Which video game franchise do you think you have the most lore knowledge of right now? I feel like for me it's gotta be Zelda followed by The Elder Scrolls

Fifa

>>715125739 (OP)
Does zelda lore even matter? They rewrite it in every game anyway, seems pointless because they clearly have no coherent direction or vision.

>>715125739 (OP)
Probably Mass Effect

>>715125739 (OP)
If it counts, probably Shadow of Mordor/War, but that's also including the books.

For games, probably Mass Effect or Halo.

Warcraft, and I'm just as upset about that as you are.

>>715125907
Why did Arthas go back to Northrend and just chill (heh) on the throne waiting for some adventurers to come kill him?
Why the fuck did the Dreadlords or whoever even allow Nerd'zhul to create the Helmet and Frostmourne? What was the logic there?
I swear Warcraft is the dumbest fantasy franchise in recent history. Even Harry Potter ain't this fuckin' stupid.

>>715126054
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Metal Gear Solid
Huey did nothing wrong.

>zelda lore
made me chuckle
nice one tendyfaggot

Why did Ganondorf call the molduga in Tears of the Kingdom, and why did Rauru nuke them?
They're just sand whales. I don't get it.

>>715126054
Not him, but my answer is also Warcraft and because he wasn't just 'chill'ing, he was controlling the scourge telepathically and had them building an almost impenetrable fortress around him while expanding their forces in the main continents.

The real answer is that the Dreadlords made a McGuffin to hold Ner'zhul. There was no lore related rationale behind it other than they wanted to bind his soul to something, given that Necromancers are pretty good at not dying. The nuBlizz answer is that the bad guys were pretending to work for a badder guy while working for a badder bad guy, who had the runecarver make these impossibly powerful weapons because ???.

>>715125907
Fucking sucks, man. I wish I hadn't learned all of the cool shit that was eventually retconned in favor of gay inclusion bullshit.

>>715126775
>I wish I hadn't learned all of the cool shit that was eventually retconned in favor of gay inclusion bullshit.
I'm glad you understand.

it used to be trails but I played every RGG game recently so Yakuza is way more fresh in my mind

>>715126775
So what was the point of Arthas anyway? Ner'zhul can telepathically control the Scourge and whatnot. He wants a body, I guess? But then he does nothing with it?
Was Arthas (Ner'zhul) bangin' undead bitches or something, or is it just some "having a body amplifies my telepathic capabilities" type anime shit?

>>715125739 (OP)
Xenoblade, probably.

>>715127441
So, Ner'zhul was completely and totally without influence or power inside of the block of ice. He used what little bit of power he had with a non-physical body to push Forstmourne out of the ice, which was basically jettisoning a thing into the mortal world where it COULD be found and used.

Upon Arthas' arrival in Northrend, his very nature made him susceptible to the 'call' of Frostmourne, which, the intent of Ner'zhul was to get the fuck out of the ice and escape the yoke of the Burning Legion. Arthas finds it, is corrupted fully and absorbed into the Sword, breaks Ner'zhul out and puts on the helm. Arthas' spirit is more powerful than Ner'zhuls, so after a brain battle inside of the Helm of Domination, Arthas emerges the controlling power owner. At this point, everything that happens is the desire of Arthas (admittedly, a corrupted and evil Arthas) and not solely Ner'zhul.

TL;DR, Ner'zhul wanted a bitch to get him out and Arthas was like 'under new management lmao'

>>715127441
ALSO also, Arthas' whole story is one of biting the hand that feeds him. It's first shown with Uther, then with his Father, then with Ner'zhul. It's a story of a man so consumed by difficult decisions and greater goods that he succumbs to the evil he feared and lets it destroy who he once was. I've always personally believed that he WAS initially righteous and just, but that righteousness can lead to rashness, and rashness can lead to corruption.

Also if memory serves the idea was that Ner'zhul could control the Scourge but the Burning Legion having him locked in a cage meant THEY controlled the scourge. He wanted out of that dynamic entirely, and Arthas succeeding in his quest actually introduced another wrinkle to the series: a third party with unchecked, immeasurable power that spreads and transforms the fallen into soldiers. Without someone controlling him, Arthas presented an equal threat to both Azeroth AND the Burning Legion. Arthas was way, WAY too hypothetically powerful to have been the third expansion's boss.

