Thread 715129740

>>715129740 (OP)
I'm lazy
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i do both

>>715129740 (OP)
I have a few books with that exact design

>>715129740 (OP)
Reading is for nerds

I read dark romantasy that the wife recommends

I read japonese mangos

>>715129740 (OP)
>what are visual novels

kind of a garbage selection in that pic tbdesu

>>715129740 (OP)
>reading fiction
I only read history and philosophy books

I cant read anymore. Obviously I can actually read but what I mean is my attention span has gone so bad over the years I cant actually read a book. I get bored instantly. I'm not even a zoomer. I'm 35 and used to read lots of books even in college as I did a degree in a Medical field so I was already reading loads of shit. But my attention span went to complete shit the older I've got and I even have to watch movies and tv shows and youtube videos at 3x or 4x speed now while also having another window open reading shit on 4chan or elsewhere at the same time as watching the movie or video.

>>715130456
>3x or 4x speed
Mental illness

>>715130508
I dunno what happened. I wasn't like this until my late 20s.

>>715129740 (OP)
I play games between reading novels.

>>715129740 (OP)
I've never understood the point of reading. When you read a book, you have no control over what happens. Why are people okay with that?

>third world hours
>thread full of novel haters

>>715130843
The only thing that makes sense is to sit in an empty room with your eyes closed and think.

>>715131002
That sounds like sleeping, and I do a lot of it. I'm still waiting for one of the NPCs to explain how it's enjoyable for them.

>>715129740 (OP)
I kinda like the idea of just chilling in nature while reading a book, but I'm lazy and don't have the attention span for it.
Gaming is the superior entertainment form anyway.
>inb4 I'm dumb
I have a 130+ IQ and am self-made rich.

>>715129740 (OP)
>play game
>see:
>antagonising the player
>slop
>female protagonist
>mandatory LGBT
>coombait (female gaze)
>coombait (weeb gaze)
>gacha gacha hey play this gacha
>extremely unfunny political """satire""" and references
>lootboxes in single player games
>"Thumbs up! I love it! But only buy it on sale..."
>cash cow
>FOMO
>live service
>asset flip
>speedrunning
>no escape from politics
>AI generated textures
>AI generated frames
>realise hate games

>remember books were good 20 years ago
>go into bookstore
>scream

>>715130843
>He doesn't read CYOA

>>715131278
I did read Choose your own adventure when I was younger, and I liked it. Video games would be the natural progression. Why would I go backwards?

>>715130992
On the contrary, shitskins love novels because they make them feel smart. They can't into non-fiction.

>>715131328
Oh... you know...
I wish that you could google X-COM these days and get X-COM.

>>715131529
On the contrary, shitskins love non-fiction because it makes them feel smart. They can't into fiction.

Genuinely why do you do think the contrary? No, I'm not talking about YA romance novels, just as I wouldn't be as childish as to claim nonfiction to be nothing but pop self help. Frankly if you don't read both you're just a fucking idiot but if you don't read literary novels you simply have no capacity for art.

>>715130414
what's your favorite novel

>>715131260
Read books from 20+ years ago.

i do both. i don't play games for a compelling story. i play for a fun game. i real novels for a compelling story.

Why do people pretend reading is some intellectual thing?

>>715133271
because a lot of idiots still don't do it for some reason.

>>715129740 (OP)
I do read, not novels though. I only read esoteric schizo shit. Novels are gay.
Currently reading Jung's Red Book

there are very few actually interesting books that can hold your attention. hack authors keep padding page count with prose and redundant plot lines and telling a 350 page story that can be told in 80. reading fictional literature is garbage pastime activity

i felt like reading harry potter again
bought a copy of the half blood prince, my favorite from when i was a little girl
it was pretty good, might try and watch all the movies again

should i give the eragon books a try? never read or watched that series

>>715133236
Beyond based. Everytime I read it I start to get the itch to play Daggerfall or KCD.

I read at night when I can't sleep, just load up an Epub that I pirated on my phone instead of browsing the internet.
I think books stay with me longer, as in I still remember in detail parts from books I read 15 years ago, but games are obviously funner

I do not comprehend very well with pure literature. I'm also dyslexic but not to the comedic degree so I read rather slowly. I'd much rather read along with an audio book or via video games where there is both a visual and audible explanation for things.

