>Give me 20 years and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years and I'll have people in orbit. 100 years and my colony ships will be heading for the stars to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation. What I'm offering you is a ground floor opportunity in the most important enterprise on earth. What I'm offering is a future - for you, and for what remains of the human race.

*shoots u with explosive anti material rifle rounds*

Daily reminder house ending is the best outcome for the courier
>just as much fame, wealth and pussy as independant
>only has to do half the work because house is doing the rest
>when house eventually dies of old age you take his place

>>715145464
>not with a tire iron

weak

>>715145464
BLEAK
UNENDING

>>715145502
Nigga you are not outliving House, he's already existed for more then humanly possible

>>715145502
>+ when you take his place you're practically viewed as house 2.0

>>715145550
You don't think he'd share his life support tech with the person he trusts and respects the most in the entire wasteland?

The ending literally says house gives the courier every comfort at his disposal which imo would include advanced medical tech

>>715145502
>Courier can do all this and more without being House's butler
>Housefags

>>715145340 (OP)
source?

>>715145776
Fallout New Vegas

Post apocalyptic elon musk

>>715145776
New vegas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivEo_zyp1U&list=RDoivEo_zyp1U&start_radio=1

>>715145340 (OP)
House is interesting because he's kind of a progressive capitalist? I don't really know what the proper term is but he wants to uplift and reignite that spark of human ingenuity and spirit but only through his interpretation of what that is. He's generally fine to leave various groups be if they stay in their lane but knows he has to be harsh in a harsh world sometimes. Perhaps his biggest flaw is his severe underestimation of the Courier although that could be chalked up to knowing this person is a walking disaster zone and would rather not want to antagonize you.

>>715145524
Those dont work in the rifle

Daily reminder that house has 5 int and these are his mental peers.

But the real question is why the fuck couldn't we side with Matthew Perry?

>>715145986
I love this one so much

>>715145340 (OP)
Look at the state of the strip before the courier arrives, he’s not going to space in 50 years.

There should be a low INT option where the Courier kills House by opening his pod just because they think he'd appreciate some fresh air after being stuck in that thing for so long.

>>715145956
House was backed into a wall and running out of time.
The courier originally, was supposed to just be a courier to house. Get the chip, get his robot army, secure his city.

Then shit went sideways, his retarded raider tribes were getting opportunistic and he had a bull and a bear breathing down his goddamn neck.

Reality is without the courier he can't get the platinum chip and without the platinum chip he cannot secure New Vegas and it'll eventually fall.

House had no choice.

>>715146216
post the pic
you know the one

>>715145340 (OP)
How long until someone cuck him DeBeers style?
He can't move and must stay on ice with priceless medical equipment turned on 24/7. That's a big hefty vulnerability right there. Someone else will eventually take control. The fact he had to rely on a courrier running across the Mojave with a bullet in his head is proof of that.

>but muh bots

another vulnerability
Only flawless system is pyramidal structures with the leaders cloaked in a veil of secrecy and underlings brainwashed to fuck.

>>715147542

>>715146216
Pathetic, you call this a leader?

>>715147190
Very true, the whole thing was a variable he couldn't account for even with all of his preparation.

>>715145716
Rather be House's butler frankly, what do you stand to gain by doing all that management shit yourself

>>715145340 (OP)
Remember that the canon ending is the House always wins since the tv show has confirmed Mr. House coming in season 2.

>>715146702
>the Strip has only existed for 7 years
>House was forced to sign a treaty with NCR that says only the Strip in all the Mojave belongs to him
>and he can only have as much water and electricity from Hoover Dam as he requires to keep the Strip operating, no more
>NCR only signed him over that much because he had just enough firepower to weaken them in a fight when the Legion was over the river, and they're so suspicious of his long term goals they want him assassinated literally "just because" despite him doing nothing but run casinos for most of a decade
Okay, what am I meant to be seeing besides a man at a disadvantage with no resources or ability to grow biding his time until things change in his favor?

Because you're not seriously suggesting the shitshow he's been forced to accept to continue living is somehow indicative of what will happen when he's the undisputed master of the Mojave with a robot army, a hydroelectric dam and a desperate country of customers gagging for what he's got to offer, right? That would be retarded.

i go house because, if nothing else, all the other options are so boring
>NCR, generic republic, expands slightly
boring
>legion, generic evil guys, expand slightly
boring
>mary sue option for toddlers who screenshot themselves killing faction leaders to post on reddit
boring
>new vegas remains an independent city state with kino rat pack era aesthetics
simply epic

>>715147953
I wonder if they will make some ref to our character. I can see something like "Fifteen years ago, someone changed the Mojave forev-" and then gets shot in the head before they could tell the Courier's tale.

>>715145340 (OP)
*eats the platinum chip*

>>715145340 (OP)
why didn't he do that before the nukes fell

>places 200 mines around you then shoots a fat boy into the room your body is in and crashes the game.

>>715145524
>not a golf club

house is just enclave but mild

>>715147968
>House was forced to sign a treaty with NCR
other way around, even the NCR agrees they got the short end of the stick with the deal

>>715145716
>Oh man, I wish I had less free time to fuck prime pussy and shoot things and had to spend more time doing accounts and shit

>>715149030
>the invading nation with the army of thousands gets the entire Mojave except a few buildings and a strip of centuries old asphalt, including the largest source of clean freshwater in America and two power plants, as well as new trade partners in the casinos
>it's the NCR who got the bad deal
They got everything they wanted except total control of their new territory. They don't even bother repatriating the people who go to Vegas and lose all their money. They're just upset they have to give House that tiny fraction of power and water so he can run the casinos they willingly allow their citizens and soldiers to visit.

>>715145661
I'm a strict housefag but why would he give you access to the life extension tech? Why would the courier even want it? You serve as House's enforcing arm for matters he can't do himself. You being like house would nullify that. And what would you even do as a big computer mummy?

This is even assuming House could set everything up to do that in the first place, that tech is probably rre as shit or unable to be replicated.

why would you side with anybody when the player character is canonically stronger and more capable than everyone?

>>715149379
>The lifespan you're claiming is impossible, except for ghouls and super mutants.
>I see you've made a study of the topic. My knowledge of the science of longevity would fill several text books...
>Perhaps, after a decade or two of economic reconstruction, I can commercialize these technologies and offer to others, such as yourself.

>>715145340 (OP)
>>715149470
>>715149557
>people simping for House
>when Courier has Big MT and most importantly, Dr, Moebius in ones disposal
>and a whole nuke silo too
>can become immortal
>can nuke anything and everything
>can send stuff to orbit

You people and your slave mentality.

>>715149725
Indememedent plebs and their boring Mary Sue "Couriers"

>>715149863
This is exactly the point, running new vegas is a 24/7 job, independant courier spends the rest of his life doing accounting because he can't trust anyone to not embezzle or if a brainlet new vegas just collapses and the families form an alliance and have you killed because if benny could make yes man, somebody else can hack a securitron

>>715147765
>NEETbrain
Cuck.

>>715146267
I think that was actually meant to be a choice but they ran out of time. This game was basically built in a year.

>>715145502
House probably won't die any time soon, but he floats the notion of making you immortal, too, so I scarcely mind.

I don't care if he saves the world - that's nice, but not my problem - but he's an excellent boss. Doesn't micromanage you. Saved you from a shallow grave. Pays you a bonus above contract price foe your trouble when you deliver the chip, completely unasked. Luxury suite to live out of with all the amenities a mailman in the post apocalypse could only dream of. And all he really wants in return is for me to shoot some people. I already ENJOY doing that. Good deal. Great deal. I'll take it.

>>715145340 (OP)
Robert Chad House

>>715145956
House is a classic liberal bordering on a Randian ubermensch, except he ACTUALLY IS a proverbial Atlas.

>>715146959
That's an amazingly funny idea.

>>715145340 (OP)
Don't worry the show will dance on his grave.

>mfw every time autistic retards whose ideas will never ever function in real life and are incapable of introspection always out themselves by talking about how great House is in NV
>They never realize they're exactly the kind of failed "visionary" that his entire character is meant to mock and show the ultimate defeat of
Erry time

Ah, my favorite Anon. Got a (You) for me?

>>715149030
That's just the NCR being greedy. They want it all. House KNOWS they want it all. He gave them most of what they wanted but reserved enough piddling stuff for himself to continue to build his PowerBar. The NC, meanwhile, is so overextended logistically and so crippled by its nepotism-infested bureaucracy that it cannot leverage what it took and thinks House somehow "tricked" them.

>>715145716
House is literally just independent ending but you have someone you can (somewhat) trust to do all the bussywork. If you aren't extremely ideologically opposed to house there's no reason for the courier not to do his ending.

>>715149379
>I'm a strict housefag but why would he give you access to the life extension tech?
House prizes loyalty and isn't above sentimentality. In a high karma high competence run, he expresses genuine pride in and affection for the Courier. Why give them life extention tech? Because he esteems them and wants them around.

>Why would the courier even want it?
To not die of old age or horrible disease? No one is saying take it right now.

>You serve as House's enforcing arm for matters he can't do himself. You being like house would nullify that.
Presumably you'd spend the intervening decades selecting a successor. I don't expect House intends to remain a coffin dude forever, he probably wants to work on having a body again. Not that he's likely to go for nature hikes himself.

>And what would you even do as a big computer mummy?
Simulated sex with robot whores, apparently.

>This is even assuming House could set everything up to do that in the first place, that tech is probably rre as shit or unable to be replicated.
House personally designed that tech. He intimately knows how it works. Enough that he was able to repair it from the inside while going in and out of computer induced comas. The Followers try to get in on his tech and insta-lose. The man knows his stuff, he's not a faggot manager, he's an engineer.

>>715149725
Being a think tank is literally a fate worse than death and drives you violently insane. That is not a desirable alternative.

>>715151065
House wouldn't kill the player unless you play as an evil psycho or betray him, anyway. He only has Benny killed because Benny intended to murder him, and he takes no pleasure from it and finds it disgusting that you do.

>>715145464
>anti material rifle
i always carry 3 clips for my glock when im at the range so i can do cool clip change drills

>>715150624
Who cares about Bethesdas fanfic?

>>715150624

>>715149250
>>715150836
this is too complicated to follow, where are the explosions?

>>715151450
That's where you come in.

>>715145340 (OP)
Too bad my character has 10 INT so now he'll take over the Lucky 38, and with the help from the tech from the Big MT I will accomplish what he's doing in half the time.

>>715151330
>He only has Benny killed
You don't even need to kill Benny to get the Chip back and he doesn't remark on it if you let him escape to the Fort, Benny literally ceases to exist as a person to him the moment he's no longer in possession of something important

>>715151651
A 10 INT courier would be smart enough to recognize the benefits of just allying with house and working together. House is easily the most competent character in the game apart from the courier, killing him is just a massive waste of talent.

how low int to do you have to be to believe him?

>>715151814
I kinda wish there was a way to tell him about Yes-Man, maybe in the end of the final mission. Give some distinction between true believers and Couriers who want to keep a pocket ace just in case.

>>715145340 (OP)
Men like him caused the great war, the NCR learned nothing from the past and the legion knows nothing about it.

>>715147953
>>715148342
Why do you people fail to understand that the TV show is a separate continuity from the games.

House would eventually kill you because the chances of you betraying him are never 0% from his perspective. As soon as he doesn't need you anymore, you'd be dead.

>>715145340 (OP)
house is objectively the best outcome for the mojave. Yesman tards dont even (you) me

>>715152109
When does House ever act treacherous?

>>715152068
Has the showrunners or Bethesda ever stated that the TV show was a different canon? I can't even tell if Mothership Zeta is canon or a glorified special encounter

>>715151943
The show is non cannon

The war started due to material shortages, the tech of the entire world was based around nuclear power and because they were using fisson batteries to power fucking toasters and vending machines they ran out of nuclear material after only 200 ish years hence why they are reffered to as the resource wars

>>715152224
>Has the showrunners or Bethesda ever stated that the TV show was a different canon?
Doesn't really matter because I do, and in my own mind I'm God.

>>715145340 (OP)
>It's been 200 years
>Only managed to somewhat civilise the casinos around his tower
You'd be pretty stupid to think his robots not having access to missile launchers is the difference between freeside being a slum and spaceships.

>>715152208
NTA, but it's is paranoia you need to watch out for. If house was paranoid enough to start preparing for the end of the world decades in advanced based on some calucations he's paranoid enough to eventually start suspecting you if you don't play your cards right. I am 100% a house supporter but people in this thread are too generous towards him, he's still a pragmatic businessman at the end of the day and if the courier doesn't play the politics right after the game you will end up houses pawn.

>>715152208
If anything, House is TOO trusting of proven subordinates, and his lack of social skills or interest in human relationships makes him dangerously vulnerable to woman moments from his employees.

