Thread 715143057

Just saw infusion gameplay, why did styg move away from turn based kino?
Also, underrail thread

>>715143057 (OP)
I hate turn based combat.

>>715143342
You'll appreciate it more as you age

>>715143057 (OP)
>Just saw infusion gameplay
link

>>715143465
https://youtu.be/HmPsCNMuUg8?si=5hOUiLf0sTxhluzZ

Anyone got decent portrait packs?

>>715143057 (OP)
Cuz he's a nigger and there's a good chance that Underrail turning out as good as it did was a fluke. Think of how Fromsoft made Dark Souls 1 and never made anything as good again, eventually shifting genres entirely.

I tried so hard to like this game but something about the combat always pissed me off, felt like there was no point in being anything but a stealth master since ambushing your enemy was the only way to survive on higher difficulty.

>>715143057 (OP)
Underrail has realtime combat. It only enters into turn based mode once your character is engaged.

>>715143547
That looks fucking sick. Finally a game that may surpass Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. Underrail was goat too.

>>715143547
It's still turn base, the fuck are you on about?

>>715143057 (OP)
because turn based sucks ass. Rtwp is where kino is at

>>715143547
That doesn't look real time, more of you move they move traditional roguelike shit. Not sure i like it though, depending on implementation it can be even more retarded than turnbased in visual representation with square dancing etc.

Infusion's like a classic roguelike, it's still turn based but characters take simultaneous turns
Honestly I just know the fucker styg will make the timed quests a pain in the ass to deal with

>>715147147
Wouldn't it be better to have action queue then?
It's dynamic without turning into spam fests
Just have both turns happen simultaneously
I say literally everything else looks great tho, which is why the combat bothers me

>>715147147
>huge ass clock with date and time in the middle of the screen
He is not being subtle about it too. Hope we have some mods at least to reign in stygger autism.

>>715143441
This is also part cope because reflex time and quick sensory processing starts to go south as you age, but I agree.

>>715147574
Yeah, that's why you start appreciating it more
It's not cope, I accept you get slower as you age

>>715147683
Semantics, but it's cope because you have to reorient and cope with your new limitations. I'm not using cope as a pejorative in this context, but it's obviously a form of cope/adapting.

>>715143057 (OP)
because Snyg gets his rocks off to people calling him faggot

>>715147948
Fighting against nature is pointless
It's best to accept and adapt to your new condition than pretending its not there

>>715148073
>Fighting against nature is pointless
Agreed, which is why one should take proper stock of their life and cope with the practical reality of any new limitations that they might have. We're saying the same thing.

Will they add new Psy schools?

>>715148012
>some schizo shits on your forum
>instead of just banning him turn your game to shit to get back at schizo

>>715143547
Looks good actually, it's more like a roguelike simulturns but in the more advanced style like ToME. I like it.

>>715143547
>no more sprites
:(

>>715143057 (OP)
>, why did styg move away from turn based kino?
It's a nightmare to balance and every turnbased game devolves into getting the first turn and not giving your opponent his

>stygsucker doesn't even know what simulturn is
not surprising

>>715148860
Alpha strike abuse is mandatory in literally every fight, I'm not surprised he tries another approach.

There are other difficulties besides dominating

>>715149196
There is? Must have missed them.

>>715143057 (OP)
Throw me some Underrail slang you derailed pipelickers.

>>715150019
Pipeworker*

>>715149196
There's only dominating

>>715149196
proof?

>>715150019
Dominating is hella fun once you understand Underrail.

>>715143547
Will it be worth the wait. I am kinda ambivalent.

>>715150019
South UnderRail slang terms
"Zone" - gank, kill, gib
"Zoner" - Poor loser
"Pipeworker" - motherfucker
"Hardcore" - Awesome
"Dominating" - Badass
"Apex" - Pinnacle of badass
"Jack" or "Jane" - common names to address a stranger in a standoffish way.
"Drop off" - Fuck off
"Tin can" - Protectorate Scum
"Derailed" - Insane
"Mutie" - Partially converted human to Mutant
"tunnelers" - nickname for Faceless*
"Charon" - Stygian Coin made from supersteel whose worth outlasted the Biocorp that used it, engraved with the image of Charon (thus the nickname)
"Jet" - Usual term for riding a Jetski
"Jetter" - Person who rides Jetski

"Hopper" sounds like a slang and it probably started out as one for the creature, but it is now the agreed upon name for the hopping cave lizards that are thrive on abundant cave mushrooms which makes them a good source of meat

*Probably the least thought out term in the game.

