Thread 715200517

Why aren't VNs popular with new generations of gamers?

girls that look like that deserve infinite money

I dont know
but i'm glad theyre not popular

They were a fad. They're just shittier books.

not everybody is a cum brained weeb

>>715200517 (OP)
The new generations are illiterates

>>715200517 (OP)
Because gacha.

>>715200517 (OP)
Too many words
Make the dialog pop up one word at a time without the ability to rewind and they'll be all over it

>>715200517 (OP)
Persona 5 is very, very popular.

>>715200517 (OP)
the us literacy rate has been dropping steadily for the last 3 decades, its now somewhere in the mid 70s % range

People prefer actual gameplay over books with fancy animations and sounds

>>715200517 (OP)
I'm over 30 and have never touched one. Which generations grew up with VNs, Gen X?

>>715201437
The 4chan generation

>>715200517 (OP)
Is that the fucking ohio goonette?

more gen z have played vns than any other gen, in america at least.

>>715200517 (OP)
were VNs literally ever truly popular?
I don't know any normal people who grew up with VNs
If anything, pseudo-VNs like Persona are more popular than ever
nerdy emo zoomer girls in their early 20s fucking love Persona because of 5
We've slowly wrapped back around to enjoying text dense content (Baldur's Gate 3, Disco Elysium) and if anything it was millennials who got sick of this stuff
Pure visual novels to my knowledge have literally always been more obscure and I hear them talked about now more than ever before in my life

>>715201618
the younger generation who uses 4chan loves VNs along with 2hu and whatever else is talked about on /jp/
do you actually talk to people or just make shit up?

>>715200517 (OP)
Porn is free

>>715200941
Hey wait. How did you know that?

I'm making a visual novel, but in comic-style!

>80% of the thread is women, faggots and troons coping by posting the exact opposite of reality in attempts to shame
Yeah it's probably time to for straight men to collectively pick up guns and start shooting.

>>715202692
They have always been niche, but VNs were definitely more popular 15 years ago. Many of them got anime and manga adaptations.

>>715202765
Those are secondaries anon

>>715203127
In japan maybe I have no idea but Steins Gate and Clannad do not exist as anime because of western interest

>>715203127
>so niche that for almost a decade anime adaptions were based off of them alongside LNs
I guess it depends on what you consider "niche"

>>715203181
>liking VNs is "secondary"
Who are you trying to fool you subversive faggot/woman/troon

I will fucking kill you in hellfire the moment you step out of your basement. The moment this subculture culminates into mainstream culture(and it will) then I will be pushing you up against a wall.

All culture is downstream of subculture and you are trying to act as some speedbump.

>>715200517 (OP)
Kirara is cute. When is Erika going to be released too?

>>715200517 (OP)
kids hate reading

>>715203127
I think I get where you're coming from
in western weeb culture they were "more popular" but I think its different from how it seems
I think anime in the west is genuinely mainstream now in a way it never was before, and so it feels like certain things are less popular than before but you have to measure the amount of new people as well, and with anime in particular its MOSTLY new people now, who yea have no interest in these things. So is the number of people in VNs less now? I have no idea, but there's like 1000x more people into japanese media in general now so its kinda hard to see one way or the other. That being said, I assume VNs did get genuinely less popular in Japan because we just don't see big great ones anymore really. At the same time, video games with VN influence are more popular than ever (nu-Fire Emblem, Persona, Stardew/Rune Factory). I don't know anon, this is kinda a big post of nothing but I just think its muddy and I also find that its seemingly more common among zoomers to get into really niche weird shit and a lot of those guys like VNs but these are outcasts still at the end of the day.

>>715200517 (OP)
The newer generations don't know how to read.

>>715200517 (OP)
Didn't think some random shitty image I photoshopped for /bag/ way back then would still be floating around. Weird feel.

heh

>>715200517 (OP)
>insanely short attention span
>afraid of sex that can't be brushed off as ironic and evil characters that actually do evil things
>deathly afraid of little girls unless they see their peers making jokes about it
DDLC only got popular because of youtubers and streamers, most of the people that played or watched someone play that game never dug deeper into the genre and most of the ones that did had the above happen to them

>>715200517 (OP)
Pic unrelated btw, gookshit and specially gachashit aren't vns

>>715200517 (OP)
I dont read nigga

>>715200517 (OP)
People want to be the protag.
VNs still force you to play as Yamamoto Nukitashi.
Thats why gachas have taken over

>>715200517 (OP)
>Why aren't foreign novels popular with illiterate people?
Hmmm

>>715208182
They have as much reading as vns though.

