>strong difficulty
>varied, well-designed levels

Come home, ape man.

Tropical Freeze might be one of Nintendo's best games imho

Tropical Freeze was too good for us, I don't care that the switch port is considered "overpriced" I'm just glad it isn't trapped on the Wii U.

>>715131198
I wish it stayed on the wii u

>>715128738 (OP)
i played this for the first time last year and was extremely impressed. i borrowed a friends copy of the country returns and was surprised by how good that one was too. i thought for sure it would just be a beta of tropical freeze, but aside from the music being more boring it was every bit as fun as TF imo.

>>715128738 (OP)
Levels are too long. Rare > Retro.

>Come home, ape man
Not trying to bigly you, but do you know what this is a reference to? Genuinely curious.

>>715128738 (OP)
>We'll never get another Kong game like it
Truely suffering

>>715131198
>I don't care that the switch port is considered "overpriced" I'm just glad it isn't trapped on the Wii U
I was lucky enough to find it a few years ago super cheap at a second hand store. I wasn't even looking at the games, my mum found it and wanted it because she loved playing the arcade Donkey Kong as a kid.

>>715128738 (OP)
>last dk game where he isnt a retarded soi faggot
we didnt know how good we had it...

I bought this game on launch day for the Wii U and I still haven't beaten it in 2025. I still think it's probably the best DK game ever. Just haven't gotten around to actually finishing it. I bought the Switch port and everything. Hoping for a Switch 2 resolution bump soon.

>>715128738 (OP)
Crash mogs it

>>715133021
crash mogs nothing you snoy faggot

>>715128738 (OP)
>Wii U game
>Graphics are 100x better than Switch 2 games
>Gameplay, animations and cutscenes are way better too.

>>715133185
retard

>>715128738 (OP)
Part of me wishes they had made one more game to make it a trilogy, keeping parity with the Rare games. But that's just my autism. I still need to play the 3DS/Switch levels from Returns but I had a lot more fun with Tropical Freeze. The bosses are noticeably more challenging, particularly the polar bear and final boss. Even the owl was a bit tricky. I miss good boss fights in Nintendo games

>>715133021
Crash is fake 3D for the coping poorfags that couldn't afford Mario 64.

>>715133314
>>715133107
You lost

>>715131198
>>715132703
I got it for $30 new from target a couple years ago on black friday. Target always does random really good sales on Switch games in general. Pikmin 4 was also $30 only a year after release.

>>715128738 (OP)
Best modern 2D platformer, the retarded game "critics" were too shit to see it.

>>715133519
Mario 64 is so fucking trash compared to Crash.

>absolutely atrocious camera constantly getting stuck on terrain, spazzing out, facing the wrong direction, refusing to go where you want it to
>slippery and awkward controls, especially in underwater and snow levels
>2D Mario's momentum and physics work in a 2D environment where you always have a perfect view and perspective of the action; it's significantly worse in a 3D environment where you are constantly fighting the camera and there are fundamental limitations to perspective/depth perception
>these momentum and physics are especially egregious when the movement is relative to aforementioned awful automatic camera that refuses to go where you want
>constantly boots you out after every star and makes you retread each stage a half dozen times all the way from the beginning of the stage with a tiny stupid piecemeal change
>dial a combo system for platforming
>overall level/enemy/hazard design are extremely basic and boring
>constant easter egg hunt for random bullshit grows old very quick
It feels like a glorified fucking tech demo for 3D movement. You need fucking 6 inch thick nostalgia goggles to still convince yourself it holds up today

>>715128738 (OP)
If it's donkey knong and it's not snes rareware, it's degenerate.

>>715133670
Cute copypasta. Lost at the camera fight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss421nbCAJE
YAAAA YA YA YAAAAAA
OH OH OH HOOO
YAAAA YA YA YAAAAA

I remember when metroid fags were seething because Retro made this instead of a Prime game, they ruined the hype and excitement around the game. That along with Nintendo using the game awards just to advertise playable cranky when people expected something bigger. It did not get the love it deserved.

>>715133667
I got it when it launched on Wii U. Couldn't believe the scores it was getting, it was absolutely filtering journalists and it was clear they were ass-blasted by the challenge. It just wasn't a great time to be a 2D platformer on a console with mixed reception, I guess.

>>715133667
for all the hype about it "breaking the new super mario bros paradigms", it really was pretty much the same shit

I want Funky Kong to be playable, but I don't want him to completely trivialize the game

...which is why I play him in 8Dx

Tf and returns are top tier.

