Fuck you, I'm not buying into the revisionism. The setting/idea was unique and interesting, the story was typical fun Kojimaschlock, but the gameplay was absolutely stupid, boring and tiresome. No, mailmen will never be cool. No, I don't enjoy "RPG Inventory Simulator" turned into a full game. This will work better as a movie. It should've been far more action-oriented to work as a game, but as it stands, it's a failure as a videogame; period.
>but dude you add ladders and give likes and other heckin people use the ladders and see the likes and it's like making you connected t-
Shut the fuck up you moronic cunt. It's a stupid game, no meta reasons are going to somehow make it enjoyable. For God's sake, this is a game with piss bombs. Piss bombs. No, it can't be "thoughtful". This was just an excuse for Kojima to cheap out on the stages and just have you running around generic "post-apoc" landscapes with little interest while preaching about high-school level nonsense.

The mood was great, with the songs and everything. The design was top tier. The story was dumb but very interesting. But damn was the game just bad.

The fact that Kevin Costner's The Postman is rightly reviled but videogame fans will dig in to defend Death Stranding pretty much shows why video games will never be taken seriously as an artistic medium.

I think it would have been better if it was stupider. It should have been like 3D QWOP with R2/L2 controlling each leg and R1/L1 each arm.

>>715242690 (OP)
>. It should've been far more action-oriented to work as a game
it is lol
you get to jump kick and body slam the mules in the dc and you can use all the old arsenal of guns, grenades, etc. or just hit them with your truck and watch them go flying. most people run away from even the pussy ass bts and don't even fight the big ones.

Yeah, what most people who don't play past the surface don't realize is that Death Stranding is as good of an action game as MGS5, it's just that it's got a surface sheen of purposeful clunk, which imo makes it more rewarding when you figure it out.

>>715242690 (OP)

I didn't mind the first one because I got it cheap and it's a calming atmospheric ride. Like yoga, meditation or popping bubble wraps.
And the game had a resonating pro-life message with a perfect ending, it didn't need a follow up.

>>715242690 (OP)
>No, mailmen will never be cool.
You didn't play the game. You think its a Mailman simulator but the game is actually Bob The Builder simulator. You start building infastructure to make deliveries more efficient and traveling faster and safer. You get Likes from other players for building your stuff and vice versa you keep giving Thumbs Up to that guy who put a bridge right where you needed it.

Spoiler at the very end of the first game you return to the tutorial area, except all your buildings are destroyed and you rely only on other peoples buildings. And you learn to appreciate them because its constantly raining and theres giant oil monsters everywhere.

Death Stranding is no joke one of the best VIDEO GAMES I have PLAYED the past 30 years.
It's addicting as fuck.

The fact that it filters zoomer ADHD schizos is just a new-found bonus!

>>715243218
Ironically the worst part of Death Stranding was the unskippable long cutscenes. Dude should turn lot of exposition cutscenes into audio logs you can listen while playing instead.

>>715243318
The cutscenes are what make it a Kojima game, anon.

>>715243318
No it's the boring as shit mails. I should be paid to read all that crap. With money not likes.

>>715243186
>it didn't need a follow up.
I agree in part, it stands alone extremely well. But I still would have liked a sequel, but not one with Sam and continuing his story. Set it 100 years later just to get away from the earlier character set. Like what they did when they brought back Star Trek.

>>715243318
>unskippable long cutscenes
?

>>715243645
Worst part is its also pointless because it explains the exact thing you've already shown once and put two and two together. Then afterwards at the very end the same fucking twist gets explained to you for the third time in 45 minute cutscene.

>>715243850
The beach credits are like 20 minutes.

>>715244142
I'm talking about the reveal at the very end. All the Mads scenes. Except we already knew everything that happened so 45 minutes of Mads on camera was completely pointless. I guess making them was a big effort so Hideo didn't want to cut them.

>>715244210
But those are skippable.

>>715242690 (OP)
Yeah it's shit, and the DLC sequel managed to be worse than this crap.

>>715244258
They're also completely pointless because you were forced to listen a bitch explain what happened in that scenes in the beach for 20 minutes.

fucking die hardman calling me every god damn time i stepped half in inch into an unbuildable zone by a prepper or warehouse. shut the fuck up man, i'm just trying to place a generator you dickhead, stop calling me.

