Thread 715201530

>looks like shit
>makes your eyes bleed
Why do people shill these heaping piles of shit so much?

I'm so glad I don't have to move those things around anymore. Holy fuck.

Trannies love outdated "quirky" technology.

>>715201530 (OP)
Response time. That's it. It's better in that field and it's why some people still prefer them today.

>>715201530 (OP)
Because LCD technology has liquid in the name for a reason.
The motion is blurry as fuck, and the picture look almost black & white in comparison.
OLEDs basically solve all the LCD issues, but they're expensive.

>>715201530 (OP)
Also bigger tvs have a lot more flicker than smaller tubes for some reason, and 2000ish CRTs just look better than older ones.

>>715201530 (OP)
You forgot the ears bleeding part.

I like hearing it degauss. I only bother using a little 14" with component nowadays anyways.

>>715202645
That is solved by being fucking old and hearing the whine all the time instead of just when the TV is turned on.

>>715201530 (OP)
S0VL

>>715201681
what the fuck were you doing moving around crt tvs all day? are you a fucking teletubby or something?

>>715202645
was about to say this. actual fucking torture

Nah it looks good and shitty LCDs strain your eyes faster

>>715202173
>Oh my god. I'm so nostalgic for this thing I wasn't alive for and never experienced.

>>715201530 (OP)
>sub-1ms response time
>no ghosting
>non-existent input lag
that's why

>>715201530 (OP)
Not a problem with good desktop tubes in good condition. Now imagine what 25 years of technological advance would do for them.

>>715202493
>OLEDs basically solve all the LCD issues
No they don't, the latency and motion clarity still pales in comparison to the electron gun.

>>715203141
Yes, it's not 1:1, but at least on my phone, it's good enough to stop caring.
It's not like when i switch back from my CRT to my screens that suddenly shit looks literally black & white for a while and the motion blur is painfully obvious.

>>715202493
>muh LCD
>muh OLED

>>715203391
Ironic coming from a CRTranny

>>715203391
I have all three, and i can see with my eyes.
The NES version of gradius II is bizarre on an oled phone, because it looks basically like the phone is turned off except for the game elements.

Are there still dumbasses that think rear projection tvs are crts?

>>715201530 (OP)
Lost technology in my lifetime is a trip.
Society, nay Humanity may be collapsing and people just make jokes

>>715203691
It's old and bulky, so i can see someone that don't know projection screens just thinking they're flat screen CRT tubes.

>>715203391
You're the one going out of your way to use inferior technology.
Do you also walk around with your little Sony Walkman and iPod Nano? I bet you think you look so cool and retro.

>>715201530 (OP)
Dunno, just love them.

>>715201530 (OP)
>looks like shit
brother, these things produced images for the gods.

>>715201530 (OP)
I picked up like a 32 inch for free at the dump for my ps2. doesn't look like dogshit anymore

It wasn't so bad, playing games on them the Anttenna was fiddly

>>715203818
I mean if you don't want to be glued to your phone 24/7, I'd rather be walking with a Walkman or iPod. Or in my case a chink iPod Nano clone I bought from Five Below

>>715201530 (OP)
I love my CRT's. The picture really is unmatched for media designed for it (anything 2006 or earlier -- aka "the good stuff").

>>715203896
It is pretty hard to display PS2 graphics in a way that don't fucking suck.

>>715203478
>>715203818
You are somehow so retarded that you misunderstood the post.

>>715201530 (OP)
old games look good on them, what other reason do you need nigger

>>715204021
This 10000x over. Watch a vhs on any modern screen and it looks like shit. Watch it on a crt and it suddenly looks great. Same with DVD.

Let's not talk about high bitrate 480p video being visually similar to 1080p either. Higher resolutions are purely lcd pixelfag cope.

>>715204093
Sorry I'm not trans enough to understand whatever inane bullshit you were spewing.

>>715203994
>>715204093
I'm sorry. I'm a miserable fucker. I'm only jaded because I got made fun of for the same thing. Carry on doing you, anon.

>>715203880
All I see is the red, green and blue part of each pixel

>>715201530 (OP)
-no motion blur
-no input lag
-they're not locked to 60hz
-low res games look superior on them compared to modern displays
>>715202493
>OLEDs basically solve all the LCD issues,
OLEDs have the same motion blur problem as well as
-VRR flicker
-ABL can't be disabled
-They're ridiculously expensive
-BFI causes massive reductions in brightness as well as image retention
-They only last about 12 months before they need replacing

OLD TECH GOOD
NEW TECH BAD

>>715201530 (OP)
Gives you tinnitus too

>>715203356
Typical idiotic phone poster with his head in the sand.

>>715202493
OLED still has motion blur, and worse, it gets burn in.