>>715145340 (OP)
None of this would happen. House would sit in his doll house and fuck his robots until his life support failed.

>>715152330
Well if we just headcanon everything then only Fallout 1, Fallout New Vegas, and 80% of Fallout 2 is canon.

>>715152351
House is largely pretty upfront in his deals. He doesn't really go around backstabbing people. Closest would be the NCR, which is a massive political entity where the feeling is mutual. And even then it's not like he's plotting to assassinate the NCR, just keep them off his territory.

>>715152208
He's loyal to the future of humanity, and having someone as powerful as you around is a liability to the future of humanity if you have a non-zero chance of betraying him.

He'll basically think like a computer algorithm and realize you being dead is better for the future of humanity as soon as he doesn't need you anymore.

>>715152351
Even if you play your cards right, you're still a human being, and that means your chances of betraying him will never be 0% from his perspective. He will absolutely kill you eventually, unless he finds a way to put you in a comatose state where you are no longer a threat.

>>715152342
House spent almost the entirety of the intervening centuries in a coma while his systems repaired themselves. That there's anyone alive in Vegas AT ALL or a dam to fight over AT ALL is 100% entirely due to House only. Not even people in the game who hate him dismiss that he shot down most of the nukes headed for the region (they just don't think that should make him king, or think he should be doing more now).

>>715152342
He also only had a limited amount

The bunker under Caesars camp is an automated factory that makes more

>>715152405
Sounds fantastic to me. That's my perspective more or less anyway.
>>715152434
If that were true, Benny would already be dead. So would all of the casino heads.

>>715145956
The term would be 'Great Man of history', but we can't use that any more because the faggot communists have to pretend they don't exist, otherwise their entire ideology is bunk and bullshit.
>All capitalists are just gaylord bandits who exploit the working class and deserve the noose
Is fundamentally incompatible with
>This Capitalist is lifting the tide and all boats are coming with it, look at how much better off we are for his existence.

Shit the guy that made the instant ramen cup is such an example, never exploited anyone, filled a niche in the market and fed untold billions by this point.
But if such men exist then not every capitalist is a hook nosed greebler who rape-beats his mine-slaves while shovelling caviar into his mouth with both hands between punches.
And that opens up all sorts of awkward questions that they don't have ideological answers for.

you had all the tools necessary to do so for centuries yet you did nothing
die you shriveled mummy

>>715145716
>why would you want to be responsible for the success of one job when you could be responsible for the success of ALL the jobs
bro that's exactly why i DON'T work in management

>>715152535
Benny isn't you, and I'm also not talking short term here. Imagine years, decades pass. House no longer needs you anymore and you're just a loose end that could potentially destroy him. That's when he will kill you.

>>715145340 (OP)
>in 100 years I'll have people on colony ships on their way to unpolluted planets
Nigger, given the average lifespan of people in the Mojave I'd be lucky to still be alive within the next 20 years. His offer means nothing to me

>>715152508
the gun runners did more to reindustrialize than house

>>715150508
>anons fall for the millionaire's promises
well this place is full of retards so not surprised

>>715152547
He was in a fucking coma.

>>715152392
cuck or fedora tipper?

>>715152587
There is no evidence to suggest that will happen.

>>715152624
>by the end of nv the courier can be close in with 7 biologically immortal individuals, he's also an undying cyborg
>but he'll only live 20 years
tard moment

>>715152405
thats completely plausible, the other fallouts are on the other side of the continent its very easy to just make them separate continuities if u want

>>715152624
He does offer you more immediately useful things. Money. Power. Air conditioning.

>>715145524
>not with Knock-Knock

>>715152934
>Courier, have you ever heard of toilet paper?
>Because boy, do I have something to tell you if you haven't.

But what about eh REAL America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNLT45WdCRo&list=RDsNLT45WdCRo&start_radio=1

>>715153019
>implying House wouldn't have a personal buttblaster pulling fresh aqua cola straight out of Lake Mead

>sell a dream
>"getting in on ground level"
yeah he's a con man allright

I love how every pro House anon is willing to engage with other people's arguments and expresses their opinions coherently and justifies them with in-game logic meanwhile yesman manchildren just post chad pictures and limit their arguments to "but muh courier better doe", completely disregarding any notion of how actual power is enforced in the real world.

>>715151065
>bussywork
mmmmm bussy

>>715153083
As usual sex supporters are smart and correct

>>715153019
I always take this perspective with my Courier. Here is a guy who has spent years living rough on the road. His normal day consists of attempts to rob, murder, eat, or rape him. If he loses a package his employer (the Mojave Express) reserves the right to hire death squads to punish him. And here comes a contract where the dude who assigned it saves his life from certain death, pays him a BONUS, sets him up in the digs only a President or Senator could have, AND says 'more where that came from, are you in?' He's gonna work for that guy. Because saving the world is nice but wiping my ass in a room chilled to 62 degrees Fahrenheit is far nicer. Let him run the Mojave, I don't want that.

>>715152208
Because there is a lot of money in play and a rather easy path to power.

>>715153083
>completely disregarding any notion of how actual power is enforced in the real world.
Not my problem

>>715145898
But house is actually a genius.

>>715152538
You don't know shit about the term "great man of history" and if you did then you'd know hat even communists use it.

The media literacy crowd sure does throw a melty over House. They are aware he's fictional, right? They don't even criticize him for good reasons, like the fact that he has the Kings killed for a dumb reason because he doesn't understand why they did what they did and doesn't care. Or that he has the Brotherhood destroyed not primarily because they're glorified tech bandits who would definitely oppose him, but because he finds their aesthetic goofy. Or that he's such a social recluse that he's unaware he has surrounded himself with people ready to betray him because they're myopic and they think he's weak.

>>715145956
>House is interesting because he's kind of a progressive capitalist? I don't really know what the proper term is.
Paternalistic capitalism.

>>715152271
The Resource Wars in Europe and the Middle East, as well as the final Great War between America and China, were over oil. Nuclear power came too late to save them (or America refused to share and chose war, it's up to interpretation).

America annexed Canada completely to give themselves total access to their own oil fields in Alaska and heavily occupied Mexico to secure the output of the Mexican refineries. China invaded Alaska for the oil and America invaded China to retaliate.

>>715153083
>completely disregarding any notion of how actual power is enforced in the real world
I'm a Yes man fag and that happens because a lot of Yes man bros, me included, treat it as the videogame it is and also a power fantasy. My courier would drop a thousand mini nukes and would subdue the NCR in their home turf while being Godlike and almost immortal. Does that make sense in-universe or does it respect the lore? Fuck no and that's the fun thing about it, if anyone causes trouble I can go and personally break their kneecaps, there is nothing anyone can do about me because I'm the best, it's like a personal cringy fanfic. I think that, objectively speaking, House is the best choice for the Mojave because it's just Yes man but with long-term sustainability, but my subjective opinion? My courier would rape all his enemies, create an utopia and fuck your mom

>>715153515
>Or that he has the Brotherhood destroyed not primarily because they're glorified tech bandits who would definitely oppose him, but because he finds their aesthetic goofy.
Did you play his fucking questline you moron? He kills them literally because of the first reason you listed and its got nothing to do with "aesthetics"

>>715153863
I remember him going
>Because they are ridiculous

>>715153681
At least you're honest about. You're cool in my book of anons

>>715153605
Micro nuclear tech was invented shortly before the end and of course the US refused to share it with their hideously evil, soulless, genocidal enemy.

>>715153970
>the US refused to share it with their hideously evil, soulless, genocidal enemy
But the Enclave got their hands on it anyway

>>715153863
Play the quest. The only bit of his justification that actually emotionally stirs him (very rare in general), is 'they are ridiculous!' You'll note that I do include his other reasons because they are part of his justification. Or maybe you didn't pay attention to that, either.

>>715154009
That the US was an evil fascist dictatorship isn't really germane to why they wouldn't share their military tech with a military enemy.

>>715153946
>they're a terrorist group basically
>Militant, quasi religious fanatics obsessed with HOARDING pre war technology
>Not all technology, mind you
>You dont see them raiding hospitals to cart away auto docs or armfuls of prosthetic organs
>No, they greatly prefer the sort of technology that puts people in hospitals
And that's just a part of House's dialogue. As always, the anti-house jew reveals himself to not having done his questline. Kill yourself.

>>715154107
Possibly because the alternative was a nuclear exchange that neither side was going to survive in any meaningful way? China had enough nuclear technology to completely flatten the continental United States, giving them what they needed to replace their dependency on oil and thus reduce their desire and need to take what America had, wasn't going to tip the scales against the US Army any worse than the western seaboard being reduced to green goo.

>>715154286
China would've done that, anyway, because they were losing the conventional war. Actually, both superpowers were plagued by more than just fuel shortage that was causing societal collapse. Mass famine. Unchecked bioweapons. Civil unrest due to terrible living conditions. Horrific, ecosystem-collapsing pollution. The Enclave simply banked on the Chinese holding off on guaranteed suicide long enough to finish securing their government-in-exile. They bet wrong.

>>715145716
In the House ending you are a wagie, but the highest tier one. Like a consultant who comes in once a week and makes 500 dollars an hour.

I just want to express particular antipathy for the 'House will betray you' buffoon because all textual evidence suggest he is FAR too trusting of subordinates (less because he's a nice guy, more because he doesn't seem to be able to socially model others' minds). Hell, the ONLY reason all 3 casinos can get away with having active intrigues is because he honors his agreement not to have devices in their casinos. He easily could - they're all just tribals wearing costumes and would probably never have noticed - but he doesn't because he figures he gave them such a ludicrously good deal they'd never betray him for more.

Your Courier goes Independent because he wants the whole pie. My Courier goes Independent because he wants to shape the Mojave and the world at large into the worst living hell humanly imaginable. We are NOT the same.

>>715146216
maybe snuffles is related to the hyper-intelligent rats from fallout 2 somehow

>>715155269
I always took the rats as just apart of F2s wacky jokes. I don't think they're supposed to be canon like the intelligent deathclaws. But who knows. FEV can canonically enhance intelligence.

>>715145716
A lot people are just mentally children and need a strong daddy figure to give them a direction in life. You'd probably get more NCR cheerleaders like the other two if your main quest giver wasn't a woman.

>>715155629
Talk about projection.

>>715155576
>like the intelligent deathclaws.
They are literally part of the story and can't be seen as noncanon.

>>715147693
>needing mutation and cyborg fuckery to get all 10 special
This guy just did it raw.

>>715145340 (OP)
>I'll reignite the high technology development sectors.
Sir I am just a courier and I've got mail for you here.

>>715155269
Maybe NPC SPECIAL wasn't something they put any effort into because it affects so little of the gameplay, there's hundreds of NPCs and you'll never see their stats without installing GECK

Or maybe he's a super smart rat from another game who knows

>>715145340 (OP)
nortubel > new niggas

>>715155657
Find the lie.

>>715155096
>My Courier goes Independent because he wants to shape the Mojave and the world at large into the worst living hell humanly imaginable.
My Courier goes Independent because destroying Old World technology is good actually but Caesar is retarded and just bad at doing that.

>>715155715
Not really. The Brain is in some real out of the way location in Gecko that you would very unlikely find in a first playthrough. And the Klamath one is not really intelligent. But hey if Deathclaws can be made intelligent and the FEV disk in the Glow says that it can also apply to rats and racoons, then Fallout might just be a world where Humans aren't the only sapient species. Who knows what secrets Snuffles holds.

>>715145340 (OP)
>100 years and my colony ships will be heading for the stars to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation
this is why i can't side with house, he's smart overall but has no idea what he's talking about here. without FTL travel + a telescope powerful enough to identify potentially habitable exoplanets his plan is a massive waste of time and resources. all his colonists are going to spend 50 thousand years in cryosleep only to wake up and discover they've landed on various barren rocks with no oxygen. if his plan was simply to reindustrialize the mojave he'd be the objective best pick, but his space fetish makes him a retard who can't be trusted with the future
>inb4 "ftl is canon because mothership zeta"
kill yourself

>>715146959
It's already sort of there with the one where you go "oh shit my bad lemme just close the pod again sorry"

>>715150232
>NEET
wut

>>715156084
>I can't side with House because in 100 years he can't just... build a telescope and invent FTL

>>715156541
I'm sure House has at least some exoplanets in mind or he'd just be talking belt mining and orbitals, instead. His cryotech is probably scalable, the superscience of this setting has consumer grade electronics working despite being out in a nuked desert for millennia.

Fusion torch or nuclear pulse ships would let him get to an appreciable fraction of light. At that point the real problem is frictional heating from the interstellar medium.

>>715156541
he could build a telescope, sure, but "just invent FTL bro" is insanely fucking naive lol

>>715145716
I don't want to run a fucking country. I want to be the right hand man of the boss that he can point at any problem that needs to be violently dealt with.

