Thread 715163069

>"There's like—I would hesitate to count—but a large number compared to other projects I've been on who have taken mental exhaustion leave here. Some as short as two weeks to a month, some as long as eight months and nine," one staffer told me after saying they had taken some time themselves.

Maybe developing a video game takes 10 years because half your staff is gone for 8 months a year?

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/07/behind-the-next-battlefield-game-culture-clash-crunch-and-colossal-stakes/

This isn’t natural. But, it is natural for EA because those guys are slave drivers

>>715163572
EA's problem isn't that they crunch people to death at all. They're actually fairly OK on "overwork" related things.

The problem is that there is some amount of overtime, and the corporate environment ices people out. You have to be Media Trained to work there, and you have to have a ton of meetings, and most employees wear suits, even developers, so it creates a self-esteem-unfriendly atmosphere compared to how game dev used to be. Everything is extremely hierarchal too, so it just creates a completely demotivating and coldly corporate atmosphere, so when something real is expected of workers there, they feel an undue amount of pressure and emotional stress, and that's when they decide the only way out is to take a stress-leave.

It's just a culture problem. EA is not an inspiring company to work for.

>>715163069 (OP)
Not enough black transgender kweenz, obv.

>>715163069 (OP)
AAA teams need to be reduced back down to AA teams with shorter smaller games, and significantly less budget, with no corporate managing. AAA doesn't work nor has it ever worked.

>>715163069 (OP)
Honestly, this is what happens when your studio culture turns into a soulless bureaucracy. You hire 400 people, but 300 of them are producing meetings, not games. Then the 100 devs actually doing work get saddled with the pressure of delivering a billion-dollar franchise while navigating HR, DEI seminars, corporate memos about your email tone, and a thousand Jira tickets a day. Of course they’re burning out.

It’s not even the crunch anymore-it’s the death by a thousand corporate policy cuts.

Society is overworked.
Our caveman brains are used to hunting maybe 2-3 hours a day, 2-3 times per week (depending on how big the tribe is and how good the game is in the area). We're not suppose to be worked to the bone 99% of our lives.

>>715167395

This. Even medieval peasants spent a few months working their fields and the rest of the year building barns, light game hunting, praying and helping around the village. It's only in around the 19th century and beyond where humanity somehow managed to enslave itself again.

>>715167395
It pretty much explains every personal problem the modern west faces.
>anxiety, stress, lack of self-esteem and other negative emotions
>pretty much every non-trauma mental illness you're not born with
>probably a good chunk of physical ailments too
I blame America.

>>715167395
But at least you get to make mr goldberg another billion. So it was all worth it.

>>715167663
>Even medieval peasants
that would be the people who had an average life expectancy of 20 years

>>715163069 (OP)
>taking 8+ months off.
No they aren't. Devs still need a paycheck to get by. They just ain't making that game for 8 months while they work on something else for a paycheck.

>>715168218
when you call in sick you still get paid even 8 months later. (in 1st world countries)

>>715167395
I wouldn't say overworked as much as overstressed. When you're a sheepherder and you spend most of the day on your ass looking at nature as your flock of a dozen sheep graze around you doing it for 8 hours a day isn't a problem. It's when you have 3 meetings, 1 with HR for not calling Danny for Daniella now, 8 projects and tickets flowing in while your boss is breathing down your neck about documentation you haven't had time to start, your mortgage and your autistic child your wife had at 40. That's when you start to fade as a person.

>gamers see devs add a bunch of gay tranny skins to the last Battlefield game, and complain
>EA manager dude tells them to not buy the game then if it offends their chud brains so much
>they don't buy the game
>EA reacts with reeeeeees and fards and shids itself in rage at the chuds and dub it an act of economic terrorism to not buy Battlefield
EA are arrogant shitheads and their devs are trannies. it's good to see cancers like Ubisoft and EA collapsing.

>>715167395

some of us autists have the genes to want to sharpen tools all day long

>>715163069 (OP)
>retard lefties are burnt out of making shit ai props, "having to work" 40 hours a week
LMAO

>>715168673
And in a caveman society the hunters would probably appreciate their spears sharp, but we don't live in that world anymore. Our brains do, but we don't.

>>715168773
Ubisoft is retarded enough to get a movement started against them.

>>715168763
40 hours is way too much.
30 hours a week is alright

>>715167663
>humanity somehow managed to enslave itself again
bitch we were enslaved the second we figured out agriculture
no more roaming, no more variation, just the same field of grain every day until you die

>>715168912
>Get comfortable with not owning games.
I am entirely comfortable with not owning any Ubisoft games.

>Love games so much you want to work by making them
>Start working on Battlefield
>Everyone single person working on the game, except for the bosses, know that what they are making is trash and will flop
No wonder they hate their job.