>>715201530 (OP)
>pick up some bottom of a barrel piece of shit TV
>uuhhh why it's le bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R6b7HkEkFk

crt was my main tv until 2013

Motion blur and input lag on LCD/LEDs are very dependent on the individual display. Some are abhorrent and some (few) are actually decent. As with everything, generalizations are stupid. It's the same with CRTs where there are a lot of bad ones.

>>715204728
CRT TVs also have burn in, it's a classic of em even.
You should only use em to play games or watch movies, not desktop shit.
Even LCD has a bit of burn in, it's bizarre but one of my screens actually has a bit on the top.

Stealth Deltarune thread?

>>715203356
oled displays suck
>still sample and hold
>shit brightness
>burn-in
>(((ABL)))
>(((pixel refresh)))
and don't get me started on shitty gimmicks like (((interpolation))) and (((frame generation)))

>>715205178
Nah, too late for that it seems.

>>715205226
Poorfags gonna poorfag.

>>715204531
All I hear is that you have not seen it in person anon. This technology was a divine gift and we squandered it.

>>715205534
it takes a gorillion more times to reach that stage
that game literally runs all fucking day. you try running pacman on an oled and it won't even take a year for the screen to become like that

>>715203818
I do and I am.

>>715205498
Is this the "we gonna pretend you don't have a X to criticize you for it" the thread?
At least in my case i literally have CRT TV, that i use every day to play retro shit, but yet "no you don't know the REALITY" of CRTs

>>715201530 (OP)
I miss collecting the static electricity gathered around the screen with my fingers and shocking people.

>>715205624
You're just mad because you live in your mother's basement and can't afford a proper OLED TV, so you bitch about the technology online to cope.

>>715205534
BASED Pac chad

>>715205226
I love my phones oled display that has gotten so dim on max brightness and has the youtube logo burned into it even as I type on 4chan I can see it staring back at me. God bless oled.

>>715205615
>blackberry
Way to out yourself as a leaf. No wonder you are using 20 year old tech

>>715201530 (OP)
I just got a free little CRT, going to try it this weekend. I probably haven't played a game on one in like 20 years, should be fun.

I don't understand CRTwank. I never want to go back.

>>715205498
OLEDs is a shit technology regardless of how much money you have.

>>715202772
My college dorms wouldn't let you stay for the holidays, so I had to move mine every summer, winter, and spring break.

>>715205601
Images don't do it justice, zoomers will never understand.

>>715205882
If we went back, you wouldn't exist, zoomy.

Even if you don't like CRT TVs for being low res/fuzzy/15khz noise, a high end CRT computer monitor still looks better than anything an OLED can offer.

>>715205882
Play any Snes game on a CRT and then on a modern Flat screen and then you'd understand

>>715202772
made me laugh

>>715205914
nta but absolutely false, it's the only modern display tech that can get anywhere close to CRT.

>>715204940
>You should only use em to play games or watch movies, not desktop shit.
If you use a screensaver, its fine. That said, I haven't seen a CRT in use in over 10 years.

>>715205981
Not true, even the high end trinitrons get destroyed by budget OLEDs. Poorfag cope

>>715201530 (OP)
I have like a 24" that's just way too big. I want a 17" or so but I can't find one. How big is yours?

I just have my old NES HOOKED UP to it.

>>715205882
I have high end oled tv and high end crt. Oled has a better picture overall but it falls apart in motion compared to crt. Watching animation or playing games is significantly more enjoyable on crt.

>>715201681
a 30-something incher fell on me when I was a kid and absolutely smashed my ankle. i lied on the ground underneath it screaming, hoping my dad would hear me from the garage. after several minutes he came running in and immediately threw it off of me.

>>715201530 (OP)
They don’t even sell these anymore where am I supposed to get one?

>>715205914
>>715205226
keep coping and seething, crtrannies

>>715201530 (OP)
>15khz CRT TV that does 240p
I sleep
>31khz CRT Monitor that does 1024x768 VGA
Real shit

>CRT thread
>Poorfags start crying about OLEDs
They're both good but shut the fuck up, holy fuck. It's fine that you're poor, just go get a cheap CRT on Facebook Marketplace and have a great time. I love my OLED displays but it's not that serious.

>sour grapes faggots can't get themselves a CRT
they're literally free at just about any recycling center

>>715205601
All I see is the mask and the black parts around every pixel. It's distracting

>>715205882
Its capabilities and compatibilities are genuinely different.
This is a positive for older consoles and their games. "720p" was considered HD, just 20 years ago, you know?

>>715206252
>that does 240p
You mean 480i
Interlacing really fucked with the image. Especially if you had to connect it over an RF cable

My wife's parents have a 36' sony trinitron that they still use. I want it so bad.