>>715133774
It didn't help that even the switch port was advertised largely for the "New Funky Mode" for babies, AND they went and delisted the cheaper Wii U version after charging more for the switch port. Nintendo's PR and marketing since the middle of the Wii era has been so insanely fucking bad it's unreal. I think Monsanto can curate a better public image.

>>715128738 (OP)
it would have been better if it had a baby instead of DK

>>715131348
Returns played just as great as Tropical Freeze, they just made a lot of aesthetic improvements, like the snowmads being way cooler villains than the tikis, and of course David Wise returning was huge.

i've played many games but i have not seen a single 2D platformer that holds a candle in terms of being this perfect mix of fun, variety, presentation and replayability (time trials are very fun and demanding) as tropical freeze.

truly one of modern nintendo's crown jewels, and sadly, a really overlooked at that. the perfect amalgamation of what made DKC1/2/Returns so good, with none of the bad traits.

also david wise at his best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95HuSMQSUVo

>>715131446
>more game bad

>>715134006
Wario Land 4? Otherwise yeah, Tropical Freeze is pretty sweet.

>>715128738 (OP)
Still too sterile. This and Returns never felt like the rare DKC games, to me.

>>715133914

>>715134006
the saxophone part in this is one of the greatest things in any video game soundtrack

>>715133801
It pisses me off how much people hype up Wonder. They literally just took NSMB and made the characters more expressive and people acted like it was the greatest thing ever. It doesn't even do things that much better than NSMB, and in some ways worse. I hated how the Koopalings were used for 3 games in a row, but at least they were better bosses than the few garbage Bowser Jr. fights in Wonder. The levels were also too reliant on finding secrets and slowing down the pace, most levels were a joke if you just ran through it like a normal Mario level. Music was really mediocre too aside from a few like the Metal Mario remix. No one even talks about the game anymore, it was forgotten in a few weeks.

>>715133429
I miss good boss fights period. They’ve gone to the wayside for quite a while now and it sucks.

>>715128738 (OP)
Returns mogs this piece of shit

>>715134063
He's right, a platformer shouldn't have long levels until very late in the game or a post-game challenge.

>>715133314
what's it like to be so butthurt and wrong?

>>715134383
And too much TEXT. A 2D Mario game is the last game I want for some scrimblo fuck to pester me with unskippable text, let me play the stupid levels already.

>>715134463
It's a shame. Dark Souls bosses were pretty good, but nobody knew WHY they were good and everybody just resorted to making dodgespam fights. Including fromsoft themselves. Where's the Megaman X or Warioworld-esque fights?

>>715134476
Anon that's just outright wrong. TF mogs it in every regard.

>>715128738 (OP)
My only gripe with this game is how some boss fights overstay their welcome. Other than that? Absolute ludo.
>>715134476
Returns is ruined by waggling. I'm considering getting the Switch version to see how it stacks up with TF with a non-fucked control scheme.

>>715133021
>>715133519
>>715133670
Crash 1 is fun in the beginning then suddenly more than half the levels are shitty sidescrolling levels with unfun precise jumps. Crash 2 and 3 were solid. They still barely utilize the full potential of a 3D game like Mario 64 did. Mario 64 was so revolutionary and had so much depth that people still play it today, including zoomers who weren't even born when it came out, while Crash is just a simple little charming platformer that just makes people go "remember HOOGABAGADA? haha."

>>715128738 (OP)
I remember playing this and I quit because I didn't enjoy the game at all.

>>715133789
The Switch port is still in the low 80s so those retards are still being filtered.

>>715134006
This is the best song in the game

>>715133667
Wonder is OK. 100%ed it.
It's fun but has a lot of problems. the elephant looks and feels bad.
Marios voice is dog shit so I was forced to play as Luigi.
Mini-characters have horrible models (yet again)
It's too easy.
some of the visual look cheap and flat in huge contrast to others.
movement feels laggy and slippery but the game is never complex enough for it to be a problem in anything other than feel.
I didn't realize I needed to be buying those useless sign posts until the end.

>>715128738 (OP)
>strong difficulty

>>715133429
tropical freeze was great but the formula had run its course by that point, they didn't need to make another game that was exactly the same as returns but better, not the 90s anymore where you can get two games out in 18 months.

>>715133185
The way they did the fur still amazes me. It's like fucking magic
It's like some directional curve, enhanced depth evolution of the shells technique.
and it looks completely smooth too. No pixelated artifacts like any of the shitty modern Unreal Engine fur fx you'll see.

>>715135250
and now we have weird feathers for Bananza

>>715135474
roody poo talking about feathers again? Get new material

>>715136174
it wont stop being true.

