a fragment of her
the 4th one you're missing is space hoe which is from the intro

>>715144985
she definitely won't be the BPD gf everyone wants
unless it's part of her gameplay mechanics, maybe?

>>715144891
>Who's the time hoe though
Istaroth? Before Ronova got top billing in Natlan, she was the one who had had the most appearances in the game starting from 1.0 even, the thousand winds of time.
>Seeds of stories, brought by the wind and cultivated by time.
She spoke in a bunch of quests too. The one that was sort of an asspull was Naberius, we knew that name since 1.X and that Rhinedottir had found her phylactery, but her possessing her was only told in a throwaway line in a recent main quest.

who looks at this and says "demure and full body stocking"

>>715145204
Chinx

>>715145158
>she definitely won't be the BPD gf everyone wants
Thermonuclear phlogiston take but they shouldn't give her any "gf" content at all, doesn't seem like the type of being you'd drag into festivals. Just from the way she was reacting to the very concrete events in Lazzo you could tell she's meant to be detached from human reality.

>>715118894 (OP)
You niggas are lusting to ronova, I lust at venti mom

for some reason I thought Rhine/Naberius's hood looked exactly like the one on the welkin but it doesn't at all wtf

>>715146160
That's one of the moon sisters most likely.

>>715145751
>mom
That's a man.

The cycle of seven must be removed, because the secret narrative will be blocked.

Fear and grief must be torn down, and so the barrier between life and death must be removed.

Remove the sun, the moons, and weight, for there should be no barriers between time and space.

Remove the original principles of rules, verdicts, and grace, so that she will no longer be afraid of the punishment that is laid on her kin.

Remove birds, beasts, fish, dragons, humans, and seven monk-kings, so that none shall steal wisdom.

>>715118894 (OP)
>god of death looks like an extremely fertile female with lots of milk to help a baby grow, logically a symbol of life
Not a single creative bone in their body

>>715146424
we're definitely getting something on her in nod krai, hence the whole "song of the welkin moon" tag line

>>715146791
Why did he do it bros

TOTAL GOD DEATH
ARCHON WAR NOW

>>715146984
Nabu Seele pussy so good it made him achieve gnosis.

>>715146984
need rukka gf

>>715145751
Same

>>715147159
Just wait a few thousand years for Nahida to grow

>>715133130
He likes to watch.

>>715145204
Yeah I wanted a goth girl death.

>>715145204
The demure is the part that annoys me. She's a higher god who thinks she can't even die, why the fuck would she be demure?

One thing classical civilizations got right was that when the gods are basically humans with superpowers, they're all massive assholes.

>>715148581
>who thinks she can't even die
FATUI PROPAGANDA, GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>715148581
Because she overstepped her authority helping Xbalanque and was punished by the HP. And now Asmoday has fucked off, Rhinedottir has taken Naberius place, and Istaroth is clearly doesn't care about what's happening. She's pretty much the only loyal shade left and it might be out of fear of another punishment.

>>715149176
Technically Ronova helping Natlan by bending the rules is a good thing because it helps perserve humanity and gives them a chance agianst the abyss. But we really dont know what the HP even want, on the surface it seems like they want to carve out a place for humanity and install archons that love humans enough to protect them but then they punish thier own gods for helping humans

We are all Snezhnayan patriots here.

>>715149454
HP has BPD

>>715149606
why does this look like the interior of a fucking dropship lmao

>>715134404
best scp content I ever saw

>>715149812
It fits the Snez aesthetics honestly.

I'm a complete lorelet, which youtuber do I watch to spoonfeed me the lore?

>>715118894 (OP)
de Deceptive r

>>715124992
does chinese mythology even have a god of death? they have a king of the underworld but he's not the personification of death per se, he's just the manager of the underworld, in a comparison to greek mythology he's like hades, hades is just the manager of the underworld in greek mythology too, the personification of death in greek mythology is thanatos, and I don't recall the chinese having any major deity that fulfills the same function, and ronova is the same as thanatos in this world, she's the personification of the concept of death, she's not the manager of the underworld, taking care of that is the job of the irminsul and to a degree the dendro archon, and in natlan the lord of the night

>>715151010
it's always morally correct to bully jeets into suicide

>>715150865
dunno, I just play the game and talk with anon, maybe reddit is more up your speed

>>715150865
>I'm a complete lorelet, which youtuber do I watch to spoonfeed me the lore?
Ashikai is the only good one

>>715151520
ashikai is the only one who's schizo enough among genshin loretubers tbf

>>715151063
madarchod bich delete this now saar

>>715146998
the gods are right, but they could be a bit more transparent, abyss will turn worlds into nightmarish hellscapes, that's obvious to anyone who ever interacted with the abyss, but the gods just never really tell people about anything, if someone starts using the abyss they get nuked by the gods but it's not like the gods ever just hold a psa session that yeah uhhh don't like mess with the abyss because it's ebola cancer okay, thanks, which then just breeds a lot of resentement and confusion

>>715150865
Minsleif cause she's hot.

>>715152295
Shouldn't have killed Nibelung chud.

>>715152557
uhhhh why not, he was a retard, he started using the abyss too and nearly destroyed the entire world, I guess the gods might not want to tell people about the abyss because nibelung knew that the abyss existed and started using it, I guess the gods would prefer if there was just a complete embargo on talking about the abyss but some retards keep leaking it

>>715152742
I'm still a good 60% sure that the big reveal saved for later is that humanity are actually Abyssal creatures and visions are darksigns. We're already Dark Souls, just go balls to the wall.

>>715152892
humans are just humans, but they're not native to teyvat, they were brought there by phanes, who clearly doesn't like the abyss and established the world (7 elements and leylines) to fight against the abyss, ultimately we won't learn what's his deal is until phanes wakes up, but as of now I think the theory is that phanes just a dude, some human from an other world, who's pretty strong, then he came to teyvat, created his 4 shades, dabbed on the dragons, who are the native population of teyvat, then populated the planet with humans while arming them to fight against the abyss, who are probably some sort of cosmic enemies of phanes and whatever place he's originally from

>>715153279
>theory is that phanes just a dude
then why are all the shades of him women? did Phanes have AGP?

>>715153490
he created some waifus for himself RONOVA HAS BEEN CREAMPIED BY PHANES 5 GORILLION TIMES

>>715153279
>>715153490
>>715153579
This is Genshin, Phanes will be a girl and barefoot (important).

>>715152295
PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET NAILED GET NAILED GET NAILED

>>715153490
and Eve was made from Adam

>>715118894 (OP)
She could literally genocide babies or kick puppies or something and I'd still devote my life to worship her as my queen goddess.

>>715153705
this is hoyo, he'll be a dude voiced by hino satoshi and will look like this

>>715119135
>>715133130
It's incredibly lame that Pierro's backstory is the same as Capitano's. Capitano has the vastly superior design and he was thrown away by the story.

>>715153490
Phanes was described as androgynous before the creation of the Shades. The theory would be that they separated their femininity from themself to create Death, Life, Time and Space and was left with masculinity and Reason.

>>715154171
>same backstory
worng
Pierro was a royal mage who know about the danger of what the Sinners and Irmin wanted to do and tried to stop it
Capitano didnt know shit until they got nuked

>>715153961
>genocide babies
she already have, but they deserve it, they could've grown up to be terrorists I mean abyss worshippers

>>715154030
Circle of Logos looks like THAT?!?!?!

>>715154320
They're both tall dark and brooding male commanders from Khanria who were cursed with immortality. It's the same backstory.

>>715154185
>left with masculinity and Reason.
Did Surtalogi eat the Heavenly Principles like Rhinedottir ate Naberius?

Pick em /v/, who to fuck, marry, bully, kill?

>>715154648
Seeing them all together really accentuates how boring their designs are. Arr rook same.

Isn't she pretty much the villain of the world at this point

>>715154720
why did she do it though

>>715118894 (OP)
Did they add a skip button like in ZZZ/HSR? I don't care about mandatory quests I just wanna do overworld shit.

>>715154720
she's just one curious buckaroo

>>715154817
woman moment

>>715154817

>>715154720
Nope. She's a cute blonde girl. Anything you might think she's done wrong was actually for the greater good with the best of intentions and it'll turn out sweet and caring.

>>715154821
I just put on something to watch on the second monitor and have genshin at 5% volume, vaguely keeping an eye on it so I see when they stop yapping

>>715154648
kill Rhinedottir, fuck Asmodeus marry Ronova

>>715154720
See that mountain? You can climb it and find one of her many abyss eldritch horror creations.

>>715154879
I think they're just going with the same theme as yaoshi in star rail, she's not good or bad per se, she just is

>>715119360
Upvoted

>>715118894 (OP)
i wanna do this to her while traveller watches

>>715130120
Because that's what I would do if I was her

>>715121358
>>715123684
These kinds of niggers dedicate their lives to one mid game and expect everyone else to be just as hyperobsessed about shit that doesn't matter/will 10000% get retconned in classic Mihoyo style.
Reminder that somehow Vision users went from rare, exceptional and inherently strong individuals to complete jobbers that can't handle mall cops and then back to being strong and rare. Oh and you used to be unable to get rid of a Vision and then you could give it away but then no one has ever mentioned anything like that ever again since Ayato.

>>715154648
I wanna say kill Ronova just because killing Death would be kino, but no.
Kill that bitch Rhine, bully Istaroth, PLAP Ronova, marry Asmoday.

>>715154985
You can't pull the nebulous motivation entity when she's an actual human with supposedly a critical mind.