>>715156856
Big mountain literally has working teleporters
>>715156837
>At that point the real problem is frictional heating from the interstellar medium.
And functional energy shields

>>715145340 (OP)
It's a great speech, but I very much doubt he has the capability to do any of that anymore. It would take far more than 20 years to recover a sufficiently advanced manufacturing and worker base just to attain modern technological levels, let alone what was the norm by 2077. How much longer does he think he has in that sardine can? He's lasted as long as he has, but how much longer will the technology keeping him alive last before it starts breaking down? He's on the clock whether he gets the platinum chip or not.

The only person he has to help him is a knuckle dragging idiot with tard strength.

>>715156883
>I want to be the right hand man of the boss
gay

>>715145956
He's an Eastern Autocrat pretending to be a capitalist.

>>715156856
This is a setting where you can go to your local store and buy a fission battery the size of a 6 volt which will last over 200 years. It has personal invisibility devices smaller than a toaster. I'm not willing to just 'give' the anon FTL for free, but I'm willing to allow that developing FTL might at least be possible.

>>715153681
Cool thing about NV is that it's designed so srs business players and people like you can get something out of it. Why can't other games be good like this one?

The tech to do what House wants, btw, already exists and can be automated. Big MT developed molecular assembly devices as a side toy.

>>715157363
Star trek replicators too. The tragedy presented through the new vegas dlc's is that humanity was on the cusp of star trek tier science and civilization but due to retarded social and political ills still nuked themselves to obilvion.

>>715157631
>10 INT Courier with access to Big MT tech
This is how I've always headcanoned a Mr. House heading. The Courier reclaiming, studying and reproducing advanced technologies while Mr. House deals with all the administrative stuff.

>>715157652
House is supposed to be a Big MT tier dude, too. His equivalent robotics expert there is a jealous wannabe.

>>715157652
I wonder how much of the Great War was caused solely because the U.S. and other governments didn't want to share these great technological feats. Kinda fucked up to know the U.S. Government would rather use the Vaults as space experiments so that they can go while you die from radiation poisoning. The Enclave really deserved their Oil Rig getting nuked.

I don't trust House to manage anything in the new world. The guy alienated literally everyone who's ever worked for him.

>>715152109
>As soon as he doesn't need you anymore
House wouldn't waste a good employee just because the said employee doesn't happen to be tactically useful for the time being. The Courier would still be a strategic asset.

there's one thing we can agree on, and that is NCR ending is the worst one

>>715156837
>I'm sure House has at least some exoplanets in mind
i don't think he does, given the wording he uses - if he had even one good candidate picked out, why wouldn't he just say that? "my colony ships will be heading for the stars to search for planets" strongly implies that they're just going to be flying around until they find somewhere suitable
>>715157363
>Big mountain literally has working teleporters
fair point, their teleportation seems to be linked to specific preset locations but with enough research it could theoretically be possible to teleport to arbitrary locations. hard to say without knowing how it works
>>715157494
another fair point
regardless, i still think the space plan is a stupid vanity project and focusing on terraforming research would make far more sense. even if he thinks the earth is too far gone, terraforming mars would still make more sense!

>>715158070
House is known for wasting good employees. That's basically the fucking plot, he's wasted every single good employee he has

>>715158318
>That's basically the fucking plot, he's wasted every single good employee he has
?

>>715152109
>As soon as he doesn't need you anymore, you'd be dead.
He doesn't need you after the end of the game, but still keeps you around

I like how every House stan's arguments are just "things he said to me in a recruiting pitch"

>>715152351
>house was paranoid enough to start preparing for the end of the world decades in advanced based on some calucations
is it paranoia if he's correct?

>>715158540
It's not even paranoia before he's proven right, anybody with eyes could see where the world was headed, he wasn't the only one prepping.

>>715158518
Art of the deal. House believes himself correct so he's is correct.

>>715158030
Resource scarcity doomed the world whether or not the nukes got launched. The Enclave (and if there was a chink equivalent) saw what was coming and planned to save what they could and cared about - themselves.

Microfusion & fission, let alone dangerous prototype tech from the Big MT, arrived on the eve of the war and never would have finished prototyping to make it to scaling before the bombs dropped. And we will never know what problems or limitations that tech had.

>>715158306
You could probably convince House that mining the asteroid belt and Saturn's moons for resources to re-terraform Earth is smarter. Especially if you pointed out you could just drop an asteroid on anyone troublesome.

I think that'd be about a 6 or 7 INT observation.

>>715152351
Even a midwit like Sinclair prepared, lol.

>>715145340 (OP)
if house knew of the big empty, you think it would be possible for House to save the whole world?

I consider Mothership Zeta canon, but only because it indirectly confirms all the Chinese were killed.

>>715159335
Then how did the Shi survive?

>>715159335
>because it indirectly confirms all the Chinese were killed.
it did? when or where did it mean by that?

>>715158891
>Resource scarcity doomed the world
Nah the Enclave and the CCP did. Cope seethe dial 8.

>>715159712
You forget that Europe ran out of resources first and fought to a mutual defeat with the dirkas before collapsing into anarchy?

>>715160328
Europe was an Enclave proxy puppet by then.

>>715159419
They don't in my game, I help the Hubologists get rid of them.
>>715159661
You get a view from orbit. China noticeably glows.

>>715160328
they ran out because the US had more oil than they could ever use and refused to trade it with anyone

>>715160412
Source for this claim?

It is genuinely impressive that a thread about a 15 year old game can sustain a lively discussion on one of 4chan's fastest, most shitposty boards.

>>715160464
I take it Operation Anchorage is your favorite DLC for Fallout 3?

>>715160701
/v/ can be kinda cool when it actually talks about video games and not off-topic BBC /pol/ spam.

>>715160747
Point Lookout, honestly.

>>715151884

>>715161132
But you don't slaughter chinamen in that one. But yeah of the DLC that one is the least offensive for Fallout 3.

>>715145340 (OP)
>>715145502
House is unironically the best for the Mojave AND the Wasteland in general. I don't think he'll send people to space in that short a time, but he is the best chance at creating and maintaining a stable society.

>>715160519
That's not true. The US reserves were explicitly exhausted besides the dregs left in Alaska and possibly some in Mexico.

>>715161383
Look, I hate Chinese people, but I also like shooting mutant hillbillies. A man can have multiple interests.

>>715145340 (OP)
>>Give me 20 years and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years and I'll have people in orbit. 100 years and my colony ships will be heading for the stars to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation. What I'm offering you is a ground floor opportunity in the most important enterprise on earth. What I'm offering is a future - for you, and for what remains of the human race.
source:trust me bro
you can't even manage one (1) city you incompetent nigger
fuck you

>>715160701
Its a genuinely good game, good gameplay variety and all endings have their own good and bad points that cause endless discussion on which is best, its only really hampered by the fact the legion had so little content and that the devs couldn't make all the features they wanted to work in time

>>715149725
the independent ending is probably the most boring one

>>715158318
>House is known for wasting good employees. That's basically the fucking plot, he's wasted every single good
employee he has
Another prime example of a retard not having done House's questline. Kill yourself too

>>715161682
>you can't even manage one (1) city you incompetent nigger
What are you talking about? He's done a great job at running it, despite the fact that the main factions within New Vegas are elitist cannibals, Frank Sinatra wannabes and degenerate mobsters and he has two expansionist empires surrounding him.

>>715160464
do you not know where china is on the map? you can clearly see the great lakes surrounding Michigan
and the "glow" spot is just bethesda's poor attempt of the sun's glare reflecting off the earth, which they made too fucking bright for whatever reason

>>715162056
I really get the feeling that Anti-House fags legitimately have never played the game. They just make shit up based on what they've heard people who actually played the game have said on /v/.

they literally had to cut the option to spare the BoS because otherwise House would be too good of an option

i always go Legion because I like fighting the NCR but House is undoubtedly the most convincing one of the bunch

>>715162093
he literally doesn't manage the fucking city at all. this is directly spelled out for you ingame. he sits in his ivory tower and lets the three families do whatever, and surprise surprise, they end up having zero loyalty to him.

>>715162314
He doesn't even get mad if you kill the President, provided you explain you did it because he tried to make you pay taxes.

>>715162185
It's so funny because the fact House is so flawless compared to any other option (and btw every serious House advocate knows that the bs about into space is just PR talk that may or may not happen at all) DETRACTS from the game's writing.
But still it doesnt change the fact that House, as he is presented both externally and internally in Obsidian's title, is just the best option for the Mojave.
Every argument I've had on this board with anti-House anons immediately reveals they either havent done his questline or havent played the game.
>t. started as an NCR fag until I replayed the game playing for the House™

Also somewhat related, if you bring up the show onto House discussion you dont belong on /v/

>>715162185
Or maybe we know he's just a video game character and not my best friend I need to ruthlessly defend on the internet.

>>715155787
Tandi has 1 extra INT in Fallout 2 because she's older and wiser, while much less AGI because she's older and slower.

>>715146216
i always thought House was really good at calculating odds and probability hence why he is 5 INT but 10 LCK

but not smart in a "i'll create rockets or submarines" kind of way, if it makes sense. I don't really think SPECIAL stats matter much but that's what I thought when I saw his

>>715163107
There's no rutheless here, in fact house threads consistently have some of the rational and level headed discussion on the entire website.

>>715163120
That's a cool detail but Horrigan still has 10 in all Special stats. You think that motherfucker is charismatic and intelligent?

>>715162434
>Here's what I want you to do, do it and pay me your taxes and I'll leave you alone
>"No!" said Benny "I want to be in charge! I'll betray you before learning what you're doing!"
>"No!" said the Omeras "How dare you give us no oversight and let us do things however we want?!"
>"No!" said the White Gloves "We agreed to stop eating people but the taste is too good!"

Maybe the problem is everyone who works for him is a fucking idiot

>>715145340 (OP)
sorry chuds

the TV show made it clear that mr. House nuked the world for, and I quote:
"The lulz and shiiet"

>>715163702
what did the Omertas fucking want?
they just wanted to blow up people in the Strip for no reason

>>715163702
Maybe a megacorp CEO that can't manage people isn't very good at his job.

>>715163702
Well if his subordinates are fucking retards maybe it's his fault for grabbing random tribals at gunpoint and having them LARP as crime families? Literally the only reason these retards are in charge and doing the shit they're doing is because he put them there and let them go completely unchecked.

>>715163823
no joke, I'm 100% glad that they didn't try to emulate the game and that they are doing this alternate universe shit

>>715145340 (OP)
Didn't you just have to have a convoy of cows deliver water to your town?

>>715163849
They sold out to the Legion, that's why they were going to blow up the Strip.

>>715156883
You're the sidekick even in your own fantasy?

>>715164061
>>715163880
given that he couldn't fucking move and had to communicate via TV screens on wheels with literal tribal cannibals, I'd say he has managed pretty well

>>715164061
house has an intent and a vision for new vegas. i'm just a mailman, so he's better fit to lead

>>715163849
A bigger piece of the action

>>715150771
Sure

>>715157886
Dude, doctor 0 is on completely different level than House. Entire strategy of House relies on upgrading securitrons to mk2. Platinum chip was made by his company and personally upgrading securitrons is way beyond his abilities. 0 on other hand made far more advanced models in his spare time just because he could.

>>715163554
The fact is that sometimes SPECIAL is obviously relevant, sometimes it isn't, and sometimes it's hard to tell.

>>715163314
>but not smart in a "i'll create rockets or submarines" kind of way, if it makes sense
Doesn't really track, since he has demonstrable robotics and computer genius. Of course, that might be a matter of skill rather than natural talent.

>>715164061
I'm playing a character, not a self-insert.

>>715164618
So your fantasy is still being someone's sidekick, just with a different name,

>>715153019
I head canon my Courier uses pre war money as toilet paper.

Wiping his ass with hundred dollar bills.

>>715164761
No. Repeating your assertion just makes you look dumb, dude.

>>715153083
They also ignore that the wildcard ending is the Courier fucking off to leave Vegas to figure shit out itself.

>>715163849
You talk to Big Sal, or the other one I forget which, and they literally say they're betraying him because he doesn't bother keeping tabs on them

>Give me 20 years and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years and I'll have people in orbit. 100 years and my colony ships will be heading for the stars to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation. What I'm offering you is a ground floor opportunity in the most important enterprise on earth. What I'm offering is a future - for you, and for what remains of the human race.

>>715164832
This cope doesn't work when the character is a voiceless first person vehicle with no thoughts or agency beyond your control. You are acting out a fantasy where you are House's sidekick, not watching someone else do it. That is what roleplay is.

>>715155715
I miss them

>>715165042
Elon is too autistic to string two sentences together

>>715165101
You don't know what roleplaying is? You're playing a roleplaying game, though...