>>715133429
It'd be cool but it'd have to do more presentation-wise especially in a post-Bananza world defining DK's status quo going forward

>>715133667
Rayman origins was better

>>715136436
It's not going to happen but it would be pretty wild if there was a 3D and 2D split like Metroid Prime/Dread, but Bananza/Country moving forward. Then again, the Zelda and Mario franchises do something similar.

>>715128738 (OP)
Tropical freeze is the best platformer ever made. It's so good

I have best tropical freeze 100 percent probably about 20 times since January. My son loves it and it's his first video game and always wants to watch me play it so I let him for one hour each night. He's started to play too and funky mode is actually perfect for him. Kind of pisses me off that the switch port of returns was mailed in because I wish it had a funky mode too for my son's sake. But yeah, tropical freeze is amazing and it still hasn't gotten old even though ive played it for six straight months. I'm like a tropical freeze grandmaster

>>715136436
>presentation-wise especially in a post-Bananza world
Bananza has dogshit presentation. it looks like a wii game and DKs faces are intensely dislikable and ugly.

>>715128738 (OP)
i'm literally stuck on the final boss
so fucking angry with myself for getting old

>>715128738 (OP)
>well-designed
kill yourselve

DKC2 or Tropical Freeze?

>>715128738 (OP)
What's the better way to play this on pc? Cemu or Yuzu/Ryujinx?

tropical freeze is terrible

there are so many hidden hazards in areas where you have to make pixel perfect jumps and the only way to learn to avoid them is trial and error deaths

>>715138107
Generally Wii U emulation is better than switch emulation, but Tropical Freeze is one of the few games worth paying money for. It's too good to pirate.

>>715137893
Don't worry the final boss is by far the worst thing in the game.
I didn't find it hard but the hitboxes are so stingy and for a fast paced game the fight is so FUCKING SLOW and 90% of it is just waiting.
I was so fucking annoyed just waiting for openings to actually do damage. the first time I missed 2 shots in a row and was not in the mood for more fucking waiting so I turned the game off and didn't beat it til the next day.

>>715138107
your fwb's Switch or another fwb's Switch or their gf's Wii U. i don't own any recent consoles because i don't even game weekly. do busy going to basement shows and topping clocky dolls because i never meet men :\

>>715138107
Cemu runs fine. it's the OG game.
Ryujinx Is basically Identical but the character models have weird noses (inconsistent with the cutscene designs) and it also has funky Kong.

Both games look infinitely better with Anti-aliasing and other graphic enhancements so you really want to play them on PC and not shitty nintendo hardware.

I thought both returns games had clunky controls compared to the rare games. I died so many times because the roll works so differently

>>715139242
It's the massive input lag, TF on Switch is super laggy, like 100ms compared to <50ms of Wii U

>>715134759
Crash N.Sane Trilogy sold 20m copies you fucking shitbrained tendie.

Crash (the first three at least) is still absolute fucking peak when it comes to level/hazard focused platforming, some of the best, most creative, challenging, memorable, replayable stage designs, and just oozes charm. Absolutely timeless masterpiece. Right up there with the Kong games at the peak of the genre.

Mario 64 is something different entirely. The levels are boring playgrounds full of gay easter egg hunts where you basically have to make your own fun by dicking around with the movement system because the level design and hazards alone are dull as fuck. Also the camera is absolute dogshit and it makes you retread each stage 7 times because it kicks you out after every star. What a shit game, only speedtroons and autists enjoy it.

>>715139932
Seriously? An entire tenth of a second, that's insane. Is there proof of this?
And for that matter, that's pretty bad for the Wii U version, too.

>>715140191
Why don't the speedrunners and autists obsess over Crash, if it's so much better?

>>715140259
50ms is pretty damn low for modern console games. Melee on CRT is like 60ms for reference

>>715140339
As an early 3D game, the devs were kinda holding everything together with duct tape. As a result, Mario 64 has a bunch of bugs, jank, and weird physics quirks that allows you to do a bunch of retarded tech shit, just look at autists like pannen who sit there and break the game.

Crash is more fun as an actual fucking VIDEOGAME, not some spergy toolset for autismos to tinker with. You master the mechanics, learn the stages, get 100%, move on, replay it every now and then. Just a great time, satisfying and challenging level design, very charming artstyle and design.

Whereas subhuman retard 64 autists sit there and try to do the most retarded off-the-wall gamebreaking shit. If Mario 64 were a competently developed game, not full of bugs and jank, speedrunning interest would be way lower. Also Nintendo games in general tend to draw aspies like flies to shit. The levels, enemies, bosses, camera, pacing and design basically don't matter at all to them, the levels are just a canvas for their autistic shitflinging experimentation

>>715140791
If that were the case some broke piece of shit like Big Rigs: over the road racing would be more popular, because of all the ways you can break the physics.
It's as if there's a good game in Mario 64.