So THEY'RE not the Heavenly Principles either? What or who the fuck is the Heavenly Principles

>>715155292
Enkanomiya was 3 years ago anon, just read the damn paragraph.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Before_Sun_and_Moon

>>715155292
HP= Primordial One (Genshin)= the Usurper= the Phanes
Shades= Sustainer of the HP, basically the Phanes created them so they work for him

>>715155227
why not, ruan mei is the same, all 3 of them are just creators of life, not for any benevolent reason, not for any malicious reason, they just create life for the sake of creating life, and whatever happens after is not their problem

>>715155406
Ok and who is or was in Celestia and who created Archons

>>715155406
"genshin" is not phanes, "genshin" is anyone who holds a vision, a "pre god" someone who is qualified to become a god

>>715155406
Why are you calling it "the Phanes" when it's just called "Phanes" in the Sun and Moon book? It's a singular name and adding "the" makes it sound plural.

>>715155391
Uh huh, I see, so fleeting amber was the sun it gazed upon and the will is bound by planetary crust. Well everything is fucking clear to me now

>>715155618
because Im a fraud who only know surface level of the lore kek

>>715154918
Don't have a second monitor so I tab out and forget I even have it running sometimes.

>>715155624
>But when the voyager returned once more, the world she remembered had been utterly changed.
>The bones of the earth had been bound beneath fourfold shackles, and the soft white radiance of the sky had been split into seven immutable hues.
>Like drifting smoke had the lord of dragons vanished, and the Winged One's throne now ruled the radiance of the three moons.
The Winged One AKA Lord of the Firmament AKA Phanes AKA The First Throne of the Heavens AKA The Usurper AKA The All-Plunderer AKA The Circlet of Logos AKA The Order AKA The Master of the Four Shades AKA The Heavenly Principles

>>715154171
Pierro is way cooler than Crapitano tho.

>>715155518
celestia is the floating island in the sky, it's the name of a place, it's where people who ascended to be gods (through visions) in teyvat gather and it's supervised by phanes, it's unclear what actually happens in there and for what reason phanes created it, venti's been there before and said it stinked, and if I had to guess the likely reason is that phanes is collecting soldiers to fight against the abyss or whatever his grander plan is, the seat of archons and the 7 elements were also created by phanes, although I'm also confused on one detail about that, it was said that the original energy in teyvat was phlogiston and it didn't really have any particular qualities to it other than being energy, then phanes took it and shaped it into the 7 elements, so they can be used as anti abyss weapons, abyss is weak against elemental attacks because the elements were created specifically to fight the abyss, but the 7 elements were ruled by 7 dragon kings originally, then phanes replaced them with the 7 archons, which doesn't really add up to me, did phanes create the 7 elements and then put dragons in charge, then changed his mind about dragons later? I'm not sure about that, archons are definitely servants of phanes though, I just don't see why the dragon kings ruled the elements before the archons if the elements were created by phanes in the first place

>>715155808
The same concepts and gods having different names from different cultures in a game is one of my favourite tropes, TES does this well.
Add the Cosmic Egg and the Primordial One to the list.

>>715155292
Big Pappi Phanes.

>>715155904
It turns out that if you assassinate a character hard enough, the sheep fall right in line. Amazing.

>>715154648
Marry Asmoday, get bullied by all of them.

>>715155808
What about him? All that text says is he's not there. Did he turn into moons? That doesn't really make any goddamn sense

>>715154720
She's the villain until we get to the end of the game when she'll step aside for Phanes-Sama.

>>715155943
maybe the elements just existed along side phlogiston but only the 7 dragon lords could use them
or the 7 dragon lords could use the elements by drawing one element each out of phlogistion

>>715155107
/THREAD

>>715156246
the way I interpreted it was that there were no elements before phanes, phanes created it to fight the abyss, but then I don't understand why there were dragon kings in charge of the elements, when phanes and the dragons were enemies, one possible explanation could be that phanes and the dragons were cool at first with each other, but then had a fallout and phanes replaced the dragons with archons

>>715155943
>but the 7 elements were ruled by 7 dragon kings originally, then phanes replaced them with the 7 archons, which doesn't really add up to me, did phanes create the 7 elements and then put dragons in charge, then changed his mind about dragons later?
The elements existed in a primordial form embodied by the seven Sovereign Dragons in early Teyvat before Phanes, but under Nibelung they were attuned in harmony into a single light that shone outwards to the universe. They were hard split by Phanes after his shades shackled the world which broke the harmony.
Also the Archons came later when Phanes established a second tier of god-jannies before fucking off, the original bearers of elemental authority under Phanes were the Angels/Seelies and their respective human Priest-Kings that they would proselytize/manage/brainwash. Only way after the Angels were exterminated by Phanes were the Gnoses created and the Seven established as rulers with the mandate of Heaven.

>>715156687
what was the talk about phlogiston and the elements made to fight the abyss then, I remember the part where they said that the elements are like a white light being separated with a prism, and I figured that phlogiston was that white light, just pure energy, that then got separated into the 7 elements

>>715157234
>and I figured that phlogiston was that white light, just pure energy, that then got separated into the 7 elements
This is correct, phlogiston is just how that primordial element is called in Natlan now. It's also how it can be easily molded into anything or store information, it was essentially the prima materia for the dragons.

>>715156687
Wait, Seelies weren't around during the archon war?

>>715154171
I agree with you but you're getting it backwards. We more or less knew about Pierro's backstory way before Capitano's

>>715157415
yeah but then I don't get the timeline, is it

phlogiston -> dragon kings separate it into early 7 elements -> nibelung turns them back into phlogiston -> phanes separates it into the current 7 elements and specifically to fight the abyss
or
early 7 elements ruled by dragon kings -> nibelung combines them into phlogiston -> phanes separates them back into the 7 selements

>>715157521
there were seelies, they just did fuck all since getting degloved by phanes

>>715157521
If you mean the full form Angel celestial envoys before they got cursed into becoming little blue fairies, then no. The ancient timeline of the world is very vague but this is definitely known, because Nabu, Rukkha and Deshret were around for during the archon war, and Nabu was an Angel survivor, so they had been stripped of power and cursed long before that, before the gnoses were made and archons existed.

>>715157614
Nibelung didn't do anything, that's just how Teyvat was when it was created, the seven elements existed in a very primordial form and all mixed together in one bright light (phlogiston) but Phanes firmly separated them from each other.

>>715133529
>Male feminist
I know people use that phrase now, but it's physically impossible.

>>715118894 (OP)
Capitano: I'm going to kill myself to make you go into a 404 state to own you
Ronova weeks latet: Don't care have bigger fish to fry

Oof

>>715118894 (OP)
i thought this cutie was already representing death, now theres two?

>>715153490
kill yourself discord tranny, no one cares about your made up fetish

>>715155943
xenogears...

>Mondstadt
Istaroth
>Inazuma
Istaroth, Ronova
>Fontaine
Naberius
>Natlan
Ronova
>Liyue
???
Which Shade messed with Liyue?

>>715158134
He killed self to save mavuika though

>>715155017
highschool of the dead was ahead of its time
crazy how it disappeared so quickly

>>715158356
Asmoday because cubes.

>>715157838
so, what you're saying is that the teyvat originally wasn't any different from other worlds, there was just "pure energy" (phlogiston), no elemental slimes or other elemental creatures, spirits, or anything like that, but there were dragons who could separate a specific element from the phlogiston and use them separately, then phanes stole that power from the dragon sovereigns and basically reformed the entire world with it, separating basically all the phlogiston in teyvat into elemental energies, which then gave birth to slimes and elemental creatures, like what most archons are, spirits made up of elemental energy, there's still some phlogiston left in natlan but in the rest of teyvat all phlogiston has been turned into elemental energy

>>715157838
>the seven elements existed in a very primordial form and all mixed together in one bright light (phlogiston) but Phanes firmly separated them from each other.
>"The Primordial One may have been Phanes. It had wings and a crown, and was birthed from an egg, androgynous in nature. But for the world to be created, the egg's shell had to be broken. However, Phanes, the Primordial One, used the eggshell to separate the "universe" and the "microcosm of the world."
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>715158563
>It had wings and a crown, and was birthed from an egg, androgynous in nature. But for the world to be created, the egg's shell had to be broken. However, Phanes, the Primordial One, used the eggshell to separate the "universe" and the "microcosm of the world."
that's a reference to one of the many chinese origin myths, where a dude broke through his egg and held the top half, which became the sky, and stood on the bottom half, which became the earth, separating them forever

>>715158359
Saving Mav was an afterthought after he allied himself with her. His first and foremost big plan was to free the kaenrhian souls he stored inside of him and force Ronova into reconsidering the rules of the heavenly principles. Also it's kind of ironic considerimg she pissed off HP in the first place for making the deal with xbalanque.

>>715118894 (OP)
she looks like a nortubel character

>>715151012
Look up the Heibai Wuchang. Any time you see two spirits chasing a ghost or character in Chinese shit, it's supposed to be these weirdo motherfuckers.
Identity-V, that DBD gook shit, has a Hunter who directly references this idea and is the most blatant about it.

>>715158563
that's disinformation because celestia didn't want people to know that teyvat existed before phanes, and said that phanes was the creator of teyvat, and they sperged out and nuked people if they realised that teyvat existed before phanes, this is another thing that makes this lore even more confusing, a lot of lore that you get in the game is fake news and you have to be able to tell what is propaganda and what is real canon

>>715118894 (OP)
Why is AI still having so much trouble keeping track of how many fingers a hand is supposed to have?