>>715206481
Buy them an HDTV

Millennial here, played on shitty 480i tube tv's all throughout my childhood
>2000's roll along
>got a tube TV with Component Inputs, bought a universal Xbox/Gamecube/PS2 component cable
Now this shit actually was a game changer. I was astonished how clear everything looked. It was magnificent. Old tv's with just a yellow Composite input are dogshit.

>>715206416
Depends on the console. I find that older 5th gen and below actually looked better because they output at 240p generally, meaning you're not getting that horrible flickering from 6th gen games and get nice scanlines instead.

>>715205934
Plus 4chan compresses the image which makes it even harder

>>715206481
>>715206569
Yeah, get them a TV for Christmas or something.

>>715205736
Actually, i was the first one to defend it on the thread.

>>715206585
Composite is fine for anything before the 6th gen

>>715203818
ipod nano was awesome, it fit right in the watch pocket on a pair of jeans

>>715206416
If you have a softmodded PS2 you can force games to run in different video modes with GS Mode Selector (old versions have some modes new versions lack)
You can force games normally in 480i to run at 240p and for the overwhelming majority of the games it just makes them look worse even if the raster is more still.

>Zoomers are so sheltered that they can't even understand the concept of an analog signal
Grim

I love tv

>>715206481
Time to sell your faggot ass and buy them a TCL 98"

>>715203818
iPods are cool, I would carry a Classic with me if they weren't so expensive.

>>715201530 (OP)
Zero added input lag, and still to this day the best motion clarity. To get similar motion clarity on a modern display you would need like 480hz oled with crt beam emulation

>>715206297
How do you go about it? Just show up and say hey guys I want to take a TV off your hands? I’ve never been to one before.

>>715206694
Composite is very blurry. I still remember the switch. I was in the middle of a Dragon Quest 8 playthrough at that time and was astonished how much clearer everything was going to Component.

>>715202772
>are you a fucking teletubby or something?
lmao

>>715201530 (OP)
I LOVE TV

>>715206116
You're lucky the impact didn't crack the screen. CRTs can implode from being dropped

>>715206738
Only noise when the source is digital.

Graphic fags defend LED
Graphic chads endorse CRT

>>715202772
>are you a fucking teletubby or something?
kek
I used to work at an electronics store, we had some crts still, it sucked.

>>715206585
Yeah this was a big deal for me, especially for things like text heavy RPGs. I'm halfway convinced I fucked up my eyesight straining to read shit from the NES-Playstation days on blurry screens.

>>715206848
give them a phone call and ask if they have any. they typically have to pay to have them disposed of due to the chemicals inside of the tube and sometimes they're more than happy to give them away for free

>>715201530 (OP)
I like the way it sucks

>>715206804
>I would carry a Classic with me if they weren't so expensive
I have 3. You're telling me I'm sitting on gold?

>>715201530 (OP)
The cockroach farm...

>>715207570
Depending on which ones and the condition then yes you are. Some are rare and collectors have already gobbled all the ones in goodwill already

>>715202772
he's the guy from the money for nothing music video, show some fucking respect

>>715206871
>>715206694
>>715206585
This picture of mine is composite: >>715202493

However It's PAL-M HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
Only thing my country ever did right [spolier]mixing the PAL color encoding with NTSC frequency

>>715207726
pre-Touch and video and all that other bullshit. Just music.
I never figured zoomers would want them like they want my retro video games

>>715201530 (OP)
Because they are the technology you should use to experience the games of that era. That said, I have been using Retroarch with newer HDR CRT filters, and finally I can play games without needing a CRT. It's ironic, circa 2007 I was so excited to emulate all my old games in 1080p all blown the fuck up just to see how they looked in HD, now I struggle to most closely emulate EXACTLY how they looked on my TV in 1996. I got deathly ill about a year ago and spent weeks while recuperating downloading literally every game I ever even halfway desired to play all the way up until the PS2 era. I have been spending that time since slowly chipping away at it. I could never spend a dime on gaming again and be happy.

Return to the past bros, once the present evens out it will become the future.

>>715208370
I don't remember lucas being in breath of fire

>>715208547
Right you are, I posted the wrong image. This should clear things up.

>>715208289
ipods, PSPs, CRTs, small digital cameras, and even flip phones are kinda popular again

>>715205615
That little Samsung player is great for about 3 years and then the touch pad dies, and it's just a small usb storage after that.

>T. Owned 3, loved them so much, gutted each time their touchpads died

>>715208980
A lot of it is probably just nostalgia but there's is also value in those old devices from not having cancerous ads and bloat like a smart device would. An iPod just works.

>>715208621
>buttery smooth lava flow
>the aura and clothes swaying in the wind
>the red glow coming from the monster's body parts
just creamed my pants

>>715206006
perfect blacks are meaningless if you are still bound by sample and hold garbage.

