Thread 715243350

i hope Final Fantasy never returns to turnbased. you turnfags deserve way less

Can I have some money

>DMC5 has sold 10 million times
our opinion actually does matter

based I liked 16.

>>715245530
Yeah, nice job selling only 2 million at launch and then making the rest from $5 steam sales by zoomer tiktokers! I'm sure you've got a sequel by now, right?

>>715243350 (OP)
OK we'll go with your plan.
>Final Fantasy cancelled

good job faggot

>>715247314
>a loud minority online told me FF is dead so it must be true

>>715243350 (OP)
I hope FF9 remake is turn based and flops. It would be a nice reality check to FFcucks.

>>715247314
Good riddance

>>715243350 (OP)
Only good non turn based FF was Jack's game

>>715243350 (OP)
Based

>>715247503
Final Fantasy XVI bombed so hard they removed the Denuvo protection because it was costing more than the game was making in sales.

>>715248053
ffxv was so good turniggers were on a suicide watch for more than 10 years and had to latch on some shit like Persona 5 oder the bear romance game

Final Fantasy 16 would have been a garbage game even with turn-based combat.

Tell me when Final Fantasy becomes a RPG again.

>>715248557
>it's not an RPG if it's not turnba-

>>715248657
Correct. RPGs can only be turned based when player skill is removed and character skill is expressed. Otherwise you're just playing an action game, not a RPG.

>>715243350 (OP)
same, it deserves to die after two decades of complete shit and trend chasing. they've completely tanked any hope or faith in them to make a good FF game again.

>>715245850
>making the rest from $5 steam sales by zoomer tiktokers!
And? Still sold its stock and made its money.

>>715248912
>RPGs can only be turned based when player skill is removed
Fuck outta here with that shit. Why take the game part out of the game? It's just a slightly more interactive visual novel at that point.

>>715243350 (OP)
Even if XVI were turn-based, that still wouldn’t have saved it, it’s fundamentally a shit game.

>>715249846
Board games are turn based and they are... games.

>>715243350 (OP)
>I want shit out of spite

>>715248657
I miss Tales of having a unique combat system.

>>715248657
Tales games have always been regarded as shit, anon.

>>715243350 (OP)
Honestly I'm fine with a more action-focused gameplay but the problem is they remove everything to accommodate the casuals
>no elements and thus, no elemental weaknesses
>no resources except timers
>only two kinds of attacks: multihit staggers and big damage punches so the combat loop is just use stagger button > boss staggers > use damage button

>>715243350 (OP)
The real question is how do they go back while adding new mechanics and not being accused of ripping off expedition 33?

>>715248657
The tales series died a long time ago

>>715243350 (OP)
FF16 was good, but it could have been so much fucking better. A pipedream would be if they get to try again, and focus up and cut a lot of the unnecessary baggage that made 16 a slog at times.

>>715243350 (OP)
FF16 is 90% cutscenes, time wasting dialogue, scripted shit and Filler garbage.
it's the opposite of "Action" and it's nothing like DMC.
FF16 has FUCKING COOL DOWN MOBILE SHIT and you only have the 1 combo string that you spam for the whole game.
It's shit.

>>715254950
thats FF in general. there's more cutscenes than gameplay. FFXIV has over 300+ hours worth of cutscenes. FF13 has 42gb worth of bluraymovies and 8gb worth of gameplay.

>>715247918
the turn based games are good INSPITE of being turn based. you slog through the shitty turnbased combat to get to the rest of the game.
For example I'm playing FF7 right now. the world and plot is charming as fuck. encountering new things, exploring, customising materia, collecting enemy skills is fun as fuck.
but the actual turn based combat is shit. there's no challenge, it's not fun.
you just spam Magic Mantra then Beta and that will get you through the first half of the game without even trying.

they really fucked up 7R it's cringe compilation fanfic shit and the game play is boring walking simulator padding slop.
they already had the perfect formula for ARPGs it was KH2 and that's what a real FF7 remake should play like. if I ever get around to making it.

>>715249995
It's a shit game, but the gay romance is the least of its problems, they would need to cut the cinematics by 75% and have more gameplay than walking, watching cinematic and have 30 seconds of combat for it to be better.

>>715255094
>thats FF in general. there's more cutscenes than gameplay.
Not in the good ones.
>inb4 uhh random battles don't count for some reason cause idk you watch a summon every once in a while.

>>715253903
They just have to suck it up, starting first with a public apology from Yoshi-P for talking all that trash about turnbased

>>715256138
the only games that didnt have long cutscenes are pre playstation era because of size limitations of cartridge and ram

>>715256657
FF7 is PS1. it has a short cutscenes and always gives you full control of the character before too long.
and that is FULL control no locking you in snails pace forced walking sim shit, no making you hold triangle for a full minute and then wait for a sluggish animation purposely designed to waste your time just so you can intact with a door or level or whatever.

>>715248912
go back to D&D you stupid retard. JRPG's always had a degree of interaction to them. if you want to juggle numbers you might as well play pen&paper with your friends and leave a medium alone that is first and foremost interactive (we press buttons in here in case you didn't realize)

>>715248441
>FFXV
>Good
Lmao do not pretend like you play actual action game, transister.