>>715150083
Pipelicker is valid too, it's used in game.

>>715151389
You forgot bre, bre.
Do we have examples of Northern Underrail slang aside from xit and xell?

>>715151482
bre is from West UnderRail, where they speak an entirely different language.

>>715151482
XR, Xcell, and some other dumb terms. And AFAIK it's not common speak in Northern UnderRail but rather just from HeXagon. There's a lot of Northern UnderRail folk you meet in the game.

Which does remind me of a common Northern UnderRail slang:
"Ratter" - insulting nickname of the uncivilized Southerners

Did you notice that Ezra is a mutie?

>>715151670
>>715151804
Didn't know this, that's cool. Love such worldbuilding.

>>715151885
He's no more Mutie than Dude or Wyatt, so, probably incorrect to call him such

>>715152004
Nah, his scars are from removing the tumors and he has the same contracted pupil and white iris Abram has if you see his mutation
He is a modified mutie

>>715152004
You forgot about Abram

The Expedition feels so tedious. Someone explain to me what I'm missing.

>>715143547
Looking forward to the extreme autism.

>>715152148
Ezra is described of having his horrific modified appearance before any mutation.
>>715152178
Abram is an actual mutie.

>>715152198
My guess? You scuffed your build. I did that on my first rodeo there.
What are you currently jabbing at?

>>715152341
Nah my build isn't scuffed. Tedious- I'm trudging through what feels like a grind and burning charons faster than I'm making them.

>>715152412
hmmm......

>>715152475
tbf the last thing I've done is clear the Crimson Meadow Horticulture Center, which was probably the worst use of ammo and consumables, since I'm not on oddity xp.

>>715152628
Nobody likes the horticulture center

>>715143057 (OP)
nortubel > underrail

>>715152628
Horticulture center sucks ass.

Someone should make a new Underrail meme but instead of lurkers and deathstalkers they're locusts.

>Everyone talks about how Hardcore your fight with Carnifex was
>In reality the match was you just one-tapped him instantly without moving because you won the initiative roll
Maybe Styg is a genius for going for simulturn

>>715153061
Think about, one turn is approximately 6 or so seconds, DnD-ish timeframe rules. From the crowds perspective you mega-zoned Carnifex at lightning speed.

>>715151885
>>715152178
Who was the mystery man that helped the initial wave of Junkyard Muties migrate to Mutie Island in the Black Sea?

You think maybe it was Abram?

>>715153125
One turn is literally 5 seconds in UnderRail

>>715153275
Well, there you go, I was one second off.

>>715153061
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the system was badly designed and simuturn is the way to go. It works better for underrail than D20 games because you're just controlling one player. People got filtered by Pathfinder due to too many skills

>>715153218
Spoilers.
That's Kharon. You meet him if you do the mutant ending, i.e., get mutated when handling the war crimes mutagen mission for the Protectorate fascists.

>>715153061
It'll cut down on the dumb shit where you spend your whole turn shooting and then duck back behind a corner and nobody can hurt you, too. It's obviously bullshit when you get multiple turns of shooting but nobody's allowed to fight back.

>>715154098
that just simulates taking aim from around cover though. if we are forced to just stand out in the open and duke it out because of simulturn the game will fail

>>715154170
>the game will fail
I mean...the hacking system already looks like this.
>>715152276

>>715153125
One punch knockouts are great when they happen in a random backyard or parking lot, but no one wants to see a fight end in 60 seconds or less in professional combat sports. If I paid for a boxing match seat only to see a single punch I'd be fucking pissed

>>715154170
Taking aim around cover shouldn't make you invincible. It should make you harder to hit but it shouldn't disable enemy attacks entirely.
I don't know if Infusion will implement cover or not but if it does then the new system is well suited to make cover give you a defensive bonus, too. Someone call Styg and tell him he needs to implement cover.

>>715154470
>Taking aim around cover shouldn't make you invincible. It should make you harder to hit but it shouldn't disable enemy attacks entirely.
But that' just cause the enemy AI is half retarded and beelines straight to your last known position without rime or reason. They don't coordinate with eachother or flank intelligently. They don't take cover like you do either, so they are always standing in the line of fire. Which I guess makes sense since most enemies u fight are junky drug addicts, wild animals and rookie militias.