>>715165208
how do you know house isnt a pseud too?
they are both just rich fags

>>715165042
Not even close, House actually got an education and knows his shit about technology. Elon is a business guy who inherited his wealth and takes government subsidies.

>>715145898
Howard Hughes, zoomer.

>>715165347
>how do you know house isnt a pseud too?
>they are both just rich fags
that's literally how progress happens anon

i'm pretty sure Edison, Tesla, Ford, JP Morgan, etc. had similar speeches

>>715164424
0 can only build not program.

All his bots are tougher but also totally insane.

>>715165353
how do you know that house doesnt just steal credit like musk does?

>>715165042
what's House rank on Diablo

>>715165347
>how do you know house isnt a pseud too?
Because even if you assume he's lying about designing his technology, he had his family fortune stolen, started over from zero, and rebuilt a bigger and richer and drove the brother who betrayed him to the edge of bankruptcy and suicide.

>>715165042
Elon is an actual autist sperg whereas House is a genius

>>715165497
He also has access to factories. House does not, not until you win one back for him. Not sure why anon brings up the Platinum Chip like an own when House designed and programmed that.

>>715164061
>yes manchildren think a single man can rule a country let alone a city

>>715165550
>Duhh, what if my headcanon is real?
If House did steal credit, it would have been lampshaded in the game somewhere, it wasn't.

>>715164061
RetardGOD

>>715165042
>implying Houchads vouch for this faggot

>>715153083
I think New Vegas has spoiled me when it comes to politics because I fucking wish we had a Mr. House as our leader

i would risk living in a dictatorship (or an autocracy) if the dude in charge of it was like Mr. House, Trump is probably the closest we have ever been to that

>>715165497
Muggy is a simulated personality, he was deliberately handcrafted to be insane as a sadistic joke. House's robots are just bigger protectrons.

>>715164061
>t. 12 year old

>>715165826
Is House not a single man? Or do you think you'll get to "rule" with him as his queen or something?

>>715165347
The whole independence quest line is literally you copying house plan

>>715166189
Why the fuck would you make a death machine insane?

>>715166192
hungry? thirsty? horny?

>>715166103
I don't know you but if the closest to Mr House you had was "guy blowing up the economy for no reason" then I don't want Mr House at all

>>715166103
>if the dude in charge of it was like Mr. House
>Trump is probably the closest we have ever been to that

>>715145502
>when house eventually dies of old age
Least retarded house supporter

>>715166361
Because it's funny? Do you have no sense of comedic timing?

>you're a stinky tribal living in a desert eating molerats
>a securitron rolls up and makes you an offer
>you have to put on a clean suit and move into a casino
>it's your casino
>you can extract caps from NCR homos with it
>you can eat all the brahmin steak you want
>all the gomorrah hooker pussy you could want
>can probably rape the odd NCR soldier and get away with it
>that's the entire deal

why were they so ungrateful bros

>>715166103
trump is actually even less competent than mr. house

>>715166103
Why does Trump refuse to make the Epstein list public?

>>715166541
>Why does Trump refuse to make the Epstein list public?
I don't think he is in it but people who work with him right now are
i mean, they tried shooting the guy, if they had that kind of dirt on him it would've been used

>>715166481
>guy proves himself blind and retarded
>"clearly i'd be better if i was in charge!"
it was that simple

>>715166361

>>715166541
>He is on it
>Knows the second he'll make it public he'll be marked for death
>Knows the second he'll make it public the noses will plant false shit on him and ruin him and his family's lives
Choose your poison

>>715166324
>implying house rules alone
Retard, play the fucking game.
House gets to do what he does because he has an army of robots at his behest. EVEN WITH THOSE he needs actual people fronting the casinos and supervising/maintaining stuff thats outside of robotical AI capabilities.
You need people at your service. Ruling is a colaborative effort. Was Hitler Goebbles or Göring's sidekick? No you fucking retard. Power is a contract between parties in association. I wonder how sheltered retards like you even come into existence. I can't even imagine how dysfunctional someone would have to be to not grasp this stuff, though of course I'm replying to an indian's bait more likely than not

>>715166714
they put real shit on him and he skated, he does not care, and his fans certainly don't either

>>715166481
If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to want a glass of milk. A parasitic does not see generosity as benevolence, but weakness.

>>715166714
I really doubt the average trump fag would care
Like how the average lefty thinks giving HRT to kids is totally wholesome

>>715166103
>Inadvertedly comparing House to a jewish puppet
Amerisharts are the funniest when they don't even realise it.

>>715166189
>Muggy is a simulated personality
Dr 0 built a Securitron factory to make Securitrons just so he could dismantle them as a convluted Fuck You to House, and yet they're all murderously insane as well.

Keeping in mind you need to tell him to put a slash through O to make 0 and he treats it like some grand revelation when he's a fucking programmer and looks at 0s with slashes through them all goddamn day

>>715166974
i said it was the closest, not that it was JUST like him
or at least the closest we have been to an autocracy

>>715147657
I've never seen it before, fantastic.

>>715147953
CAESAR WINNING IS CANON

>>715145502
for me it's the hopelessly independent new vegas ending of no future, the canon ending.

>>715145956
Paternal Autocrat

>>715166830
nta but if thats the case then why hate the yesman ending? the only time the player works alone is when he burns all bridges with the other factions

>>715149725
>>715149379
Why do people say 'become immortal' as if the Courier doesn't stick their brain into the same longevity fluid the Think Tank uses and lets you just remote control their own body in Old World Blues?
If you want to live forever, then let you brain stay in the tank and control your body remotely. Why risk death at all? If you die, you're still in the think tank. Give your brain a few years or so and it'll probably figure out how to grow bodies to play with.

>>715148959
A man chooses (the tire iron)

>>715166481
Living as the slave of a man who cares about you so little that he can't be bothered to communicate at all sounds like a good deal. Until after decades and decades and you realize you'd do anything to break free, even bring the whole house of cards down upon yourself

>>715166830
There is no collaboration, the families are feudal vassals that pay taxes to their liege. They all would happily turn on him and he doesn't even have the means to stop them without the wonderboy player to do it for him.

>>715167053
Still, the fact you came up with a contemporary North American comparison is funny lol
It's like your whole world goes from Red mossad puppet to Blue mossad puppet.

>>715165101
>You are acting out a fantasy
you are repeating yourself
not everybody plays as a self-insert

>>715167326
>It's like your whole world goes from Red mossad puppet to Blue mossad puppet.
maybe not my world but the leaders of the US certainly do

>>715166103
This is a good bait if it was written ironically. For a face value one it's too obious.

>>715145550
Looking at his body it's clear he's reaching the end of his extension unless he extracts his brain, which he doesn't want to do because it drives you nuts.

>>715153083
u are mentally retarded
Courier is "enforcing power structures" in both yes man AND house ending. the exact same way. The whole purpose of like 50% of the quests in the game is that House doesn't manage anyone and refuses to do so to the point of his own destruction. Like jesus how the fuck did you miss that?

>>715167228
>Then surely you've taken into account the corrosive effects of long-term exposure to biogel.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/NVDLC03BrainTank.txt

>>715167307
Extorsive taxes that aren't even being used for anything worthwhile. If my hard earned money was spend in paying thousands for snowglobes I'd be pissed too

>>715167213
Maybe play the game? Yesman just piggybacks on house plan
You are in neutral standing with ncr

>>715149725
Probably because cutting out the postgame ending New Vegas originally had planned meant when Yes Man said 'Oh, I'm going to undergo some modifications to make me more assertive' it became very fucking easy to read that as 'lol I'm going to turn on you and the game ends before the PC notices'. I went independent the first time and remember being taken aback when Yes Man said that. We know now the intent was to communicate that Yes Man reprograms himself to only follow your orders, but that was never actually implemented, so Yes Man's words can be taken either way.

The possibility of a Securitron revolt sometime after the epilogue slides balances the sides to make independent seem a little more risky.

>>715167418
The courier is always a player insert (stop using self insert that is not what it means) whether you like it or not. You're just pretending to be someone else when you pilot him, i.e. playing out a fantasy

>>715166981
To be fair all the Think Tank are mind fucked.

Human Doctor 0 would probably have been able to think of the slash.

>>715152351
I know the TV show is not canon, but it does get right that house would either be in the Enclave or know of their plans. He prepared because he knew something was coming up, he also probably had his computers running calculations on the probabilities of a nuclear war happening between China and the US. He was not paranoid, far from it. He was prepared for the inevitable. Least we forget he was both in Vegas and inside his Pod when the bombs dropped.

>>715166481
>be retarded tribal
>kill people for a living (and for fun)
>been starving most of your life
>probably got abused as a kid
>be given tons of power very suddenly
>uprooted from your whole culture
>everyone is living it up
>eating better, sleeping better and have access to tons of women and alcohol
>don't want to lose it
>want more
>vie for more
>fail because you're still a retarded tribal with a pre-war coat of paint
>die
it's not a new story

>>715145716
i can't imagine a worse hell than having to deal with politics for the rest of your life

>>715145716
You cannot rrbuild infrastructure and stimulate the economy like he did without warding off leeching threats like the BoS, Legion, or NCR, no.

>>715167618
Rex's side quest

It'll take some prepping, but you'll have centuries to groom a brain doner to merge personalities with.

>>715167213
>nta but if thats the case then why hate the yesman ending? the only time the player works alone is when he burns all bridges with the other factions
I mean, usually yes manchildren have no qualms about their self inserts being able to single handedly manage the Strip by themselves. And being able to hold both the NCR and the Legion singlehandedly (even after Hoover dam), forever.
They never say who would fill in the power gap left by their baby rampages, because they earnestly believe the heckin wholesome courier would just magically rule everything better than anyone and solve everything. They're children and they think their meme route made for literal ADHD to foolproof the game is as legitimate as any other.

>>715152626
True, but its because it wasn't his focus. He clearly centered his efforts on laying claim to the land and making tons of money in preparation to when he could gain access to his bunker. All he did was build one of the biggest and most advanced cities in the wasteland in 7 years, I think he had his hands full.

>>715166645
Didnt Musk confirm he was on it?

>>715167669
>You're just pretending to be someone
you genuinely cannot conceptualize not self-inserting to such a degree you don't even recognize that you're doing it
do you think every writer has always written characters from this perspective? why is it so hard for you to understand the distinction between yourself and the fictional character you have created?

>>715167892
>Didnt Musk confirm he was on it?
confirm how
he just said he is on it like every other person on the planet that hates Trump

he didn't even appear on the flight logs
mean while Bill Gates and the Clintons have appeared multiple times in them and no one seems to give a shit

>>715155716
>YOU'RE A BIG GAIUS

>>715166361
Idk but Benny also did this, Yes Man helping literally anyone who asks is as big a blunder as the Repcon gouls' ship.

>>715166541
the "Epstein List" is a stupid conspiracy theory. Everyone keeps blabbering about "THE LIST" as if the FBI is secretly holding onto a list of high-level pedos. No one can explain what the "list" is.
The client list?
Okay, if the FBI had a "client list", AKA a list of people whomst Epstein supposedly traded sex slaves with or something... why the fuck would they publish that to the public? That's not how you catch pedos
The flight logs?
Alright, so you have a list of people who have flown on Epstein's plane. Fantastic evidence for child rape!
The Epstein list is a complete and total fucking boogeyman. I know that people are freaking out because Pam Bondi said she was going to review files, but that's what she said she'd do, and what do you know, it's nothing. They said themselves that there is no proof of Epstein using pictures or videos of high-level figures having sex with minors in order to blackmail them, but people don't want that answer, because they've already made their minds up. The same retards who believe Building 7 of the WTC was demo'd to destroy paperwork are the same people who believe this nonsense; yeah bro, i'm sure the government would demolish multiple skyscrapers to hide paperwork... and i'm sure someone as clever as Epstein or someone close to Epstein wouldn't just burn paperwork and drown hard drives.

>>715155794
The lie is you think you'll just "do it all yourself" when that would be insanely tedious, boring and realistically leave you doing paperwork instead of having fun adventures

>>715167892
Musk is an actual schizotard

shalom

>>715168081
Yes Man is capable of omitting information or being misleading, so he COULD have kept Benny's stuff secret; he didn't, because he fucking hates Benny too.

>>715156856
Reminder that Mothership Zeta is canon. Once House links up with Captain Lone Wanderer of the Zeta, and reverse engineers their tech with the help of Big Mt Labs, it's basically over.

>>715168094
Whether its a client list of direct buisness meant to be kept confidential, a list of supporters and benefactors, an ally list, a blackmail list because they have evidence of guests using these otherwise illegal services, or a blackmail list whobhave evidence of some law being broken, either way it sound rather damning and influential to how we would see someone associated with Epstein and Little St James.