>>715201530 (OP)
well your mom kept you didn't she?

My parents have an old CRT POS in the closet of their trailer. Hasn't been used in 20 years and has been exposed to winter temperatures every year. If I had a way to hook my Steam Deck up to it I totally would as retro games look wrong on a OLED screen

>>715208980
>ipods
phone plays music. No, not that streaming shit, I literally have my entire music library on my phone.
>PSPs
I'll emulate it or play it on my Vita
>CRTs
too much trouble, I'd rather just emulate stuff. All of my old systems are just neatly packed in my closet
>small digital cameras
phone.... however I do have a schizo belief that every picture you take on an internet connected device gets sent to the government so I'd never take any pictures on a phone that could be used to blackmail me.
>even flip phones
PHONE!

>>715201530 (OP)
>be driving
>find a CRT on the side of the road
>take it home and plug it in expecting it to be dead
>it works
>expect it to be full of bugs
>its clean
It's RF but I'm surprised it was just left on the side of the road in such good condition.

>board complains about fake frames
>board complains about anti soul gas
>uses LCD which has it built in
Why tho

>>715210053
strobing brother. It can close the gap between LCD and CRT

>>715208980
Now you probably know how boomers felt when millennials wanted to return to vinyl and synth music 10 years ago.

>been looking for a decent 14" for a year
>all of them 200 km+ away
>the one I messaged ghosted me
At this point even a shit one will do. Holy fuck.

>>715210985
ebay

>>715201530 (OP)
Filtered. It makes old low res games look kino

>>715211091
I should’ve specified that I want a functional CRT.

>>715211316
ebay

With all the inches and driving around it's like you're all talking about hunting for a dicking or something.

>>715210985
Here you go, $300. Take it or leave it

>>715210985
The trick is to just keep checking local ads every day, multiple times a day, and message ASAP. Any good CRT listing always goes fast.

>>715211370
>"Yeah, a real 14 incher, had a real hard time making it fit but once I worked it in I felt like a winner"

>>715209795

People shit hard on RF but it's really not bad. It's basically composite with the colors being slightly more flat. Part of it's horrible reputation is back in the day, the little switch boxes were really leaky and introduced a ton of signal noise so there were way more artifacts that came with the image. I enjoy RF, people are retarded.

>>715210242
the monitor industry hates this man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHNUVL0W-k

>>715201681
>moving your 27" CRT and PS3 to your garage in order to Full Band play the endless setlists in Rock Bands
You had to have friends to know this feel admittedly

Only smeller pedo smashers and autistic MUH AUTHENTICITY retards still care about CRTs
Nobody has produced them in like 2 decades yet they are still dirt cheap (or even free) because they have zero demand outside those 2 faggot groups

>>715206871

Component is clearer and cleaner but at the same time, many games look unnatural on it. It has more of a raw pixel look for 2D games and you can see jaggies on 3D games much more. Composite/RF have blending and many games were made with them in mind but ya there are tradeoffs. Image will be a bit blurrier and dot crawl can be pretty bad on some TVs but they're in a minority in my experience. Depends on comb filter and the game/system.

>>715210985
To this day I still see them in alleyways next to garbage bins because there were so many produced and nobody wants them
are you actually trying anon

>>715211779
true, but ULMB2 has me excited even though it doesn't work at 60hz

>>715211963
>in like 2 decades
10 years*
Components for CRT TV stopped being produced (and affordable) around 2014-2015.

>>715201681
literal non-issue, the only valid criticism for CRTs is reflection in the glass

>>715212316
10 years in technology time is like 40 years so actually I'm underestimating

>>715210985

You must be in a bad area for them. Try FB marketplace and if all else fails, ebay. On ebay you can get a 13 inch shipped without damage if packed right, but prepare to pay more for it due to shipping and general markup.

>>715208980
I dug out my old PSP out from over a decade ago, found the battery had inflated like a balloon like everyone said it would. Still need to get a new one and a micro SD.

Also started listening and putting music/podcasts onto my uncle's old iPod about 2 years ago. It's better than being advertised to every 5 minutes and the limited choice stops you searching for ages for 'the right song'.

I think digital minimalism is better when it comes to portable devices. Everyone on the train or bus stares down at their phone constantly. Really, you only need it for calls/text, maps and maybe music. Social media and algorithm slop has been detrimental for people's attention spans

>>715202493
>OLEDs basically solve all the LCD issues,
No they don't, they still look bad in motion compared to a 1ms persistence CRT monitor. It's not even close, OLEDs are miles behind still.

>>715206585
for me it's SCART

>>715215583
20 years on, and we now have flat panel monitors that look as good as CRTs. Maybe in another 20 we'll get screens that have clear motion.