>>715159038
phanes is yaldabaoth the world is fake

>>715158985
these two seem to just be henchmen of king yama though, they are not "death" they are just goons of the ruler of the underworld

>>715158525
Pretty much. Primordial Teyvat aka the Vishap Realm aka the Light Realm was formless light and elemental energy inhabited by the dragons over the Primordial Sea, the material world accommodating for humans to inhabit was formed by Phanes after usurping control over the element of creation/phlogiston.

Although with it also came the power to create life, as the dragons were capable of creating non-human life from within their own essence (Apep, the Hydro Dragon and the Primordial Sea etc.) and after Phanes took control it was prohibited to create life outside the grand plan of himself and his Shades, and those that did were punished (Egeria for making Oceanids, and the First Angel for creating the Snowland Fae in Nod Krai)

>>715159103
yaldabaoth did create the material universe though, the material universe is just not the real universe

>>715144592
No fucking way

>>715159103
>phanes is yaldabaoth
YHWH BROS EXPLAIN???

>>715159240
phanes did too everything else is a lie

>>715159346
he didn't create the material universe, he's just some ayy lmao who usurped a world from it's native inhabitants

>>715154691
4 entities that are all offshoots of the same being look the same, shocking.

>>715154720
Knowing Hoyo she's
>strife breeds evolution
>a... Genshin Impact... if you will

>>715154720
So this is supposed to be Rheindottir's canon appearance, right? It's Naberius sloshing around in her body, not the other way around
Since original Naberius looked different.

>>715158356
also Ronova because all the shit with Hu Tao and the Wall or whatever the fuck happened with the dead

>>715159175
They are literally the embodiment of death anon
They're the grim reaper dragging you to Yama for processing. One just makes it a pleasant experience, the other makes you suffer.

>>715154720
All hexenzirkel witches are morally bankrupt cunts with a le quirky demeanor and large death tolls. But apparently they also helped us alot so win-win I guess?

>>715154720
bitch get in line

>>715159181
I thought egeria was punished for turning oceanids into humans, not for creating oceanids per se, but phanes definitely seems autistic about people meddling with his stuff, I guess one thing I'm wondering about at this point is if the ayy lmaos like phanes and the traveler arrived in teyvat by just traveling through space, like teyvat is just a planet and they just flew there, or if it's a different parallel universe and they crossed into a different universe, I think it sounds more plausible that teyvat is just a planet and the ayy lmaos just flew there on spaceships but then it makes me wonder how alice is traveling between worls, ain't no way she has spaceships, it has to be through magic, but then is she teleporting around space or is she crossing between parallel worlds

>>715159979
hmmmmmmmmmm maybe not "literally" but more "figuratively", thanatos and ronova are death, they are the concept of death, these two blokes are just jannies working for king yama to drag souls into the underworld, like it doesn't need to be these two, yama could appoint any two blokes working for him to go and be soul jannies

>>715160018
>I thought egeria was punished for turning oceanids into humans, not for creating oceanids per se
Correct but the point still stands
>I think it sounds more plausible that teyvat is just a planet and the ayy lmaos just flew there on spaceships but then it makes me wonder how alice is traveling between worls, ain't no way she has spaceships, it has to be through magic, but then is she teleporting around space or is she crossing between parallel worlds
I like to think that we're playing by Warhammer Fantasy rules, where the ayyylmao lizards have spaceships but they look like ancient stone temples and shit and powered by magic.
We literally did get Old Ones spaceships in Natlan with the dragon temples.

>>715160183
fucking hate these french pyramid guys

>>715160018
Skirk and Surtalogi travel to different worlds using the abyss as a connecting tunnel. Alice could do the same or she might have a different route that accomplishes the same effect.

>>715160183
>>715160338
I mean we're definitely in the hoyo multiverse I'm just guessing that if alice and the traveler hopping between worlds means that in the genshin universe you can hop between different worlds or they're hopping from the star rail universe to the zzz universe

>>715160402
Hollows are pretty much a different form of honkai so there’s no reason ZZZ can’t exist somewhere in the tree or in the quantum sea.

>>715159991
Get a non NPC redesign first then we talk chump

>>715159981
a moral wizard is an oxymoron, afterall

>>715160402
>I mean we're definitely in the hoyo multiverse
Questionable. Genshin is repeatedly shown as separate from the Honkai universe games in presentations and such, and won't be a part of their crossover Pokemon game. So far there's only aesthetic parallels at best.

>>715160534
might as well throw in a better voice
like what the fuck, he sounds like some dude kek

>>715160621
Otto in HI3 was using tech to observe other worlds on the tree. One of the worlds he observed was Teyvat.

>>715159862
It's probably a mix of the two.

>>715159862
The hair looks similar enough so it's probably a mix

>>715160501
yeah I'm just like wondering if teyvat is an entire universe, like the entire star rail universe, or it's just a planet inside the genshin universe, the spaceship would indicate that teyvat is just a planet, and maybe the abyss is like the warp in warhammer, and you can use it to travel large distances in a short time
>>715160621
there's stuff from teyvat on herta's space station, granted it could just be a "it looks like it's from teyvat but it actually isn't it just looks the same XD" kind of deal

>>715160995
apparently Alice straight up knows about shit from "Earth", so I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or more characters that can just cross over

>>715161179
you mean idols and rock music? I mean those sort of things exist in star rail and zzz too, she could get it from any planet that has a modern society

>>715161368
Well she also specifically collected KFC.

>>715161586
I mean the whole kfc thing was a meme with cross promotion, if we go into that then we have to acknowledge that the horizon zero dawn universe is canon in genshin, do you want to open that can of worms?

>>715161743
But the KFC promotion collab actually included text and stuff from Alice talking to Klee and telling her stories. It’s a bit different than Aloy just being tossed in with nothing.

>>715161743
What can of worms? Sony paid for console exclusivity for the first 2 years and forced their california gay mascot on mihoyo. Nobody even cares about zero downs lore aside from faggots

>>715161743
>horizon zero dawn universe is canon in genshin
no...

>>715118894 (OP)
Why is she holding her boobie like that?

>>715161743
Colonel Sanders is the most POWERFUL creature in Genshin and that's CANON.

>>715162332
>the forced Aloy crossover character specifically doesn't have a constellation
>they explicitly never added one to this day
>therefore she is not of the world
>so it's non canon
There you go.

>>715162672
the sky is fake anyways, it doesn't matter

SEX WITH SKIRK

>>715162154
>what can of worms
>writes an essay
KEK

>>715162992
>essay
that's 2 sentences gng :rose: :skull: :rose:

>>715154030
100%

>Rheindottir isn't a titty monster anymore

I'm so disappointed

>>715144985
Columbina is the Seelie moon god. Thats why the Fatui trying to find her before the Frost Moon Scions awaken her and probably break the rurus so Ronova has a reason to strike down

>>715163598
what's this from?

>>715163659
What do you mean by "Seele moon god"?
There's the three Moon Sisters, of which one is apparently still alive, then there's the First Angel, who is most likely dead.

>One of the Harbringes go out of their way to cause troubly making all the Harbingers go and get her
Tsaritsa must be pretty fucking tired of this

>>715163919
Tsaritsa specifically chose to give them all autonomy as long as they follow the overall goal of the organization. I don’t think she herself gives a damn. It’s more something Pierro as the actual one running the Fatui has to care about.

I believe in the Ark theory

>>715163598
Naberius was a flatty, so they're equaling out

>>715118894 (OP)
I'm not seeing the problem.

Tsaritsa is a hag.

Started out 5.0. Having a blast!
Ronova when? She is so cute!

>>715164987
she only shows up at the end

>>715164962
the gap moe would be better if she was a smaller girl

>>715165149
Oh I actually already played Natlan.
I was asking more for ETA on the banner?
Like a few years from now on?

>>715165317
what makes you think she will be playable?

>>715165173
>muh gap moe doe
Nah, fuck off weeb. By that logic nobody should ever be imposing or serious because they just need to be quirk chungus moeblob girlfailures.

>>715165317
I have doubts that the shades will be playable but who knows maybe if hoyo is really desperate for money

>>715165317
>I was asking more for ETA on the banner?
Today I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVnfjTVZrWY

>>715165407
>>715165456
??????
What's the point of a body stocking hot girl character if not playable????
I have Skirk and Mavuika and Xilonen NA d Citlali so I'm already sitting pretty with waifus but I thought the point of this game was to churn out more and more waifus?
What do you mean she could be not playable? That's stupid

>>715165438
that's boring and better fit for male characters

>>715165594
Don't you think it would be silly if the literal god of death runs around fighting hilichurls and slimes?

>>715165594
>but I thought the point of this game was to churn out more and more waifus
The point of Genshin is listening to great music while you read scraps of paper and Dark Souls item descriptions.

>>715165594
I mean people expected capitano to be playable too, genshin has a tendency to just kill off characters so I wouldn't get too invested beforehand, just think "if she's playable then that's cool if not then oh well"

>>715163770
what? the event clearly said that all 3 moon sisters were dead, and the new welkin moon would appear

I told them Stygian is shit in today's survey.

>>715165530
one of them is playable
so if we get a playable shade, it will surely be Ronova!

>>715165747
it's silly for archons or skirk to do that, powerlevels are pretty meaningless when it comes to playable characters, somehow a loli catgirl who mixes drinks at a bar is on the same playing field as skirk

>>715165783
>russian woman
>monster
checks out

>>715165594
ask signora waiters lmao

I wonder why they nerfed her so hard

>>715165853
Skirk's lines says that the last moon hasn't faded yet, and there's a story about the moon sisters from the Sumeru spear saying that according to the tale the last sister survived but locked herself away.