>>715164061
Nigger, if you take House's place as Independent, your fantasy isn't roaming the Mojave anymore or fucking whores. It's constantly running logistics, managing funds, allocating resources, and more. Unless your fantasy is being a CEO-type figure, you are better off just working for House.

>>715168287
You're right, but then that also makes Benny's rootkit all the more confusing. I'm willing to bet he didn't program it himself, someone else had to have at least made the jailbreak for him.

>>715157416
You will always have someone above you unless you are a dictator or live completely off the grid, which you are neither.

>>715168445
>You're right, but then that also makes Benny's rootkit all the more confusing. I'm willing to bet he didn't program it himself, someone else had to have at least made the jailbreak for him.
he does say he paid a Follower of the Apocalypse to do it

>>715168175
yes, yes, everyone who disagrees with supreme leader is a "schizotard". Even the ones who were his best friend 20 minutes ago that we were praising, no they're TARDS and not to be trusted, unlike supreme leader he is always right.

I hate trumpniggers so fucking much its unreal

>>715168406
With a 66% odds of fucking that up and ruining everything, mind you.

>>715157397
>He's lasted as long as he has, but how much longer will the technology keeping him alive last before it starts breaking down?
He built and designed the shit. He clearly knows how to mantain it and keep it repaired. Its in great condition for being a pice of 200 year old tech that has been in non-stop use since its creation.
Even if the machine were to broke down he's smart enough to know about ghoulifiaction and would probably try to do it. I bet he'd also try to upload his conciousness into his central computer.
His physical health and age aren't that big of an issue with him, if anything his mental health deteriorating would be his downfall. He could get dementia or just go mad from being alone in a tube for so long. Ferals show that its very rare for people to stay sane for that long, so its not out of the question.

>>715168504
in sex

>>715168445
I'm pretty sure he paid that same girl who asks you to bug House's tower for it.

>>715166974
>jewish puppet
America has never started or even explicitly fought a war for Israel. We give them military aid, not servitude. We've given more aid to Ukraine at this point.
/pol/tards get off my board.

>>715167973
You're not a writer, playing this character wasn't some job given to you, nor did you create an automaton to go through the story on its own. You came up with a fictional scenario centered around your own POV on a whim because you want to see what it's like. That's what acting out a fantasy is, and it's what you're doing in any role playing game, no matter how conscious you are that the character is in fact not literally you in real life.

>>715145340 (OP)
he's like the Littlefinger of Fallout

>>715168504
>A helper robot designed to usurp the 1% but has a semblance of consciousness semi guiding him
That sounds like a total FotA move

>>715150441
this. House bends over backwards to suck you off and then asks you to do a bunch of shit you were already going to do anyway in exchange for unending riches and privilege

>>715147597
To be fair he survived the original nuclear war up to this point with all those issues, he has many safeguards in place otherwise another faction would have taken him down in the short time he has been a public figure

>>715161557
The fact that you call them "chinese people" and not "chinksects" proves that your hatred runs lukewarm. True haters would dehumanize them.

>>715168651
>We've given more aid to Ukraine at this point.
Laughably false and untrue. Not even 0.1% as much. Why aren't you kikes able to tell believable lies?

>>715145340 (OP)
ugh, no. you get LE BB gun.

>>715168332
people say this shit as if every single person Epstein ever talked to is a pedo. This isn't how evidence works. When someone says "Epstein Files" that could pretty much be any collection of info, and it probably won't have smoking gun evidence of someone raping a person

>>715147953
Caesar canonically won.

>>715150441
>having to deal with the NCR, the BoS, the Khans, the casino families and the Boomers until the day you die because you wanted to be the boss
>alternative is to end them and be the king of a giant scorched ash pile of a wasteland

yeah, no thanks, I rather not live in /pol/ for the rest of my fucking life

>>715145340 (OP)
>farts into your pod

>>715168506
>Even the ones who were his best friend 20 minutes ago
Musk was already pissy before implying Trump was a pedophile. He didn't get exactly what he wanted so he sperged out, as he always does. Musk comes off as a very fragile person (who cheats at video games like a child)

>>715168872
I think this is bait, but what reason would such a list without something like a buisness recipt or contract to provide context exist?

>>715168094
too retarded; didn't read

>>715166981
The think tank has gone nuts and lost most of their cognitive habilities. Ironically Dr. Mobius is the sanest of them and he's a raving lunatic mass producing robo scorpions all day.

>>715168947
This would objectively be the best ending for the courier. Hands down. Any other is pure cope.

>>715168506
>yes, yes, everyone who disagrees with supreme leader is a "schizotard". Even the ones who were his best friend 20 minutes ago that we were praising, no they're TARDS and not to be trusted, unlike supreme leader he is always right.
Elon's spergout can easily be explained by

>"Hey Don, I helped you, so you better import those indians"
>"no, that's stupid"

>>715168651
Everyone outside of your jewish golem state knows what the real deal is. No point in hiding shekelberg

>>715169046
the only reason trump isn't cheating at video games is his fucken age. that fat retard has lied, cheated, and stole at every other opportunity in his life. your admiration for him is a reflection of your deep lack of character and intellect. do not reproduce

>>715152342
He came out of stasis or whatever only 7 years prior to the start of the game not 200 years

>>715166981
I think the funniest part of the O = 0 thing is that it's an int SPECIAL check, not a science skill check. You have to be a natural genius or on mentats to figure it out, you can't just be experienced with computers

>>715169090
mmm... memtamts...

>>715168829
>Not even 0.1% as much
are you serious? We've almost given Ukraine as much aid as Israel and that over a few years whereas Israel has had US support for longer than you and probably your parents have been alive.

>>715168094
If you are flying to Epstien Island, what reason would you have? If the list is just a flight log and let's say 60% of the list did anything wrong, it sounds like phenominal circumstantial evidence to support a claim, or at the very least spur an investigation. If I see
>Donald Trump
>Spivy Toilets Inc
>Bill Clinton
Who do you think would be easier to rule out? And then you'd be suprised when the CEO of Spivey, John Spivey himself, is now facing an investigation for his time on the island too.

>>715152547
He only had 7 years dumbass

Jeffrey Epstein would go Legion fo sho

>>715169048
>>715169051
>assumes Epstein had a list of pedos on his desk
>as if even that should be released to the public
god, being a conspiratard is probably like living in bliss

>>715169260
It's an abstract social problem, not a technical one. You're not convincing a computer to interpret 0 you're trying to convey an idea to stupid brains.

>>715169475
>social problems
>use INT
you jest, but the devs were retarded and might actually do this. CHA had zero purpose in the entire fucking game meanwhile INT was a superman stat and could carry you even if everything else was at 1

>>715169470
>be big bad noncing boss
>richest people of the world come to your island to pay top dollar doing something they can't do anywhere else
>coerce and push influence to get major 'donations' to you and your island from your 'close relstionships'with these rich people
And you wouldn't have a list of those you can push the buttons of for dipping into the honey pot? Nah, I don't believe it.

>>715168652
>You came up with a fictional scenario centered around your own POV on a whim because you want to see what it's like.
Doesn't apply to video games because the fictional scenario was conceptualised entirely by someone else, you're just roleplaying within the constraints already set forward.

>>715155716
Nah, he got superpowers from radiation, he isnt all natural

>>715169176
he didnt have to cheat to win (twice)

>>715168656

How?

>>715169668
Charisma would be persuading them to call him zero without actually showing it, perhaps an emotional appeal that it would make him feel better if you did. It's in fact 0 that's only using his science skill because he can't figure out why they can't read 0 despite it clearly being right there. You have to think outside the box to find a (relatively) clever solution to the problem, with your INT

>>715091848
Been thinking of this, I think this is my headcanon best scenario. I'd work for House, but use my influence with House and and my fatass salary to help do boots on the ground work and healing Freeside, Nipton, and even make support groups to help heal the people of the Red Rock Khan chapter to help them ween off drugs without destroying their culture. Basically Brotherhood shit but with the funds.
I know House would scoff at half of it, but I may remind him of all the talk he makes about fixing and repairing society with his ambitions and for what purpose it serves aligning with my goals too.

>>715169176
One positive is that Trump has more meaningful uses of his time, buisness and these days politics. Of course he plays games with buisnesses and politics LIKE one would videogames, so really that's a little more negatively impactful when most of those buisnesses inevitably go under, as most do.

>>715158306
Well just send a thing to moon that acts as a reciever for the teleporter gun thing, now you have a way to pop on over, and with proper planning drop off robots to start building stuff until it becomes habitable

>>715169932
I'm sorry, but no. I can't accept this. Thinking of clever ways to communicate IS a form of charisma. ANY concession of this form of wit to the INT stat obviates the sole purpose of CHA, which is already the most limited and least useful of the SPECIAL stats (and that's just in theory, in practice it literally does nothing except companion stats)

>>715169959
House winning and then the Courier persuading him to give the Followers enough funding and resources to actually do their job is probably the best outcome for the Mojave in the long run. Build an actual fully modernized city-state that takes care of all of its citizens instead of building that meme of the massive gaudy tower block surrounded by a wall with a horrible favela built against it

>>715161682
You do know the strip was just a ruin inhabited by what is now the families only 7 years prior, and all this built up stuff and high class bullshit happened in that timeframe

>>715170219
Or just practice your golf swing on that useless old retard and do it yourself? He contributes nothing to the "partnership"

>>715163849
I think they defect to the legion, and become part of them with preferential tratment, similar to the great khans

>>715164424
Big MT was spared a lot of the damage from the war so it has been in full operation for 2 centuries at this point, meanwhile house was in a coma up till 7 years prior to the start of the game

>>715170170
You're not persuading 0 to believe something, nor are you convincing the brains to accept his demands. You're solving an abstract problem presented to you. Charisma and Speech aren't being used here.

>>715169260
>not a science skill check
You can also suggest he do it with the Math Wrath perk, which is programming related

>>715170425
But he's the golden goose generating revenue through the strip and inventing technology like life perserving pods, missle laser defense grids, and rocket ships. I cannot hooe to create whst he does, and only so much of his buisness is turnkey. I have no idea how to even negotiate with the Chairmen about keeping their buisness relationships with Lucky 38 going after House is gone. Shit, I couldn't even fix electrical wiring faults if power cables to the city start acting up.

>>715170219
>the Courier persuading him to give the Followers enough funding
He was already going to do that
>Well, some of Mr. House's projections predict a {reading} "moderate probability of civil instability subsequent to the NCR being driven from the Vegas region."
>One of the "mitigating contingencies" he planned was to enlist the Followers to provide increased medical aid throughout the region.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/VMQTopsYesMan.txt

>>715170954
He did all of that before sealing himself in a coffin, anon. The guff about rocket ships is a load of shit, only swallowed by gullible fools. The only thing he's accomplished since the bombs dropped is bungling the platinum chip, allowing the Legion to set up camp over his main forces, and turning all his friends into enemies through sheer retardation.

>>715170954
>I have no idea how to even negotiate with the Chairmen
You convince Swank that Benny is a fink easily enough.

Am I the only one who skips the brotherhood section of the game? I refuse to disarm and give my property to those freaks, I usually prefer to settle things in dialog but I hate them so much so I always wipe out everyone in the bunker. I’d rather hand my arms to the Khans.

>>715145502
But I went with the NCR because I'm a good goy. Though I did think I was going to get to use House's robots. That was a bit misleading.

>>715170775
>house was in a coma up till 7 years prior
The length of his coma is greatly exaggerated. It was a long time but he was fully awake for most of his 200 year exile, he simply chose not to interfere with the wasteland until a stable society formed and showed up.

>>715171192
I feel this way about the Silver Rush questline.

NCR is the best ending

>>715171095
>The guff about rocket ships is a load of shit
But he owned Robco and they were doing that shit prewar.

>>715145956
Galtist.

>>715171273
>Letting Oliver get away with everything because you decided to do literally all the work for them
grim

>>715167892
What people are talking abiut is the black book epsteins butler or whatever had, that logged every person that had ever used his plane, train, or went to his island. Most people in power in america and foreign countries had dealings with epstein, and trump was one of the names that wasnt redacted when it was initially shown, what people are talking about is the logbook that they want to be released without all the redactions

>>715171263
It's their fault letting the suicide bomber inside is too funny to pass up.

NCR could be doing better without General Sneed & Feed in charge. Moore is a psycho but that's actually useful, she should be commanding raiding ops across the Colorado targeting Legion logistics.

>>715171341
>Robco
REPCONN

>>715145340 (OP)
>Wanting to be ruled over by a narcissistic tech lich for a century
Chinese hands wrote this OP

>>715168651
Well, the amount if dual citizenships to isreal in out congress, and how many people in goverment go to isreal for some reason, while never going to the vatican even though our country is far closer to christian than judaism does raise interesting questions

>>715152547
He explicitly and literally did not have the tools to do that. That's the entire point of the platinum chip.

