Thread 715247386

Will Witcher 4 be as successful as the third game in an era where being open world isn't a guaranteed success anymore? I feel like CDPR really needs to step up in their gameplay department else succumb to the competition

>>715247386 (OP)
It's nowhere near as hyped up as witcher 3 or cyberpunk 2077, but it'll still probably sell a shitton.

>>715247386 (OP)
Casualfaggot retards who want barebones shallow games are always around, sadly.
Look how fast they went back to presenting blatant tech demos that will be downgraded as "running on PS5" and people fell for it again.

fighting large monsters in Witcher 3 was pure jank. It's also a problem with the souls series.
How can we fix it?

>>715247386 (OP)
>Will Witcher 4 be as successful as the third game
of course it will
> in an era where being open world isn't a guaranteed success anymore?
open world being a success isn't a guarantee, but being from a gaming darling studio is. the market has also nearly doubled in size since TW3 came out - there are more normalfags in the system than ever to ride hype trains. it's why records get set in everything every year.

>>715247386 (OP)
Doubt it, I loved Witcher 3, but could not give 2 fucks about Witcher 4. I didn't like Ciri in the books or Witcher 3, and have no interest in playing a game about her. I really stopped caring after the end of Geralts story, the only thing that could have kept me interested would have been a story far in the past during the actual heyday of monsters and Witcher, when they were far more relevant than in the Witcher series.

>>715247386 (OP)
>as successful
doubt it, but it will probably sell well regardless.

geralt of riveting...

it will fail because it will be too much girlboss even for the normies

>>715252480
what coat is that?

>>715253396
Wolf Armor.

I have faith in CDPR. I played Phantom Liberty last summer, and I'm lowkey blown away by the level of CDPR's writing, it's genuinely so much better than like 95% of videogames. Writing quality was always their strength even going back to the Witcher 1. So yeah I'm exciting for their next game, I feel like they've learned all the right lessons from Cyberpunk

>>715247904
>It's nowhere near as hyped up as witcher 3
wat? Witcher 3 is what gave the series it's popularity

>>715253758
Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong board, the Indian image board is two websites down.

>>715253603
>I have faith in CDPR
Then you are a fucking clown and deserve to get server shit game at 80 dollars full price

>>715254241
I judge them off their past games, and I've loved or liked
>CP2077
>Thronebreaker
>Witcher 3
>Witcher 2
>Witcher 1

What else is there to judge a game studio on besides their past work

>>715253486
huh I remember it looking way more obnoxious
but I might just be thinking of Lambert.

>>715254332
Then since you like shit game I'm sure you'll love this shit game too

>>715247386 (OP)
>Will Witcher 4 be as successful as the third game
there are more gamers now. it will likely be more successful purely on that.

witcher 3 was great since it was casual friendly and if you wanted you could get to close to souls combat. cyberpunk was a pretty competent shooter, felt like a better Battlefield. but it tells me they have some talent that knows how things should feel. Lots of time passed and Souls combat has become common these days. id be fine with witcher 3 style combat, but i expect there to be a much heavier souls or sekiro influence. And if they get the feel right then they potentially appeal to a huge Elden Ring audience.

>>715254401
Getting upgraded wolf armor makes it more obnoxious, the chest in that pic is just the first tier of the armor.

I feel like it will be more successful, their overall popularity has only increased after the millions of spic zoomers they got with cyberpunk. Personally I could never play a game that forced you into a female MC. The forced ciri parts were the absolute worst thing about witcher 3, women are always insufferable.

>>715254542
>cyberpunk was a pretty competent shooter, felt like a better Battlefield
Lol

I still don't understand the appeal of going into the future of the Witcher series with Ciri instead of getting to create your own no-name witcher from a school of your choice doing fuck-all in the past, or getting to experience Vesemir's adventures when he was relatively young and before Geralt took the Trial of the Grasses. Ciri was the absolute worst direction to take the series once her story was concluded and she became Empress in W3.