American tech workers have to be the biggest pussies on the fucking planet man.

>>715168997
Based. Only truly mindbroken slaves would think working 8 hours a day 5 days a week is an acceptable way to live.

>>715163069 (OP)
who would've guessed hiring women who are known for being HR ticking time bomb would make people who just want to do their job to lose all motivations especially after pushing DEI onto everything over making games that are fun to play. it's not like we weren't warning them for the past 15 years. i say, they made their bed.

>>715168773
>If you don't like it, don't buy it
This would be a genuinely based statement if not for the fact that they were obviously 100% insincere about it because they're a publicly traded company and everything they do is primarily profit motivated. This IS the mindset all artistic creators should have though, make things how you and your audience want and everyone else can fuck off.

>>715163069 (OP)
>Women Moment

>>715163069 (OP)
>boo hoo my job that lets me take 8 months of paid vacation is so hard
Fuck Swedes. We should nuke them.

>>715169641
Dice is Swedish

Taking 2 weeks off shouldn't be that uncommon. Game devs actually accrue a lot of pto days that caps out so its use it or lose it. Some managers will call this out and suggest the worker take vacations. I had 6 months built up without realizing it.

>>715170023
Dice hasn't worked on battlefield for 4 years.

Why did they ruin a good IP?

>>715163069 (OP)
>start having a normal workload
>oh I can't do this time to take 2/3rds of the year off

I still wonder why EA has so many problems making Battlefield games now. Not that things were stable with Battlefield 4's launch, but it seems like after BFV they lost a ton of important people and never found their footing.

>>715170921
They have no good IPs.

>>715167395
Corpo/v/ is not ready for this conversation Anon.

>>715168145
due to child mortality

>>715163069 (OP)
I’m an accountant and don’t need breaks like this. Can these people not pace themselves? If you’re exhausted just slow your work pace.

>>715172418
Because your job is filler that exists solely for bureaucracy and you better pray every single day that AI is as big of a meme as you hope.

>>715172418
most of the nu-generation workforce are complete pussies who need a half year break the moment they encounter stress in the job

>>715164004
I remember reading a blog by the wife of an EA employee in the 2000s detailing what a shitty company it is to work for. How has nothing changed in all that time?

>>715172648
Why would they change anything? As long as sportsfags keep buying gachapacks for players the line continues to go up.

>>715165523
I agree entirely with your first proposition. It would be great it they scaled down, but to say that AAA games don't work is ludicrous.

>>715167395
>>715167663
We unironically have to go back. What value does modern society really have if the price of maintaining it is for everyone to be sick and miserable all the time? Isn't the whole point of having a society that we can get together to enjoy lives that are worth living?

>>715163069 (OP)
>"There's like but a large"
Did a downs syndrome kid write this?

>>715163069 (OP)
Don't they just work 8-4?

>>715167395
>>715167663
>>715167890
You all get it. The 8-4 or even the 8-8 has killed the white man.

Seriously what the fuck is going on at EA?

>>715168145
Wrong

>>715167663
It was the industrial revoloution. It made it so that you were competing with machines, and so had to work more to compete and everything was about working as much as possible to produce as much as possible.

People use to have seasonal jobs, if you look back on records of any place in history. Because you cant till fields every day, you would go and do another trade for a bit, then spend MONTHS doing nothing, only to go straight back into work and do it all again, and people were able to live like this for much longer than what we are experiencing today. However, with the way people treat food and consider everything replacable I dont think this can even work with humans any more. Use to be you got a metal bucket and it was in the family for several generations, where something that simply would have the effort put into fixing and maintaining it, now you just throw it out if its taking up space. Big Ted was right, humans were not made for this.

>>715174962
EA is just going full retard and diverting all their man power to BF6 in a desperate attempt to try and compete with COD. Once it flops you can guarantee they're going to try and do the same with NFS to beat shartza (it won't). I really wish this shit ass company would just go under already.

>>715163069 (OP)
Game devs should have zero worker rights. Every game dev should be working 16 hour days, 7 days a week without question to produce my vidya.

>>715163069 (OP)
At this point it seems like 99% of the devs in these westoid AAA companies are doing pic related
Somehow those companies took this long to start firing them, and its still not enough

>>715176817
If you get the job done, whats the issue?

>>715176817
>quiet quitting
No you rat kike, that is just doing your fucking job. If there is no incentive for more time off or higher pay then you literally just do what the company asks of your role and nothing extra. That's legitimate and fair.

>>715176660
This, but not because of favoring the companies. They need zero rights because 100% of game devs should be self employed men doing it out of pure passion and NOT as a job.