>2005: Shitty old CRT for 20 bucks on ebay
>2025: RETRO GAMING CRT for only 500$!!
There's a reason we abandoned these.

>>715216750
>There's a reason we abandoned these.
Yeah, we were scammed. Fortunately, I was able to get my CRT back from my parents a couple years later when I realized that all my SNES games looked like absolute shit on the new LCD I'd been conned into buying.

>>715216750
>RETRO GAMING CRT for only 500$!!
that's only if you search it like that because it's easy to scam these nerds
if you search something like "shitty fat back TV that my fat fucking wife forced me to throw out" then you can get it for $20 because majority of people realize how worthless these are

>>715216918
I felt this way going from N64 to NGC.

>>715201530 (OP)
>looks like shit
>makes your eyes bleed
bait

First time I ever had discomfort looking at a TV was 30" plasma screens.
Those cooked your eyes and burned in quick.

>>715206319
Sure anon
Have you tried not using a shader?

>>715212879
This is the way. I snagged a Sony KV-13FS100 off Facebook for $25 last year, barely used, came with original remote and manual. People just want them gone once they realize they weigh more than a cursed artifact and don’t have an HDMI port. eBay prices are inflated by weirdos and RetroRGB brainrot. The trick is to catch them before someone puts "RETRO GAMING" in all caps in the title.

>>715210242
>It can close the gap between LCD and CRT
Anon, CRT's strobe already
>>715217947
No screens cook your eyes, the problem comes from bad strobing, over brightness or not blinking your eyes regularly

>>715218216
When people say stuff like that they aren't being literal. They mean it causes strain or is otherwise physically unpleasant.
For example, no, the Virtual Boy doesn't cause eye damage. But yes, I've played one, and it is extremely unpleasant on the eyes.

>>715218216
Wave your hand inbetween your screen and your eyes with the lights turned off.

Grew up with CRTs from the mid 90s to like 2011 never want to fuck with one again. My current TV with a retrotink and svideo cables is fine.

>>715218353
>When people say stuff like that they aren't being literal
You'd be surprised how many people blame TV's for the reason they have to wear glasses when both their parents use glasses
>>715218459
what do you think that will achieve?

>>715201530 (OP)
When you play a retro game on a modern display you can feel the anachronism of old game but new tech and it makes you care less about the game than if you play on a CRT, with at least the proper controller too if not full original hardware
>t. hipster faggot but I'm right

>>715218564
I do not miss CRT monitors but CRT TVs back then were infinitely better than what's here now.

>>715218689
>you can feel the anachronism of old game but new tech
I think it's more just that seeing random pixels that barely make sense unless you play it on a CRT

>>715218669
You'll feel a tiny amount of the sensation when your hand isn't blocking the screen.
After a few hours, looking away from the plasma didn't stop it.

>>715201530 (OP)
I like the way it feels on my retinas

>>715218931
How close were you sitting to the plasma screen anon
It sounds more like you were literally cooking your eyes because of how hot they were

>>715219075
~12 feet roughly.
If friends were over about 4 feet.

>>715219397
Sorry anon, I never had that problem at all

>that little fuzz of static electricity on the screen

I miss that feeling. Used to shock myself as a kid cause it felt funny

>>715218210

I actually just sold one of those the other day. When I first got one, I thought I struck gold and got my ultimate TV but I actually ended up hating that model. Colors are fucked, by default, and it's hard to correct. w/e I made a small profit.

>>715201530 (OP)
>gives you tinnitus
Never again

>>715201530 (OP)
Because they don't do either of those things.

>>715201530 (OP)
Because they're retarded zoomers that didn't have to actually do work on one

>>715202493
>OLEDs
Have a use-by date. They're continually degrading.

>>715216469
We need OLEDs to reach 1000hz and to have a good CRT beam simulation setting built into the screens that replaces BFI and then we'll have good motion clarity. This can be achieved maybe if Blur Busters start consulting with monitor manufacturers about how to solve this issue. Since we can't make use of backlight strobing, the most effective method to go with is beam simulation from what I've seen thus far. For the time being there's Nvidia's Pulsar modules on LCD.

Only the real ones know that the glass screen taste like static.

>>715222143
>gives you tinnitus
yeah no
>>715222575
Unfortunately the truth
I think about 7 years they start losing their quality

>>715201530 (OP)
Playing FPS games felt so much better on those old TVs. I still remember being a great Modern Warfare 3 player on my old box TV, but everything went to hell when I got a flat screen.

>>715226002
My OLED phone is 2 years old and has noticeable issues with burn in and brightness.

>>715202173
zoomers really just can’t wrap their head around certain tech moving backward. we had better spatial audio in games in fucking 1994 than we do today ffs

>>715201681
Remember these beasts?