>>715254862
>Ciri Empress ending

>>715254862
Creating your witcher before they all turned to shit was the obvious path after making CP. It really seems like a stupid decision. The entire game geralt and everyone around him is talking about how witchers are almost no longer needed and how it is a good thing.

circumcise all frogposters

>gave the controller to some faggot to pretend it's real gameplay
They didn't learn SHIT and Poles are a bunch of subhuman niggers that should die in a nuclear MAD war with Russia

>>715254862
>create your own no-name witcher
That 's clearly what they wanted to do with the failed MMO project lol

KCD2 sold really well for a game of it's kind despite the issues, being a direct sequel and not breaking into the mainstream
people are dying for a big budget RPG after ER specially after every other franchise shat the bed

>>715247386 (OP)
>Will Witcher 4 be as successful as the third game
I doubt it, being railroaded into to playing as ciri was the worst part of 3 because shes such a boring character now thats the entire game.

>>715254862
My theory is that they didn’t originally want to make The Witcher 4, but after the dev hell of CP 2077, they’re trying to play it safe. In CP 2077, they got a lot of criticism for offering a more limited range of choices. But with a set character they can get away with that so they’re playing it safe

Also like the anon, I don’t care about the woke stuff or female protag. The issue is that Ciri is just boring. She’s the nice and kind chosen girl, but there’s nothing interesting about her.

How detailed is the save file recreator in 3? I feel like my computer is too ass to play that game at an appreciable framerate so I would probably have to get it on console.

>>715257223
Or rather, how much do the choices from your W1 and W2 save file matter in 3?

>>715257013
Hi, Mr. Ideas Guy here.

The problem that every single writer in the video game industry has is that they genuinely do not understand the concept of replayability. The reason they go into video games is to create their magnum opus, but they're hack frauds who couldn't cut it in the actual literary world. Witcher 3's story is long and convoluted, but it's what video game writers masturbate to. For game developers, however, Witcher 3's story is a programming hell, especially when (by CDPR's own admission) only half of W3's players got through the main story in the first place because there's just too much.

The IDEAL RPG doesn't have a story that's 50 hours long. It has a story that's 10 hours long but with every decision having 5 different consequences that bleed out into other decisions, making each play through almost totally distinct from each other. Despite how genuinely ass 70% of its story is, Detroit: Become Human grasped the proper framework for telling a video game story AND SHOWING HOW THAT STORY HAPPENS. In spite of this, RPG developers refuse to look at D:BH's model because they want to write the next Return of the King despite being too incompetent to do so.

Unfortunately for us, video games will continue to embrace the "broad as an ocean, deep as a bird bath" narrative model because they refuse to hire me, Mr. Ideas Guy, even though I would save them literally thousands of man-hours and millions of dollars.

>>715257223
>>715257282
W3 lets you simulate a save after finishing the tutorial area. You don't need to import one since everything that you don't simulate is genuinely superficial and has no impact nor receives any comment from NPCs.

>>715247386 (OP)
It could depending on when it releases. If that month is a dry period then it could do well. It will already sell several million by default due to love for 3.

>>715248261
I liked Ciri when she was with Geralt. Her solo adventurers were lame and filled with drama.

>>715257612
well making stories in general is hard that's why something basic like TWD s1 feels better 99% of the video game stories
that's why some of the greatest movies are adapted from already hit novels

the issue is that 10 hour long rpg is going to cost as much as the 50 rpg and will garner less audience
>not paying 60 for a 10 hour game

also gamers are kind of retarded when they say choices should matter they want entire cutscenes, items and future world events etc
but in something like KCD and W3 choices mattered just meant saving some no name NPC or making them sad or happier
which should be more than enough if you are really immersed into the story

also yeah normies don't replay (most of them don't play past act 1) but they are still the majority of the consumers

>>715257013
>She’s the nice and kind chosen girl
I don't like Ciri, but calling her nice and kind with her past seems like a miss.

>>715257612
also they refuse to hire me Mr. men of the people
i would've told them straight "yeah let's cut out this scene of women screaming from out trailer and nobody wants to play as drag queen"
and would've saved them millions

Why did 2 and 3 turn Geralt into a very conventionally attractive guy if the novels and 1 said that he's a really strange-looking and ugly man as far as appearances go?