>>715127935
Now I'm really confused, because what's the point of having a goober trapped in the ice if he can't do anything? Wasn't that the whole point of the Dreadlords, to use him to serve the Burning Legion?
I mean, that was the whole plague thing, yeah? Even then, before Arthas, he was controlling the Scourge.
I don't get it mang, this kinda just seems like a bunch of schlock.

>>715128369
Alls I know is that Warcraft III's story, particularly the Human Campaign, can be summarized as
>Four retards can't take five minutes to explain what the fuck's going on to each other
Pic related, the biggest, dumbest asshole in all of Azeroth

>spent 400 hours playing Cyberpunk
>spent another 250 hours listening to lore videos

>>715128539
Clarified it more in the second post, but yeah, it's pretty schlocky. I love Arthas as a character but the rules of the Lich King around the Dreadlords are pretty lax and made up on the spot. They tortured Ner'zhul before he could get even more powerful until he agreed to help The Burning Legion, but he was scheming to get out of it. I imagine it was more like waiting until there was a moment to try and get away, but the combined power of him and Arthas made them realize they could buttfuck the dreadlords in their entirety if they dared to show up in Northrend.

If you consider it "lore" probably Mass Effect or Deltarune. Genuinely not sure which is more sad, but it is what it is.

Mass Effect I read all of the books (yes, including the one where Kai Leng eats Captain Anderson's cereal), read the comics, played through ME1 and ME2 at least 12 times each, went through every single codex entry, and more. Then ME3 came out and completely wiped away any interest I had for good.

Deltarune I know way too much about. Ironically, I don't give a shit about all of the "popular" theories that float around. Despite that I can basically identify where pretty much any dialogue comes from, all the different permutations, all the different hints of backstory, all of it. I used to write a bunch of fics where I was obsessed with making sure I got stuff right, so I'd actually scan over the town map to plan out what I should describe in scenes, or pull dialogue from docs people made of all lines to make sure I got certain character tones right.

Definitely not the best use of my time.

>>715128791
Why aren't the mirrors real?

>>715128718
No, you don't understand, there's no time to explain, it's imperative that we do something right now, I have to avoid ever telling anyone what's happening directly or what the actual risks are

Fucking Medivh fucked everything up. Everyone was right to think he was a fucking dickhead and shun him.

>>715129091
Mirror manufacturers figured out they could monetize "smart mirrors" so everyone has them now.

>>715125739 (OP)
Skyrim is for the Nords

>>715125739 (OP)
Kind of a cheat, but any Warhammer or Dungeons and Dragons game has an assload of free lore.
Or Superhero games I guess.

Zelda's Lore is a 5 page dr seus book for toddlers compared to elder scrolls lore.

Not a video game but probably Mutant Chronicles

Why was the prisoner transport approaching Helgen from the south road?

>>715125739 (OP)
I guess 40k counts, so that.

>>715125739 (OP)
TES wins easily, followed by Warhammer 40k.

>>715129513
Cyrodiil is that way.

>>715129753
So?

>>715129843
they were caught trying to cross the border

Not much lore so I know most of it.
Half-Life/2

>>715130013
The ambush was at Darkwater Crossing, which makes even less sense because there's no border anywhere near there.

>>715130013
No they weren't. They were ambushed in the Darkwater Crossing according to Ralof.

>>715129753
>>715130013
>>715130136
>>715130191
You and the Stormcloaks were ambushed at the border between Imperial Skyrim and Stormcloak Skyrim, duh

TES is the only game lore that has interested me. I hope TES6 takes place in Hammerfell and High Rock so we get more Breton lore

>>715130367
Darkwater Crossing is not near any particular hold border. The Rift and The Pale are allied with Ulfric, Whiterun is neutral. The road to Helgen (from Darkwater) actually takes you through the heart of The Rift.
How do you fuck up your game's lore this hard in the first five minutes?