>>715242690 (OP)
>the story was typical fun Kojimaschlock
All Kojima games have kino story tho

>>715244379
Dude has a lot of ideas but he needs an editor. He spends 15 minutes explaining something that could be explained in 2 minutes. And then in Death Stranding he explains the same thing to you multiple times.

>>715244379
maybe if the only media you've consumed is Marvel movies

>>715244490
MGS2 or 3 have better story than your favorite goyslop

>>715242690 (OP)
>No, mailmen will never be cool.
Fuck off, Courier Six is the shit.

>>715242690 (OP)
Pee Standing bros...

>>715244296
What Amelie talks about during the credits barely relates to the Cliff story.

>>715244658
It absolutely does relate because it talks about what happened to Norman when he was a baby.

>>715244774
Not at all. She mostly talks about her role as the extinction entity and only alludes to what she did at the very end of the Cliff cutscenes in like one sentence.

>>715242690 (OP)
Yeah, playing it right now, and my god the gameplay is dull. The high point of every mission is climbing a ladder or stopping Sam from tripping occasionally. Jesus. The BTs feel like a nuisance that make travel even more tedious than it already is. You'd think the environment would at least be interesting to look at in a literal walking simulator, but it's basically a featureless wasteland. You'd think the "settlements" would offer some kind of respite from the monotony, but everything is empty except for a hologram that gives you missions inside the same copy-paste station. It's all so goddamn mind numbing. All this games makes me want to do is play as another delivery man from a far better game.

>>715242690 (OP)
>No, mailmen will never be cool

>>715244980
Again, which makes the Cliff The Movie at the end completely pointless. Because at that point as a player you already had a hunch of what happened and the beach blabbering confirms it. So the third time where its just shown to you is completely pointless waste of time. You can cut that 45 minute cutscene from the game and nothing would change, it would only make the game better.

>>715245056
Can you stop moving goalposts?

>>715245138
Can you start paying attention to the discussion?
See >>715243850
Not my problem that you can't understand basic english.

>>715242690 (OP)
>death stranding
>WARNING! THIS IS A MAILMAN GAME
>buys it anyway
>"WTF WHY AM I DOING MAILMAN STUFF"
That's how dumb you sound

>>715244142
>>715244980
>>715244658
Shut up nigger, the ending was the worst part of the entire game because it slogs on for too fucking long.

Amelie had to explain herself 3 LONG fucking times. WORST parts were with Amelie.
Cliff had a kino resolution but Kojimbles ruined it by having it happen "again" instead of having them play together
The whole post-credits part with Die Hardman, Fraguul, and BB were great, but since they trail after the long winding cutscenes mentioned earlier they lose some of the impact they're supposed to have due to ending fatigue.

>>715245206
You are barely able to write English and if you think that "Bridget killed Cliff" is the point of the Cliff cutscene you might be retarded.

>>715242979
No the combat is much worse than mgs5

>>715245334
>>715245334
>and if you think that "Bridget killed Cliff" is the point of the Cliff cutscene
Cliff cutscene brought nothing new to the table. Everything in Cliff cutscene was already shown in short flashback scene from baby Normans point of view and Bridget yapping away at the ghost beach. Now its you who is moving goalposts, which suggests your hand might be some other color than white.

>>715244562
MGS has writing on par with a Call of Duty game.

>>715245465
Your ESL is also showing again.

>>715245438
It's not, in fact. It's exceedingly similar and maybe like 10% worse.

>>715245550

>>715246101
Changing weapons using the dpad and right analog is awful

>>715242690 (OP)
Am I alone in thinking that this concept (exploration, setting new routes, maping the area while constructing structures to make it better for other travelers is awsome idea but for a game that take place in uncharted, alien world like for example unexplored planet with alien ecosystem, biomes and species of inteligent but otherwordly spiecies?
Like I cant into kojima take on characters, its like presenting realistic world with characters for some action movie from 90s.
I pay 200dol for a game that would explore this concept in scifi, alien or fantasy world, death stranding is weird for the sake of being weird.

>>715242690 (OP)
>but the gameplay was absolutely stupid, boring and tiresome
no