>>715211680
As long as the picture quality isn't total garbage or things look washed out, then I'm good honestly. I just need to find space in my room for it and grab a modulator and I'm set.

>>715226612
forgot pic

>>715201530 (OP)
it makes sense for retro gaming, that's kinda it

>>715226424
You might've just had it way too bright
I've had mine for 7 years and it's only now just started having green patches

>>715226670
It makes sense for anything standard definition
>>715226612
>>715226667
These were just terrible and hold nothing of value apart from size
They're just terrible all around

>>715202772
That faggot (who IS a faggot, they all are) is a limp wristed low IQ nigger who doesn't understand how to get by in this world. I had beautiful/sexy petite teachers carting these things for miles in school hallways when I was growing up, and we're talking women at maybe 100lbs under 5'5" carting big ass 50lb+ TVs without breaking a sweat.

He absolutely was being a retarded teletubby carrying the fucking thing for no reason. Any respectable man would have it sat on a tv stand and left there (why move it?) or would have bought something with wheels to move it (and allow their wife and kids to move it too) without being a fucking retard. Any respectable women would have done the same, or had a man get them a cart so they could move it.

ONLY ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARDS PICKED UP CRTS regularly. It did not happen. It was not the norm. If it was the norm, you were a nigger stealing the damn things, because everyone else paid for them and had a spot for them to stay in or knew how to properly make them mobile.

It was a NON-ISSUE.

>>715226839
And you could hook up like 20 different things to it at once. I never played games on one but my parents had one for many years and only recently got a newer TV.

>looks like shit
Skill issue.
>makes your eyes bleed
Only if you're an ADHD zoomer who is "hyper sensitive"

>>715216750
>Goodwill stopped selling them in-store for $20-$30 and ships them off to corporate instead
Fuck those greedy bastards

>>715205780
how long have you had your phone anon

>>715226667
I agree they were terrible but it was fun playing Guitar Hero on it when that first came out

>>715206319
1) you have no fucking idea how good phosphor technology was and is
2) you're obviously larping because the solution to your complaint is not sitting 5cm away from the screen. something absolutely no one does if they're actually comprehending the picture on the screen
you desperately-larping zoomers and aoomers have some serious fucking malfunction

>>715227291
Really?
I imagine the input lag would've been terrible
>>715226971
nothing a simple switcher wasn't better at doing

>>715227837
>I imagine the input lag would've been terrible
You adjust for it in the settings, it was still a rhythm game despite how unpolished it is looking back.

>>715227837
>I imagine the input lag would've been terrible
Why? They were just CRT projectors in a box.
The later ones were DLP projectors in a box, but DLP works similarly to a CRT in the way it draws an image on screen.

>>715201681
Imagine being such a weak faggot you struggle lifting <100 lbs

>>715228416
YWNBAW

>>715228349
Rear projectors have notorious input lag in comparison to CRT
Also CRT's are not just "projectors"

>>715228584
You're confusing digital projectors with analog projectors. CRT projectors do not have input lag, they are analog devices.

>>715202173
50 years in the future when we have literally perfect screen tech, they'll sit there telling you how amazing their piece of shit 4:3 TN panel LCD is. They'll call it sovl.

>>715228815
QDEL isn't out yet

>>715228660
DLP and Rear projectors absolutely do have input lag

but ~why~ do people no longer make TVs like this?

>>715228892
People want to watch Friends in 8K

>>715228889
No, this is what a rear CRT projector looks like. It is 3 CRTs with lenses on them that are in a box pointed in the same direction.
The reason they can project an image is because they do not have a shadow mask, so they can get significantly brighter than a single tube that does RGB.
There is no input lag on these, they are entirely analog devices.

>>715228892
Because big screens to watch Football (American or otherwise) is what consumers want. In the early 2000s, this shit
>>715226667
Was wildly popular, and they sucked ass too.
For smaller screens, like in offices, shitty little LCD screens make more sense too, as they are lighter and cheaper.
There's lots of reasons that flat panels make sense. They also suck.

>>715229140
>this is what a rear CRT projector looks like
That's not the same as the DLP and rear projectors anon
That one that you have there is a lot more expensive than them

how the fuck do you take a decent picture of these things

>>715205226
((small))) (((white))) (((penis)))

>>715229225
That is an image of a rear projector display that is also a CRT.
You are confused. DLP is just a type of projector. A rear projector is just a projector with a screen between you and the projector.
Most DLP projectors are normal projectors, and DLP is still used even today.

>>715229405
>Most DLP projectors are normal projectors, and DLP is still used even today.
Not for gaming

>>715229314
By not using composhite. Even back in the 90s no one WANTED to use composite.
You should use S-Video or Component for video. If you're a eurofag you should use SCART RGB. Nothing else.