>>715134063
Good platformers(like TF) have a certain theme/gimmick each level. Long levels makes them overstay their welcome.
So its better to have 100 short levels then 60 levels that are twice as long.
See: every indie platformer

>>715140191
Crash 1 is garbage tho.
And sales, even more so fueled by nostalgia are not a mark of quality.

>>715141138
Stay filtered zoomer shitstain. Go on a little gay easter egg hunt in barren mario 64 levels while the camera looks up Mario's asshole instead of the jump in front of you, faggot.

>>715141058
You really are one stupid motherfucker

>>715141065
The themed levels fucking sucked, especially the shitty jungle juice levels. The flow and visual language of the levels was butchered to shoehorn in some stupid "story" of the level.

The best levels were the K-levels and the secret world, as well as the levels that just had theming rather than trying to tell a story.

>>715138095
why not both?

>>715138150
no there isn't, tropical freeze is piss easy compared to the rare games.

skill issue.

>>715141960
Shit and dumb take.

>>715142261
It's funny that Tropical Freeze is easier than Returns (Minecarts now have health) and Returns is easier than Country (You can take two hits without a barrel, compared to it being a one-hit kill) and yet Tropical Freeze STILL filters a ton of people. The easiest one.

>>715141373
>resorts to Ad hominon attacks
I win

>>715142261
I 100% DKC 1 and 2 on my SNES so no save states. Fuck no it isn't.

>>715142458
Returns is way harder than the classic trilogy

>>715137507
since my taxes are likely paying for the welfare checks that fund your shitty life, can you at least use them to go get your fucking eyes checked? you sound like such a retard

>>715134973
>and feels bad.
i almost want to say that you didnt play it just based on this, the elephant doesn't ""feel"" bad at all. using the word "feel" in this context all almost entirely convinces me you're just saying random shit

>>715140791
"hurr DURR the game mechanis are ttotally actually better man thatrs why people dont ever spend any time trying to master them past their first playthrougfh!!! mario 64 is so shit and bad because its early 3D and its duck tape man because there are BUGS!! !aND No finished game ever had those in that era!!!"
lmfao shut the fuck up you dumb faggot, such a weak cope. everyone that has a brain can just play mario 64 for 5 minutes and understand immediately the skill ceiling that exists with the depth in mario's movement. no one's buying your shit just because you try to coat it in as many annoying fucking insults as possible. speak like a real fucking human, christ.

>>715137335
Aw, that's cute. Returns is quite a bit harder than TF so it really could've used a casual mode I think, but yeah, it was a bit lazy. Should've gotten a small team at Retro to handle it imo.

Me and a long distance friend make it a point to beat Tropical Freeze every time we visit each other. Sadly the last two times we didn't have the time to do it.

>>715142261
I literally played 1 and 2 before returns HD and you're flat out wrong. Most of the original trilogy is easy minus 1 or 2 levels towards the end but those levels do not compare to the hardest levels in returns or freeze. Freeze starts getting difficult at the second world

>>715145736
The point is that movement is all Mario 64 has you retarded shitbrained tendie.

The level design, hazard design, enemy and boss design, camera, gay easter egg hunts, artstyle, constant padding of making you repeat levels 7 times, etc are all dogshit.

That's why ALL autistic tendie manchild retards can talk about is
>MUH MOVEMENT!!
>MUH SPEEDTROONING!!!
because that's literally all the game has you fucking retard. It's only appealing if you're an autistic speedtrooner who loves jumping around like a fag doing gay easter egg hunts in empty, boring ass playgrounds

And yes, most of the mechanics that the retarded autists sperg out over are unintentional jank from being Nintendo's first 3D platformer. There is a reason Nintendo totally abandoned Mario 64's style and copied Crash with Galaxy/3D World.

>>715138095
2 for me. I like Tropical Freeze well enough but have never seen what others see in it (and I owned a Wii U so it's not like I didn't have an incentive to big it up). I'd take most of the other platformers mentioned in this thread over it.

>>715146751
he says while crash literally had speedrunning built into it with the relic challenges.

>>715146853
You are a fucking moron if you can't understand how playing a level for mastery to complete it quickly and abusing a dozen different frame-perfect bugs to jump around like a little fag to collect easter eggs in a dull, empty playground are fundamentally different.

Time trials and speedtrooning are a whole different ballpark of autism

>>715145520
> the elephant doesn't ""feel"" bad
yes it feels like shit.
it's an ugly design, it has ugly unsatisfying animations.
I don't want to play as this shit. I just want to play as my character I picked.