>>715145340 (OP)
He can't stand up to the legion or NCR. A single city state, completely surrounded by other, much larger, hostile states, is doomed to lose. He simply doesn't have the resources.

>>715147693
>>715155716
gameplay/story segregation

>>715171845
It's why he wants the Dam and the platinum chip. With both of those he'd have enough strength to defend his slice of land from both sides. After that he can work on the long game of politics and work on his own goals/stack tall

>>715171192
I won’t lie. The BoS questline is boring as shit. The quests felt like it was designed by FO4 quest designers.
But… Powered Armor. I need it. Unfortunately, it’s locked behind the BoS and late-game Glowieclave.
Funny how the NCR can figure out how to use vertibirds and run a pre-war dam but can’t figure out power armor. I know this is all because of balancing purposes but I still hate it

Shame there's no mod that lets you fuck Cass. I want my alcoholic, past her prime, down on her luck, no longer thinks she's worth a good man, wife

>>715172162
I really doubt there isn't a mod for this.

>>715172258
But would it be allowed on Nexusmods? That's the real coin toss.

>>715169782
Planting ""assassins"" to gain votes is a form of cheating.

>>715172016
>Unfortunately, it’s locked behind
Downloading JSawyer and removing the need for PA Training, safe in the knowledge that the lead dev himself thought it was stupid bullshit. It was added because it was in 3 and Bethesda added it because they were little babies who couldn't handle the idea of players getting PA from 30 minutes into the game at their "cinematic encounter" at GNR.

>>715172162
>wants a Cass hag mod (she fucks NCR troopers in your bed thanks to Avellone)
>doesn’t want a Veronica lesbian to str8 mating press conversion therapy mod
ngmi

>>715171273

only oldfags that played FO1 and FO2 believe that.

>>715172708
Veronica is my favourite Latina in the game.

>>715168032
4U

>>715172708
If you were interested you shouldn't have fucked off into the sunset, dumbass.

>>715172708
we are in dire need of a first person pov Veronica farts in your face mod

>>715172610
>Bethesda added it because they were little babies who couldn't handle the idea of players getting PA from 30 minutes into the game at their "cinematic encounter" at GNR.
I find it weird how Bethesda added Operation Anchorage which gives you PA training anyways.
>JSawyer
I won’t lie. I forgot to mention this. I also do the BoS questline because I’m a Brotherhood cum guzzler
>>715172762
>tfw there’s no option to give the NCR or the BoS the Securitron Army
>>715172852
true. who’s your favorite companion overall though

>>715168652
>principle only matters when it's some job that's offered to you
Slave morality.

>>715156883
>I don't want to run a fucking country.
I do but I always leave that job to Caesar. Ave True to Caesar

>>715173630
The point was it's your fantasy and not someone else's, but you already knew that.

>Actually rebuilding society by unifying the Wasteland from a jigsaw puzzle of fragmented tribes that would be slaughtering each other for decades more over crops into a single empire
>Acknowledges the rampant individualism and capitalist value divided and rendered weak Fallout America
>Creates a society that can survive and thrive in the Wasteland and then reform itself in the wake of the new world
>Slavery makes sense within the context of their expansionism requiring manpower and providing lots of PoW
If you looked at the Legion and just saw them as evil generic bad guys you might be an actual braindead drone or just some virtue signaling faggot.

They aren't just great, they are leagues ahead any other faction in game

The only argument people have against the Legion is that they are bad for not being some white washed bland crap and actually giving weight to society in the post apocalypse by logically applying social dynamics to the context of Fallout.

Also all the retards saying how they are not defined or have no character are fucking retarded posters. The Legion are far better written than any other Fallout faction. The writing of other factions boil down to "Robot bad because nukes happened", "Eugenics, we are evil Republicans and "Sham of a democracy that exists to extend corpos network of settlements to milk"

If anything the Legion is a fucking standout

>>715169379
Trump never went to the island, he only ever used his plane like 2 or 3 times, and by your own statement its the people that went to his island in the USVI that need to be looked into

>>715169687
Not something easily accessible that would also implicate you and everyone else involved, and not in some form of receipt like people think it would be as if you bought stuff at walmart

>gives you almost total freedom when it comes to timetables/methods when dealing with jobs
>no contract or agreement he's backed out of or ignored
>doesn't begrudge you negotiating for more pay
>only spergs if you do incredibly stupid things like eating the platinum chip or blowing up the bunker
>free penthouse
I get where people say playing second fiddle to House is gay but he might be the best boss in gaming.

>>715173878
>Actually rebuilding society
Cool fanfiction but a giant roaming army is not a society.

>>715168651
The Iraq war was specifically in Israel's interests.

>>715170947
And that is a specialized skill, and im assuming that someone that does those sorts of things would instantly be able to notice that O and 0 are different and be able to deduce why it doesnt work, because math starts using letters and shit fir some reason

>>715173878
Based. The Legion is one of the best writen faction in all of video game history, and it is a crime against humanity how incomplete they are ingame.

>>715173047
kys Avellone. this is why no one will hire you
>>715173321
Veronica BRAP mod when
>>715173878
>>715173632
The Legion is probably the coolest faction in Fallout. The 3 Amigos backstory (Mormon, Doctor, and an Anthropologist + Linguist) fighting to survive then turning into slavers makes for a kino backstory. It sounds better than whatever Amazon shat out

>>715174336
>go and deal with the Omertas/White Gloves/Boomers
>I killed them all
>yeah, fair
>I need Kimball alive, go and save his life
>I killed him myself
>wow, dumb but okay
When is giving you leeway to operate how you want too much leeway

>>715168651
>America has never started or even explicitly fought a war for Israel
interesting that you had to qualify with "explicitly" here

>>715172762
Meh, even then the NCR died with Tandi.

>>715173878
they weren't finished so they're not a good faction. Yes its a great idea to explore how humans become more tribal after the bombs but they spent all their budget depicting an american beuracracy all over again

>>715171273
>Dooming the world to repeat the same mistakes that got them nuked in the first place.
>Dooming the world to tyrannical capitalism
>Dooming the world to the same degeneracy that got us nuked in the first place
Dumb dumb

>>715172162

>>715171095
The platinum chip went missing because the bombs fell as it was being delivered 200 years ago, he was in a coma till 7 years prior to the game start and in that time secured the strip along with drawing in the local tribals to turn into a fascimile of civilization, got robots to secure the city itself militarily, negotiated with an large expansionist govt to stay independent of them and using them to fight off another similar group, and all he needs now is that chip to gain full control of a large and upgraded securitron army that can cement his control of the region all in less than a decade from scratch

>>715153083
Some playthroughs I accept House's reasonable offer and the idea he'd benefit mankind.
Some playthroughs I've decided war never changes, and neither do men.

>>715171192
If you go there with Veronica you skip all that and never have to disarm

>>715171650
>muh heckin christianity!
youre on 4chan

>>715174765
>>Dooming the world to repeat the same mistakes that got them nuked in the first place.
lmao imagine thinking that's accurate or would be limited to NCR

>>715173878
>If you looked at the Legion and just saw them as evil generic bad guys you might be an actual braindead drone or just some virtue signaling faggot.
Or because you sae the bad shit they did, to their own people even, and came to the conclusion they castrate themselves out of tradition, except its a new tradition because Caesar wants to be adaptable to the harsh realities of the wasteland and synthesize old functional ideals with modern counters and answers to issues.
Honestly, look at your picture. Any society that believes this systematically is inferior, you disrespect 50% of your population that could be a potential workforce, military, scholars, because of a regressive belief that cannot be proven. If the argument was soley "women need to bear children and cannot be dostracted from this most important task" I could understand if that exludes them from being assigned to physical labor and other external dangers in your world, but it's a statement made out of backwards ANCIENT beliefs.
Really, I appreciate the Legion for being a faction of "harsh times call for harsh measures, survival and rebuilding stability is more important than comforts", but 2 major flaws with that;
>the legion lacks logicical justification for all of these beliefs
Slave labor, indoctrination to give all to the state and leader with an iron fist, I understand. I do not understand the need for pseudo religious condemnation or enforcement on those beliefs to other societies, and only appears as a philosophy that simply funnels into the belief the Legion should be all-consuming and take over all people.
Why don't they use guns 90% of the time? Why's medicine treated as witchcraft unless it's Caesar's personal autodoc?
>they aren't stable at all
They are raiders, they make no exports and destroy most all resources they could to produce exported commodities. The society will collapse upon itself when they take over the west and realize they only focus on production of agriculture.

>>715174448
it was in the interest of quite a few countries, because Iraq was a nigger country in the 90s

>>715174954
Sorry, can't hear you. Try taking that brahmin baron's cock out of your mouth, first.

>>715175050
>Sorry, can't hear you
clean your ears out, commie lmao

>>715174390
>doesnt know the Legion backstory
at least play the game
>>715174336
I feel like they purposely made him enticing to stay with because if you look at the bigger picture… He’s not doing shit. Even the Freeside ending slide admits that. When the NCR and Legion occupy an area, they make sure to bring law & order with them. House just stays in his snow globe (New Vegas) all day and doesn’t actually do shit. Hell, Heck Gunderson the NCR Brahmin Baron feeds half the fucking area

>>715174639
nothing wrong with that

>>715174976
>They are raiders, they make no exports and destroy most all resources they could to produce exported commodities. The society will collapse upon itself when they take over the west and realize they only focus on production of agriculture.
Your entire post is wrong, but this part takes the cake. Legion territory is the safest and most stable territory in the entire Fallout world.

>>715145340 (OP)
courier becomes the king of the big mt anyway
house can't even imagine what kind of tech is there

>>715168651
If the US explicitly went to war to defend Israel it'd make the goycattle start questioning too many things. The juden need to keep a low profile to get away with all those atrocities

>>715174336
>>715174632
It is LITERALLY the people who are too proud to take orders from someone who has been in the game much much longer than you that can't stand House but autolock to Yes Man at the drop of a hat. T some small credit House is rather presumptuous and rude and I can understand if someone's feefees are hurt, but it's a turing test to see if you have the patience and maturity to handle a little abbrasion to get shit done. But I'm sure a large number of the people I just described get fired at their jobs working at a grocery store or Burger King because their boss told them to do something in a way that made them feel disrespected and they chimped out.

>>715171249
He was in a coma for several decades, and at some point he detected scouts roaming the mojave, he then recruits the 3 families and them plus his securitrons were able to bring the ncr to the bargaining table because of the further pressure on the ncr from the legion

>>715169135
Musk is more pissed off about Trump getting rid of subsidies and regulatory credits for EVs than the whole H1B Indian thing.
The credit thing is especially bad for Musk. Tesla's FY 2024 income was $409m, and $595m of that was from selling credits. Without those, Tesla would be $186m in the red.

>>715171845
The dam gives him the hydro electric power along with lake mead, a source of clean water, and the platinum chip gives him a powerful robot army, everything hinges on the platinum chip activating the bunker below the legion camp

>>715175147
Revolution and revolt often happen typically after the masses fail to recieve nessesities no matter how well controlled those masses are initially. I certainly have total belief that Legion territories are "safe", if you define "safe" meaning the law is complied with. Do you count getting executed or tortured for desserting an army as safe? Or whipped to death because you lost the genetic lottery and would up as part of an oppressed class?
I still haven't seen or heard evidence why women are inferior and should be excluded from being a part of any upper level organization or soldiers.

>>715145340 (OP)
Nice colony ships. It'd be a shame if someone were to vaporize anything leaving Earth's atmosphere.

>>715175507
>Revolution and revolt often happen typically after the masses fail to recieve nessesities no matter how well controlled those masses are initially. I
Pseudo-intellectual nonsense

>Do you count getting executed or tortured for desserting an army as safe?
Yes. Just don't desert.

> Or whipped to death because you lost the genetic lottery and would up as part of an oppressed class?
This doesn't happen

>I still haven't seen or heard evidence why women are inferior
Then you aren't looking hard enough, or at all.

>>715175120
How is he not doing shit? He only owns the strip everything else falls under ncr rule as they made a bunch of deals abiut, he says this in dialogue, but if you paid attention to the ending slides you would see what he does

>>715174976
>le ancient beliefs are bad because they are le ancient
don't you have some HRT to inject? some axe wound to clear of pus?

>>715175575
They only vaporise stuff coming from the East coast. Even the ayy lmaos know that the retardation of Bethesdas writing needs to be contained.

>>715174976
Gross. A woman just posted ITT.

>>715175726
Anon, go back to drinking mercury.

>>715145502
Don't forget the special duster with the "Fell for it again" text on the back

>>715145716
Leave the busywork to him. I'll just be the good karma guy who solves all the problems without murdering everything every time. The House ending is genuinely too good and it's no wonder everyone always ends up coming around to it.