>>715229467
what does this have to do with taking a better picture?

>>715229548
My bad anon, I read your post wrong.
If you're using a smartphone, try changing the exposure level on screen.
If you're using an iPhone and have live photos enabled, you can just choose a different frame from the livephoto to get a decent image. It'll be a bit lower resolution than the original though.
If you're on a real camera set the exposure to 1/30, that should usually be enough to get a photo that shows the entire image.

>>715229467

You're doing it wrong but whatever

>>715229808
we've had this exact same conversation before, by the way. i just thought that was funny. i'll try this out before i forget again.

>>715229467
I played using RF. I didn't even know the SNES supported composite until I bought a used N64 in the PS2 era and saw that the cable was the same.

>>715229908
I'm dyslexic and always under the influence while on /v/.

>>715230079
no point being sober when it comes to arguing with some retards here

>>715201530 (OP)
If you like playing lots of older console games, playing it on one of these is the intended experience. Lots of people mention that a lot of old games looked a lot better back when they played then back in the 90s and early 2000s, and this isn't purely nostalgia. The games were made with this sort of television in mind.

>>715229467
That's not what the issue is anon

>>715230134
Every fucking day

>>715229314
https://nyanpasu64.gitlab.io/blog/crt-photography/

>>715230217
Chat is this real?

>>715230473
The picture?
yes

>>715230217
right looks better

>>715229908
Fuck that. Real niggas play on RF switch.

They make my old ass anime with shitty DVD masters look like glorious 4K while only weighting <200mbs per episode. CRTs are goat, GOAT!

>>715231697

I watched all of Dragonball recently on my CRT. Just amazing. Anything animated looks incredible

>>715231697
Anime DVDs look really nice on a CRT. I don't watch much anime though.
Odd because normal movies look pretty bad.

>>715212338
Shit, son. You right.

T V
W I D E S C R E E N

>>715233194
Old games do look great in these things right?

>>715233857
Newer games look great as well. I played Shadow of War at 1280x1024 on my CRT when it came out and it looked great

>>715233930
Have yet to connect newer stuff to my crt, so consider me jelly and curious. I managed to build this in a 22x22' space right of my desk, fucking worth it man.

>>715201530 (OP)
>makes your eyes bleed
Maybe if you have faggy little baby eyes

>>715201530 (OP)
tv

>>715201530 (OP)
crt sucks

>>715237757
>>>/pol/

>>715216750
Anon...you have to understand that most zoomers are latching onto anything and everything since they have no cultural identiy

CRT nostalgia is just one of them, just scam them and move on, don't focus on it

I like it but no one that didn't grow up with crt will like it. All components combined don't make up for low resolution and 4:3 is weird to this that didn't grow up on it. Standards have changed and this will effect long term opinions regarding crt. Whenever someone shows an image or video of a crt touting deep blacks and no ghosting, the only thing the youth would notice is a blurry resolution, and washed out colors due to crt glow. Again, I like crt, but it's pure nostalgia for me. I don't think it looks objectively better than an OLED.

>Light gun games
>Old video games look just right on them
That's about it

>>715228892
I always wonder this too. There are specialists companies/craftsmen for so many things that are either niche or outdated for the small market of people that are interested in whatever it is, but there is not a single producer of CRTs

>>715201530 (OP)
crteez

>>715234128
i don't like photos where you can tell the wii's disc slot is larger in the middle and not uniform. looks like a mouth.

>>715202173
>reset the clock

>>715211779
this guy sounds like patrick bateman and it's taking me out of the video a bit

I use OLED.

>>715201530 (OP)
keep seeing people bragging about buying CRT TVs lately and they always have scratches all over them and they're the bottom of the barrel trash CRT that you'd find in hotels or wherever

>>715201530 (OP)
because while impractical they are literally the best thing you can play retro games on. Retard.

>>715226667
Hey, I had this exact TV.

>>715226667
terrible, terrible contrast ratio and they ALWAYS had convergence problems
RPTVs can stay dead

reply with your cope

>>715207161
what about both
both have their place

>>715201530 (OP)
Retarded neckbeards virgins playing 30 years old shit Nintendo

>>715210985
>14"
I don't understand going for micro CRTs

>>715230463
>CRT blog
>anime and 2hu shoehorned in to every pic
every single fucking time

>>715230217
this desu
I knew I wasn't imagining the backgrounds in FF7 looking good and was vindicated when I found my way back to CRTs

>>715201530 (OP)
Nah, retro games look really good on them.