>>715165747
I'm already biking around with the Fire Archon (God of War) and beating up Hilichurls on my futuristic motorbike.

>>715165783
Damn she is fine! I would be happy if we got playable Mirror Maiden.

>>715165807
I having a blast regardless. I started 4 years after launch and there is so much content. Feels like it will never end desu. This game is absolutely amazing!

I feel like I would have suffered some junk without the exploration skills of the Natlan characters and without the Encounter point system letting me skip commission but the current state is very good.

It's really hard to play without the Mavuika bike and Xilonen climb and Citlali jump though. I can't imagine manually climbing a mountain....I hope future characters have skills like these. My Skirk team already feels jank without Mavuika and Xilonen...

>>715166067
s-soon... *cough*

>>715166494
she will be revive using the loom of fate trust

>>715166285
I mean older regions are pretty flat, you don't need to climb a lot and new regions have so many gimmicks that traversing them is trivial, you can swap into animals in natlan to fly, climb, swim, do whatever, sumeru is entirely covered in spiderman webs, inazuma also has the electro jumping points, rolling is never necessary with how much gimmicks there are on any given map that let you just bypass obstacles, I've just been using the same hyperbloom team, since like nahida came out but does skirk even want mavuika or xilonen? skirk is a pure hydro cryo reaction character so the premium characters that she wants are furina, shenhe and escoffier

>>715166615
at this point it's pretty obvious
we'll probably get young signora from before she became evil

>>715166852
>young Signora
has a boy friend

>>715166852
don't overdose on that copium

>>715166964
no no, before that happens

>>715166783
Yeah I basically have 2 teams. One is Skirk freeze. The other is Mavuika. Mavuika team has an easier time with exploration than Skirk team. I guess I should make more use of map mechanics.

>>715167034
too weak to fight monsters?
she was saved from a monster attack by him didnt she?

>>715167034
Hebe signora or potato Signora?

>>715167034
lol what would even be the point of that
>you like the big titty fire witch hag whose backstory is that she loved getting dicked down by boyfriend?
>well here you go, you can have her as a 15 years old teenage girl who uses fire magic
what's the point? just release a 15 years old fire mage bitch, why make her young signora specifically

>>715166852
>young signora
>fire instead of ice
>looks completely different
gonna laugh

>>715167109
From what I remember she went to study in Sumeru, then the cataclysm happened and she got the news he died by monsters which prompted her to turn herself into fire and go on a monster burning rampage.

>>715125427
>However, if we look at it a different way, death being the ultimate eternity might be considered an honor among Inazumans. The Inuzamans could possibly all be naturalized into accepting Ronova's reign as law so death becomes something common, casual, and accepted no matter how cruel it seems.
Bro. Ei closed herself off because she was devastated by her sister and all her friends dying

>>715167220
Chinks will literally start skinning cats alive if "used goods" are in the game.

>>715166089
My guess is because to not compete with other past electro and all points out that the next meta in nod krai will be cryo+electro. Think that electro is the most bizarre element when it comes to use so it heavily insists on raiden/yae/fischl always staying as top off fielders forever.

>>715125427
>japs are death worshippers
Makes sense.

>>715167323
I started 5.0 so I don't know much but isn't Alice, Klee's mom? Isn't she the Herta of this game?

>>715167158
at this point i'd be ok with anything

>>715167323
I doubt it, but they'd be less likely to roll, so there would be no point in adding a young signora over just any teenage virgin girl, which obviously leaves us with the obvious question of what they'll do with alice, maybe she just won't be playable, but I think it would make more financial sense for them to make up some cope retcon that klee isn't her daughter in a literal sense! but just like a clone of alice made with magic or something

>>715167637
Alice will probably have a tall hebe model, sort of like Clorinde.

>>715167092
there's also items that you can use to create a wind current and stuff like that, exploration abilities are convenient sometimes but they're never neccessary, I would say that they're a luxury that comes after you already have some teams that can clear content

>>715167860
wut, chlorinde is a cow tits hag, wtf do you mean tall hebe, alice will be a gigahag if they add her, the question is what will they do with her story, releasing her and saying that yeah, she just loves BIG COCKS she's a COCK FIEND and loves GETTING CREAMPIED BY BIG COCKS would be pretty brave and powerful, but I think they'll just go with the "uhh actually she's a pure virgin and alice is like uhh [5000 words wall of text]"

>>715168115
Honestly. Why is it a problem that Alice has a daughter? Isn't a oyakodon a fairly popular thing? How do you think daughters are made? I think recently that Pekomama character got very popular and obvious she got fugged to make her daughter.

Regardless, I think Klee will be a Herta doll type deal desu. Just like Alice is the Herta of this game.

>>715168545
>Honestly. Why is it a problem that Alice has a daughter? Isn't a oyakodon a fairly popular thing? How do you think daughters are made?
Chinks and gooks are subhuman and demand virgin pure woman, japs don't really care.

GIVE ME MORE LITERAL HAGS, DAMN IT

>>715168115
>would be pretty brave and powerful
FGO?

>>715168545
BECAUSE SHE'S NOT A VIRGIN REEEEEEE
I wouldn't personally care but you know how it is, genshin isn't the type of game where you'll be doing date events with a single mom, either they'll keep alice unplayable or they'll make up some cope retcon about klee, and the last interlude chapter makes me think that they'll make her playable at some point, since this time she appeared in person to talk but she appeared as a big dodoco, if she wasn't going to be playable then why not just show her npc model? who cares? this smells like they want to drip market her actual design for the time when she actually comes out as a playable character

>>715118894 (OP)
>>715118894 (OP)
So who would be the god of death of China?

Enma?

>>715168782
fate is based on a light novel that's filled with rape, the entire franchise has a lot darker theme since the get go than genshin, which is zelda for kids

>>715168115
You haven't seen this pic from one of the streams didn't you?
>chlorinde is a cow tits hag
Check the character model compared to other electro hags, she got tits but is shorter than Raiden, Yae, and Beidou. AND I AM COUNTING EVEN THE BIG HAT.
Check her

>>715169007
they're the same, you are aware that genshin has like 5 character models and everything else is just different clothing on them right? there's potato, hebe, adult female, shota and adult male

>>715168816
Alice was in the leaks for version 6.x but I guess we will see. I think she is going to be playable for sure. Herta was really popular in HSR and Alice is basically Red Herta so I think they will capitalise on that.

If the Chinese absolutely demand virginity then it would be easy enough to demote Klee to magical copy status. Thinking about it...I can absolutely understand the appeal of a virgin harem desu...

>>715169318
>you are aware that genshin has like 5 character models and everything else is just different clothing on them right?
Uhm actually Natlan added new models

>>715169454
bless them

>>715169318
Skirk's model is neither hag nor hebe. She's shorter than one and taller than the other.

>>715158356
Liyue has Istaroth's daughter (should be a thread like Venti who's also mentioned as mother/daughter at the same time) who has been there for a while as the horse adeptus appearing in multiple stories (also rumored to be the next Lantern Rite character)

>>715170441
>the horse adeptus
horse pussy when?

>>715154648
Marry Istaroth, fuck Ronova, bully Rhinedottir, kill Asmoday.

if you find some way to seal their power usually anal makes even goddesses cry

>>715170557
6.3 if you go by Shiroha (100% track record in Genshin so far and the best leaker from HSR)

EoS EoS

>>715171163
good morning saar

>>715171091
Madame Ping first.

>>715171163
>EoS for a game making a billion dollars a year

>>715144592
KINO

>>715165906
I haven't done any endgame content for years

>>715171469
You are off by a factor of two possibly three. As of 8 months ago, Genshin had made 5 billion USD in China alone on Mobile only.

>>715165906
filtered lol

>>715165438
>they just need to be quirk chungus moeblob girlfailures.
yes, unironically

>>715168816
>genshin isn't the type of game where you'll be doing date events with a single mom
But ZZZ has a single mom(big sister) you can date [Yanagi], and it's from Hoyoverse

>>715172351
Her kid Soukaku is adopted though.

>>715144592
I knelt

>>715144592
but that's a compass...

>>715172114
I bet you loved Furina

>>715172441
it's still single mom kino material though

>>715154720
God forbid a woman has hobbies

>>715172891
everyone does

>>715172891
Yes, I did! But who wouldn't? really

>>715173037
okay whatever mengele

>>715172684
The Fantastic Compass in the Chasm archon quest can change time. There are a lot of instances in Hoyo's works of clocks and compasses being equivalent. An example is Clockie from HSR, he looks like a clock but is actually a compass. The compass icon is also the location of TIME limited event.

>>715172351
>>715172904
Give me Oni Oyakodon or give me death.

>>715173407
I'll allow it

>>715173407
>The Fantastic Compass in the Chasm archon quest can change time.
Bennetbros, it's our time.

>>715155292
>So THEY'RE not the Heavenly Principles either?

they were always "the sustainer of"

>>715173441
You and me bro

>>715173750
I hate reading

>>715173407
>The Fantastic Compass in the Chasm
oh right... that happened

>>715175313
it was the last time Yelan did anything

Finally dropped this dogshit "game"
lost all of its soul

>>715175467
see you tomorrow

K....KEEP ME POSTED

>>715175467
sure you did rajesh

>>715175561
haven't came back to HSR

>>715175606
i'm whiter than you and my computer is better than yours too
cope harder poorkek

>>715119665
Leave the old man out of this!