>>715175120
Legion isn't a society. Anyone who did play the game instead of writing fanfiction knows that.

>>715175783
>>715175726
>>715175669
>b-b-but women have always le sucked!
Enjoy larping in your furry suits, legion friends, the rest of society has to focus on rebuilding.

>>715173878
I think the problem with the legion is that house is just them but better

>>715175927
Go wash your vagina. It stinks like dead fish. Men are talking here.

What fucks me up about this game is people act like it has a bulletproof narrative when the entire story relies on a hydroelectric dam. Even if the dam was salvageable after 200 years of neglect and Nevada never experienced drought conditions ever again, it's incredibly easy to fuck up a hydroelectric dam. India did it more than once because if your water source gets filled with garbage, water has trouble passing through, and the garbage itself will cause damage to the dam that's difficult to remove and will leave you with brownouts. Oh, I lost Hoover Dam to Mr. House? I'll just send people to dump crap into Lake Mead until it's not functional anymore. Oh, he sent Securitrons to defend Lake Mead? Well now Vegas is less protected and I can probe that. Now who's fighting a war on too many fronts, dickhead? Also Securitrons are on "layaway", right? There's no factory manufacturing more of these insanely labor-intensive, precise robots that require copious amounts of materials, right? What happens if literally any force in the world decides to engage in Putin tactics, where their fighting force is comprised of fighting-age men whose lives are worthless outside of being spent to take out a Securitron? Humans can have babies, House can't produce his robots faster than I can have my plebs reproduce. There's just so much about this game's plot that is all fucked up if you know dick about what it's talking about.

>>715145340 (OP)
I'll give you my tire iron, nukafaggot

Legion questline was incomplete even with two dlc's about them

>>715176020
And they're landlocked if Bethesda fallout is canon they're fucked

>>715176098
I wonder why Obsidian never did a Broken Steel style DLC to patch up the broken shit in the base game.

ITT: slaves fighting over whose dick tastes best

Couldn't be me. Show some ambition, why don't you?

>>715176020
dev logic is that the dam is made of nintendium
Even getting bombed by a bomber doesn't dent it

>>715175252
>Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition p.454: "2138: Mr. House regains consciousness"
The game takes place in 2281. That means he built New Vegas in 2274. That's 61 years in a coma, 136 doing nothing.

Honestly I just rate the factions based on which one would be the most able and willing to provide me, a hypothetical average citizen, with functioning toilets again.
So that's House > NCR > Legion > Independent

>>715174976
>>715175507
>Revolution and revolt often happen typically after the masses fail to recieve nessesities no matter how well controlled those masses are initially
>enforcement on those beliefs to other societies, and only appears as a philosophy that simply funnels into the belief the Legion should be all-consuming and take over all people
Play the games pl0x. The Legion is practically a night-watchman state or a minimal state. They enforce law & order in exchange for tribute but they don’t do anything else outside of that. They simply killed all the raiders, protect communities, and now those communities run themselves. The Legion protect nearly 4 states and more caravans are starting to trade with the legion because it’s safer & cheaper than the NCR. The only problem I see that destroys all of this is Legion infighting due to slave reliance & the fact that the Legion is ran by retarded tribals. Rebellion & revolution wouldn’t happen because most communities under the Legion only benefit under them and life before the Legion was way worse. Raul tells you this
>>715175147
>>715175385
This lmao
>>715175714
Look at the Freeside ending. It goes to shit in the Mr House ending. How do you think other communities would fair under House?

>>715176213
Sawyer's on record somewhere stating they didn't to "finish the game" with "mandatory" DLC. They accepted the game was incomplete and left the DLC as entirely optional sidestory content.

>>715176213
if you remember how buggy the game was at launch without all these patches and mods you'd understand. the dlcs were a way for them to create a self contained experience without the instability of the mojave to introduce tons more bugs.

>>715176020
>people act like it has a bulletproof
Who says this? It isn't the believability on the specific asspulls that lets the courier be at the right place/time constantly that people praise this game, it's the fact that those asspulls crrate a scenario that depict the true zero-sum gain of irl politics very well, and often how imperfect any solition to crisis and societal repair or even maintinence are.
The only counterpoint I'll make to your narrative flaws is that Lake Mead is treated like a really rare source of fresh water untainted by radiation like so much of the world now is, to bomb it and ruin the water supply to anyone would be a Pyrrhic victory of the greatest calibur. In fact not just the water itself, but destroying it would ruin its value to anyone. This is a wasteland, if you aren't in the strip you have no gurantee of food or water, even hunters who patrol the lands have little resources to hunt or scavenge, a large amount of what they do find is riddle wirh radiation and often unusable.

>>715176020
population levels aren't that great. takes at least 10 years for you to even get to child soldiers, if your game is to breed and out-attrition him that way

in 10 years he can easily start building new robots or recruiting humans of his own to kill yours

where are you going to get food to supply your burgeoning population?

literally the largest faction in Fallout canon (NCR) opted not to bother since it would be wasteful

>>715175927
>everyone who disagrees with me is a legionfag
relax bronem. How's giving voting rights to women going btw?

>>715176758
Pretty great, thanks. Have you found your 3rd world dream country where they keep women down, or are you still saving up money for a plane ticket there to passportbro her over?

>>715145550
There's plenty of people in the fallout universe who have lived as long as him.

>tfw played the trilogy but unable to participate in this thread
Where the fuck do you cunts get all of this information from? I just played the game and completed quests.

It would seem my superiority has lead to some controversy.

>>715172610
and then they added Operation: Anchorage which gives you power armor training AND the two best suits of armor in the entire game literally as soon as you leave Vault 101

>>715176951
Through mutations perhaps

>>715176975
Wiki diving is the most likely answer but you could also be someone that's playing Fallout 2 for the 8th time.

>>715177013
>have House painted with Liberty Prime
>so it's no longer even an implication just a flat out confirmation that he deliberately built this useless giant hunk of junk to mock the Enclave while building something that would survive down in Nevada

>>715175920
What Sawyer is talking about is called minarchism. Very underrated society type imo

>>715168996
House ending means the upgraded robots will be taking care of those factions for the most part, and you're not managing the robots. Still seems like the better deal to me.

>>715176975
I miss so many details when playing through and there are lots of info you only get when doing a quest or line a specific way but miss the other way. Wiki diving and video essays honestly told be 3 times more than playing the game did.

>>715176902
dual passport holder actually
being a mixed race mutt has got to have some upsides after all

>>715176479
Go read the endings yourself, if you have them become allies of the ncr house treats them bad, if they arent allies then he likes them

>>715176975
Read, nigger. Read.

>>715176975
read the fucking optional dialogues nigger

>>715177532
Based
I hope to globetrot one day.

>not picking the Elijah nerve gas ending to wipe the slate clean
Retards

>>715177543
House sissies???? Is there a counter argument to this???

>>715176020
>and Nevada never experienced drought conditions ever again
Lake Mead is only drying up now because like 5 million people are using it up with absolutely 0 regard for water conservation. In a post-apocalyptic world where the entire southwest has fewer people in it than the Las Vegas metro area alone does now, Lake Mead would have more water in it than you could dream of using

>>715177729
>do write Yes Man explaining House was going to give money to the Followers
>do not write ending where House gives money to the Followers
Rushed, unfinished game

>>715177668
>I hope to globetrot one day.
it's one of the upsides of modern day that keeps people from mass revolting/killing themselves. I was in the czech republic for less than a week and had so much fun. A lot of czechs are assholes but that only made me like them more desu

>>715145340 (OP)
Mr. House put tits on his robots.

>>715177729
the followers were retarded. why did they think ousting House would be good for Freeside

>>715177984
But House's robots do have boobs, he invented Assaultrons

>>715177590
>>715177621
This.
>>715176975
>>715177258
I won’t lie. You have to be autistic like us to remember small details from dialogue, holodisks, and terminal entries. You weren’t cut out to be Fallout fans

>>715164370
Is that my wife.

>>715177984
wtf i love house now

>>715178068
She looks perfect. Perfect for selling her pelts at 125$ a piece

>>715178061
I think you misread.
>>715178117
I wish they didn't cut out the second securitron sexbot.

>>715177729
>>715177870
the Followers get fucked by the Yes Man ending even if you convince them to ally with you before you go to Hoover Dam

unironically my biggest gripe with the game is that the Followers' ending is entirely based on who you side with at the end when they're involved in like half a dozen quests and multiple companion quests also give you the option of somehow helping them out. It's infuriating that they get the same ending if you completely ignore them as they do if you do every single one of their quests, convince Veronica and Arcade to help them, give ED-E to them, and grind the chem donations up to idolized

>>715178001
Guess which ending All or Nothing is sweaty.

Reminder that House's life extension tech hasn't been fully tested, he was in a coma for most of the time and his mind didn't get subjected to the stresses of a long lifespan like the ones he disparages. His physical body has horrifically withered and his immune system is completely gone.

>>715176540
You can tell from avowed that they can't into coding

>>715178208
>robot with human face
whats the point

>>715177870
True.
>>715178001
Everyone knows this. Even the Kang thinks they’re retarded

i like the stealth suit that talks to you

>>715178282
House went into a coma because he was over-reliant on the Mk2 OS he didn't receive in time. He already had the bugs patched out, he just didn't prioritise getting that patch to his pod before getting in it.

>>715178282
The fact house fags worship a guy who will literally be lethally wounded by exposure to air for 2 seconds is always so funny. It may be the "boring" answer, but NCR is so unambiguously the good guys and best choice it's not even a competition, anyone declaring any other faction is even remotely close is a certified retard.

House is the purest definition of a psychopath, he's not sadistic, but he possesses absolutely no compassion and will never do anything that doesn't directly benefits him. House lets children starve to death outside the walls (and he's the one who kicked them out) when it would barely cost 5 minutes of profit for him to prevent it. Meanwhile the NCR are such goody-two-shoes they help fucking Khans, who are all degenerate scum deserving of a bullet. The only good Khan is the one who left them, Bitter-Root, and he says they should all be exterminated.

>>715178375
Your talking stealth suit doesn’t even give you a stealth field, you gweilo fuck. Imagine pouring all those resources into that just for the chinks to still beat you.
I won’t lie. The stealth armors don’t fit the atompunk setting but damn it looks cool

>>715178228
The followers were too 'perfect'
They are one of the most intelligent factions, completely neutral, large stockpile of resources and total pacifists with good karma. It makes sense in fallout that they would get run over by most forms of government that set up shop

>>715178837
>large stockpile of resources
Who’s gonna tell him?

>>715178693
>House lets children starve to death outside the walls (and he's the one who kicked them out)
You know who has all the food? NCR
You know who has all the Squatter refugees cluttering up Freeside? NCR
You know who isn't feeding anyone OR helping their own citizens? NCR

But do go on about NCR is the Obvious Good Guy Option

>>715178693
>the good guys are incompetent californian government officials who give welfare to everyone including drug dealers and illegals

>Support House / Independent NV
>You're a big deal in Vegas, a hot arid desert shithole. Maybe a dictator. Wow.
>You can gamble, I guess.

>Support the NCR
>A big deal, not quite AS big a deal, but a beloved hero across all of California, Beja and Oregan plus any and all territory the NCR and also be rich as fuck from all your adventuring plunder

Yeah, think I'll stick with the good goy option.

>>715179213
>The Courier, fair and even-handed in his/her dealings throughout the Wasteland, was honored by the NCR for his/her support of the military at Hoover Dam. He/she was presented with the Golden Branch, the highest civilian decoration given by the Republic
A
FUCKING
TWIG

>>715145340 (OP)
>Source: Trust me bro.
Courier: You had 200 years from the end of world to the date already and I cannot believe you would "gamble" all in a stupid platinum 'chip' with no backup systems.
Actually, it is kind of impressive you could track the damned gizmo and count on it not being damaged after it withstood the nuclear war and 200 years of cumulative damage over time. For all means, it could had been lost under tons of rubble somewhere in the Mojave with no hope of it ever being found or it could had been found and on its way to Denver or who-knows where else in 200 years since for all that matters it just looks like a shiny bottlecap.

Sorry, sir but it seems the strip would be better under new management.
*unplugs you

>>715147693
I never interacted with that big fucko on my first playthrough, I armed the turrets and the guy was DOA. It was like a Venture Brothers episode.