>>715245761
>2 pictures
>every pic
Just fuck off if you hate it, reddit is down the block

>>715201530 (OP)
Opinion on plasma tv's?
They have the black level and motion clarity of CRT's, but can actually display modern shit.
Pic is my Panasonic 42 inch

>>715204569
You're right about low res games looking better on them, but you can largely get that effect with filters, though you'll probably have an autistic rage fit at me saying that
Also all your retarded shit about OLEDs is fucking stupid. Maybe shit ones, sure but the backlight reduction shit is bullshit, they're far far brighter than CRTs ever got if you want them to be and 12 months before replacing? Are you fucking retarded?

>>715201530 (OP)
>own a b&o mx8000
>extremely sharp image
>extremely bright image
>extremely good speakers
>makes all my 6th and earlier gen gaming more enjoyable
Do you people just hate nice things?

>>715204728
>it gets burn in
People keep saying this, but I've had an OLED TV for like 5 years now, and there are zero signs of burn-in. Maybe I just haven't been using it enough.

>>715246427
NTA, I think if you haven't used a CRT ever or in a long time, filters do a good job, and I mostly wouldn't say to go out of your way to get a CRT if you have easy access to one (though at this point I'm not sure I won't end up replacing mine when it dies).
But if you do have easy access to a CRT, I see no reason to use OLED over it for old shit.

>>715201530 (OP)
Boomers stuck in the past or zoomers who were born in le hecking wrong generation.

>>715245593
indie games going for the one on the right and calming they use a retro style will always be hilarious. The blocky mess on the right is ugly and it would have been perceived as ugly back in the day too if CRTs didn't produce the magic on the left.

>>715246546
>b&o mx8000
From a better age when high quality engineering was sold at consumer prices.

>>715201530 (OP)
HD games look like shit on non HD panels.
SD games look like shit on non SD panels. (On original hardware)
Literally what is the point of arguing about this

>>715229225
Read projection TVs are CRTs anon.

>>715204023
>component or scart cable
wow that was hard

The bulk and heft of CRTs made older NES and SNES games feel weighty and substantial. It's true. They felt like real solid things with tangible mass. Playing these games on modern flat screens and iphones makes them feel like cheap gimmicks

>>715226667
I have many fond memories of watching tv and playing 360 games on my friends projection tv. It was kind of shit, but it's nostalgic now.

>>715202772
money for nothing.

>>715207013
When I was a kid I chucked a metal rod at a CRT like a javelin at a dump once. I, and the rest of my friends, were shocked to find the metal rod not only sunk into the cavity, penetrating the vacuum housing, and released a crazy implosion sound. We all felt it. It was nuts. In retrospect, I feel somber when I think of my past actions.

>>715226650
RF is perfect for a NES, imo.

>>715206116
A 27 incher collapsed my TV stand and fell smack on my launch month PS2 while I was playing monster hunter as a kid. It bounced off the PlayStation like it was nothing and to this day the console works perfectly. God was with me that day

>>715253342
Amen, brother. He loves His little children.

Good luck playing the electricity bill for these in Trump's AI datacenter america.

What's the best way to get rid of a smaller box TV?

>>715222953
CRT beam simulation will always be shit, and is a completely brain dead way to even attempt to reach CRT motion quality. A completely different approach is needed, something which they could do right now but refuse to. All you need is to put a resistor across the hold capacitor, then the pixels will decay to black like a CRT. No fancy bullshit needed.

>>715201530 (OP)
>negligible input lag
>built-in antialiasing (don't need to offload that responsibility onto hardware)
>you can put things on top of it to decorate your living space

>>715202772
sensible chuckle but if you ever went to LAN parties or roadtrips, it wasn't unusual to lug one around. My family had a small one that we took to our grandmother's place so that we could play videogames when the adults got sick of pretending to want to entertain us.

>>715201530 (OP)
Dont forget the hiqh pitch whine and also the random crack sounds at night

>>715231697
that glow is soul tbf

>>715201530 (OP)
skill issue

>>715201530 (OP)
I have a HD CRT and an OLED tv
My OLED feels way worse for my eyes, it's fucking eye searing

Someone explain to me why when i watch a tv show and the camera pans, everything looks like shit until the camera is still again? I hate it. Is it just how it is or is it a display thing? I use 1ms monitors with up to 144hz but no matter what i set them to it looks shit during camera pans.

>>715260792
>Anon discovers camera motion blur
Enjoy your stay newfriend.

>>715260792
Response time
You might want to look up blur busters and BFI, CRT's never had this issue btw

>>715260792
>I use 1ms monitors with up to 144hz but no matter what i set them to it looks shit during camera pans.
Because TV content is limited by 24 frames per second. To take advantage of 144hz you need to feed content at 144fps (such as video games). Even then you'll still have some persistence motion blur. To match CRT you would need 1000hz sample and hold monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BJU2drrtCM