Because video games is an interactive medium

>>715129740 (OP)
I will if you can spoonfeed me some cool adventure (fantasy or sci-fi) novels with unique landscapes and phenomena

>>715129740 (OP)
Anybody ever read while playing slower games?
>reading the Anabasis of Cyrus while playing Imperator and waiting for something to happen
>reading short pulp like Solomon Kane or Conan when I'm playing Sailwind and tacking close to the wind (going really fucking SLOW)
I'll also do the overland travel mod for >>715134454 the one that lets you speed up foot travel, adds actual variation to the 3d terrain, and the one that lets your horse follow roads. Reading Don Quixote while I zip from town to town across the massive open landscape and occasionally veer off for an adventure/random encounter is supremely comfy.
I guess I like to break up two slower activities with each other, but it's also about supporting the mood and aesthetic and it elevates the experience of both. I just wonder if anyone else does the same and if so, why?

>>715129740 (OP)
i've already read well over 1000 books including technical manuals. i've read pretty much everything that i like and im not interesting in any pseud wankery

I sit and listen to audiobooks while im driving for work. Ill listen to them sometimes while playing grindy repetitivd vidya as well.

>>715134298
Haven’t watched the movie or whatever but I remember reading the books after Harry Potter and liking them more

>>715129740 (OP)
I do read stuff from time to time, but I just don’t find books as engrossing because of the lack of interactivity, visuals and audio. If I could turn every novel into a visual novel I would. There are books good enough to overcome this for me, but not a lot.

>>715129740 (OP)
Last (((book))) I read was full metal panic

>>715134959
Have you read the Book of the New Sun?

I read and play games

>>715135460
I haven't, looks right up my alley. Thanks anon.

>>715130992
i love this motherfucker like you wouldnt believe, he's so funny

>>715135705
Oh boy are you in for a ride. Glad I could help

>>715129740 (OP)
I do both.
I read books in order to enjoy good stories.
I play games to make my own stories.
That said, when it comes to games, JRPGs, movie games, VNs, and anything with tons of dialogue or cutscenes can fuck off.

>>715129740 (OP)
If you think the state of modern gaming and it's pushing of certain (((agendas))) is bad you don't want to see the state of modern publishing.

Been reading Ulysses S. Grant's memoirs and I've been endlessly amused by how many fuckups this guy remembers about his life

>>715129740 (OP)
I'm learning on an website called 4thewords
So far writing an Pokemon X Yu-Gi-Oh crossover fanfiction ala Tokyo mirage sessions

>>715129740 (OP)
novels are gay, i only read non-fiction

>>715130843
Why do you watch anime and shows?

>>715130414
P&P is the only good book in that picture

>>715129740 (OP)
books have no gameplay

>>715130456
I my experience people that watch videos on 3x - 4x speed (me too) don't have an attention span issue. We have an information density issue. Basically modern media is so dumbed down that your brain turns off and loses interest. Hence you need to up speed to 4x to reach the information density needed for your brain to stay engaged.

I read a lot of books nowadays. In fact I can't watch movies anymore because I lose interest in them. You need to find more challenging books with a very high Information density to stay being engaged.

The issue is people have convinced themselves that they have low attention span. In reality your brain is craving information and high engagement, if you provide it with elaborate science fiction books you're guaranteed to be invested and into it

I feel like VNs are just objectively better, it's like a novel with a soundtrack, you can convey mood, atmosphere and complicated ideas in better ways than simple text on a page.
I've never read a Lynchian book, but I've played Lynchian VNs.

>>715129740 (OP)
I thought the books in OP were copies of the quran

>>715129740 (OP)
One thing I learned from reading, watching TV and playing games. All stories are shit quality

>>715129740 (OP)
I read Butter the other day. It was alright, a bit long winded. I think my favourite book I've read recently is Catch 22.

>>715129740 (OP)
fuck I have those Minecraft books and the Death Note collection as gifts from my aunt like 10 years ago but I never played Minecraft before and don't give a shit about comics.

My problem with novels is once I start I have to finish it even if I hate the book. Same thing when I see people watch movies. It got so bad I was at a cafe and saw some jeet watching a movie on his phone and I had to ask for the name of the movie and found a subbed version to watch. I don't get this compulsion with Vidya or TV shows, it's just books and film.

This is the only book I read

>>715141182
Good novel, have you read its sequel: the koran, and the spin off: book of mormon? I found this villain-protagonist 'god' to be interesting character althoughbeit lack of characteristic and feels like a retarded 8 y.o. kid with power. The spin off even feature some space stuff, although is getting more and more schizoid

>>715135460
>>715135705
>Recommending BOTNS for someone who clearly doesn't read

Good luck, but this anon is basically trolling you (it is a great series though).