>>715178228
That’s true. They should’ve incorporated everything you did for the Followers and included the House/Yes Man donation dialogue into the ending slides. But, Avellone thought it was more important to put in Cass NTR instead.
Let me be clear. I’m no faggot that cries “OH NO SHE DIDNT SLEEP WITH ME!!!” but I looked at all the ending slides and for some reason… the Cass ending SPECIFICALLY made for the male courier ONLY doesn’t reveal any character development for Cass

>>715179334
It's ceremonial. You already have all the glory and the riches from your adventures.

f3 and nv remakes when?

these threads are gunna be interesting when the tv show continues and has to say something about how new vegas collapsed

>>715178837
The Followers are good-natured retards. They teach everyone, even the Khans, when the Khans only used that knowledge to create drugs that help the Fiends in their massacres. Because of the Followers stupidity, hundreds of people were raped to death by the likes of Cook-Cook.

>>715179002
The NCR is constantly helping, not as a whole organization, but the people in the system are constantly doing their best to help. You ONLY see generous help towards citizens in the game from the NCR side, because they're the only one doing anything. The NCR organizes clandestine food help near Vegas, meanwhile House starves children to death for a slight profit.

>>715179012
House will watch you be raped and beheaded by those fiends because saving you isn't economically advantageous. Legion will just crucify you along with everyone else. Independent is just a failsafe option to allow you to kill NPCs.

Fact is, if you want your ideology to rests entirely on one man, he'd better be an absolute hero with clearly good objectives, House is a psychopath only interested in what benefits him personally, nothing else matters to him, he wouldn't accept a deficit of 2 caps to save a thousand kids. You do not want a psychopathic narcissist who has never cared about anyone but himself in charge, with 0 counter-powers.

House only saved because it was "his". That's all, he tells you directly he wouldn't have bothered to save the rest of the world even if he could have.

>>715179469
No they wont, it will just be bait posters spamming endlessly
>Haha they said New Vegas was destroyed because Enclave-trained Deathclaws beat all the Securitrons! Arent you mad?
Nobody cares. There are like 2 and a half Fallout games anyone even considers canon.

>>715179457
Remasters anon, but yes Bethesda will likely touch up at least F3 if they just did Oblivion. I wish the isometric games would be the actual target of a Remaster but Todd will do the Blizzard thing of only touching the games that came out in the 2000s.

>>715146216
you dont need to be a super genius to create a decent logistical system, you just have to be learned, which edward is thx to his short followers stint.

>>715178447
I don't remember if he says the 2.0 software would've made the laser system better at taking down the nukes but I don't think it would've helped his life support survive the hit.

>>715179376
>Source: Trust me bro.
Indeed, it's all house fags have because house is such a ridiculous cunt. "In 100 years we get to space in big rocket, trust" meanwhile the psycho won't lift a finger so that his securitrons stop the rampant crime right outside the walls, nor organize anything so that people and kids (that he banished himself for not being sources of revenue) don't starve to death. This guy prefers cannibal raiders over children because the cannibals are more beneficial to his profits, in a world where he's already the richest individual by far and doesn't even need the money for anything. House is just mentally ill, as are all his fanboys.

>>715179487
this tl;dr premise falls apart when you remember that joanna (gomorrah hooker) and carlito can have their quest done prior to meeting house
if you save them house will pay you out of his own pocket for no reason beyond
>that was a good thing you did for two people of new vegas, thank you moralfag courier

>>715179213
>Arid desert shithole
You do realize that with the growth agent from Big MT you can turn the Vegas desert into a lush paradise?

>Bbut muh spore people
That only happened because the idiots at the vault gave the growth agent to a known parasitic fungus with the express intent on using it as a pesticide against larger pest animals without even considering that it might infect people too, and acted all surprised when it did just that. Just use it on regular plants and you're fine.

>>715179750
>t.

>>715179487
>House only saved because it was "his". That's all, he tells you directly he wouldn't have bothered to save the rest of the world even if he could have.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Me having a gun doesn't mean I am obligated to save the lives of everyone in my neighborhood from a crazed gunman.

>>715179750
It'd still be too hot for a white man to comfortably enjoy all year round.

Do people really think Yes Man is nothing but a failsafe option? I get it's just an easy dig to undermine it in favor of your personal daddy figure but they could have just as easily made Yes Man killable and nothing would be different apart from locking the main quest. It's a clever idea that doesn't impact the story at all and I want to think you're all not so dumb as to not be able to recognize it.

>>715179652
i don't want remaster slop where it's the same old game with new paint
i want the whole thing remade from the ground up

that or make a new good game

>>715179720
>Muh starving kids
How is house starving them? Is he their daddy? Feeding themselves is their own responsibility. If the little faggots can't even catch a rat without the courier's help then they should starve. Feeding them just produces more hungry mouths that can't feed themselves, like has happened in Africa.

>>715179730
Don't remember the details of the quest, but the only reason House is paying you is because maintaining those 2 alive was better for business than having them die or disappear. House doesn't possess the slightest shred of compassion, this is ubiquitously seen and quoted in the game. House doesn't wish for the good of anyone, not a race, not a tribe, nothing that isn't himself or "his possession".

>>715179831
If you're to be put as the eternal dictator of the land, you doing NOTHING to improve anyone's life means you're unsuited. You can't be a "don't tread on me" lolbertarian retard AND a leader. House fags want him as a ruler, having this psychopath in charge is an obviously and objectively retarded choice, he'll never do anything that isn't directly profitable to himself.

>>715179002
It’s almost like NCR occupation is a good thing…..
Who’s gonna tell him twigchads?

>>715180004
It's Bethesda anon, they're going to do it in the laziest way possible.

>>715179872
You can always go chill out on Mt. Charleston

>>715180020
He kicked them out. That's what everyone tells you you shilling retard. You can't put people in a concentration camp, lock away the key, then say "skill issue" when they die and pretend you did nothing wrong. House prefers drugged cannibal raiders to innocent citizens including kids, anyone who wants him as a leader is deranged.

>>715179962
Yes man is killable he just comes back in a new body. He's the perfect sycophant, you can even take your frustrations out on him when your plans don't work out as you'd like.

>>715178228
The best ending for the Followers is a Legion victory. They get escorted out of the shithole called New Vegas.

>>715180143
How is kicking them out putting them in a concentration camp? They can literally go anywhere, no one is forcing them to stay in Freeside. They can just go outside and eat agave fruit. Literal skill issue.

>>715180221
Obviously I meant "permanently killable"
In my first playthrough I put off installing him so I could use him as a test dummy for new weapons,

>>715180359
poor people are entitled to everything you own and if you disagree, you are basically a psychopath

>>715180112
This. With NCR presence comes technology, infrastructure, security, job opportunities... meanwhile House gives nothing, nada, and all his deranged cock-sucking stans never argue for a single thing he'd supposedly do. They're retarded cultists chanting "he good, he good, 100 years rocket trust, he good" deliberately ignoring that House will never do anything for anyone, nor has ever cared about anyone. Why can't he send a single securitron 10 steps forward from the gate so that people don't have to hire bodyguards to not get mugged on the way to Vegas? Because he doesn't care simple as. House sees problems he could easily fix, and he sees nothing wrong with never doing so, and somehow you get downies defending that when they themselves get nothing out of his psychopathy.

>>715180359
Let's see you kicked into the Sahara desert and thrive nigger.House stans must all be hanged.

>>715180453
Yeah, essentially. Why don't the followers feed the widdle orphans? They're literally holocausting them by not doing so! AND YET
They have fresh food to put in their safehouse fridge every week, including RARE pinyon nuts!

>>715179720
>House is just mentally ill
He is just as nutty as anyone in Big MT.
Clear signs of dementia since House and Big MT only found ways to delay the aging process but not indefinitely.
Add to that how House lived in isolation for decades or only woke up who knows when and was on his own for a very long time and of all people he decided to entrust Benny who was clearly a scumbag but I guess he did get things done.

I merely disconnected from the security systems but kept him alive.
He could have negotiated the terms in which New Vegas could join the NCR in exchange of a "seat" in congress, especially backed up by his new army. New Vegas joins NCR and hosts elections but House is still New Vegas representative, which is a trade up for him, if he is really the visionary that he is then he could persuade the NCR to improve and even lead a new age for humanity ending the post-apocalyptic era for good.

That is to say House is not completely out of it but his plans lie beyond his capabilities and overestimates himself.

>>715179469
Shady Sands is nuked in the TV show. But, everyone here ignores that because the Fallout TV show sucks ass and it’s not canon in the eyes of /v/.
Yes, it’s no different from us putting our hands over our ears and closing our eyes
>>715179615
This lol
>>715180359
Maybe because almost every place in the Mojave is a shithole plagued by hostile tribals & raiders before the NCR came. It’s no different than forcibly moving someone to Detroit

Blast the Niggerhood of Fags to high hell? Don't mind if I diddly do!

>>715180636
>Let's see you kicked into the Sahara desert and thrive nigger.House stans must all be hanged.
Again, the bountiful fruits of the desert are waiting to be plucked. No excuses. If they die, they die.

>>715180453
You're not fit to be a ruler if you don't care at all about a single one of your subjects, deal with it loltard. You want to be an edgy little bitch, go die of dehydration in the desert, but don't pretend anyone would want your jewish ass in charge.

>>715180714
Indeed. House is just such a piece of shit and backstabbing filth that every single faction forces you to kill him, and they're right, he does plan to backstab everyone at the dam. House at best would be an insane tech-addict you control on the side, but he absolutely wants to rule because having someone in charge of him in any way gives him a schizo meltdown.

>>715180885
Bait used to be believable.

>>715180851
>Maybe because almost every place in the Mojave is a shithole plagued by hostile tribals & raiders before the NCR came. It’s no different than forcibly moving someone to Detroit
Yeah, that's the world we all have to live in. House set up something good in that world, why is he obligated to extend its benefits to all?

>>715180359
>my jewish landlord evicted my family with armed robots
>I was pretty bummed about it
>but I think foreign soldiers and cattle barons are happier to gain a new vacation spot than I am sad for losing my home
>so whatever

>NCRtrannies SEETHING

>>715180972
How is it bait? It's natural selection. It's how the world works. Who cried for the courier when he got shot and buried alive? If Mr House had no reason to dig you out, would anyone have known or cared? The wasteland is a harsh place. If you can't hack it, you die. Mr. House has no obligation to be held back by dead weight gutter trash and every right to kick them out.

>>715181038
House only protected where he ate and shat, he didn't build anything, he protected Vegas to protect his own ass and nothing more. He kicked the citizens out of Vegas, he personally forced people out of their homes after almost 2 centuries of coma, all to replace them with druggie cannibal raiders to run casinos filled with drugs and hookers where all there is to do is to practice degeneracy until you're ruined, escorted out the gate and mugged or stabbed 10 meters further. House is indefensible as any kind of model or ruler, and you fags fucking know it, it's why you never bring the slightest argument of any kind to the table. House ending is HOUSE ending, everyone else can fuck off and die it's just Yes-Man ending but you're being the cuckhold to his power fantasy.

>>715180885
>Again, the bountiful fruits of the desert are waiting to be plucked
Being an ironic retard doesn’t make you funny btw. Ignore this faggot
>>715180869
Sorry Mr. House…
But, West Tek>General Atomics

>>715181064
It's indeed extremely funny how House stans argue like israelis.

>>715181064
The only reason they had a chance to live at all instead of their ancestors being vaporized in atomic fire is because of Mr. House. He doesn't owe them shit, and the fact that they were squatting on his property while he was in a coma doesn't make it their home, there's no court to cry "squatter's rights" to and the only law is passed down by the Securitrons.

>>715181368
You can literally go out and pick delicious, healthy food in the desert. It's not a joke, it's fact. I do it every playthrough.

>>715180042
>Don't remember the details of the quest, but the only reason House is paying you is because maintaining those 2 alive was better for business than having them die or disappear.
Uhhh... how? Gomorrah lost its most popular moneymaker and Gomorrah was killing hookers and traitors long before that with no apparent impact on profit.

>Might makes right kiddo, fuck off we found this place first!
>nooo you can't use your security bots to protect your interests! Someone think of the kids! NCR help us aahhhh

You guys are forgetting that kids are unkillable. They won't starve because they can't die. If anything the kids are pussies for not just beating up all the thugs and robots and ruling vegas while they still have their youthful invincibility. Sure it would hurt but they won't die

>>715181278
What’s your favorite faction btw? Only the most based and radpilled chads can shit on retarded Housefags this good

>>715181779
Cook-Cook returning to Vault 3 after a hard day of burning people alive to sexually torture his private stash of immortal lolis

>>715181226
So it's also natural selection being used as a golf ball before I install Yes Man then.

>>715175385
Electricity and water are nice, but you can't maintain this robot army without a steady supply of metal, and as stated before, he's completely surrounded by hostile forces.

Slaughter the entire White Glove Society? You got it boss.

>All these mutants forgetting that their robots, power armor, and guns are federal property

>>715181904
Correct, that's why Independent is the best ending

>>715148959
>cheevo hunting

>>715182061
Uhh, fed-ur-al?
*blows up oil rig*