>>715175679
why do you type like barry

>>715154720
Name a single evil thing she has done. Just one. I'll wait.

>>715176194
not having sex with me

>>715175679
>HSR
COME BACK, SABER IS HERE
>lost the flip to Gepard
STAY AWAY, STAY AWAY

>>715176194
didn't we JUST deal with one of her fuck ups aka Dragonspine?

>>715176529
is Saber a permanent character or is this her only banner

>>715176529
they did saber and archer too dirty for me to care, especially archer
shit animations overall for both and terrible ingame model for archer

>>715177086
no collab has ever given good characters
they're all soulless cashgrabs

>>715170151
They're just messing with the scales and proportions.

>>715176771
only but the banner lasts like 3 patches

>>715176194
She creates vile evil monsters and then just lets them go because she doesn’t care past the creation process.

Since Ronova cursed the pure blooded Khaenriahns with immortality who was the one that cursed the mixed bloods with the curse of the wild? Was it Naberius since their bodies are now horribly mutated or was it even the heavenly principles herself since their logic and reasoning seem to be nonexistent now?

me seeing a hot sweaty latina mamacita in a full leather bodysuit

>>715149812
i mean humans and phanes did arrive on the planet on as spaceship called "the ark"
fatui seems to have been digging for some old tech, and demiurge/phanes dosnt want humans to leave

>>715154720
shes one of the most "evil" characters in the lore for sure
but seems karma got to her, once she reached the peak of all power she is now bound by the same heavenly rules as others, forced to enforce the rules she wanted to break

>>715184579
I took it as the curse of wilderness is the same as the curse of immortality, only because of the mixed blood that immortality mutated them into hilichurls.

>>715164987
>>715165317
2 years it seems, 2 more regions before celestia
original plan was for 7 years support, but by now they probably have ideas where to take it further

>>715119360
came here to post this

'kino is hotter

>>715125427
Wouldn't it be the opposite? Getting cursed of immortality (but without the Hilichurl curse side effect) would be eternity then.

>>715187851
Curse of Immortality isn’t perfect though. Capitano’s body rotted away despite the immortality. We know that Dain uses abyss magic or something like that to maintain his body. We can assume Pierro is using some other method since I highly doubt he would touch abyssal power.

>>715188652
But that was for punishment while Ei is looking for some sort of blessing. An eternity with people that never age, never gets injured, appearance never change, would fit with what she wanted in her original idea of eternity.

I have demure girlfailure exhaustion.

>>715185483
>i mean humans and phanes did arrive on the planet on as spaceship called "the ark"
And named the planet "X's Ark/Teyvat X".

>>715187516
*ahem*
Sex with this woman.

>>715154821
Ever since you could choose dialogue options with F, I just created a mouse macro that spams F. Not as good as an actual skip button, but it gets the job done to breeze through Fat Xiao's slop.

I don't skip text.

Lumine owes her brother sex.

>>715189262
>woe is me, I am a cute girl
ugh, women

>>715125427
Flower eyes, homa symbol, associated with death

Yep I’m thinking her replacement is hu tao

>>715168545
>Regardless, I think Klee will be a Herta doll type deal desu. Just like Alice is the Herta of this game.

Alice has a husband. Unless that part gets retconned, too, to cater the subhuman bug people and their obsession with virginity.

>>715171469
It just shut down. Are you drunk?

>Natlan so irrelevant it just serves as a giant parking lot for New Khaenriah

>>715189962
once they give us this outfit I will roll for arle

So when is Genslop getting the skip cutscene button?

>>715191876
Never. This is a lorefag thread and we appreciate it here.

>>715191153
As it should be.

>>715191153
NK won't be in natlan because it's full of NIGGERS and NKs hate niggers, the lord of night just let loom use the loom of fate in the night kingdom to make a blueprint of NK's leylines and then she'll look for a place to actually build it

>>715191153
>Natlan
more like "Vacant Lot"

>>715191153
Night Kingdom is my BLACK HOMELAND nigga

>>715192825
big deadly boobies...

>>715192825
The Thousand-Armed Hundred-Eyed God looks like THAT?!?!

>>715118894 (OP)
>>715192825
I want her to fuck me silly then kill me and fuck me silly again for eternity . Then marry of course, me no degenerate.

>>715118894 (OP)
Unsung rr

i dont want a skip button i just want the dialog to be snappier
its fine in zzz

I'm still giggling that they drop shit like this out of the blue

>>715193868
at least they added the keyboard advance feature so I can just press 1 instead of having to reach for the mouse, allowing you to effectively AFK the cutscenes
I just do my nikke dailies on the phone while waiting through the slop lel

>>715193215
>>715193514
>>715193730
Death goddesses look like this?

>>715185727
the curse of wilderness is for traitors, who betrayed the heavenly principles, but khaenriah never worshipped him to begin with so they were cursed with immortality instead, but I dunno if the curse of wilderness is done by ronova or someone else, but since hilichurls are also immortal it's probably also done by ronova, I dunno the logic behind it though, maybe immortality is a lesser punishment than wilderness because wilderness is for traitors who get a more severe punishment?

>>715193848
reminder to kys rajesh
>>715151063

>>715193868
>its fine in zzz
For now. HSR used to be fine too.

I just noticed they added a feature to flash back to info from world quests and randoms scraps of paper from 3 years ago because that information is now necessary.
Autists are winning, it's our time.

>>715191770
sorry wrong picture

>>715190163
why is she so smug

>>715194189
the reason I figured curse of wilderness was just an offshoot of the pure blooded immortality curse is because of that one dude in sumeru who had the mixed blood son that was a hilichurl

>>715194160
body stocking
BODY STOCKING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>>715194982
there's been plenty of people who were turned into hilichurls before khaenriah for betraying the heavenly principles, granted this is more speculation than stuff that was spelled out, it's possible that ronova only cursed pure blooded khaenrians with immortality as a punshment, and becoming a hilichurl has nothing to do with her and is just corruption caused by the abyss, and maybe pure blooded khaenrians have a resistance against the abyss, or the curse of immortality shielded them, because it was never spelled out that the shades or anyone cursed people to be hilichurls, it just so happens that any time there's an outbreak of abyss corruption the people in the area turn into hilichurls, it would also explain why the abyss uses hilichurls as their ground troops, what would be the point of creating hilichurls if they just become the troops of your enemy? it would make more sense if it was the result of abyss corruption rather than something done by ronova, the only thing that ronova explicitly said was that she cursed khaenrians with immortality, she didn't say anything about hilichurls

>>715193868
>stage of grief: acceptance

kek

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xqGHzDErb/

>>715195620
has it been 2 or 3 npcs we've seen both their human and hilichurl side? pretty sure they've all had khaenrian

>>715190936
I don’t think Klee has ever referenced her dad.

To all those who dare not look up to the heavens, Her Majesty the Tsaritsa says this: FUCK THE GODS

>>715195973
Genshin Roblox will be great

>>715195973
kiete shimatta

>>715195973
why would fishpeople need houses like that

Man, Ronova really has fine taste in men.

So the current theory is that the HP only have one nail left, and Pierro is going to force them to use it on Nod Krai. Ronova is getting tricked into intervening.

>>715189262
>>715192825
Why is everyone talking about her tits when she's just a medium sized girl like 50 other in the game?

>>715196738
good catch if that is a nail and more can't be produced

>>715196738
Interesting theory, but aren't the nails specifically for keeping the Abyss out of Teyvat?
Are the Fatui planning to start another Cataclysm when Celestia runs out of Nails?

>>715196738
>Nod Krai is one giant false flag
cryo archon be cookin'

>>715196003
there's been only caribert and caterpillar, and caterpillar was turned into a hilichurl through experiments with abyss energy, so that would further confirm that becoming a hilichurl just means being exposed to abyss energy, and maybe khaenrians don't turn into hilichurls because a) they are naturally resistant to abyss b) the sinners made them resistant to abyss c) ronova's curse of immortality shields them from the abyss

>>715196738
Nice but I think when he reffered to "limits" he meant until HP decides to wake up. After all the video still pretty much confirms it's still sleeping like how Nahida said it back in her AQ.

>>715197094
that time travel girl in natlan that dropped the spaceship key was one too

>>715197094
Pretty sure the curse that turned them into hillichurls was intentional because hillichurls are also basically immortal and it keeps them from tainting the leylines with their deaths.

>>715197626
maybe becoming a hilichurl is just the result of being exposed to the abyss but then they get automatically cursed so they can't go back into the leylines and corrupt the leylines too, maybe being a hilichurls is just having ebola aids and the curse of immortality is just being banned from leylines

>>715197626
I didn't get why
I thought those with the special eyes are all pureblooded?
actually wait, that didn't stop charibert either

>>715198087
having the eyes shows that someone has some khaenriah heritage but it doesn't neccessarily mean that they're pure blooded

>>715197935
granted then that makes the scene in natlan where ronova, the lord of the night and the captain are talking rather odd, the captain should be cursed with immortality so he can't get into the leylines, that's why they weren't allowed in the night kingdom or the any country's leylines, but then he fused with the lord of the night, wouldn't ronova say that hold up captain might be infected with ebola aids so he can't fuse with the lord of night, if the curse of immortality can't be broken, because it's a mechanism to keep abyss infection out of the leylines then why did she just allow the captain to get into a leyline

also if the night kingdom is completely disconnected from the other leylines then does that mean that scara's brainwashing didn't work in natlan? not that it really matters since they've been isolated anyways though

I'm doing the anecdote event right now and I have to ask: how old is Charlotte supposed to be? Because I always thought she was like 18-20 at the very youngest, but she mentions her dad grounding her and sounds like she lives with her parents too, so is she actually like 16 or something?