>>715154726
where is this?

>>715155007
looks like Styg's house

>>715143547
Now it plays like a roguelike (simultaneous turns) instead of a SRPG, but it still is technically turn-based combat.

>>715155396
So that's why I felt a familiar yearning

Hope it's not all just concrete corridors

>>715155450
Any other examples of games that play like that?

>>715155478
Underrail 1 wasn't so it's safe to assume it won't be.

>>715155632
Mystery Dungeon games, like Shiren and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

>>715155007
There's a few clues

Anyone else always go for Infused Hopper Leather armor?

>>715155632
Every classic roguelikes. Closest I can think of is Tales of Maj'Eyal since Infusion seems to use variable move/action speed instead of a strict 1 to 1 simulturn.

>>715157458
just from my experience with DCSS, it looks just like the AUT system of simultaneous turns to me.

>>715146016
every time I reinstall I just find the same ones on a google search

>>715143441
Rtwp>tb

Ah, nope, not doing this shit again

>>715158975
Just use the solver. That's what I do.

>>715158975
I respect Styg's testicular fortitude at putting in randomized puzzles designed to test the player's own brainskill and completely disallows writing a Guide that tells you "press 1 2 3 4 5"
that said holy SHIT fuck some of those puzzles specifical for mathbrained faggots with a background in music theory.

>>715158975
The mutagen puzzle melts my 40iq ass, never bothered with this one

>>715143057 (OP)
>Just saw infusion gameplay
huh, new game?

>>715159401
I like the mutagen puzzle but I can't even figure out how to do the music one. Maybe if I spent some time on it I could actually understand what it wants but I really don't feel like it.

>>715143547
a nice glow up it seems

>>715159873
Music puzzle is logical and straight-forward, but it obviously requires you to recognize in the first place that it's about octaves. I assume that like me, most people learned about basic music theory when they were very young, so it's no surprise most people have trouble recalling anything about octaves and shit. Either way the puzzle's reward is irrelevant for most builds and not vital to complete unlike the mutagen one (which is simple to solve).

>I'm going to make the sequel to my indie niche shit by spending 20 autistic years making my own shitty engine
why does this always fucking happen

>>715162151
If we assume the video is real and not faked then the engine seems pretty made already.

>>715157358
Bison leather for me.
Most /fa/shionable and gives enough health for 3con builds to actually survive getting hit sometimes

>>715157358
>>715162585
Infused Pig Leather Boots
that +30 carry capacity is amazing on all those 3 strength builds.

>>715143547
simultaneous turns is interesting in theory, but the problem is that it kills gameplay:
take a step. pause. take another step. pause. attack. pause.
there's a reason why nobody's doing it. regular turn based has plenty of issues like initiative being very strong, but at least it feels good to play.

>>715158975
I did both puzzles once.
To be fair I did expedition only the once too.

>>715152276
Looks like they're removing the "video game" portion of the video game. Too much autism, man

>>715147147
Did Underrail even have any actually timed quests besides the gauntlet?

>>715168129
No, but guess what

>>715168669
>game has feature everyone complains about and no one likes
>keep doing it
Styg clearly just wants to feed his own brand of autism and doesn't actually want to make a good sequel. I'm happy for the autistic coders out there that wanted this, but I have zero interest in the sequel.

>>715168669
this isnt a main quest timer is it

>>715168669
is that the year and time? I hoped Underrail would shy away from such conventional chronometric showcases.

>>715158975
I did it twice on dominate. I probably took 4 hours both times. Probably the hardest riddle in any game The mutagen puzzle is childsplay compared to this

>>715168669
There is no point in 24 hour time without sunlight. It changes the cicadian rythm.

>>715158975
Whatwas the point of this

bump

>>715152198
You are missing that you are a faggot with shit taste

>>715143547
looks like colony ship

>>715146114
People clear DOMINATING all the time as Hammer Wizards, and Tin Can AR is arguably the easiest way to beat DOMINATING. Hell, I beat DOMINATING with a fucking riot shield build with no points in stealth whatsoever.

Did someone say suffering

>>715178765
i lovesuffering

>>715178765
The more I learn the less excited I get. Styg's obsession with CBT will just mean I pirate Infusion if I even play it at all.