>>715131260
the best books have already been written. read the old classics instead of new slop.

>>715135460
Botns requires paying a lot of attention for the really cool shit because if you just read and believe everything at face value you'll think it's just strange and mediocre. Also you'll be missing a few 200 iq references every page.

I do read books
Currently I'm reading Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, L'assommoir and こぐまのクーク物語 春と夏
I've taken a 3 year gap with video games and now I'm playing them again, they both have good points

>>715131529
NTA, but I'm not quite sure anybody just reads random nonfiction books. The only reason I've ever picked up a nonfiction book is specifically because I'm researching a topic's primary source, or because it's a technical manual on something I want/need to do.
I mean, come on, in this era of the internet, you can't seriously think grabbing one random book about a topic is the best way to go about it, when a nonfiction book is mired deeply into one random person's biases and idiosyncracies about the subject at hand. It's just better to dive into the internet and start grabbing from a wide pool, and then narrowing down as you get more specific. Basically the only exceptions are topics that are WHOLLY psychological and about something that exists in one person's brain, like philosophy, but not everybody gives a fuck about that in particular.

>>715129740 (OP)
Book are boring and have bad sound design.

>>715141182
The bible-as-text is some of the worst literature you could read. Maybe ecclesiastes is cool if you've never seen the idea of self help before. You're getting condensed bronze to iron age bullshit that no present day westerner will really truly understand (Leviticus for example) without an introductory text on why it's so fucking weird.

>>715129740 (OP)
All books are beneficial. Let's read Mein Kampf! Or one I'm sure you love! The bible.

I have thought about reading my entire bible since I’m neet so I have tons of time. I read the intros but as soon as I started reading Matthew I lost interest and put it away. I don’t have any books from the library so all I have are this bible and my library in skyrim.

>>715129871
This.

>>715133515
When I can have huge futa cocks in my face in a VR book, books will be worth reading.

>>715129740 (OP)
I make it a habit to read one book for every quarter of the year

>>715129740 (OP)
99.99% of novels are derivative and written in the same boring, plain, regurgitated style. I have dropped so many books because the first page eventually gets to a description of someone and it goes "he had long mousy hair and a thick bushy beard and dark eyes etc etc etc ad infinitum" and even when I say this to persons who read a lot of novels, they will say "you're not reading the right books" will proceed to recommend books and those same books will commit the same sins.
>>715140792
pretty much my thoughts exactly

I can't talk shit with my friends while reading novels
Also I want to read local/translated novels to improve my prose but nothing catches my eyes. At this point I'd rather buy more non-fictions about the vidya industry but imported books can get expensive

I just finished crime and punishment and I'm currently reading sherlock holmes alongside some hmofa stories. my drawfag friends hate reading because it makes them feel "dumb" and considers literature a low form of art because "the barrier of entry is so low compared to drawing."

>>715129740 (OP)
I do read.

>>715144357
>spoiler
holy cringe

Video games at their peak can be more sublime artistic experience than novels because it's the collective effort of dozens, if not hundreds of people. However this potential rarely gets achieved due to variety of factors

>>715144434
>LNs
Doesnt count, thats cheating

>>715144454
What?

>>715130992
what a fucking retard lol

>>715130992
Fiction and novel hating is rooted in misogyny, when books and novel became popular the main reading demographic were women, which made men look down upon fiction and consider non fiction as the real man literature, which is retarded.

That's why most books are read and written by woman, men hate reading because women enjoy reading.

>>715142837
I genuinely don't know which is gayer, people who want to be fucked by futas or people who want to be futas.

>>715146112
There's no difference. People who distinguish can't cope with their own faggotry.

>>715145354
Men share ideas via nonfiction. Women can't comprehend anything outside of what they've experienced themselves, which is why most can't into history (seriously, ask women how long ago they think *insert historical event here* and be amazed at how retarded they are).
>That's why most books are read and written by woman, men hate reading because women enjoy reading.
This isn't even remotely true.

i like reading manga/manhwa romcoms. i've read a few lightnovels, but they typically aren't very good.
the only western books i enjoy reading are manuals/textbooks/other learning material.

>>715144962
>d-d-doesn't count because uh... because... because it just DOESN'T OK!?
Sorry anon but linnies are just as much reading as anything else.
It's words on a page, anon. Passing your eyes across words and comprehending their meaning for pleasure and/or knowledge is, by definition, reading.