>>715189531
What?

Not sure whats thats reference to.

>>715187516
great character, great trailer, wasted for a short side story
shame, she had more charisma that most main cast
thena again i guess we will take all harbingers on, before joining the tsaritsa side against the shades

>>715200407
SHE'S 17 YOU SICK FUCK

>>715200407
french girls smell

>>715191153
natlan was just a bad region, despite much higher production values it failed to live up to fontaine story quests or summeru scale
nod krai though seems like pure kino, varka and rest of mondstad cast, harbingers and the blind columbina as the main playable character to join us, will be kino
also the hand holding for world quest in natlan was annoying, the way all fontaine world quests come together was amazing

>>715200407
>a girl can't live with her parents past 18
are you american?

>>715196837
shes big for genshin

>>715197004
i wonder what happened 500 years ago that made her hate celestia so much that she would start a war against other archons
seems a lot of gods and people died before the nails were dropped, maybe she blames HP for inaction or his weakness

>>715201081
Out of 10!

>>715201445
fontaine's aq was ass tho

>>715200407
shes around 20 for sure, her relationship with her parents is comedic for sure
kids in genshin use the kid model, and teens even if looking you are told are underage like fish who is supposed to be 17 if i recall when we meet her

>>715200407

>>715202253
it had its problems, but it had a strong emotional weight, amazing cast and some cool set pieces and unique gameplay mechanics
fontaine most dumb problem was level designers fucking up and making the area rised instead of submerged, how a fuck up of this proportions went through is beyond me

anyway, furina and neuvillette trial is hard to forget
pure pottery that the country gets to live only as long as the people believe in their fake archon, when their faith waivers so is their nation doomed to destruction, such a cool concept

fuck you remember from natlan?

>>715202958
what's the amazing cast? cuz all i can remember is deus ex machinavillette taking all the spotlight from every character

>>715203057
oh youre a neuv seether
say no more

>>715118894 (OP)
It would make sense that the Chinese feel that death is and attractive option.

>>715203376
of course, and i've yet to get strong arguments against why that character is as shilled as he is for how boring he actually is,

but ignoring neuv, what is the amazing cast? arle that did nothing even after getting hyped up by the teaser before 4.0 dropped? navia? clorinde? wriothesley?

>>715203057
taking spotlight? hes literally the center of Egeria plan, she adopts one of the 7 dragons as a child and lets him live with furina for centuries, turning her main enemy in her closest ally, which allows her to save her nation and stick it to heavenly principles, entire story is about him and furina, its great
and story wise every region has main "god" character, nahida, zhongli, venti, and finally neuvillette, the preak in the pattern who isnt an archon

neuvillette was a cool character, loved the scene of him stopping the watersh, forashadowing his final part in the play

>>715203376
are you retarded? dragonwank was fucking unbearable, if it wasn't for lady furiner and the world quest, it'd be the worst region after inazuma

uh oh /vg/ melty...

>>715203694
what does him being the center of some character who existed way before the events of the main story have to do with how overly shilled he is.

let's go through some shit i remember

why does he need to one shot childe and not have clorinde fight him when that was set up as her being the champion duelist

why does he need to to take only interesting scene in the prisonshit arc with them stopping the primordial water when wrio and clorinde were already there

why does he need to save navia from falling and make traveler look like a retard (which might as well be tradition at this point)

why does he need to get the scene with focalors before she died when furina is the one that suffered mentally for 500 years

>>715196738
Anon, the thing has a model in-game and it has more of these.
To say nothing of the fact you see these up close on the login screen (which is Celestia). They're not the pillars of doom built (according to Nahida) to kill civilisation down below.

>>715203939
>why does he need to get the scene with focalors before she died when furina is the one that suffered mentally for 500 years

because furina needed to be alone on the throne crying

focalors sent her a message anyway

>>715203747
>dragoonwank
we dont learn hes a dragon until literally the lasts parts of the region, before that we didnt know why furina made him practically the ruler of fontaine
not to mention dragons supposed to be the original rulers of tayvat, why wouldnt the game wank them?

>>715204213
>because [non-answer]
the message furina literally does not react to nor acknowledge to the point you might as well say she didn't even notice it,

neuvillette is just a parasite to the story

fontaine SUCKS don't you DARE put it on the same level as SOULGODCHADKINOFLAWLESSIMMACULATEmeru, the game was somehow entirely retcon free until fontaine ruined it, dropped the gourmet supremos storyline, and had the worst two acts of an aq in ths game's history

>>715201050
She's the rightful heir to the throne of Khaenri'ah so there is still a chance for more

I hope nod krai expands on all the demon names

>>715204282
because it's bad storytelling, you fat dumpling
>oh no! the fatui boy is causing havoc!
>nevermind, monsieur neuvilette got it
>oh no! the primordial sea is about to flood meropide, we have to do something!
>nevermind, monsieur neuvilette just seals it back no problem, we should stay irrelevant to the main plot
>oh no, the primordial sea finally flooded fontaine and there's an abyssal whale!
>nevermind, monsieur neuvilette got a zenkai boost and denied the holy edict of the heavens and solved everything
every character i sidetracked so he's pushed into the spotlight, dude earns the title of "worse than kazuha"
if anything, natlan was a step in the right direction, too bad about jobitano, though

>>715204467
Dookie hands typed this post

>>715205232

>>715205435

>>715204467
>had the worst two acts of an aq in ths game's history
only prison act was the worst
and it was followed by the best, so it evens out

>>715203939
when is he shilled? in game hes one of many characters we interact at first, but as the story goes on he seems more and more important, while furina seems more and more like a lying fraud
finally arlekino (and us) speculates hes the real archon, not furina, and he reveals himself as a dragon near the end
but the doubt of furinas power is what triggers the destruction of fontaine, since furina is truly their god, as pathetic and weak as she is shes the only thing keeping them alive

>why does he need to one shot childe
Hes the incarnation of hundro, hes supposed to be the most powerfull being outside of celestia.

>why does he need to to take only interesting scene in the prisonshit arc with them stopping the primordial water when wrio and clorinde were already there
To show that humans are no match for the gods. Its a great scene, stop being a fag, i love it, helps build up mystery around neuvillette.

>why does he need to save navia from falling and make traveler look like a retard
Same as above, and despite the traveler being one of the original earthlings like phanes we do not have access to quantum or imaginary anymore, making us basically a kid with some magic powers. A glorified vision user at best.

>why does he need to get the scene with focalors before she died when furina is the one that suffered mentally for 500 years
Since the entire performance was for him? All 500 years of furinas performance was just to make neuvillette "human", so that when judgment came he would not want revenge for his people, but for him to see himself as part of fontaine.
Im legit confused, did you play the game? Neuvillette saves everybody, he decides that Nibelung mission of vengeance has to stop, and that fontaine need to be saved.

Lots of revisionisms here i see.

>>715204189
Lore wise the nails are used to "nail things down" in literal sense, to stop abyss from breaking tayvat apart. And they kill everything is range.
I doubt celestia blockout is final, still 2 years for when it comes out.

>>715205662
>>715205662
>when is he shilled? i
i just gave you 4 examples.

>Hes the incarnation of hundro,
i don't care, this is bad writing used to shll him. if the writer sets up a duel between the champion duelist and childe and then uses the oppurtunity to shill someone else that's a chekov's gun not fired.

>To show that humans are no match for the gods.
the only thing it showed me is that they just had to shill him again after we spent 6 hours in a filler prison arc just for him to come and take the spotlight, again.

>Same as above,
does not explain why traveler does not use his powers in the scene (of which super speed is one of them) to save her, to shill him, again

>Since the entire performance was for him
how does this make any sembkance of sense? focalors' plan hinged on furina just as much and yet the dragon parasite gets a whole scene dedicated to him and focalors while furina cries off-screen.

the only revisionism here is you pretending to be retarded and ignore shit the story had set up prior to shill such a boring character

>>715203872
I just opened the thread and I won't even bother, usually they go for the "mary sue", while also saying how shitty was the prison arc which is quite funny, but being fair, Mihoyo is to blame, his SQ is essential to the AQ
Although these are the same people who say shit such as retcon tree like a bunch of zoomers who never watched MIB

>>715203872
>>715206149
Why are you responding to yourself? And yes, retcon tree is an apt term for the shit the story did with it in 3.3.

>>715204610
what? shes centuries removed, its been 500 years before she was born, shes just another proof why renova and other shades needs to die, they are cruel for no reason
and our sibling is obviously the "princess" of Khaenri'ah, everybody who still lives treats him/her as the heir

>>715206267
>proudly being a retard
two steps away from becoming a local schizo

>>715206149
never thought about MIB in regards to irminsul, I looked at it as more of an elder scrolls softcore zerosum

>>715206351
proofs nothing you dingus

>>715154720
Yeah, but she's probably tragic and misunderstood enough to be an acceptable playable character.

>>715206149
>spoiler
Dude it was a shit lid for a nice story jar and it doesn't help that during sumeru's AQ almost all characters except Nahida and Dehya were empty shells without backstory compared to all other regions Inazuma included.