>>715163069 (OP)
they're not taking 8 months off
they're contract workers who only get called back to work again after 8 months

>>715177247
I’m not sure how the people doing the absolute bare minimum to technically satisfy the terms of their contract aren’t the kikes here.

>>715168145
Nothing to do with work and everything to do with disease, child mortality and frequent wars.

>>715167395
>Our caveman brains are used to hunting maybe 2-3 hours a day, 2-3 times per week
Hunter-gatherers spent most of their energy gathering food

>>715163069 (OP)
Is this real? In the US you can take 8 months of leave (that isn't pregnancy or, say, a car accident) and there are no repercussions? No wonder nothing gets done

>>715177586
>job hires you for 20 dollars an hour to do a task
>do task EXACTLY as required
OY VEY GOYIM IS QUIET QUITTING SHUT IT DOWN ITS ANUDAH SHOAH

>>715177586
Are they gonna pay you more for doing more than the minimum?
No?
Then fuck it.

>>715177586
If the minimum required isn’t enough then it isn’t the minimum by definition.

>>715176817
>>715177247
There's a funny little psy-op in the choice of term as "quitting" by implying that you will eventually get fired if you only do your job.

Actual "quiet quitting" would be to not do the job and wait to be fired for it.

They should scrap whatever they have for bf6 and just make it with a different approach. It's going to flop.

>>715177890
pretending to work while extending the dev time infinitely until the company cancels the game sounds like not doing your work for me

>>715177247
This is kinda why I like having a union job as a meat cutter. Company can't push us to do more than is required. The downside is that there's often old timers who do even less than required or cut corners and the union protects them more often than not.

>>715164004
Lmao wearing a suit to game dev

>>715163069 (OP)

Is it really that hard to sit in a cubicle/office and work as a code monkey or is it just lazy pajeets complaining as they are more or less the dominant game developers these days?!?FACT!!!

>>715177991
I agree.
That's why it was good for Krafton to shove off those lazy OG devs for not working, they didn't deserve the extra cash.

>>715168218
Usually medical leave in the USA is paid. It maybe something like 2/3 of your full pay.

Imagine you work for a construction company, but every time you are close to finishing a home, your boss comes in and pees all over every room of the house, bashes out a few load-supporting beams, and then says "NOW this home is ready for sale!" Then your boss takes a fat paycheck 10x what you make.

That's what it's like having a stable job making games for a big company.
Imagine you went to college for 'game development', which thousands of people have done, and these are the only jobs you can get.
Big companies love saving money by hiring junior devs with little experience.

It's incredibly demoralizing and shitty having to show up to your job every day, knowing you are making shitty games and nothing you do can fix it. The higher ups ruin every single project you work on.

Perfectly justified to take a giant leave for emotional damage. It straight up makes normal people depressed. I didn't even mention "crunch" and you can already see how shit it is to work these jobs.

Oh and then faggots yell at you on Twitter. Why the fuck would any dev have a social media account? Gamers are retarded manchilden that make death threats over video games. Get the fuck off social media wtf???

>>715177991
Yes, that would be real "quiet quitting," not the fake kind where you actually do your job but get shamed for it and threatened with being fired because you didn't also do someone else's job for free.

>>715178370
I'm sure EA is the reason Taash was made.

>>715177793
>>715177682
>>715177849
You will be wage slaves forever, enjoy life at the bottom.

>>715178449
I make 103k a year in IT infrastructure for the government. I'm good. Currently enjoying my 2 month paid vacation with my wife in Norway. But you keep working extra for nothing. I'm sure long-nose-tribe won't just replace you with a pajeet for breaking your back for nothing. Retard.

>>715163069 (OP)
>"burned out from 8 hour days sitting in an office"

this is why western techfags are getting replaced by jeets and ai

>>715178558
post wife

Isn't game dev their job? If you're not doing your job why do you still have it?

>>715163069 (OP)
They spent the last 6 years dismantling studios and replacing veteran devs with woke activists, sheboons, nu-"males", rostoids and NOW things are "stressful" ?

>>715175319
good post

>>715172648
It has, that blog sparked a huge amount of change in the industry

>>715177627
Untrue. The average hunter would hunt a few hours a few days a week. The vast, VAST, majority of a persons life would be spent socializing with the tribe, partaking in rituals and moving from location to location.

>>715164004
This makes it pretty easy to understand how soulless Battlefield has become

>>715177442
Informative, but outdated. A whole lot of shit has happened since 2012.

>>715177627
Considering how "traps" were a thing they knew about back then, i highly doubt it. They probably just set their snares and then went fishing for a while and then checked on the snares, periodicaly, like.

>>715168773
I need to get this framed for my office

>>715163069 (OP)
It must be nice to be able to take 9 months off and still have a job. A lot of people can't take 9 hours off without their loyalty being questioned.