>>715254241
>Guys, notice how responsive the world is in this scripted walk through the city where we had full control over what is done and said every step of the way

>>715258831
In the novels he basically trips into women's pussys. He's never said to be ugly, just scary because he has scares, is pale and gaunt from a life on the road. The few moments where he cleans up like the Ball on Thanedd Isle women are fawning over him

>>715258831
Geralt considers himself ugly. He's the one who describes himself as horse-faced and carved up. There's no question that he's frightening because he has glow-in-the-dark cat eyes, white skin and hair, and scarred. He is, however, "unconventionally attractive", and due to being a witcher he has increased strength, stamina, and is sterile. He's perfect for women who want to have a one-night stand with no consequences.

Something else to remember is that Geralt has an incredibly poor self-image due to his caste in society and his mommy issues.

>>715260065
I mean, a man looking ugly and women finding them attractive is not a contradiction. But like you said, he's technically a pale, gaunt guy with weird yellow cat eyes, white hair, and scars all over. He's not meant to look like a movie star.

Also from what I understand a major part of the Witcher appeal in-universe is that they are completely sterile and cannot ever have STDs, so sex with them is completely risk-free

>Ciri is boring

Honestly I feel like they made her more boring and bland in Witcher 3 compared to her in the books.

I liked her chapters and Tower of Swallows is one of the better novels IMO. With the exception of the Rats gang chapters which suck, I couldn't wait for that to end. But her rivalry with Bonhart, jumping through dimensions, all her stuff in the land of the Aen Elle, her wending through the desert, her being taught magic by Yennifer (wholesome!), I dunno I enjoyed it.

>>715247386 (OP)
It'll probably be very buggy on release, be shit on, and then go quiet. Then the patches finally fix all the issues that should've been there day 1 and people praise it like it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

I wanted to replay TW3 but Complete Edition is now 85 GB. Why?

>>715260614
Someone made the stupid decision to give players the freedom to determine how Ciri would respond to certain questions and situations in W3. That's what makes her bland. In W1, Geralt is "bland" because he's an amnesiac and the player chooses how he acts and responds to the world around him, but he has that entire game to develop into someone during the final fight in Vizima and dealing with Jacques grilling him on the morality statements Geralt made to Alvin. After that, Geralt has the entirety of W2 to start crystalizing into a harmony of how the player envisioned him in W1 and his actual character in the novels as his memories start to return, which culminates in a fully realized character in W3.

Ciri doesn't have that opportunity because most of the non-Polish world didn't know anything about her by the time W3 released, she didn't have an entire game to convey who she is, she wasn't written to have a specific personality, and what we instead see is a grown woman acting like a pedantic child because the only way to get the "good" Ciri endings is to let her have her way whenever she starts complaining. At best, she's bland because we don't learn anything about her from herself, only from what others tell us. At worst, she's a girlboss who cries her way to victory and uses her god powers to kill everyone who tells her "no". The latter is the characterization the biggest Ciri-haters use because it validates their perspective of her being the biggest Mary Sue in the books (which she is, but that's because Sapkowski is a mediocre writer when he's not penning his fetishes to paper).

>>715247386 (OP)
>Will Witcher 4 be as successful as the third game
>They ditched RED Engine in favor of UE5
Of course not, lmao
With how everyone using Unreal is cutting corners left and right, it will run like shit and feel like shit
Just like Stalker 2 is still a mess
And just like >>715260650 said, they will release a broken product and slowly patch it into something somewhat playable, all while praising instead of spitting on them for having everyone alpha test it for them

>>715253758
that's exactly what he said

>>715253758
2 was already mainstream, it looked incredible when it released and it also became known as "that edgy polish RPG with all the tits and ass".

This game will be as shit as CP77, shame I liked TW1 and TW2. TW3 DLC were also cool unlike the main story.

>>715247386 (OP)
I can only remember how busted alchemy was.
I literally beat that Griffin to death with my fists.