>>715206434
I think it's a more accessible pop culture from the 00s that most people over a certain age would know and get the basic idea behind it

>>715206439
as if I would go to such extent to prove a retard he's a retard, you sure think highly of your posts

>>715205052
i like it, sue me
it comes together, why furina and neuvillette are so close(she was nothing less than his mother/guardian), why he has so much power, why is he doubting himself .. before he accepts that past is the past, and that his time is over and humans now walk the "earth"
someone had to be maid the "main cast" and furina and dragon fag were the perfect picks, great pair for the end of the world quest

>>715206648
you've been here defending dragon garbage the so you've already proven it to everyone

>>715206536
I also disliked it being tied to the AQ, but I'm not talking about that merit here, just pointing out that some people actually interpreted it as some sort of retcon and use it proudly

>>715206747
as I've said, two steps away from becoming a local schizo
refrain from replying for a bit and consider you're talking to a different anon

>>715206794
it's not a retcon? did i miss the scenario where the hat fag went back to inazuma to pay for his crimes? or when he apologized to sumeru for nearly usurping the archon or apologized to dunya for nearly killing her to power up his mech?

or did the story skip all this and just let him go to toyland to call him a hero?

>>715205435
when will Rana be playable

>>715206982
as you've coped*
and saying /vg/ melty when someone start criticizing fontane's shit aq means you're defending dragon garbage

>>715118894 (OP)
That's not proper milking form.

>>715206712
it could perfectly stand on it's own without having to step all over the rest of the cast,also everyone knew neuv was gonna be a dragon when he leaked
natlan feels like the complete opposite of fontaine in that regard, where mavuika is helped by everybody while they all trust her and you to get the job done, showing how tightly knit the cast is in comparison
>>715206802
cute vaca

>>715207270
sounds like you only hate neuv because he's a male ("worm" in your tongue)

>>715207018
>did i miss the scenario where the hat fag went back to inazuma to pay for his crimes?
why would he need to do that? I mean, his mother, and the one responsible for all of his messes also got away with it and even more

>or when he apologized to sumeru for nearly usurping the archon or apologized to dunya for nearly killing her to power up his mech?
why would he do that? none remembers that, there's literally no point
it is not a retcon because he didn't magically change his past or all his actions as you've mentioned above, everyone that died because of his actions are dead dead, especially those he cared for

you're clearly wishing for something to happen to this specific character, and if it's for some sort of morality, you sure aren't addressing it all

>>715207105
reread my posts and you might stop yourself from becoming a schizo!

>>715207431
and it sound like you love males(dragon) way too much

>>715207542
thanks for proving me right lmao

>>715207586
no problem, just make sure to clean your bad dragon today, it's getting crusty

>>715207447
>why would he need to do that?
Why wouldn't he when he himself said it in his quest? You play the game right?


>the one responsible for all of his messes
How did raiden cause him to massacre 3 clans of the raiden Gokaden? Explain it for us

>why would he do that?
Did he even try to do anything for Dunyazard? He might as well not even know she exists even though she was the impetus for an entire archon quest in 3.0, whose death he nearly caused.

>it's not a retcon
If the story is skipping steps in his redemption to go and call him and hero in 4.8, this is a retcon. Because this cannot happen if the memories of the world of him does not get erased.

No need to run defense for the retcon tree, it's very easy to prove how terrible it was for the story.

>>715118894 (OP)
And she will be slain like Signora. I will personally celebrate her death as well.

>>715207523
>and I won't even bother, usually they go for the "mary sue",
sure looks like some dragonshit defense to me, are you sure you're not the schizo here?

>>715207084
>Rana
She slept through the entire fucking quest, so fuck that.
This little guy should be playable instead.

>>715141314
is Nod Krai another region? or it's just part of a region we already visited?
Speaking of placed we havent visited, the fuck happened with the Mari Jivari in Natlan and the Black Castle in Mondo? Will we even go to those places in 6.X?

>>715196942
>Interesting theory, but aren't the nails specifically for keeping the Abyss out of Teyvat?
No, they are not. We knew this as far back as when Dragonspine was released.
They can be used for keeping the Abyss out of Teyvat, but they have been used to wipe out old civilizations when the Heavenly Principles got mad.

>>715206039
so you just dont like them?
>does not explain why traveler does not use his powers in the scene (of which super speed is one of them) to save her, to shill him, again
What you mean super speed? We lost access to imaginary in the intro, we cant manipulate local time anymore, only istaroth can.
Im not sure devs will add the final 2 elements as gameplay( they didnt add quantum for skirk, instead made "fake cryo" which sucks ass) but for now we just dont have the firepower to deal with most situations, so nothing weird here. Used to make sure we know hes neuvillette is strong.

>how does this make any sembkance of sense? focalors' plan hinged on furina just as much and yet the dragon parasite gets a whole scene dedicated to him and focalors while furina cries off-screen.
Egeria knew the future. She knew that peoples faith will fail, and that there will come a day where they will doubt their god triggering the end of times for them. So she found and adopted neuvillette as child and hoped furina will pull him into the fold.
Furinas crying or not didnt matter, egeria knew thats istaroth would make sure will happen, and jost worked around it.

>>715207785
>Why wouldn't he when he himself said it in his quest? You play the game right?
yes, but you write as in, he will be personally going to apologize to everyone as some sort of catharsis to your own wishes
knowing the difference is the key

>How did raiden cause him to massacre 3 clans of the raiden Gokaden? Explain it for us
well, for a starter, she created him, because he's not a human, do you remember that? then she rejected him, quite literally, didn't educate or care for him (in a normal way), then just let him run free
it's not even her first or last murderbot that she let run free that killed a bunch of people

>Did he even try to do anything for Dunyazard? He might as well not even know she exists even though she was the impetus for an entire archon quest in 3.0, whose death he nearly caused.
again, it's something you wish, he didn't turn into a saint or anything, the guy probably has a lot of worse shit under his belt that he doesn't even know he caused
remember that he actually was going to try to kill Amy/Mona/Traveler

>If the story is skipping steps in his redemption to go and call him and hero in 4.8, this is a retcon. Because this cannot happen if the memories of the world of him does not get erased.
I think you've missed a lot of the point of the 4.8 story quest, it represented M's wish for a different narrative, she wished that Durin, who was a monster in Teyvat abandoned by his creator, had a chance to actually be a decent being, this creates a pretty obvious parallel to him and his role as the hero, and why he got to watch the whole Durin scene
I don't think the story has ever "redeemed" him, but if you want to see it that way, then he's still in the start of his "redemption arc"

>Because this cannot happen if the memories of the world of him does not get erased.
he can't go back and say "sorry" for the Gokaden people if that's what you're wishing for lol

nothing about the pre-established world changed to be a retcon

>>715207270
>everyone knew neuv was gonna be a dragon when he leaked
you knew since you fallow leaks
95% didnt

>>715207862
if that's all you got from the whole phrase, I'll admit I was wrong, you're one step away

>>715208659
>What you mean super speed?
https://youtu.be/ewMNkshGHkU?t=40
not reading the rest as it's irrelevant

>Egeria knew the future.
i do not care about a non character that has no lines in the entire aq, i'm talking about the narrative itself. focalors' plans hinges on furina's mental torture for 500 years yet she gives her a message furina doesn't notice but neuvillette gets a whole 10 minute cutscene, this doesn't make sense.

>>715208825
>yes, but you write as in, he will be personally going to apologize to everyone
Which he stated in the game itself, which at this point it's clear you don't play.

>>715208825
>well, for a starter, she created him
And so what? Are you retarded enough to think she somehow set him on a path to murder tons of innocents of his own volition?

>>715208825
>again, it's something you wish,
Again, does not matter. If I'm supposed to believe this character is on a path to redemption the character he nearly caused the death of and was the focal point of an entire achon quest portion should receive some sort of recompense from the perpetrator.

>I think you've missed a lot of the point of the 4.8 story quest
No, I didn't, because Alice is the one who called him a hero, it has nothing to do with M. Which means the writers are actually trying to make you believe this character is a hero even after his past crimes.

>he can't go back and say "sorry" for the Gokaden
And I don't need the writers shilling him as some heroic individual to me either yet this is what they did.

If you're trying to get me to interpret your character differently without doing the legwork required and just wiping the populace's memories to force it, it's a retcon.

>>715208993
and you're zero steps away, you must think people are as retarded as you are

>>715208976
sorry, meant everyone could guess he was a dragon at first glance
then again, I might be projecting

>>715205575
act 3 of fontaine is the worst, act 4 is the second worst. act 5 is decent but is ultimately a weak imitation of sumeru act 5, with less character development across the board

>>715209071
watching that video makes me wonder if cryo traveler will get a shield

>>715209926
they'll be lucky to be better than diona with how the devs balance traveler

>>715209445
>Which he stated in the game itself, which at this point it's clear you don't play.
care to bring it to me then? because I doubt a lot about your own interpretation skills already

>And so what?
And so what? It means, if not for her creating him, he wouldn't have existed, she's literally responsible for his existence
>Are you retarded enough to think she somehow set him on a path to murder tons of innocents of his own volition?
She rejects him and let's him run free, are you that retarded? You create this sentient puppet who is capable of a lot of shit, tells him to fuck off and he ends up as a murder after going through shit for centuries, but somehow you're not related to that situation at all
As I've said before, not even her first or last murderbot that ended up like that, why are you failing to acknowledge this? It's pretty simple

>Again, does not matter.
it matters, you pretty much described your own view and wishes for a specific scene, something deeply related to your own set of morals, something subjective
but next time he'll bake a cake, with a big sorry on it, for everyone, so you'll be pretty happy about it lol

>No, I didn't, because Alice is the one who called him a hero, it has nothing to do with M. Which means the writers are actually trying to make you believe this character is a hero even after his past crimes.
So you're the one who doesn't play the game then, the Simulanka was created and written by three goddesses, which included Alice and M, also Barbeloth who literally created the prophecy

>And I don't need the writers shilling him as some heroic individual to me either yet this is what they did.
He was a pretty shitty Hero, wasn't that the whole point? that he was going to see someone who was a mirror to him and he would've to stop acting like a fucking teenager who was abandoned by his mother and actually be nice and care for someone
"It's a retcon because my feelings" Simulanka could've happened without the memory wipe

>>715187516
Me on the right

>>715210638
>care to bring it to me then?
The game is always available.