>>715214085
Anyone can make enough chatgpt slop to rival all those hundred of hours of reading in just 15 minutes though

>>715200517 (OP)
hey kids, you like anime? games? books? want all the worst aspects of each in one (not) convenient package? try vns!

>>715214604
What vns have you played and why are they bad?

>>715214604
I find its a nice in between of a book and an anime
it has some animation, music, sound fx, sometimes even voice acting, but its far more like a book where you go at your own pace
I like them, as I like anime and manga and books, its just a different thing and feels like a different experience
In no way do VNs try to be games though but they are interactive media

>>715200517 (OP)
Zooms

A static image with text isn't a video game

>>715219504
How young are you?
Some videogames don't even have the static image, they're pure text.

I don't know why vns get so much hate specifically.

>>715222543
americfats can't read

>>715213675
>People want to be the protag.
Hylics aren't people.

>>715219504
Cool
What does that tell me about the quality of the genre?
Are you implying only video games are good? Do you only care about video games?
Or are you just stating random facts?
VNs have to fit somewhere and since they are interactive media, they do attach themselves to video games more than any other medium because they function like games on a technical level and are made in the exact same way games are made and run on the exact same hardware that games run and are in stores that mostly only sell video games so naturally VNs are discussed on video game message boards
I hope that's not your only input because that would be painfully boring

>>715222543
its organization 'tism
people are just mad they're categorized as video games
they never actually discuss if VNs are enjoyable or not
they simply do not want them to be called video games (for reasons I cannot possibly understand)
VN haters typically have no criticism outside of this statement unless they dislike japanese media in general, either way their opinions on these things tend to be kinda worthless
there's this very bizarre kinda bitterness towards something that isn't a video game and yet most of these people probably watch movies, listen to music, and if they weren't illiterate they'd probably read books
its truly just autism because they're assmad interactive media that isn't quite a video game is often mistaken for a video game

Dumb-dumbs believe Japan made the mystery genre and are the only ones allowed to make games in the genre.

English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (finale to the Abime series)
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>The Zodiac Trial
>Tyrion Cuthbert: Attorney of the Arcane

English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Bound Between Desks
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>Thief's Roulette
>Ubel
>Underground22
>Whispering Memories

>>715200517 (OP)
Gachaslop supplanted VNs, aside from eroge.

>>715200517 (OP)
Do zoomies even read?

>>715222543
Goons are useful idiots fighting japanese media, so there is no competition and you have to consume pozzed garbage western media

>>715200517 (OP)
got killed by gacha

>>715200517 (OP)
Remember that gyaru in Princess Connect that talked like a bimbo caused a huge outrage among SEA monkeys about "translation purity" that it accelerated the game's EoS faster.

>>715200517 (OP)
i aint got time for that

>>715203107
Mari wouldn't say that.

>>715222543
Because the average gamer has adhd and needs actionslop because they're too dumb to get enjoyment out of reading.

Remember to watch Brown Bag Imouto's show

>>715200517 (OP)
Kids can barely read regular books, you think they can read anything longer than a 10 second video?

>>715222543
They're closely associated with dating sim type games, which are only played by the most degenerate of weebs.

>>715228135
>enjoyment out of reading
are you saying you get enjoyment from reading gacha?

>>715200517 (OP)
Anything can be popular if the company astroturf it enough

>>715228516
There's not going to be sex and I wouldn't be surprised if they skip her route entirely.

>>715229120
Gacha is a monetization system not a genre.

nah,priconne global EoS'd early because CrunchyRoll are greedy fucks and they want to shill korean webtoons because they invested in korean webtoons. Dreadful slop, even the worst anime is better than rubbish like god of highschool or tower of god or solo godding... the only pro point Koreans get is the fact they're not mortally terrified to show sex unlike Japan.

>>715200517 (OP)
young niggas can't read

>>715200517 (OP)
attention spans are shot

>>715200517 (OP)
VNs aren't games, they're not books either, they're really just plain trash.

>>715200517 (OP)
Men don't read

>can't find a single VN with a classic ojou
its so over bros