>And so what? It means, if not for her creating him,
If not for my mother birthing me I wouldn't have existed you retard, it doesn't then allow me to blame anyone but myself for my actions especially when they involve mass murder.

>As I've said before, not even her first or last murderbot
Which of them committed mass murder?

>it matters,
No, it doesn't. My own views does not matter, what matters is the devs forcing their viewpoint on me and the characters after their retcon. I don't want to hear about a mass murderer who has done nothing to redeem themselves being called a hero with a good heart. What you're doing here is deflecting the argument trying to act like I myself want anything when the story presented is attempting to change the way the viewers and characters are supposed to view the character taking into context their past actions.

>So you're the one who doesn't play the game then,
Except I do. And you brought up M when she had nothing to do with what Alice called him.

>He was a pretty shitty Hero
Why was he said to have a good heart and made the hero when at that point he has a multitude of crimes yet to be atoned for? Are you fucking retarded? To give an example, was Vegeta ever called a hero with a good heart before he literally died at the end of DBZ then brought back in the buu arc?

"it's not a retcon because i think this nonsense writing makes sense" Simulanka literally cannot happen because no one there would get the opportunity to even talk to him as Scaramouche would be branded a criminal across Tevyat itself.

>>715210119
but skirt training and that knowledge in sumeru gave us .015 attack damage!

https://files.catbox.moe/fvxvuj.png

>the Fontaine and Neuv defender is a Scara apologist
Color me surprised.
>Fontaine le good
Always boils down to males = good, females = bad

>>715212319
>The game is always available.
So...? You took a while to reply, were you trying to find it but then gave up? I guess that's because you interpreted it that way
With that being said, he's actively doing good deeds to try to make up a bit for the mess he did, of course, all behind the scenes because he acts like a teenager, pic rel is from 5.4

>If not for my mother birthing me I wouldn't have existed you retard
Are you also a puppet? I guess that explains, your mother should've taught you better about human feelings so you won't end like a retard online, hopefully she didn't give you a lot of power and tossed you away without saying shit to you, leaving you to your own fate
>Which of them committed mass murder?
I need to check the lore, but I think all of them, they took after their mother, reminder that the Inazuma AQ war and the Inazuma lore war are pretty different
I still have my doubts about the Maguu Kenki though, I can't remember shit about the one in Inazuma other than it being in a haunted area and having Dendrobium growing next to him
1/2

>>715118894 (OP)
>be god of death
>realizes Pierro is staring at you from below
>instantly gets wet
why is genshin's god of death a fucking slut?

>>715212319

>what matters is the devs forcing their viewpoint on me and the characters after their retcon.
Again, no retcon, and sure he was forced in the narrative, but it's not like everyone was calling him heroic, he was playing a pretend role for a very specific story
>What you're doing here is deflecting the argument trying to act like I myself want anything when the story presented is attempting to change the way the viewers and characters are supposed to view the character taking into context their past actions.
no, you actually just missed the point, or else, hey, Navia is now a king I guess
you drew a lot of conclusions from something that was presented that way, he had to be the hero to be forced in a specific place of the story, probably because he's very popular with a specific audience, they just wanted to tie him to another character to sell him later to the same audience and created a very specific situation to do that
he needed to be in that position to create the parallel and to force him to save Durin
how does this shit even happen? with the witch trio powers
you're overthinking simpler things

>And you brought up M when she had nothing to do with what Alice called him.
Alice: When Durin of Simulanka made his wish to the Goddess of Fate, it just so happened that in a world far away, all of you wonderful people were holding a copy of M's fairytale at that exact moment.
Alice: And because of your noble and kind souls, you were selected by the Goddess of Fate to come and save this world.
I swear, besides interpretation, you're really just missing basic pieces of the story

>Why was he said to have a good heart and made the hero
the hero was a title, I don't remember the story saying he had a good heart, but if they did, it was probably after what he did for Durin, it's not that deep

">Scaramouche would be branded a criminal across Tevyat itself."
he was literally in Inazuma in 2.6 after his war crimes there

Total Arananigger Death.

>>715213436
shady behavior

>>715213771
I'm just a lorefag though, I like to call out retardation and double standards
also, reminder that Alain is DEAD and he isn't Sandrone, she will be a cute robot girl made in the image of Mary-Ann

>>715214943
>Again, no retcon, and sure he was forced in the narrative, but it's not like everyone was calling him heroic
When one of the witches and the orchestrator of the event is calling him it, that's clear what their intent is. It's not like they had little durin be the one to say it,

>no, you actually just missed the point, or else, hey, Navia is now a king I guess
did alice call navia kingly or anything?
I didn't miss anything,the character got called a person with a noble heart while he's done nothing to qualify for this.

>Alice: And because of your noble and kind souls, you were selected by the Goddess of Fate to come and save this world.
See what I mean? Now, what's the difference between Scaramouche and every other character that appeared in that event?

>the hero was a title, i don't remember the story saying he had a good heart
You literally just quoted the story saying it.

>he was literally in Inazuma in 2.6 after his war crimes there
No he wasn't, the event was to figure out the person who killed the clans.

>>715214974

>>715213891
>, he's actively doing good deeds
what did he do for dunyazard? you seem to be sidestepping this.

>Are you also a puppet?
you're actually making this look even worse for him, as he was born with a fully functioning mind unlike an actual baby, dipshit. once more, you only have yourself to blame if you come out and start caiusing mass casualties on your own.

>>715215940
>When one of the witches and the orchestrator of the event is calling him it, that's clear what their intent is. It's not like they had little durin be the one to say it
>I didn't miss anything,the character got called a person with a noble heart while he's done nothing to qualify for this.
She just casually called them all noble hearts after they finished their hero's journey story and saved Durin, not just him, you're overthinking matters, plus she's the one who wants to grind up hilichurls to achieve perpetual energy (plus cannibalism)

>See what I mean? Now, what's the difference between Scaramouche and every other character that appeared in that event?
I understand, but I think you have a wrong vision about Alice as she herself is pretty fucked up and doesn't give a shit (in lore)

>No he wasn't, the event was to figure out the person who killed the clans.
I could be wrong since it was ages ago, but there was this snippet that confirmed his presence there, like the one I've posted earlier, there's was also something about the narrative of the event that fits, the thread seems to be ending so I won't have the time to look up

>>715216915
>casually
ignoring this, why did she that they had these qualities BEFORE they even arrived in the book world? Did you think no one would notice that?

>I understand, but I think you have a wrong vision about Alice as she herself is pretty fucked up and doesn't give a shit (in lore)
until alice does something actually reprehensible I'm not going to think much of it beside's the writer speaking through her.

>but there was this snippet that confirmed his presence there
He wasn't, he already grabbed the gnosis and left (childe was sent there to track him like 4 patches prior)

>>715119360
B-based...

>>715216752
>you seem to be sidestepping this.
I told you, what do you want him to do for her? bake a cake? that story ended, he might do something in the future if the opportunity arises, I don't think he's anywhere near redemption
I fucking wish they had the balls to make actual pure villains playable though, as far as playable characters go the best you have is the abandoned, tricked and misunderstood emo boy that has mommy issues and acts like a (somehow) more retarded Sasuke most of the time

>you're actually making this look even worse for him, as he was born with a fully functioning mind unlike an actual baby, dipshit
this isn't a own, it just makes things worse, as she threw him away without even giving him any directions or meaning despite him crying while sleeping and is literally what he's so mad about half of the time

>you only have yourself to blame if you come out and start caiusing mass casualties on your own.
it took a fucking long while and the Fatui plotting to trick him, he had like three different lives before that happened

>>715217419
>I told you, what do you want him to do for her?
did he do ANYTHING? cause it seems like the writers forgot what even happened in sumeru's aq.

> she threw him away without even giving him any directions
ah so you mean he was literally a human with a functioning mind but a blank slate yet he chose to do evil shit of his own volition.

>t took a fucking long while
..so he did it on his own, ei had nothing to do with it.

>>715217140
>ignoring this, why did she that they had these qualities BEFORE they even arrived in the book world? Did you think no one would notice that?
because it's Alice, it's the way she speaks, she either doesn't know or doesn't care about his actions

>until alice does something actually reprehensible I'm not going to think much of it beside's the writer speaking through her.
it's fair game I guess, but to me as a lorefag it's hard to ignore shit like

>What if we built a huge spinning ball-shaped cell in the center of the valley and threw all of the hilichurls into it? That way we might be able to generate enough energy to power all the mills in Mondstadt for at least five years.
>If we took it one step further by grinding the hilichurls that are too old or too weak into food and feeding them to the strong ones, we might just build ourselves a perpetual motion machine that can support a huge factory like in Snezhnaya!
>It seems totally feasible to me.

>>715217631
>because it's Alice, it's the way she speaks, she either doesn't know or doesn't care about his actions
she says the book itself chose them because they had those qualities, at that point what alice thinks doesn't matter